Team3S             Saturday, June 16 2001             Volume 01 : Number 521




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Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:41:55 -0700
From: Jim Elferdink <macintosh@sunra.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: PNW Area Driving Events  WAS: Racing at ThunderHill...

I drove in a Shelby Club sponsored event at PIR on June 1. I had a fantastic
time--even though it was raining most of the day! In the rain it's *really*
nice to have a VR-4 instead of a Cobra! They're doing another on July 10.

More info at their site:
http://www.saacnw.org/homepage.htm

PIR is a nice track, but nowhere near as interesting or challenging as
Thunderhill. I can't wait for the 30th!

For lots of info on opentracking check out http://www.opentracking.com/ and
consider joining their e-mail list.

Opentrack events can be found at almost all race tracks--they've got to keep
that track rented to pay the bills!

Jim
94 VR-4

>> Is there anything like this in the northwest?
>> Say Seattle International Raceway or at least Portland?

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Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 13:06:17 -0700
From: "Andrew D. Woll" <awoll1@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: a/c mildew odor

Unfortunately, this can be a nasty problem. The smell is probably the result
of mold in the part of the AC system that is inside your car, under the
dashboard, that looks like a small radiator. (I think it is called the
condensor, but I can't remember for sure.) The problem can be temporarily
defeated by spraying LYSOL spray into the air intake while the AC is
running. This may, or may not, fix the problem. If it fixes it - great. If
not, then you need to actually clean the condensor and getting to it is a
major headache. I have not had the Stealth dash disassembled so I can't tell
you how much of a headache. Maybe someone else on the list can shed some
light on this for you.

Andy

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Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 14:48:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Registration for Thunderhill

No..they dont do anything.  Typically they dont -care- about numbers at
the open track days, but be prepared.  Bring tape/shoe polish..whatever.
They will NOT have numbers to hand out.

Windows also have to be rolled down for this..so you can use that space
either.

On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Willis, Charles E. wrote:

> Some cars have numbers permanently painted on, some have been assigned by
> the club and owner has bought magnetic/vinyl numbers, so they try to
> identify the car by the numbers.  If you don't have them , the club should
> assign them.  Worst case, they will write them on your windows with white
> shoe polish.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Geoff Mohler [SMTP:gemohler@www.speedtoys.com]
> > Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 1:08 PM
> > To: Andrew D. Woll
> > Cc: team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
> > Subject: Re: Team3S: Registration for Thunderhill
> >
> > Pick some numbers..gotta have em on your car.
> >
> > I have no idea if memberhsip in the BMW clubs means they have a deal with
> > NASA..Id say they dont..but I dunno.
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Andrew D. Woll wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Guys:  I was going through the process of registering for the hpde
> > class
> > > 1 on july 1 when I came accross two things I don't know what to do with.
> > > First, the form wants to know "car numbers" and gives three boxes to
> > fill
> > > out. WHAT GOES IN THESE BOXES?
> > >
> > > Secondly, I am a member of the BMW Car Club, which supposedly means I do
> > not
> > > have to pay a seperate NASA fee, but it looks like there is no way to
> > avoid
> > > it. Any ideas on what I should do would be most appreciated. Thanks
> > >
> > > Andy

- ---
Geoff Mohler <gemohler@speedtoys.com
California, USA
http://www.speedtoys.com/~gemohler/LagunaSeca/mrs-photo.jpg
http://www.speedtoys.com/~gemohler/LagunaSeca/mrs-photo2.jpg


