Team3S
Monday, June 18
2001
Volume 01 : Number
523
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Date:
Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:27:46 -0400
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <
DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Big Red Install
There is no on-line install because I have
not written on yet. I apologize.
I was supposed to do this for the next
kit Brad sent out (to you Steve).
Please email me privately.
When I
get the install notes complete I will have them posted on the Team3S
list or
Bob Forrest will notify everyone since he'll put it there for me.
Email
me at the address below (not the "reply to" email please) and see my
website
below for other things not written up yet (SS brake lines I think is
the only
thing there right now).
- --Flash!
dschilberg@pobox.comhttp://www.speedtoys.com/~dschilberg
<
http://www.speedtoys.com/~dschilberg>
3Si #577
1995 Black VR-4 w/ Big Reds, Autopower rollbar, Sparco Evo
race seat,
Simpson 5-point harnesses, Pirelli P-Zeros, Goodridge SS lines,
Magnecor
KV85 wires, and a custom spark plug plate
http://www.team3s.com/FAQrollbar.htm-
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Lasher
[mailto:s_lasher@bellsouth.net]
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 5:11 PM
To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
Team3S: Big Red Install
Well, I finally got myself around to getting
Brad's Big Red kit. Does
anyone know if there is an on-line install
procedure? The install seems
straight forward enough, but I just want
to make sure I put the right
bolts in the right place. Is there
anything I need to look out for
(i.e. I know I need to cut off my dust
shields), should I drain all the
old fluid out of the system first,
etc. Thanks,
Steve
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:54:18
-0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Registration for Thunderhill
The only way to pursue this
hobby is to be single, or have a supporting
spouse. The level of
support from your spouse is directly related to how
much fun you'll
have. My wife helps me pack, unpack, and set up the car,
takes lap
times, and will even drive the car to cool down the brakes, but
she refuses
to drive or ride on the track, even for parade laps. She offers
to help
with service on the cars, but I know that she doesn't enjoy this,
and usually
refuse her help on that stuff. We are in a select group of
damned lucky
dudes!
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Koch
[SMTP:eK2mfg@foxinternet.com]
> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2001 8:56
AM
> To:
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Registration for Thunderhill
>
>
>
Since the major topic lately has been Thunderhill the buzz in my house
has
>
> been racing. A friend staying with us has an S2000 (nice
car) and he is
> off
> to the hill for an S2000 rally on Aug 1st.
My wife asked if we could
> something like this with my car......Oh my
god I will explode......now
> gentlemen life IS good after marriage and
father's day is a mer 24 hours
> to
> the future. I will be picking
up my FIPK from K&N today for installation
> tomorrow and Tire rack
will most likely get a hit on their secure web site
>
> from me.
This whole ABS problem was blessing in disguise. I will not be
> joining
this time but rest assured I ....we will be very active in road
>
racing.
>
> 93' R/T mods on the way.
> (w/supporting
wife)
> bob k.
>
> p.s. keep it safe, and don't let "fast and
furious" cause you to race on
> the street. I have been on several "Ride
alongs" and I have many very anal
>
> tickets for very frivolous
things.
>
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 07:30:26
-0700
From: Robert Koch <
eK2mfg@foxinternet.com>
Subject:
Team3S: FIPK
Can anyone tell me where I can find a FIPK for my 93'
stealth?
I have looked through the archives and can't seem to find
anything.
I found one at autozone.com but I was hoping to get one less than
185.00
Bob
93' R/T (no-mods)
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 07:55:30
-0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Registration for Thunderhill
Bring her along..Id bet Nissa
could get her in a car.
On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Willis, Charles E.
wrote:
> The only way to pursue this hobby is to be single, or have a
supporting
> spouse. The level of support from your spouse is
directly related to how
> much fun you'll have. My wife helps me
pack, unpack, and set up the car,
> takes lap times, and will even drive
the car to cool down the brakes, but
> she refuses to drive or ride on the
track, even for parade laps. She offers
> to help with service on
the cars, but I know that she doesn't enjoy this,
> and usually refuse her
help on that stuff. We are in a select group of
> damned lucky
dudes!
