Team3S
Thursday, June 7
2001
Volume 01 : Number
513
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Date:
Wed, 06 Jun 2001 18:21:41 -0700
From: Richard <
radanc@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Big Reds with 17" 1G Stealth TT wheels?
The only problem becomes if you
want to upgrade the rotors reasonably. I
know my stock wheel (1st gen) has a
drop center measurement of less then
13 inches. This isn't enough room for
larger rotors, I found even for my
322 mm disc.
Rich
92 Stealth
TT
Merritt wrote:
>
> >I'm pretty sure you meant
"somebody with spacers _and_ BIG REDS should
> >try..." and I
just wanted to make sure everyone else understood that..
> >sorry if
I'm being rediculous about this.. just trying to save someone
>
>the aggrevation I had to deal with..
>
> Yep, I should have
been more explicit. It's a very good point, and worthy
> of discussion. IF
the spacers work, it would save anyone with a 1st gen
> car from
buying a set of wheels when they buy Big Reds. Like I shoulda
> said, I
have spacers and Big Reds, so if anyone in Iowa or nearby wants to
> see
if a 1st gen wheel will fit over Big Reds, I volunteer my car as a test
>
bed.
>
> Rich
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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:29:34
-0500
From: "Brad Bedell" <
bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Big Reds with 17" 1G Stealth TT wheels?
First Gen 3000
wheels. I have yet to confirm that the Stealth 1gen wheels
will fit
over the brakes.
To clarify: Some welds on the 1gen 3000 wheels are
sloppy. I had to
grind/smooth the weld so that it would clear the
caliper. (1/16" is
actually about the clearance, not
1/8")
If I have led anyone to believe that 1gen stealth wheels will fit,
I
apologize. I have NOT tested them.
Brad
Check out my
home page:
http://home.austin.rr.com/overboost/E-Mail:
bbedell@austin.rr.com ICQ#
3612682
- -----Original Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of WALTER D. BEST
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 7:58 PM
To: Dave
Monarchi; Merritt
Cc: Team3S List (E-mail)
Subject: Re: Team3S: Big Reds
with 17" 1G Stealth TT wheels?
OK folks from what I understood from Brad
Bedell was that yes the big Red
will indeed fit the 1st gen wheels. At
least, that is what he has told me.
I will soon be finding out for sure when
Flash and I meet up at the Blue
Ridge Gathering in Pigeon Forge TN, the
weekend of the 22-24 June. At least
I will try one wheel and find out
for sure. I know it will be tight, but
according to Brad it should
work. If they do work, I'll also be getting a
set real soon there
after.
What Brad told me was that on some of the first generation wheels
they had
to grind down the wields a bit and shave off a little from the
calipers, but
after doing that most cleared by 1/8" or so. I have
Kinesis Wheels and I do
have a little more room between the stock caliper
(1st Gen) and the wheel
then the stock wheels, but they are still
17"ers.
Hopefully we will have a positive answer soon,
Dave
Best
Don't have room to list my mods, but I have most of them listed on my
web
page:
http://davebest.dsmpower.com/. Of
course this doesn't include the HKS
Fuel pump, 2nd gen rear brake conversion,
SS lines, or ARC-2 I have in the
garage waiting for time to install
them. This week has been taken up
installing air ducting for the HKS
Intercoolers, a grill and a set of Fram
air horns. I hope to have the
2nd generation rear brake conversion done by
the time we take on Deals
Gap.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Merritt" <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
To:
"Dave Monarchi" <
monarchd@refuge.Colorado.EDU>
Cc:
"Team3S List (E-mail)" <
team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Wednesday, June 06, 2001 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Big Reds with 17" 1G
Stealth TT wheels?
> >I'm pretty sure you meant "somebody with
spacers _and_ BIG REDS should
> >try..." and I just wanted to
make sure everyone else understood that..
> >sorry if I'm being
rediculous about this.. just trying to save someone
> >the
aggrevation I had to deal with..
>
> Yep, I should have been more
explicit. It's a very good point, and worthy
> of discussion. IF the
spacers work, it would save anyone with a 1st gen
> car from buying
a set of wheels when they buy Big Reds. Like I shoulda
> said, I have
spacers and Big Reds, so if anyone in Iowa or nearby wants to
> see if a
1st gen wheel will fit over Big Reds, I volunteer my car as a
test
>
bed.
>
> Rich
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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 18:24:52
-0700
From: Richard <
radanc@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Transmission Upgrade
Thanks for the info, and that is exactly why I am
asking because the
tranny by Kormex isn't being designed to handle 550 HP
regularly. They
mostly have stock replacements.
Rich
92 Stealth
TT
Jason Barnhart wrote:
>
> Last I heard was that Altered
Atmosphere was also rebuilding our trannies
> using the Kormex
parts.
