Team3S: 3000GT & Stealth Thursday, July 12
2001 Volume 01 : Number
545
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Date:
Wed, 11 Jul 2001 14:51:33 EDT
From:
StevePKT77@aol.comSubject: Re: Team3S:
Center Diff - Racing question
Are you talking about completely
eliminating the function of the center diff? I hope you're only driving
around in slick weather. I have an '88 Subaru XT6 full-time 4wd which has
a center diff lock, and when the center diff is locked it drives around like a
tank (severe braking effect when turning) - not to mention any turns cause great
stress to the drivetrain, since your wheels will naturally want to move at
different speeds (but cannot since the center differential is locked up).
Again, this works fine in slick road conditions (ice, snow, gravel, dirt) but on
dry pavement it's not very fun for you or your car while turning.
-
-Steve
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 13:21:22
-0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Lucius <
stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Center Diff - Racing question
Arty,
I don't now anything
about welding or pinning our center diffs. But
the torque split is already
50/50 the best I can determine. My
reasoning can be found on my web page
below. Let me know what you
think. Remember the torque split only applies
when traction is equal
to *all* tires. If traction is less for one or more
tires then more
torque goes to the tire(s) with better traction (or at least
will try
to).
http://www.geocities.com/lutransys/jlucius/2-AWD3.htmJeff
Lucius,
www.stealth316.com-
----- Original Message -----
From: <
Aso8@aol.com>
To: <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>; <
stealth@starnet.net>
Cc: <
Aso8@aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 11,
2001 12:36 PM
Subject: Team3S: Center Diff - Racing question
I'm
trying to have my Center Diff Welded but it looks like the casing
weld won't
hold a real hard launch. Nor, does welding the spyder
gears look like a good
idea? Does anyone know how this is done or if
it has ever been done on a
VR-4?My objective is to have the torque
split 50/50 so only half the HP
reaches each set of wheels. Maybe the
drive train will hold? It will be a
shame to break on launch :(
Arty 91 VR-4
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 23:41:39
EDT
From:
DiABLoCarAudio@aol.comSubject:
Team3S: TEIN SETUP vs. STOCK STRUTS & INTRAX SPRINGS
Hi
everyone. I have a 92RT/TT with a bad suspension system. My struts
are
going, and my car still sits at the same height it came from the
factory
with.
I like the ECS, so if I stay with the stock struts, how
much are they with
our discount? Also, If I get those, I'll need some
lowering springs to help
the look of the car. I'm wondering, with the
springs and struts, how close
will the price be to the TEIN suspension
system? I'm thinking I may go with
that setup because it will be close
to the same price but much better
handling and performance. Any ideas
would be helpful.
- -Paul - 3Si1127
1992 Pearl White RT/NA - Sold...
=(
1992 Green RT/TT
K&N FIPK & Re-gapped
plugs(0.034")
Porterfield Cryo-Treated Rotors, R-4S Pads,
& SS lines
Greddy Profec Boost Controller @ .9
Bar
Custom 3" Exhaust
www.DiabloCarAudio.com***
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 22:12:18
-0700
From: "Ken Middaugh" <
kmiddaugh@ixpres.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: TEIN SETUP vs. STOCK STRUTS & INTRAX SPRINGS
A set of 4 ECS
struts should cost about $560 from one of the discount
dealers. A set
of Eibach springs should run about $240. So at about $800,
you are
about half-way to a set of Tein coil-overs which are about $1600
with the
pillow ball mounts...
> Hi everyone. I have a 92RT/TT with a bad
suspension system. My struts
are
> going, and my car still
sits at the same height it came from the factory
> with.
> I like
the ECS, so if I stay with the stock struts, how much are they with
> our
discount? Also, If I get those, I'll need some lowering springs
to
help
> the look of the car. I'm wondering, with the springs
and struts, how
close
> will the price be to the TEIN suspension
system? I'm thinking I may go
with
> that setup because it will
be close to the same price but much better
> handling and
performance. Any ideas would be helpful.
>
> -Paul -
3Si1127
> 1992 Pearl White RT/NA - Sold... =(
> 1992 Green
RT/TT
> K&N FIPK & Re-gapped
plugs(0.034")
> Porterfield Cryo-Treated Rotors,
R-4S Pads, & SS lines
> Greddy Profec Boost
Controller @ .9 Bar
> Custom 3" Exhaust
>
www.DiabloCarAudio.com***
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 11:46:31
-0000
From: "v t" <
vr4spyder@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Team3S: rear window on VR4 Spyder
The rear window on my 1995 VR4 Spyder
will only close after driving for
about 5 miles or so. Could this be
cause by a faulty alternator?
thanks
vambi
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 06:58:20
-0500
From: "Brad Bedell" <
bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: rear window on VR4 Spyder
Try faulty/poorly adjusted rear
hatch switches. The tonneau needs to be
fully closed and switches
closed prior to the 1/4 windows closing.