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
Robert Koch [SMTP:eK2mfg@foxinternet.com]
> > Sent: Saturday, June
16, 2001 8:56 AM
> > To:
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st> >
Subject: RE: Team3S: Registration for Thunderhill
> >
> >
> > Since the major topic lately has been Thunderhill the buzz in my
house has
> >
> > been racing. A friend staying with us has
an S2000 (nice car) and he is
> > off
> > to the hill for an
S2000 rally on Aug 1st. My wife asked if we could
> > something like
this with my car......Oh my god I will explode......now
> > gentlemen
life IS good after marriage and father's day is a mer 24 hours
> > to
> > the future. I will be picking up my FIPK from K&N today for
installation
> > tomorrow and Tire rack will most likely get a hit on
their secure web site
> >
> > from me. This whole ABS problem
was blessing in disguise. I will not be
> > joining this time but rest
assured I ....we will be very active in road
> > racing.
> >
> > 93' R/T mods on the way.
> > (w/supporting wife)
>
> bob k.
> >
> > p.s. keep it safe, and don't let "fast
and furious" cause you to race on
> > the street. I have been on
several "Ride alongs" and I have many very anal
> >
> >
tickets for very frivolous things.
- ---
Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@speedtoys.com>
California, USA
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:01:14
-0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Got Brakes??
For all you Thunderhill participants, your window to
order spare brake
pads closes this coming Friday.
I can save you each
$8 per -order- by having them shipped to my house
instead of paying thier
drop-ship fee to your house, and I'll have em at
the track Saturday morning
if that works for you.
Rotors shouldnt be a problem to get quick if you
are on that edge..but
Cryo would have to be ordered today for any good chance
of showing up on
time..in case you were wondering.
Bob has his new
pads..hes ready. This weekend we do his SS lines and tear
off his dust
shields.
- ---
Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@speedtoys.com>
California, USA
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:05:29
-0700 (PDT)
From: "Rabourn, Kent W." <
kwrabou@nppd.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:51:31 -0500
For Sale: 1992 Dodge Stealth, DOHC,
Twin Turbo complete long block with 52k
miles. Make offer by contacting Kent
Rabourn @ 402-564-3341.
Kent
Kent W. Rabourn
Retail Sales Manager
kwrabou@nppd.com Office: (402)
563-5909
MW: 6-368-5909
Cellular:(402)
910-0633
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:12:33
-0500
From: "Greg S." <
wizards@mhtc.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
FIPK
I checked a couple of my sources as well and thus far haven't been
able to
find one below the 185 you quoted. You might check out E-bay
.... usually
someone is selling new ones on there for around 150 closing
bid. There is
one on there right now that is at only 65 dollars ... but
I'm sure it'll go
up as it gets closer to the end of the auction. Good
luck.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=592516288&r=0&t=0Greg
Robert
Koch wrote:
> Can anyone tell me where I can find a FIPK for my 93'
stealth?
> I have looked through the archives and can't seem to find
anything.
> I found one at autozone.com but I was hoping to get one less
than 185.00
>
> Bob
> 93' R/T (no-mods)
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:05:22
-0500
From: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Got Brakes??
>
>Bob has his new pads..hes
ready. This weekend we do his SS lines and tear
>off his dust
shields.
>
This is the second time in a few days I've heard about
people cutting or
tearing off dust shields. Mine unbolted and came off
easily, all in one
piece.
Rich/94 VR4
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:29:19
-0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: FIPK
Are you in the SF Bay area?
> Robert Koch
wrote:
>
> > Can anyone tell me where I can find a FIPK for my
93' stealth?
> > I have looked through the archives and can't seem to
find anything.
> > I found one at autozone.com but I was hoping to get
one less than 185.00
> >
> > Bob
> > 93' R/T
(no-mods)
- ---
Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@speedtoys.com>
California, USA
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:29:45
-0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Got Brakes??
Well..I havent inspected them at all..so "tear"
is only a mildly
functional phrase..
On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Merritt
wrote:
> >
> >Bob has his new pads..hes ready. This
weekend we do his SS lines and tear
> >off his dust shields.
>
>
> This is the second time in a few days I've heard about people
cutting or
> tearing off dust shields. Mine unbolted and came off
easily, all in one
> piece.
>
> Rich/94 VR4
-
---
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gemohler@speedtoys.com>
California, USA
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 09:54:27
-0700
From: "Jim Berry" <
fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Got Brakes??
I had to cut mine off or remove the calipers --- I split the
shield at the thinnest area
with a metal shears. I could straighten and
replace them if I cared
enough.
Jim
Berry
============================================
- ----- Original
Message -----
From: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
To:
Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>;
<>
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Got
Brakes??
> >
> >Bob has his new pads..hes ready.
This weekend we do his SS lines and tear
> >off his dust
shields.
> >
> This is the second time in a few days I've heard
about people cutting or
> tearing off dust shields. Mine unbolted
and came off easily, all in one
> piece.