>
> Just so people understand, according to Kormex
themselves, the synchros are
> NOT upgrades. They are simply
replicas of the factory parts that are not
> available for purchase.
Kormex told me "they seem to grip better than the
> used factory synchros
we tested..." so they might not be an improvement at
> all.
>
> Kormex hardly even warranties the equipment, like 90 days or
less. No
> thanks, I'll explore other options.
>
>
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joshua G. Prince" <
joshua@unconundrum.com>
> To:
"Team3S (E-mail)" <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 5:08 PM
> Subject: RE: Team3S: Transmission
Upgrade
>
> > Is kormex the only company has built the
*supposedly* upgraded synchros?
> >
> > Joshua Prince
>
> 97 1/2 Fly Yellow Hummer Convertible
> > 3SI#0136
> >
Microsoft Certified System Engineer
> >
Joshua@Unconundrum.com>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Richard
[mailto:radanc@home.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 4:58
PM
> > To: Floyd, Jim
> > Cc: Team3S (E-mail)
> >
Subject: Re: Team3S: Transmission Upgrade
> >
> > Yeah, I was
hoping of something better, but I know Kormex is just about
> > the
only place messing with the tranny. Thanks!
> >
> > "Floyd,
Jim" wrote:
> > >
> > > Rich,
> > >
>
> > The last E-mail I saw
from Jack T. he said he was not doing
> > anything
> > > on
our transmissions.
> >
> Do you know about Kormex
?
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >
-----Original Message-----
> > > From: Richard
[mailto:radanc@home.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 5:23
PM
> > > Cc: Team3S (E-mail)
> > > Subject: Team3S:
Transmission Upgrade
> > >
> > > Searching the old posts
it seemed like Jack T was working on an
> > upgrade
> > >
to the Getrag tranny. Jack or anyone out there anyone know of anything
>
> > that exists or anyone capable of doing this. I think this is
worth
> > some
> > > effort since this seems to be the weak
link in the drive train once
> > you
> > > upgrade the
standard parts. I can't see the value of going through
> > >
multiple getrag trannys if this could be done. Any information or tips
>
> > would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > Rich
>
> > 92 Stealth TT
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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 18:26:06
-0700
From: Richard <
radanc@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Transmission Upgrade
This would be most appreciated, and again I am
looking for upgrade not
replacement since the stock tranny isn't really made
for the high output
with significant upgrades.
Rich
"Floyd,
Jim" wrote:
>
> I
did see an E-mail come through about a company in the SE that was
>
rebuilding our trannys.
>
I'll see if I can get the number for you.
>
> -----Original
Message-----
> From: Richard [mailto:radanc@home.com]
> Sent:
Wednesday, June 06, 2001 2:58 PM
> To: Floyd, Jim
> Cc: Team3S
(E-mail)
> Subject: Re: Team3S: Transmission Upgrade
>
>
Yeah, I was hoping of something better, but I know Kormex is just about
>
the only place messing with the tranny. Thanks!
>
> "Floyd, Jim"
wrote:
> >
> > Rich,
> >
>
> The last E-mail I saw from
Jack T. he said he was not doing
> anything
> > on our
transmissions.
> > Do
you know about Kormex ?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
-----Original Message-----
> > From: Richard
[mailto:radanc@home.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 5:23
PM
> > Cc: Team3S (E-mail)
> > Subject: Team3S: Transmission
Upgrade
> >
> > Searching the old posts it seemed like Jack T
was working on an upgrade
> > to the Getrag tranny. Jack or anyone out
there anyone know of anything
> > that exists or anyone capable of
doing this. I think this is worth some
> > effort since this seems to
be the weak link in the drive train once you
> > upgrade the standard
parts. I can't see the value of going through
> > multiple getrag
trannys if this could be done. Any information or tips
> > would be
appreciated.
> >
> > Rich
> > 92 Stealth
TT
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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 18:36:58
-0700
From: Richard <
radanc@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Big Reds with 17" 1G Stealth TT wheels?
For what its worth I measured my
1st gen stealth TT 5 spoke alloy wheel
for the F-40s and I could have done it
with a larger spacer then I would
have wanted, but they couldn't accomodate
the 322 mm discs I wanted.
This was the major problem with the stock
wheels.
By the way they are for sale if anyone wants them.
Rich
92
Stealth TT
Brad Bedell wrote:
>
> First Gen 3000
wheels. I have yet to confirm that the Stealth 1gen wheels
> will
fit over the brakes.
>
> To clarify: Some welds on the 1gen
3000 wheels are sloppy. I had to
> grind/smooth the weld so that it
would clear the caliper. (1/16" is
> actually about the
clearance, not 1/8")
>
> If I have led anyone to believe that 1gen
stealth wheels will fit, I
> apologize. I have NOT tested
them.