Next time you have this
problem. Get out, push down on both sides of the
tonneau (up front
where it latches)
Brad
Check out my home page:
http://home.austin.rr.com/overboost/E-Mail:
bbedell@austin.rr.com ICQ#
3612682
- -----Original Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@team3s.com
[mailto:owner-team3s@team3s.com]On Behalf Of v
t
Sent: Thursday, July 12,
2001 6:47 AM
To:
team3S@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
Team3S: rear window on VR4 Spyder
The rear window on my 1995 VR4 Spyder
will only close after driving for
about 5 miles or so. Could this be
cause by a faulty alternator?
thanks
vambi
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 08:05:36
-0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: TEIN SETUP vs. STOCK STRUTS & INTRAX SPRINGS
is there
some reason you don't want to go with the ground control suspension
and
eibach springs? I don't think the stock struts with ECS are
that
awfully expensive.
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
DiABLoCarAudio@aol.com
[SMTP:DiABLoCarAudio@aol.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2001 10:42
PM
> To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Subject: Team3S: TEIN SETUP vs. STOCK STRUTS & INTRAX SPRINGS
>
> Hi everyone. I have a 92RT/TT with a bad suspension system.
My struts
> are
> going, and my car still sits at the same
height it came from the factory
> with.
> I like the ECS, so if I
stay with the stock struts, how much are they with
>
> our
discount? Also, If I get those, I'll need some lowering springs to
>
help
> the look of the car. I'm wondering, with the springs and
struts, how
> close
> will the price be to the TEIN suspension
system? I'm thinking I may go
> with
> that setup because it
will be close to the same price but much better
> handling and
performance. Any ideas would be helpful.
>
> -Paul -
3Si1127
> 1992 Pearl White RT/NA - Sold... =(
> 1992 Green
RT/TT
> K&N FIPK & Re-gapped
plugs(0.034")
> Porterfield Cryo-Treated Rotors,
R-4S Pads, & SS lines
> Greddy Profec Boost
Controller @ .9 Bar
> Custom 3" Exhaust
>
www.DiabloCarAudio.com***
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:32:29
-0500
From: "Morice, Francis" <
francis.morice@retek.com>
Subject:
Team3S: EGT gauges and setup
Does anyone out there know where I can find
a good step by step procedure
for:
1. Hooking up the EGT wires ?
2.
How to attach them and where exactly to attach them (96 RT/TT)
I am
contemplating a turbo upgrade this winter and definitely want to
install the
EGT gauges. Also where I can I find a good set of gauges ? I
currently
use an Autometer Boost gauge, but haven't seen any EGT gauges on
their
site. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Francis
'96 R/T
TT
(SAVC-R BC, Spearco WI, Magnacore wires, NGK plugs .32, test pipe,
Autometer
Boost Gauge, RPS TCC, HKS MegaFlow intake, freeflow precats,
Goodridge Steel
Braided Brake Lines, Porterfield Cryo/Crossdrilled Rotors,
R4S pads, 1G DSM
BOV, Ground Control springs(500/300 F/R), Supra Fuel
Pump)
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 11:31:01
-0500
From: "Berrios, Victor L" <
VLBerrios@rroads.med.navy.mil>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: EGT gauges and setup
I got an Autometer one from
cartparts.com. You also need to get the probe to
the exhaust.
I'll look
at my part no. today and let you know tonigh.
Victor
'96 Pearl White,
VR4
'93 3K GT Black (sold)
- -----Original Message-----
From:
Morice, Francis [mailto:francis.morice@retek.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 12,
2001 11:32 AM
To: Team3S (E-mail)
Subject: Team3S: EGT gauges and
setup
Does anyone out there know where I can find a good step by step
procedure
for:
1. Hooking up the EGT wires ?
2. How to attach them
and where exactly to attach them (96 RT/TT)
I am contemplating a
turbo upgrade this winter and definitely want to
install the EGT
gauges. Also where I can I find a good set of gauges ? I
currently use
an Autometer Boost gauge, but haven't seen any EGT gauges on
their
site. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Francis
'96 R/T
TT
(SAVC-R BC, Spearco WI, Magnacore wires, NGK plugs .32, test pipe,
Autometer
Boost Gauge, RPS TCC, HKS MegaFlow intake, freeflow precats,
Goodridge Steel
Braided Brake Lines, Porterfield Cryo/Crossdrilled Rotors,
R4S pads, 1G DSM
BOV, Ground Control springs(500/300 F/R), Supra Fuel
Pump)
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:43:11
-0500
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <
mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: EGT gauges and setup
> Does anyone out there know where I
can find a good step by
> step procedure for:
> 1. Hooking up the
EGT wires ?