>
> Rich/94
VR4
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:19:44
-0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Got Brakes??
sure, Rich, they'll unbolt, but if you just trim
the top edge, you still get
some benefit of sheilding dirt. I suppose
it also sheilds air flow, which
is bad. I haven't removed mine (yet).
maybe I will when I figure out how to
do ducting.
> -----Original
Message-----
> From: Merritt [SMTP:merritt@cedar-rapids.net]
> Sent:
Monday, June 18, 2001 11:05 AM
> To: Geoff Mohler;
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Got Brakes??
>
> >
> >Bob has his
new pads..hes ready. This weekend we do his SS lines and
>
tear
> >off his dust shields.
> >
> This is the second
time in a few days I've heard about people cutting or
> tearing off dust
shields. Mine unbolted and came off easily, all in one
> piece.
>
> Rich/94 VR4
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:22:14
-0700
From: "Gross, Erik" <
erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Amazing Deal on 15", 16", and 17" tires
Tire rack seems to be
liquidating their supply of Firehawk SZ50 tires!
Those are last year's model
(they came out with SZ50EP tires this year), but
they're still awesome
Z-rated tires that were the top-of-the-line for
several years. I had
245/50/16s on my 3000GT for 2 years and loved them,
just ordered another
set. If you need tires or are will be needing tires
anytime soon,
this is an AWESOME deal, especially for the 225/55/16 size.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Firestone&model=Firehawk+SZ50Price(ea):
Size:
$65 225/60/15 (Base Stealth?)
$66 225/55/16 (base 3000GT, '91-'96SL,
Stealth ES?, R/T?)
$85 245/50/16 (base 3000GT, '91-'96SL, Stealth ES?,
R/T?)
$97 245/45/17 ('97+ SL, '91-'94 VR-4, '91-'94 Stealth TT)
$125
255/45/17 ('97+ SL, '91-'94 VR-4, '91-'94 Stealth TT)
-
--Erik
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:27:51
-0400
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <
DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Got Brakes??
If/When you remove the dust shield you will have
to relocate the ABS sensor
which bolts to the dust shield. A twisty tie
takes care of this if you
wanna wire it to the suspension but nobody told me
that so we were stumped
at first on the dust shield step. I'll remove
mine eventually but am
keeping it on until the testing is done when we get
four VR-4s at the same
track at the same time. Then we'll know if it
helps.
And a Dremel also works well since it is only attached at the top
and bottom
of the brake area and is not a circle but about 250-degrees of a
shield.
- --Flash!
dschilberg@pobox.com1995 Black
VR-4 w/ Big Reds and OEM dust shield
- -----Original
Message-----
From: Willis, Charles E.
[mailto:cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org]
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 1:20
PM
To:
team3s@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
RE: Team3S: Got Brakes??
sure, Rich, they'll unbolt, but if you just trim
the top edge, you still get
some benefit of sheilding dirt. I suppose
it also sheilds air flow, which
is bad. I haven't removed mine (yet).
maybe I will when I figure out how to
do ducting.
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 10:37:35
-0700
From: "Browne, Troy E" <
troy.e.browne@intel.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Got Brakes??
The front shields unbolt easily enough, it's the
rears you would need to cut
off (spotwelded).
Just got done doing
mine.
Troy
'96 Spyder VR-4
too much crap to list
Well..I
havent inspected them at all..so "tear" is only a mildly
functional
phrase..
On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Merritt wrote:
> >
>
>Bob has his new pads..hes ready. This weekend we do his SS lines
and
tear
> >off his dust shields.
> >
> This is the
second time in a few days I've heard about people cutting or
> tearing off
dust shields. Mine unbolted and came off easily, all in one
> piece.
>
> Rich/94 VR4
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 14:06:20
-0400
From: "Donnelly, Michael" <
DonnellM@ctc.com>
Subject: Team3S:
really, really, stupid question
Ok, this is a really stupid one, but
... I have a '94 R/T TT in pretty much
stock trim, I want to know if my
wheels (which are the stock style) are
chrome or just chrome platted
aluminum? They look chrome, but the manual
states on page 22-2 for DOHC
<Turbo> Wheel type - Aluminum type. I have
also seen the same
thing on a number of FAQ pages. I wasn't certain so I
just went out and
stuck a magnet to it, and it stuck (chrome right?). God,
I feel stupid
asking this ... but; if they are chrome then I'm going to buy
some new wheels
along with the new skins I need (probably Yoko's AVS dB).
Are the chrome
wheels on option that isn't spelled out in the manual? And
how much
weight is it going to save?