>
> Brad
> Check out my home page:
http://home.austin.rr.com/overboost/>
E-Mail:
bbedell@austin.rr.com
ICQ# 3612682
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of WALTER D. BEST
> Sent:
Wednesday, June 06, 2001 7:58 PM
> To: Dave Monarchi; Merritt
> Cc:
Team3S List (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: Team3S: Big Reds with 17" 1G Stealth
TT wheels?
>
> OK folks from what I understood from Brad Bedell was
that yes the big Red
> will indeed fit the 1st gen wheels. At least,
that is what he has told me.
> I will soon be finding out for sure when
Flash and I meet up at the Blue
> Ridge Gathering in Pigeon Forge TN, the
weekend of the 22-24 June. At least
> I will try one wheel and find
out for sure. I know it will be tight, but
> according to Brad it
should work. If they do work, I'll also be getting a
> set real soon
there after.
>
> What Brad told me was that on some of the first
generation wheels they had
> to grind down the wields a bit and shave off
a little from the calipers, but
> after doing that most cleared by 1/8" or
so. I have Kinesis Wheels and I do
> have a little more room between
the stock caliper (1st Gen) and the wheel
> then the stock wheels, but
they are still 17"ers.
>
> Hopefully we will have a positive answer
soon,
>
> Dave Best
> Don't have room to list my mods, but I
have most of them listed on my web
> page:
http://davebest.dsmpower.com/. Of
course this doesn't include the HKS
> Fuel pump, 2nd gen rear brake
conversion, SS lines, or ARC-2 I have in the
> garage waiting for time to
install them. This week has been taken up
> installing air ducting
for the HKS Intercoolers, a grill and a set of Fram
> air horns. I
hope to have the 2nd generation rear brake conversion done by
> the time
we take on Deals Gap.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
From: "Merritt" <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
>
To: "Dave Monarchi" <
monarchd@refuge.Colorado.EDU>
>
Cc: "Team3S List (E-mail)" <
team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 7:38 PM
> Subject: Re: Team3S: Big Reds
with 17" 1G Stealth TT wheels?
>
> > >I'm pretty sure you
meant "somebody with spacers _and_ BIG REDS should
> >
>try..." and I just wanted to make sure everyone else understood
that..
> > >sorry if I'm being rediculous about this.. just
trying to save someone
> > >the aggrevation I had to deal
with..
> >
> > Yep, I should have been more explicit. It's a
very good point, and worthy
> > of discussion. IF the spacers
work, it would save anyone with a 1st gen
> > car from buying a set of
wheels when they buy Big Reds. Like I shoulda
> > said, I have spacers
and Big Reds, so if anyone in Iowa or nearby wants to
> > see if a 1st
gen wheel will fit over Big Reds, I volunteer my car as a
> test
>
> bed.
> >
> > Rich
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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:57:56
-0700
From: "Gross, Erik" <
erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Big Reds with 17" 1G Stealth TT wheels?
Thanks for all the
responses, guys!
> I think it would be worth an $84 investment
in
> spacers to find out. At best, it would provide enough clearance
to
> eliminate the need to buy new wheels. At the worst, you'd
>
have a set of spacers to spread your front wheel track, and that's a good
> thing all by itself.
Yeah, I might go that route eventually,
but lemme make sure I understand
things correctly... a spacer fits
between the wheel and the hub,
effectively moving the wheel out (widening the
track), right?
If that's right, I don't see how a spacer will help
in my case. The
clearance problem is not that the wheel spokes do not
clear the side of the
caliper (with the "MITSUBISHI" on it), it's that the
inner diameter of the
wheel itself rubs against the back of the stock
caliper. The spokes of the
wheel clear the caliper ok (very tight
tolerance, but not that different
from 2G wheels).
Unless I
were to get a spacer that would extend the wheel so far out that
the caliper
would no longer be inside the wheel, I'm not sure I see how a
spacer will
help. But if I did that, I'd have to lower the car to 0.1" off
the
ground and put 10" wheels on it...
Am I missing some thing here? I
guess what I'm trying to figure out (may be
a Big Red person can measure
this) is whether the distance from the center
of the wheel to the outer edge
of the caliper is smaller for the Big Reds
than the stock calipers. To
make my 17" wheels work, the total diameter of
the "stuff" inside the wheel
would need to be about 1/4" smaller, maybe a
little more.
-
--Erik
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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 20:56:03
-0500
From: "Brad Bedell" <
bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Big Reds with 17" 1G Stealth TT wheels?