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Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:47:43 -0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Registration for Thunderhill

every track and club is different - at heartland park one PCA club wrote the
numbers with shoe polish in the little rear pane of glass each side, same
track different club had vinyl numbers that they stuck on the same little
panes of glass, becuase the numebrs were white and we had white cars. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geoff Mohler [SMTP:gemohler@www.speedtoys.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 15, 2001 4:48 PM
> To: Willis, Charles E.
> Cc: Andrew D. Woll; team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
> Subject: RE: Team3S: Registration for Thunderhill
>
> No..they dont do anything.  Typically they dont -care- about numbers at
> the open track days, but be prepared.  Bring tape/shoe polish..whatever.
> They will NOT have numbers to hand out.
>
> Windows also have to be rolled down for this..so you can use that space
> either.
>
> On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Willis, Charles E. wrote:
>
> > Some cars have numbers permanently painted on, some have been assigned
> by
> > the club and owner has bought magnetic/vinyl numbers, so they try to
> > identify the car by the numbers.  If you don't have them , the club
> should
> > assign them.  Worst case, they will write them on your windows with
> white
> > shoe polish.
> >

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Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:20:12 -0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Registration for Thunderhill

NASA requires a three digit number on each side of the car ---- the numbers
must be a min. of 8" and in a contrasting color to the car. The number allows
them to whack your pee-pee if you do a bad thing on the other side of the
track. The last event I went to had a manditory drivers meeting after each
session --- if you did a dumb dumb they have your number.

        Jim Berry
==================================================
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Willis, Charles E. <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>

> every track and club is different - at heartland park one PCA club wrote the
> numbers with shoe polish in the little rear pane of glass each side, same
> track different club had vinyl numbers that they stuck on the same little

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Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2001 00:03:07 -0400
From: "Mihai Raicu" <aa2345@wayne.edu>
Subject: Team3S: Need datalogger help in San Jose Area

Hello San Jose, CA people,

I'm writing this e-mail on behalf of my brother that is temporarily
relocated in CA.  He is looking at buying a 95? Eclipse Turbo and would like
to study the car in as much detail as possible before commiting to buying
it.  He has a G-teck pro with him, he can drive it and visually inspect it.

*****Does anyone in the SAN JOSE area have a Datalogger?   Is it possible
anyone could help him tomorrow/this weekend with plugging the datalogger in
this car to see if there is anything wrong internally?  He has a laptop, if
that means anything to anyone?  He would also drive to your house/place of
choice to save you the trouble.

If anyone wants to help, my brother, JOHN, can be reached on his cellular
anytime at 734-657-3343.  He is a bit constrained by time because we started
the shipping process of his 94 TT from Michigan to California.  However, his
car is awaiting a transport truck.  As long as his car hasn't left the
shipping yard, they will refund his $775 - $20 storage fees.

Thank you for any help.

- -MIKE-
95 Red VR4
Soon to be sold, but it's still up for grabs.

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Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 00:41:59 -0400
From: Mark W <pagan@siscom.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Need datalogger help in San Jose Area

At 12:03 AM 6/30/2001 -0400, Mihai Raicu wrote:
>Hello San Jose, CA people,
>
>I'm writing this e-mail on behalf of my brother that is temporarily
>relocated in CA.  He is looking at buying a 95? Eclipse Turbo and would like
>to study the car in as much detail as possible before commiting to buying
>it.  He has a G-teck pro with him, he can drive it and visually inspect it.

Just keep in mind that is a 2nd gen Eclipse and the TMO logger won't work...

Mark
'93 R/T TT

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Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 00:57:12 -0500
From: "john adams" <johnqadamsiii@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S: Refurbished ECU's

What everyone's opinion on these third parties that
repair and and rebuild ecu's? I am on my second one
ready to send it back for another again, or possibly
a refund. Vineet was nice to recommend 'foreign ecu
repair' and they were indeed helpful and well priced, but Im
beginning to wonder how thoroughly these units are given
a check-through on.

The day after I threw in this second ecu - and tell me if this
sounds like a likely culprit and not just something else- I
started having some really peculiar shifting (moving forward at
any rpm wouldnt shift from first, or by contrast would not shift from 3rd
at any rpm, manually or in D), and also possibly that the car was running
more poorly (retarded timing?). I decided it could be the torque request
signal line between the ecu and the tcu to control the shifting of the
transmission. Just in case, I did another filter-fluid change on it. Needless
to say I am off the road again and rather frustrated...any advice?

thanks,
john

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Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 23:53:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Registration for Thunderhill

If youre talking about the one we were at..