BTW, my
fog light problem (old thread) is probably caused by poor
wheel
balance. I get shaking around 80 mph. That and the fact the
one tire has a
slow leak has prompted me to get some new tires and an
alignment (and
possible new wheels?).
Michael Donnelly
'94 R/T TT
62,000 miles
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:59:47
-0400
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <
DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Got Brakes??
But the rear brakes do hardly anything and NEVER
get overheated so these are
pointless to remove. Someone correct me if
I am wrong.
- --Flash!
- -----Original Message-----
From:
Browne, Troy E [mailto:troy.e.browne@intel.com]
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001
1:38 PM
To:
team3s@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
RE: Team3S: Got Brakes??
The front shields unbolt easily enough, it's
the rears you would need to cut
off (spotwelded).
Just got done doing
mine.
Troy
'96 Spyder VR-4
too much crap to list
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:34:07
-0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Got Brakes??
Thats how I did it on the RX7, took all of 5
minutes including wheel R&R.
On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Jim Berry
wrote:
> I had to cut mine off or remove the calipers --- I split the
shield at the thinnest area
> with a metal shears. I could straighten and
replace them if I cared enough.
>
> Jim Berry
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---
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gemohler@speedtoys.com>
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:35:16
-0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Got Brakes??
If Pro Rally cars dont need the shield..we dont
either.
*grin*
On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Willis, Charles E.
wrote:
> sure, Rich, they'll unbolt, but if you just trim the top
edge, you still get
> some benefit of sheilding dirt. I suppose it
also sheilds air flow, which
> is bad. I haven't removed mine (yet).
maybe I will when I figure out how to
> do ducting.
- ---
Geoff
Mohler <
gemohler@speedtoys.com>
California, USA
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:40:33
-0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Got Brakes??
If yer a trail braker, they'll get
hot.
On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Schilberg, Darren wrote:
> But the
rear brakes do hardly anything and NEVER get overheated so these are
>
pointless to remove. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
>
>
--Flash!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Browne, Troy
E [mailto:troy.e.browne@intel.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 1:38
PM
> To:
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Got Brakes??
>
>
> The front shields
unbolt easily enough, it's the rears you would need to cut
> off
(spotwelded).
> Just got done doing mine.
>
> Troy
>
'96 Spyder VR-4
> too much crap to list
Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@speedtoys.com>
California, USA
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 14:33:53
-0400
From: "Volthause" <
volt@vozuluzov.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Got Brakes??
huh? trail braking has nothing to do with
overuse of the rear brakes, and
everything to do with braking well past your
turn-in point.
- -Scott Holthausen
'94 VR4
> If yer a
trail braker, they'll get hot.
>
> On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Schilberg,
Darren wrote:
>
> > But the rear brakes do hardly anything and
NEVER get overheated so these
are
> > pointless to remove.
Someone correct me if I am wrong.
> >
> >
--Flash!
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:39:31
-0600
From: Dave Monarchi <
monarchd@refuge.Colorado.EDU>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: really, really, stupid question
+> Ok, this is a really
stupid one, but ... I have a '94 R/T TT in pretty much
+> stock
trim, I want to know if my wheels (which are the stock style) are
+>
chrome or just chrome platted aluminum? They look chrome, but the
manual
+> states on page 22-2 for DOHC <Turbo> Wheel type - Aluminum
type. I have
as far as I'm aware, every stock wheel on any version
of 3000gt or
Stealth are all alloy wheels (not pure aluminum). some
are chrome
plated. that's why you'll see mention of people having to
"re-chrome"
their wheels, because the plating flakes off due to heat and
contaminants like salt, brake dust, etc.. some people polish
the
non-chrome wheels to look shiny like chrome. my first 91 VR4 had
this
done. this entails stripping off any paint and or clear coat, and
polishing the surface with varying degrees of abrasive material.
(major job - very time consuming)
+> also seen the same thing on a
number of FAQ pages. I wasn't certain so I
+> just went out and
stuck a magnet to it, and it stuck (chrome right?). God,
+> I feel
stupid asking this ... but; if they are chrome then I'm going to buy
+>
some new wheels along with the new skins I need (probably Yoko's AVS
dB).
+> Are the chrome wheels on option that isn't spelled out in the
manual? And
yes. see the mention for 94-96 in the
FAQ.
+> how much weight is it going to
save?
chrome plating adds a bit of
weight but I'm not really sure how much.
maybe a couple pounds per
wheel? anyone actually verified this?
hope that
helps.