From center of hub to
outer most of the caliper: 6.3/4"
From flat area of rotor (where wheel
touches) to outermost of caliper: 2
7/8"
Hope that
helps. These numbers are rounded to the nearest 1/8"
(rounded
larger)
Brad
Check out my home page:
http://home.austin.rr.com/overboost/E-Mail:
bbedell@austin.rr.com ICQ#
3612682
Am I missing some thing here? I guess what I'm trying
to figure out (may be
a Big Red person can measure this) is whether the
distance from the center
of the wheel to the outer edge of the caliper is
smaller for the Big Reds
than the stock calipers. To make my 17" wheels
work, the total diameter of
the "stuff" inside the wheel would need to be
about 1/4" smaller, maybe a
little more.
- --Erik
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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 22:52:56
EDT
From:
ViPeR41879@aol.comSubject: Team3S:
Please I Need Tire Advice ASAP!!
Well after all my trouble with trying to
find some racing hart C5s. I finally found some, but the wheel widths are not
the same. They are 18x8.5 on front and 18x9.5 on rear. Brand new for $2500. I'm
not too keen on this wheel setup, but if thats all I can find, should I go for
it? I'm planning on putting bridgestone potenza RE730s on them.......since I
wont be able to rotate them, is that really a big deal. Would I really loose
that much tire life by not being able to rotate them. That is my biggest concern
since these tires are ~$200 each. And also do you all think 2500 is a good price
for them?
In short, to cut to the chase if I buy four 8.5" width wheels
and put RE730's on them, will the tire last much longer than if I went with the
above wheel setup(using 8.5 and 9.5 width wheels)?
Sorry for such a long
post, but this is very serious stuff to me.
Thanks again guys for any
responses,
Nathan
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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 20:52:22
-0700
From: Richard <
radanc@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Big Reds with 17" 1G Stealth TT wheels?
No, You are right a spacer won't
help that. You need more room diameter
wide in the wheel. A spacer will not
achieve this.
Rich
"Gross, Erik" wrote:
>
> Thanks
for all the responses, guys!
>
> > I think it would be worth an
$84 investment in
> > spacers to find out. At best, it would provide
enough clearance to
> > eliminate the need to buy new wheels. At the
worst, you'd
> > have a set of spacers to spread your front wheel
track, and that's a good
> > thing all by itself.
>
>
Yeah, I might go that route eventually, but lemme make sure I understand
>
things correctly... a spacer fits between the wheel and the hub,
>
effectively moving the wheel out (widening the track), right?
>
>
If that's right, I don't see how a spacer will help in my case.
The
> clearance problem is not that the wheel spokes do not clear the side
of the
> caliper (with the "MITSUBISHI" on it), it's that the inner
diameter of the
> wheel itself rubs against the back of the stock
caliper. The spokes of the
> wheel clear the caliper ok (very tight
tolerance, but not that different
> from 2G wheels).
>
>
Unless I were to get a spacer that would extend the wheel so far out
that
> the caliper would no longer be inside the wheel, I'm not sure I see
how a
> spacer will help. But if I did that, I'd have to lower the
car to 0.1" off
> the ground and put 10" wheels on it...
>
>
Am I missing some thing here? I guess what I'm trying to figure out (may
be
> a Big Red person can measure this) is whether the distance from the
center
> of the wheel to the outer edge of the caliper is smaller for the
Big Reds
> than the stock calipers. To make my 17" wheels work, the
total diameter of
> the "stuff" inside the wheel would need to be about
1/4" smaller, maybe a
> little more.
> --Erik
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Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 00:16:11
-0400
From: Ken Stanton <
tt007ken@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Super stiff clutch AWD
Anyone have/have had a super stiff clutch
petal? I've replaced clutch
and tranny, so I don't think its them
(unrelated).
Thanks!
Ken
'91 Pearl White Stealth R/T
TT
6-speed conversion =)
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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 23:16:55
-0600
From: Dave Monarchi <
monarchd@refuge.Colorado.EDU>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Big Reds with 17" 1G Stealth TT wheels?
perhaps I'm flogging
a dead horse as some might say, but:
Actually, the 25mm spacers _might_
work, but that would be a little
extreme.. not the right
solution.. my wheels already stick out of
the fenders by about 1/4th"
or so.. take a look at my pictures
again.. I added a third that
shows the sloping "ledges" on the
inside of the wheel.. spacing the
wheel out another 10mm might
do it, but it's kind of a moot point since
that's not the answer..
pics:
http://ucsu.colorado.edu/~monarchd/3000gt/wheels.htmlI
originally put my 15mm spacers on to solve 2 problems:
1) clear the
interference on the inside of the wheel so I could
use a set of
1st gen wheels on my 95 VR4 for the winter..
--- DOESN'T WORK
for stock 2nd gen calipers! ---
2) help eliminate the major understeer or
"push" our cars have..
--- somewhat worked.. definitely
has taken some time to get
used to, but I ran two autocross
events with the spacers on
and it seemed to help a bit..