Numbers were pretty much optional..cept for the race run groups.

I DID like the mandatory meeting tho..puts everything quickly in focus
when its warm on the brain.

On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Jim Berry wrote:

> NASA requires a three digit number on each side of the car ---- the numbers
> must be a min. of 8" and in a contrasting color to the car. The number allows
> them to whack your pee-pee if you do a bad thing on the other side of the
> track. The last event I went to had a manditory drivers meeting after each
> session --- if you did a dumb dumb they have your number.
>
>         Jim Berry
> ==================================================
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Willis, Charles E. <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
>
> > every track and club is different - at heartland park one PCA club wrote the
> > numbers with shoe polish in the little rear pane of glass each side, same
> > track different club had vinyl numbers that they stuck on the same little

- ---
Geoff Mohler <gemohler@speedtoys.com
California, USA
http://www.speedtoys.com/~gemohler/LagunaSeca/mrs-photo.jpg
http://www.speedtoys.com/~gemohler/LagunaSeca/mrs-photo2.jpg


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Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 02:46:40 -0400
From: "Mike Knapp" <burnmacs@home.com>
Subject: Team3S: FS: 1996 VR-4

I have a 1996 3000GT VR-4 for sale that I thought I had sold until
someone(s) just backed out on me. And before that I broke my hand and
couldn't keep up. That leaves me still looking for a buyer. The car is
red/tan and it has 78K miles on it. The car is 100% stock and has never been
raced and always babied. I have kept in perfect condition as long as I've
had it (since 38K miles) and now I have to part with it. The car is
mechanically 100% up to speck and I have had all service done up to date.
The car does not burn a drop of oil between oil changes which are done every
3K miles with Mobil 1. The car really does sell itself. Pics are available
at http://www.members.home.com/mitsu-3000gt. If you have any questions
please email me.

Thanks,
Mike

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Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 06:55:37 -0700
From: Robert Koch <eK2mfg@foxinternet.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Registration for Thunderhill

Since the major topic lately has been Thunderhill the buzz in my house has
been racing. A friend staying with us has an S2000 (nice car) and he is off
to the hill for an S2000 rally on Aug 1st. My wife asked if we could
something like this with my car......Oh my god I will explode......now
gentlemen life IS good after marriage and father's day is a mer 24 hours to
the future. I will be picking up my FIPK from K&N today for installation
tomorrow and Tire rack will most likely get a hit on their secure web site
from me. This whole ABS problem was blessing in disguise. I will not be
joining this time but rest assured I ....we will be very active in road
racing.

93' R/T mods on the way.
(w/supporting wife)
bob k.

p.s. keep it safe, and don't let "fast and furious" cause you to race on
the street. I have been on several "Ride alongs" and I have many very anal
tickets for very frivolous things.

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Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:44:49 -0400
From: Ken Stanton <tt007ken@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S: AVC-R - 60% start duty??

Recently, I rewired my AVC-R to the RPM signal (white wire off ECM
connector, right?!) since the previous owner had it hardwired to the
IDC.  So, for the first time I'm going through the learn process.
Here's what I've done:

Set up gear judge and car select.
Set boost to 1.00 bar, DC to 40%.
NE point 2500-6500 (methinks)
Learn gear on for 2nd - 5th
Feedback 9 7 5 3 3
Start duty for 1st 50%, all others 0%

Ok, first of all, the boost in 2nd & 3rd was oscillating, so I set the
feedbacks down to:  9 6 4 2 2.  After turning the car off once, they
seem smooth now.

Then, I was only getting 10psi of boost.  So I had to turn it all the
way up to 60% Duty to get 14-15psi!  What am I doing wrong here?

Also, can I change settings 'on the fly,' or do you have to change them,
turn the car off, then restart?  (like Windows)
And, won't the controller change the start duties for each gear by
itself?

Thanks so much!
Ken Stanton
'91 Pearl White R/T TT
WITH 6-SPEED TRANNY =)

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