Dave
=======================
= 95 Black 3000GT VR4 =
= 87
Mica Red GTI G60 =
http://ucsu.colorado.edu/~monarchd/cars.html
= There is no spoon.. =
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:47:57
-0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Amazing Deal on 15", 16", and 17" tires
I have Firehawks on
one of my VR4's and they were good tires. I had
245R45Z17's. Damn
shame - I just bought 4 Yoko dB's, at least they are a
little wider
(255R40Z17).
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gross, Erik
[SMTP:erik.gross@intel.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 12:22 PM
>
To: Team3S List (E-mail); Starnet 3Si Mailing List (E-mail)
> Subject:
Team3S: Amazing Deal on 15", 16", and 17" tires
>
> Tire rack seems
to be liquidating their supply of Firehawk SZ50 tires!
> Those are last
year's model (they came out with SZ50EP tires this year),
> but
>
they're still awesome Z-rated tires that were the top-of-the-line for
>
several years. I had 245/50/16s on my 3000GT for 2 years and loved
them,
> just ordered another set. If you need tires or are
will be needing tires
> anytime soon, this is an AWESOME deal, especially
for the 225/55/16 size.
>
>
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Firestone&model=Firehawk+SZ50>
> Price(ea): Size:
> $65 225/60/15 (Base Stealth?)
> $66
225/55/16 (base 3000GT, '91-'96SL, Stealth ES?, R/T?)
> $85 245/50/16
(base 3000GT, '91-'96SL, Stealth ES?, R/T?)
> $97 245/45/17 ('97+ SL,
'91-'94 VR-4, '91-'94 Stealth TT)
> $125 255/45/17 ('97+ SL, '91-'94 VR-4,
'91-'94 Stealth TT)
>
> --Erik
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:48:29
-0700
From: "Andrew D. Woll" <
awoll1@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: really, really, stupid question
Chrome wheels were an option on
the 93 Stealth. The concept of chrome is an
interesting one. I do not know it
would be possible to build anything out of
the element chromium. When
something appears to be chrome it is really
highly polished metal of some
type (usually steel or nickel) but the actual
chrome is put on by dipping the
item in liquid chrome. It them gets a clear
coat of something and we perceive
the item as Chrome plated. That is exactly
what it is - plated. I don't see
how this could save weight. If anything it
would add weight. Any metal's
people out there with further insight?
Andy
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 11:46:22
-0700
From: "Bart Kurek" <
bart_kurek@eli.net>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Amazing Deal on 15", 16", and 17" tires
if you have the stock 17"
rims and you are using the stock 245/45-17 can i
fot the
255/40-17's?
- -Bart Kurek
Sales Engineer
Electric Lightwave
Inc. (ELIX)
http://www.eli.netmailto:bart_kurek@eli.net-
----- Original Message -----
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
To:
"Team3S List (E-mail)" <
team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Monday, June 18, 2001 11:47 AM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Amazing Deal on 15", 16",
and 17" tires
> I have Firehawks on one of my VR4's and they were
good tires. I had
> 245R45Z17's. Damn shame - I just bought 4
Yoko dB's, at least they are a
> little wider (255R40Z17).
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gross, Erik
[SMTP:erik.gross@intel.com]
> > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 12:22
PM
> > To: Team3S List (E-mail); Starnet 3Si Mailing List
(E-mail)
> > Subject: Team3S: Amazing Deal on 15", 16", and 17"
tires
> >
> > Tire rack seems to be liquidating their supply
of Firehawk SZ50 tires!
> > Those are last year's model (they came out
with SZ50EP tires this year),
> > but
> > they're still
awesome Z-rated tires that were the top-of-the-line for
> > several
years. I had 245/50/16s on my 3000GT for 2 years and
loved
them,
> > just ordered another set. If you need
tires or are will be needing
tires
> > anytime soon, this is an
AWESOME deal, especially for the 225/55/16
size.
> >
>
>
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Firestone&model=Firehawk+SZ50>
>
> > Price(ea): Size:
> > $65 225/60/15 (Base
Stealth?)
> > $66 225/55/16 (base 3000GT, '91-'96SL, Stealth ES?,
R/T?)
> > $85 245/50/16 (base 3000GT, '91-'96SL, Stealth ES?,
R/T?)
> > $97 245/45/17 ('97+ SL, '91-'94 VR-4, '91-'94 Stealth
TT)
> > $125 255/45/17 ('97+ SL, '91-'94 VR-4, '91-'94 Stealth
TT)
> >
> > --Erik
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:01:39
-0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Got Brakes??
Huh?