_however_ the car is also a
bit "twitchier" now in daily
driving.. picked up some
mild vibration too..
keep in mind that your investment doesn't include LABOR!!! if
you're lucky enough to have a hub that comes apart easily, or
have the
right tools, it may be no problem.. I ended up paying
my mechanic to do
mine and was over $200 labor.. remember you
have to swap out 10 studs
to put this style of spacer on..
hope this has been useful and not a
waste of bandwidth..
Dave
=======================
= 95 Black
3000GT VR4 =
= 87 Mica Red GTI G60 =
http://ucsu.colorado.edu/~monarchd/cars.html
= There is no spoon.. =
=======================
-
--------
+> No, You are right a spacer won't help that. You need more
room diameter
+> wide in the wheel. A spacer will not achieve
this.
+>
+> Rich
+>
+> "Gross, Erik" wrote:
+>
>
+> > Thanks for all the responses, guys!
+> >
+>
> > I think it would be worth an $84 investment in
+> > >
spacers to find out. At best, it would provide enough clearance to
+> >
> eliminate the need to buy new wheels. At the worst, you'd
+> >
> have a set of spacers to spread your front wheel track, and that's a
goo
d
+> > > thing all by itself.
+> >
+> >
Yeah, I might go that route eventually, but lemme make sure I
understand
+> > things correctly... a spacer fits between the
wheel and the hub,
+> > effectively moving the wheel out (widening the
track), right?
+> >
+> > If that's right, I don't see how a
spacer will help in my case. The
+> > clearance problem is not
that the wheel spokes do not clear the side of th
e
+> > caliper
(with the "MITSUBISHI" on it), it's that the inner diameter of the
+> >
wheel itself rubs against the back of the stock caliper. The spokes of
th
e
+> > wheel clear the caliper ok (very tight tolerance, but not
that different
+> > from 2G wheels).
+> >
+> >
Unless I were to get a spacer that would extend the wheel so far out
that
+> > the caliper would no longer be inside the wheel, I'm not sure
I see how a
+> > spacer will help. But if I did that, I'd have to
lower the car to 0.1" of
f
+> > the ground and put 10" wheels on
it...
+> >
+> > Am I missing some thing here? I guess
what I'm trying to figure out (may
be
+> > a Big Red person can
measure this) is whether the distance from the center
+> > of the wheel
to the outer edge of the caliper is smaller for the Big Reds
+> > than
the stock calipers. To make my 17" wheels work, the total diameter
o
f
+> > the "stuff" inside the wheel would need to be about 1/4"
smaller, maybe a
+> > little more.
+> >
--Erik
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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 23:29:52
-0600
From: Dave Monarchi <
monarchd@refuge.Colorado.EDU>
Subject:
sunroof regulator (was: Re: Team3S: Big Reds with 17" 1G Stealth TT
wheels? )
- --------
+> the fenders by about 1/4th" or
so.. take a look at my pictures
uh, I originally wrote 1/8th and
then realized it was more and forgot
to drop the th.. I really hate it
when I forget to proof my posts..
:P
k.. enough of this
nonsense..
anyone parting out a car with a manual glass
sunroof? I'm still in
search of a used regulator (the crank
mechanism).. reply
privately
please..
Dave
=======================
= 95 Black
3000GT VR4 =
= 87 Mica Red GTI G60 =
http://ucsu.colorado.edu/~monarchd/cars.html
= There is no spoon.. =
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Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:28:14
+0200
From: "Mikael Kenson" <
vr4@bahnhof.se>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Super stiff clutch AWD
You probably mounted the vacuum hose between the
intake manifold and clutch booster the wrong way. It has a check valve inside so
it's important that it's mounted in the right direction.
Mikael
Kenson
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Stanton" <
tt007ken@yahoo.com>
To: "Team3S
Stealth" <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Thursday, June 07, 2001 6:16 AM
Subject: Team3S: Super stiff clutch
AWD
> Anyone have/have had a super stiff clutch petal? I've
replaced clutch
> and tranny, so I don't think its them
(unrelated).
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ken
> '91 Pearl
White Stealth R/T TT
> 6-speed conversion =)
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Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 04:23:01
-0700 (PDT)
From: John Christian <
jczoom_619@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Big Reds with 17" 1G Stealth TT wheels?
Hi Erik,
The
answer is NO. The Stealth 1st gen rims will not
clear the second gen
caliper/rotor combination. (Its
the inner dia near the weld that does
not clear).
The almost good news is that the BIG RED
combination
is closer to fitting, but still will NOT clear.
Be of
good cheer,
John
- --- "Gross, Erik" <
erik.gross@intel.com> wrote:
>
Thanks for all the responses, guys!