The wires will go to the sensor that should come with the EGT
gauge. Wires
for lights in the gauge and such hook up the same as they
do for boost
gauges and such.
> 2. How to attach them and where
exactly to attach them (96 RT/TT)
You need to drill and tap holes in the
exhaust manifolds before the turbo
and insert the sensor(s) there and then
connect the supplied wires between
the gauge and the probe(s).
> I
am contemplating a turbo upgrade this winter and definitely
> want to
install the EGT gauges. Also where I can I find a
> good set of
gauges ? I currently use an Autometer Boost
> gauge, but haven't seen any
EGT gauges on their site. Any
> help will be greatly
appreciated.
I decided to use the SPA Technique digital Boost/EGT
gauge. Its spendy
though, at $330.
http://www.pptracing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=15Westach
makes an inexpensive one:
http://www.westach.com/images/showcase/2C2S-EGT.jpgVDO
also makes a good one for $160:
http://www.extrememotorsports.com/gscat/egtgauge.htm-
-Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 09:29:33
-0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Forwarded post..this bounced.
I was tormented by this decision
for a few months when I was going to
replace the suspension on my base model
(no ECS). I decided on the Tein and
while I was waiting on the 2nd set
to arrive from Japan (UPS broke the 1st
set), I found this pretty "VR-4"
thing and had to buy it. Since it has ECS
and my budget got a giant
dent in it from the VR-4, I decided to Kancel
the order on the Tein
setup. If/when I replace the suspension on my VR-4,
I'll get the Tein
HA kit.
Here's the way I looked at it:
Ground Control +
Stock Struts/Shocks:
$700 Stock Struts & Shocks
$399 GC perches &
springs
$299 Front Camber plates
$299 (Can you even put the Camber plates
on the rear?)
$1697 Total
With this, you still don't have camber
adjustments from above in the rear
AND if you lower the car or use
higher-rate springs, it will EAT your stock
struts (heard this from several
people). Also, having ridden in a VR-4 with
ECS and H&R springs,
the stock shocks just weren't designed to operate well
with the car lowered -
they have incredibly little travel. And, as my
friend says, the
Tour/Sport button becomes the Sport/UltraSport button.
Long trips on
imperfect roads in that car would require frequent rest stops
and perhaps a
visit to the chiropractor. Also, I'd wonder if there were
any
fitment/noise issues with this setup, but I think GC generally makes
pretty
good stuff. Finally, AFAIK, the GC camber plates require
drilling new holes
in the strut towers and not using the stock
holes.
Tein(approx. prices):
$1400 HA kit
$230 Front
Pillow-ball mounts
$230 Rear Pillow-ball mounts
$1860
Total
This has it all - front and rear height/damping/alignment
adjustment. The
kit was designed together, so I'd hope that the shocks
were designed to
handle the spring rates and suspension travel. Every
vendor SWORE to me
that these are bolt-in replacements requiring absolutely
no modifications to
the stock mounting locations (I like that feature).
The only 2 things
keeping me from this kit at the moment are that I like to
be able to adjust
the ECS damping rates from the driver's seat (and that the
car also adjusts
them according to conditions) and the cost (as my stock
suspension is
nowhere near in need of replacement at 33k
miles).
HTH,
- --Erik
-
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Erik
Gross
DuPont, WA
'95 Black 3000GT VR-4 (6MT, AWD, 4WS,
ECS) 33,000
mi
FIPK, HKS TT Exhaust, PRofecA @0.7/0.9, HKS SSBOV,
HKS TTimer, GReddy Boost Gauge, Syntec 5W50,
BG SynchroShift(TX, TC), Mobil1 (R Diff),
'94 Algae-Blue "fun to slide around
corners" Corolla 76,000mi
http://pws.ihpc.net/erikgross/home.html***
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 11:39:11
-0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Forwarded post..this bounced.
My son and I have been using
the GC/Eibach setup WITHOUT camber plates for 3
years on two cars. We
are NOT eating stock struts, nor are we wearing out
tires. We drive on
the street lowered about 1/4 inch and another 1/2 inch
lower on the
track.
I am in the middle of transplanting these from my '93 to my
'94.
Chuck Willis
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
Geoff Mohler [SMTP:gemohler@www.speedtoys.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 12,
2001 11:30 AM
> To:
team3s@team3s.com> Subject: Team3S:
Forwarded post..this bounced.