Trail braking uses MORE brake than
not trail braking..and you will run
hotther brakes.
What part of "the
longer yer on the pedal the hotter it gets" am I
missing.
On Mon, 18
Jun 2001, Volthause wrote:
> huh? trail braking has nothing to
do with overuse of the rear brakes, and
> everything to do with braking
well past your turn-in point.
>
> -Scott Holthausen
> '94
VR4
>
>
> > If yer a trail braker, they'll get
hot.
> >
> > On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Schilberg, Darren
wrote:
> >
> > > But the rear brakes do hardly anything and
NEVER get overheated so these
> are
> > > pointless to
remove. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
> > >
> >
> --Flash!
- ---
Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@speedtoys.com>
California, USA
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:54:02
-0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: really, really, stupid question
electroplating and coating
are two different processes.
for plating, the part to be plated is hooked to
one pole of a battery and
stuck in a solution of the metal ions to be
plated.
coating is more like painting or dipping in paint.
>
-----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew D. Woll
[SMTP:awoll1@pacbell.net]
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 1:48 PM
>
To: Donnelly, Michael;
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Subject: Re: Team3S: really, really, stupid question
>
> Chrome
wheels were an option on the 93 Stealth. The concept of chrome is
>
an
> interesting one. I do not know it would be possible to build anything
out
> of
> the element chromium. When something appears to be chrome
it is really
> highly polished metal of some type (usually steel or
nickel) but the
> actual
> chrome is put on by dipping the item in
liquid chrome. It them gets a
> clear
> coat of something and we
perceive the item as Chrome plated. That is
> exactly
> what it is -
plated. I don't see how this could save weight. If anything
> it
>
would add weight. Any metal's people out there with further insight?
>
> Andy
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:56:51
-0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Amazing Deal on 15", 16", and 17" tires
Yes, stock 17x8.5
rims. This is the same cheat we are now using on our
track tires to get
a little more contact patch (AO47R on Volk TE-37's).
> -----Original
Message-----
> From: Bart Kurek [SMTP:bart_kurek@eli.net]
> Sent:
Monday, June 18, 2001 1:46 PM
> To: Team3S List (E-mail)
> Subject:
Re: Team3S: Amazing Deal on 15", 16", and 17" tires
>
> if you have
the stock 17" rims and you are using the stock 245/45-17 can i
> fot the
255/40-17's?
>
>
> -Bart Kurek
> Sales
Engineer
> Electric Lightwave Inc. (ELIX)
>
http://www.eli.net>
mailto:bart_kurek@eli.net>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
>
To: "Team3S List (E-mail)" <
team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 11:47 AM
> Subject: RE: Team3S: Amazing Deal
on 15", 16", and 17" tires
>
>
> > I have Firehawks on
one of my VR4's and they were good tires. I had
> >
245R45Z17's. Damn shame - I just bought 4 Yoko dB's, at least they
are
> a
> > little wider (255R40Z17).
> >
> >
> -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Gross, Erik
[SMTP:erik.gross@intel.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 12:22
PM
> > > To: Team3S List (E-mail); Starnet 3Si Mailing List
(E-mail)
> > > Subject: Team3S: Amazing Deal on 15", 16", and 17"
tires
> > >
> > > Tire rack seems to be liquidating
their supply of Firehawk SZ50 tires!
> > > Those are last year's
model (they came out with SZ50EP tires this
> year),
> > >
but
> > > they're still awesome Z-rated tires that were the
top-of-the-line for
> > > several years. I had 245/50/16s on
my 3000GT for 2 years and loved
> them,
> > > just ordered
another set. If you need tires or are will be needing
>
tires
> > > anytime soon, this is an AWESOME deal, especially for
the 225/55/16
> size.
> > >
> > >
>
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Sizes.jsp?make=Firestone&model=Firehawk+SZ50>
> >
> > > Price(ea): Size:
> > > $65 225/60/15
(Base Stealth?)
> > > $66 225/55/16 (base 3000GT, '91-'96SL, Stealth
ES?, R/T?)
> > > $85 245/50/16 (base 3000GT, '91-'96SL, Stealth ES?,
R/T?)
> > > $97 245/45/17 ('97+ SL, '91-'94 VR-4, '91-'94 Stealth
TT)
> > > $125 255/45/17 ('97+ SL, '91-'94 VR-4, '91-'94 Stealth
TT)
> > >
> > > --Erik
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 14:20:21
-0400
From: "Kevin Schappell" <
kevin@schappell.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: really, really, stupid question
Chrome wheels are generally
aluminum wheels (can be steel) with a chrome
layer on top. It's
actually a nickle base with a chrome top layer. It does
not add a ton
of weight as the thickness is only a few thousandths thick.