>
> > I think it would be
worth an $84 investment in
> > spacers to find out. At best, it would
provide
> enough clearance to
> > eliminate the need to buy new
wheels. At the
> worst, you'd
> > have a set of spacers to
spread your front wheel
> track, and that's a good
> > thing all
by itself.
>
> Yeah, I might go that route eventually, but
lemme
> make sure I understand
> things correctly... a spacer
fits between the wheel
> and the hub,
> effectively moving the wheel
out (widening the
> track), right?
>
> If that's
right, I don't see how a spacer will help
> in my case. The
>
clearance problem is not that the wheel spokes do
> not clear the side of
the
> caliper (with the "MITSUBISHI" on it), it's that the
> inner
diameter of the
> wheel itself rubs against the back of the stock
>
caliper. The spokes of the
> wheel clear the caliper ok (very tight
tolerance,
> but not that different
> from 2G wheels).
>
> Unless I were to get a spacer that would extend the
>
wheel so far out that
> the caliper would no longer be inside the wheel,
I'm
> not sure I see how a
> spacer will help. But if I did
that, I'd have to
> lower the car to 0.1" off
> the ground and put
10" wheels on it...
>
> Am I missing some thing here? I guess
what I'm
> trying to figure out (may be
> a Big Red person can
measure this) is whether the
> distance from the center
> of the
wheel to the outer edge of the caliper is
> smaller for the Big
Reds
> than the stock calipers. To make my 17" wheels
> work,
the total diameter of
> the "stuff" inside the wheel would need to be
about
> 1/4" smaller, maybe a
> little more.
>
--Erik
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12.4@109MPH
5/97 almost stock
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Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 04:29:18
-0700 (PDT)
From: John Christian <
jczoom_619@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Big Reds with 17" 1G Stealth TT wheels?
Hi Walter,
Yes,
some 17" aftermarket rims will fit the second gen
system. If they clear
the second gen, then they will
have MORE room with the BIG REDS.
Ge of
good cheer,
John
- --- "WALTER D. BEST" <
WDBO39@erols.com> wrote:
> OK folks
from what I understood from Brad Bedell was
> that yes the big Red
>
will indeed fit the 1st gen wheels. At least, that
> is what he has
told me.
> I will soon be finding out for sure when Flash and I
>
meet up at the Blue
> Ridge Gathering in Pigeon Forge TN, the weekend
of
> the 22-24 June. At least
> I will try one wheel and find
out for sure. I know
> it will be tight, but
> according to
Brad it should work. If they do work,
> I'll also be getting
a
> set real soon there after.
>
> What Brad told me was that
on some of the first
> generation wheels they had
> to grind down
the wields a bit and shave off a
> little from the calipers, but
>
after doing that most cleared by 1/8" or so. I have
> Kinesis Wheels
and I do
> have a little more room between the stock caliper
> (1st
Gen) and the wheel
> then the stock wheels, but they are still
17"ers.
>
> Hopefully we will have a positive answer soon,
>
> Dave Best
> Don't have room to list my mods, but I have most
of
> them listed on my web
> page:
http://davebest.dsmpower.com/. Of
course this
> doesn't include the HKS
> Fuel pump, 2nd gen rear
brake conversion, SS lines,
> or ARC-2 I have in the
> garage
waiting for time to install them. This week
> has been taken
up
> installing air ducting for the HKS Intercoolers, a
> grill and
a set of Fram
> air horns. I hope to have the 2nd generation
rear
> brake conversion done by
> the time we take on Deals
Gap.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Merritt"
<
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
>
To: "Dave Monarchi" <
monarchd@refuge.Colorado.EDU>
>
Cc: "Team3S List (E-mail)"
> <
team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 7:38 PM
> Subject: Re: Team3S: Big Reds
with 17" 1G Stealth TT
> wheels?
>
>
> > >I'm
pretty sure you meant "somebody with spacers
> _and_ BIG REDS
should
> > >try..." and I just wanted to make sure
everyone
> else understood that..
> > >sorry if I'm being
rediculous about this.. just
> trying to save someone
> >
>the aggrevation I had to deal with..
> >
> > Yep, I should
have been more explicit. It's a very
> good point, and worthy
> >
of discussion. IF the spacers work, it would save
> anyone with a
1st gen
> > car from buying a set of wheels when they buy Big
>
Reds. Like I shoulda
> > said, I have spacers and Big Reds, so if
anyone in
> Iowa or nearby wants to
> > see if a 1st gen wheel
will fit over Big Reds, I
> volunteer my car as a
> test
>
> bed.