>
> I was tormented by this decision
for a few months when I was going to
> replace the suspension on my base
model (no ECS). I decided on the Tein
> and
> while I was
waiting on the 2nd set to arrive from Japan (UPS broke the 1st
> set), I
found this pretty "VR-4" thing and had to buy it. Since it has
>
ECS
> and my budget got a giant dent in it from the VR-4, I decided to
Kancel
> the order on the Tein setup. If/when I replace the
suspension on my VR-4,
> I'll get the Tein HA kit.
>
>
Here's the way I looked at it:
>
> Ground Control + Stock
Struts/Shocks:
> $700 Stock Struts & Shocks
> $399 GC perches
& springs
> $299 Front Camber plates
> $299 (Can you even put
the Camber plates on the rear?)
>
> $1697 Total
>
>
With this, you still don't have camber adjustments from above in the
rear
> AND if you lower the car or use higher-rate springs, it will EAT
your
> stock
> struts (heard this from several people). Also,
having ridden in a VR-4
> with
> ECS and H&R springs, the stock
shocks just weren't designed to operate
> well
> with the car
lowered - they have incredibly little travel. And, as my
> friend
says, the Tour/Sport button becomes the Sport/UltraSport button.
> Long
trips on imperfect roads in that car would require frequent rest
>
stops
> and perhaps a visit to the chiropractor. Also, I'd wonder if
there were
> any
> fitment/noise issues with this setup, but I think
GC generally makes
> pretty
> good stuff. Finally, AFAIK, the
GC camber plates require drilling new
> holes
> in the strut towers
and not using the stock holes.
>
>
> Tein(approx.
prices):
> $1400 HA kit
> $230 Front Pillow-ball mounts
> $230
Rear Pillow-ball mounts
>
> $1860 Total
>
> This has
it all - front and rear height/damping/alignment adjustment. The
>
kit was designed together, so I'd hope that the shocks were designed to
>
handle the spring rates and suspension travel. Every vendor SWORE to
me
> that these are bolt-in replacements requiring absolutely no
modifications
> to
> the stock mounting locations (I like that
feature). The only 2 things
> keeping me from this kit at the moment
are that I like to be able to
> adjust
> the ECS damping rates from
the driver's seat (and that the car also
> adjusts
> them according
to conditions) and the cost (as my stock suspension is
> nowhere near in
need of replacement at 33k miles).
>
> HTH,
> --Erik
>
>
------
----------
> Erik
Gross
DuPont, WA
> '95 Black 3000GT VR-4 (6MT, AWD, 4WS,
ECS) 33,000
mi
> FIPK, HKS TT Exhaust, PRofecA @0.7/0.9, HKS SSBOV,
> HKS TTimer, GReddy Boost Gauge, Syntec 5W50,
> BG SynchroShift(TX, TC), Mobil1 (R Diff),
> '94
Algae-Blue "fun to slide around corners" Corolla 76,000mi
>
http://pws.ihpc.net/erikgross/home.html***
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 10:06:12
-0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
Team3S: * NorCal Dragstrip Day
The 87T is gonna visit the Sacramento
Dragstip this Saturday with its new
4.30:1 LSD (was a 3.7x:1 unit) for some
"testing".
Mostly..to give the new owner a time to shoot for on his own
later. :^)
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 12:36:38
-0400
From: Jon Apostoles <
jon@ncfpc.com>
Subject: Team3S: Weird
electrical problems
I have a 91' 3000GT Twin Turbo, and there are some
really strange electrical
problems:
- The radio seemed to turn
on and off randomly, spending more time off than
on... lately it doesnt come
on at all.
- - The power mirror control does not respond.
- - The
windshield wipers when on interval stop in the middle of the windshield
straight up... the same thing happens when I turn them off.. they want to
stop in the middle.. they go down, and then pop back up and stop.
Any ideas of what I could do to fix any of these?
--
Jon
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 18:03:34
EDT
From:
DiABLoCarAudio@aol.comSubject: Re:
Team3S: TEIN SETUP vs. STOCK STRUTS & INTRAX SPRINGS
> A set of 4
ECS struts should cost about $560 from one of the discount
>
dealers. A set of Eibach springs should run about $240. So at about
$800,
> you are about half-way to a set of Tein coil-overs which are
about $1600
> with the pillow ball mounts...
Hmmm.. I was
under the impression the stock struts would run me closer to a
grand.
Thanks, maybe I'll just stick with the stock setup for now.
-
-Paul - 3Si1127
1992 Pearl White RT/NA - Sold... =(
1992 Green
RT/TT
K&N FIPK & Re-gapped
plugs(0.034")
Porterfield Cryo-Treated Rotors, R-4S Pads,
& SS lines
Greddy Profec Boost Controller @ .9
Bar
Custom 3" Exhaust
www.DiabloCarAudio.com***
Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
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