Polished
aluminum wheels are just the aluminum wheel polished to a high
luster.
They generally require up keep in the form of light polishing every
few
months unless they are clear coated. The clear coat is easily
chipped
so a lot of places do not recommend it. I am exploring
polishing my 91 TT
wheels right now and plan on just polishing them and
living with having to
touch them up every few months. You can also use
a clear powdercoat but I
am not sure if that is crystal clear or
not.
Kevin Schappell
V.P. of Engineering/Marketing
Trega
Corporation
625 Valley Rd.
Hamburg, PA
19526
1-800-356-3254
610-562-5558 (VOICE)
610-562-5990 (FAX)
http://www.tregacorp.comhttp://kevin.schappell.com>
-----Original Message-----
> From:
owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Dave Monarchi
> Sent:
Monday, June 18, 2001 2:40 PM
> To: Donnelly, Michael;
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Subject: Re: Team3S: really, really, stupid
question
>
>
>
> +> Ok, this is a really stupid one,
but ... I have a '94 R/T TT
> in pretty much
> +> stock
trim, I want to know if my wheels (which are the stock style) are
> +>
chrome or just chrome platted aluminum? They look chrome, but
> the
manual
> +> states on page 22-2 for DOHC <Turbo> Wheel type -
Aluminum
> type. I have
>
> as far as I'm aware, every
stock wheel on any version of 3000gt or
> Stealth are all alloy wheels
(not pure aluminum). some are chrome
> plated. that's why
you'll see mention of people having to "re-chrome"
> their wheels, because
the plating flakes off due to heat and
> contaminants like salt, brake
dust, etc.. some people polish the
> non-chrome wheels to look shiny
like chrome. my first 91 VR4 had this
> done. this entails
stripping off any paint and or clear coat, and
> polishing the surface
with varying degrees of abrasive material.
> (major job - very time
consuming)
>
> +> also seen the same thing on a number of FAQ
pages. I wasn't
> certain so I
> +> just went out and stuck
a magnet to it, and it stuck (chrome
> right?). God,
> +> I
feel stupid asking this ... but; if they are chrome then I'm
> going to
buy
> +> some new wheels along with the new skins I need
(probably
> Yoko's AVS dB).
> +> Are the chrome wheels on option
that isn't spelled out in the
> manual? And
>
>
yes. see the mention for 94-96 in the FAQ.
>
> +> how much
weight is it going to save?
>
> chrome plating adds a bit of weight
but I'm not really sure how much.
> maybe a couple pounds per wheel?
anyone actually verified this?
>
> hope that helps.
>
>
Dave
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:00:25
-0400
From: "Volthause" <
volt@vozuluzov.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Got Brakes??
The rear brakes won't become any hotter than they
normally would under the
given circumstance of "trail braking" is all I
was saying.
Or alternatively, trail braking doesn't use any more rear
brake than normal
braking, which leaves the rear brakes rather
unused.
- -Scott Holthausen
'94 VR4
- ----- Original Message
-----
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
To:
Volthause <
volt@vozuluzov.com>
Cc: 3000GT <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Monday, June 18, 2001 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Got
Brakes??
> Huh?
>
> Trail braking uses MORE brake than
not trail braking..and you will run
> hotther brakes.
>
> What
part of "the longer yer on the pedal the hotter it gets" am I
>
missing.
>
> On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Volthause wrote:
>
>
> huh? trail braking has nothing to do with overuse of the rear
brakes,
and
> > everything to do with braking well past your turn-in
point.
> >
> > -Scott Holthausen
> > '94 VR4
>
>
> >
> > > If yer a trail braker, they'll get
hot.
> > >
> > > On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Schilberg, Darren
wrote:
> > >
> > > > But the rear brakes do hardly
anything and NEVER get overheated so
these
> > are
> > >
> pointless to remove. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
> >
> >
> > > > --Flash!
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:34:55
-0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Got Brakes??
The act OF trailbraking will generate more heat
in the brakes..is what Im
saying. As opposed to not doing so at
all.
(am I repeating myself)
On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Volthause
wrote:
> The rear brakes won't become any hotter than they normally
would under the
> given circumstance of "trail braking" is all I was
saying.
>
> Or alternatively, trail braking doesn't use any more
rear brake than normal
> braking, which leaves the rear brakes rather
unused.