> >
> > Rich
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5/97 almost stock
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Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 06:50:06
-0500
From: "Mark Wendlandt" <
stealth_tt@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Maximum boost with stock cast pistons
Ya know, it really gets
frustrating. I ask for some recommendations
regarding boost/egt levels
and I don't even get one response. Someone asks
about wheel clearances
and they get 50! What do I have to do...talk about
Driven or The Fast
and Furious...to get any responses? I though this was a
tech list and
the place to ask. Someone has to have a similar setup as I
with some
history and some theories about cylinder pressures. Maybe I have
to
re-sub to the Starnet List!
Mark Wendlandt(Disgruntled list
member)
'91RT/TT
>From: "Mark Wendlandt" <
stealth_tt@hotmail.com>
>To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>Subject:
Team3S: Maximum boost with stock cast pistons
>Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001
19:23:42 -0500
>
>If I were to take all precautions against
detonation, what is the maximum
>boost that the stock pistons can
handle. I know that there are several of
>you out there that have
found the melt down point(Jack, Arty and probably
>everyone else with
forged pistons)..but, what is felt is the same limit?
>It
>is
just a function of boost(i.e. stay under 20psi) or more of EGTs(i.e.
>stay
>under 1900F.)
>
>I'm going to be running race
gas(110) and have datalog capabilities as well
>as EGT probes. I
have 15Gs with RC560s and an ARC2 controller.
>
>I'm not ready to
tear into the motor quite yet and I don't want to
be
>reckless.
>
>What is everyone comfortable
with?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Mark
Wendlandt
>'91RT/TT
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Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:22:50
-0400
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <
DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Please I Need Tire Advice ASAP!!
Any of our AWD cars MUST
have the exact same size wheel and tire or else you
risk breaking the center
and rear differential on the car. I am not sure
about the non-AWD cars
but imagine we treat those as classic FWD cars that
can have different front
and rear sizes.
You didn't tell us what car you have so we can not
help.
- --Flash!
1995 VR-4 with four 18x8.5 and four 245/40/18
dschilberg@pobox.com <
mailto:dschilberg@pobox.com>
-
-----Original Message-----
From:
ViPeR41879@aol.com
[mailto:ViPeR41879@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 10:53 PM
To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st;
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st;
stealth@starnet.netSubject: Team3S:
Please I Need Tire Advice ASAP!!
Well after all my trouble with trying to
find some racing hart C5s. I
finally found some, but the wheel widths are not
the same. They are 18x8.5
on front and 18x9.5 on rear. Brand new for $2500.
I'm not too keen on this
wheel setup, but if thats all I can find, should I
go for it? I'm planning
on putting bridgestone potenza RE730s on
them.......since I wont be able to
rotate them, is that really a big deal.
Would I really loose that much tire
life by not being able to rotate them.
That is my biggest concern since
these tires are ~$200 each. And also do you
all think 2500 is a good price
for them?
In short, to cut to the
chase if I buy four 8.5" width wheels and put
RE730's on them, will the tire
last much longer than if I went with the
above wheel setup(using 8.5 and 9.5
width wheels)?
Sorry for such a long post, but this is very serious stuff
to me.
Thanks again guys for any responses,
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Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:25:33
-0400
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <
DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Maximum boost with stock cast pistons
(I'll step in before
the Admins slice you apart)
Have you tried searching the archives?
If it has been discussed then it is
in there.
Have you tried Jeff Lucius'
page? He generally has all major topics
covered.
Roger Gerl (turbo
God) also has some good stuff I believe.
And not everyone will have time
to deal with JUST your problem since not
everyone is running high boost,
large injectors, or different ECU
configurations. EVERYONE runs wheels
and tires on their car though so that
is obviously an easier thing to
discuss.
Good luck.
- --Flash!
dschilberg@pobox.com3Si
#577
1995 Black VR-4 w/ Big Reds, Autopower rollbar, Sparco Evo race
seat,
Simpson 5-point harnesses, Pirelli P-Zeros, Goodridge SS lines,
Magnecor
KV85 wires, and a custom spark plug plate
http://www.team3s.com/FAQrollbar.htm-
-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Wendlandt
[mailto:stealth_tt@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 7:50 AM
To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
Re: Team3S: Maximum boost with stock cast pistons
Ya know, it really gets
frustrating. I ask for some recommendations
regarding boost/egt levels
and I don't even get one response. Someone asks
about wheel clearances
and they get 50! What do I have to do...talk about
Driven or The Fast
and Furious...to get any responses? I though this was a
tech list and
the place to ask. Someone has to have a similar setup as I
with some
history and some theories about cylinder pressures. Maybe I have
to
re-sub to the Starnet List!
Mark Wendlandt(Disgruntled list
member)
'91RT/TT
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Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 10:09:08
-0400
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <
DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Please I Need Tire Advice ASAP!!
I think an SL (FWD) can have
different front and back sizes then but I do
not have that so I can't
help.
- --Flash!