>
> -Scott Holthausen
> '94 VR4
- ---
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Mohler <
gemohler@speedtoys.com>
California, USA
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:24:41
-0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <
bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Tires that fit 17" wheels (Was: Amazing Deal...)
- ----- Original Message
-----
From: "Bart Kurek" <
bart_kurek@eli.net>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Amazing Deal on 15", 16", and 17" tires
> If you have the
stock 17" rims and you are using the stock 245/45-17 can I
fit the
255/40-17's?
- ------------------------------------
You can
calculate for yourself (or look at the chart) what tires *will* and
*will
not* fit by looking on the Team3S website. It's in the FAQ pages,
in
the "Wheels & Tires" section, strangely enough... Look for the
article on
"Plus-Sizing".
www.Team3S.com/FAQ.htm . The
245/45's have a total diameter
of 25.68", while the 255/40's are
25.03". Since the 255/40's are a 5/8"
*smaller* diameter, they will fit
easily, but they will definitely change
your speedometer & odometer
readings. By 2.5%, to be
exact...
Best,
Forrest
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:39:38
-0400
From: "Volthause" <
volt@vozuluzov.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Got Brakes??
Let's review...
Flash wrote:
But the rear
brakes do hardly anything and NEVER get overheated so these are
pointless to
remove. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
- --------
Geoff
responded:
If yer a trail braker, they'll get hot.
-
--------
And now I'm saying that maybe I read that wrong, but it implies
that trail
braking uses up more of your rear brakes in relation to the front
brakes
than threshold braking, or straight line braking, or whatever kind
of
braking you do besides trail braking, and that is an INCORRECT
statement.
Yes, your OVERALL brake temps, front AND rear, may be hotter
due to trail
braking, (although that statement is arguable since in theory,
while trail
braking you can't use anywhere near the amount of braking force
you can
while braking in a straight line) but that to me seems like a
no brainer
and didn't really need a clarification.
- -Scott
Holthausen
'94 VR4
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:54:57
-0400
From: Michael Salter <
magicare@home.com>
Subject: Team3S: CD
for '92 VR4
I would like to install a CD in my '92 VR4.
Would prefer a
6 or 10 CD changer but a single in dash may be enough.
I would prefer to
retain the steering wheel radio controls.
Any recommendations?
-
--
Regards,
Mike Salter
http://www.precisionsportscar.com/***
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:05:17
-0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: CD for '92 VR4
None. You -will- lose the wheel
controls.
On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Michael Salter wrote:
> I would
like to install a CD in my '92 VR4.
> Would prefer a 6 or 10 CD changer
but a single in dash may be enough.
> I would prefer to retain the
steering wheel radio controls.
> Any recommendations?
>
>
--
> Regards,
>
> Mike Salter
>
http://www.precisionsportscar.com/-
---
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gemohler@speedtoys.com>
California, USA
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:51:27
-0400
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <
DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Got Brakes??
Scott -- Let's not get our underflooring in a
bunch here ... trail braking
was discussed to the tune of 41 emails over the
course of 1 day by 9
different people on another list so we don't need to get
into it on this
list again as the digest people would kill us. I was
just saying that the
rear brakes do so little of the percentage of braking
that removing the dust
shields in the rear would not help all that
much. That time would be better
spent putting cooling ducts to the
front brakes or something like that.
Just wait until after the August
Porsche DE at Topeka's Heartland Park when
four of us do some testing and
tuning and put to rest all that is brake
related.
- --Flash!
1995
VR-4 with Big Reds, dust shields, and no brake cooling at all
(yet)
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Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:53:31
-0400
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <
DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: CD for '92 VR4
I do not believe steering wheel controls work
with aftermarket radio
installations. Unless perhaps you use the same
as the head unit (Infinity
in my case) and they have wires to make use of
these.
Usually the steering wheel controls are rendered useless but that
is okay
since the new radio sometimes comes with a remote control.
In
any case, Crutchfield has some good charts to show what works where (our
cars
are not listed in the catalog though). My brother-in-law works
for
Pioneer so I push that although I have seen some great stereos at
Gatherings
from other manufacturers.
- --Flash!
1995 VR-4
-
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Salter
[mailto:magicare@home.com]
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 3:55 PM
Cc: Team3S
List (E-mail)
Subject: Team3S: CD for '92 VR4
I would like to install
a CD in my '92 VR4.
Would prefer a 6 or 10 CD changer but a single in dash
may be enough.
I would prefer to retain the steering wheel radio
controls.
Any recommendations?
- --
Regards,
Mike
Salter
http://www.precisionsportscar.com/***
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