1995 VR-4
- -----Original
Message-----
From:
ViPeR41879@aol.com
[mailto:ViPeR41879@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 9:58 AM
To:
DSchilberg@freemarkets.comSubject:
RE: Team3S: Please I Need Tire Advice ASAP!!
Oh I have a 94 3000GT
SL......I sent it to the starnet list also and sent
later emails telling what
car I have, but forgot to send it to you guys
also. Sorry about
that.
Nathan
94 SL
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Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 10:43:31
-0400
From: Ken Stanton <
tt007ken@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Super stiff clutch AWD
I checked the check valve hose.. it is
fine. When I took it off, there was still residual pressure in the
line.
I've been having trouble shifting at times, especially at a
stop. Sometimes the clutch won't disengage and when I go for a gear it
will either move the car or grind (grind 3rd gear only).
Any idea what
I'm up against here?
Ken
Mikael Kenson wrote:
> You
probably mounted the vacuum hose between the intake manifold and clutch booster
the wrong way. It has a check valve inside so it's important that it's mounted
in the right direction.
>
> Mikael Kenson
> ----- Original
Message -----
> From: "Ken Stanton" <
tt007ken@yahoo.com>
> To: "Team3S
Stealth" <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 6:16 AM
> Subject: Team3S: Super stiff
clutch AWD
>
> > Anyone have/have had a super stiff clutch
petal? I've replaced clutch
> > and tranny, so I don't think its
them (unrelated).
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
Ken
> > '91 Pearl White Stealth R/T TT
> > 6-speed conversion
=)
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Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 09:58:51
-0500
From: "Mark Wendlandt" <
stealth_tt@hotmail.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Maximum boost with stock cast pistons
>(I'll step in
before the Admins slice you apart)
>
>Have you tried searching the
archives? If it has been discussed then it is
>in there.
>Have
you tried Jeff Lucius' page? He generally has all major
topics
>covered.
Just because I didn't say "I spent hours searching
the archives and every
website that I could" you assume that I didn't and
the Admins are going to
slice me apart?!?! I guess that I'm going to
have to add that to my
signature for every post. I was not asking
about the stock boost gauge
accuracy or how to install a K&N air
filter! Not everything is in the
archives or has the answers that one
is looking for.
>And not everyone will have time to deal with JUST
your problem since not
>everyone is running high boost, large injectors,
or different ECU
>configurations. EVERYONE runs wheels and tires on
their car though so
> >that is obviously an easier thing to
discuss.
So everyone has wheels, but not everyone has "Big Reds" and is
concerned
about whether or not they will fit(I guaranty more are running
high boost
and larger injectors than Big Reds.) I agree that it is an
easier thing to
discuss, but that is why I belong to this list...to discuss
things that are
technical and difficult to discuss. I was naive to
think that I might spark
a discussion about the structural limits of our
engines.
I may not contribute a lot technically to the list(Matt), but I
have worked
on a lot of these cars and feel that I know my way around them
mechanically
and contribute when a topic comes up that I know about(not just
think I know
about).
Mark (Yes, I searched the archives)
Wendlandt
'91RT/TT
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Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 10:05:11
-0500
From: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Maximum boost with stock cast pistons
I gotta admit, Mark
asked a good question. I've been waiting for an answer
to it.
I'd answer
it if I could, but I don't know diddly about our engines. I'd
like to hear an
answer because I intend to add boost and larger injectors,
and want to keep
everything at a safe level for extended on-track running.
I'm concerned about
running 15 psi for 20 minutes at WOT and burning the
tops off my pistons. My
plans are to run water injection, a Supra fuel pump
and Alamo intercoolers in
hopes of avoiding problems.
Rich/old poop
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Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 11:50:46
-0400
From: Ken Stanton <
tt007ken@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S:
HOLY SNIKEYS! Front tires wearing faster than backs
Wow... this
absolutely amazed me. I've just now noticed that my front
tires are
wearing much much much faster than my rears! I bought the car
with
these tires on it, and they looked brandy new at purchase.
Now, I did
just finish my 6-speed conversion, however I checked the
differential and
transfer case and they surely are 6-speeder's.
Am I going
insane?
Ken Stanton
'91 Pearl White R/T TT
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Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 17:52:28
+0200
From: Roger Gerl <
roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Maximum boost with stock cast pistons
>Ya know, it really
gets frustrating. I ask for some recommendations
>regarding
boost/egt levels and I don't even get one response. Someone
>asks
about wheel clearances and they get 50!
Yes, true, because almost
everybody have touched their wheels or changed
brakepads as well as calipers
and disks. This is what most of us can do by
ourselfs but there are not many
that ever touched our pistons ! What do you
want, true figures ore simple
guesses ?
> What do I have to do...talk about Driven or
The Fast and Furious...to
> get any responses? I though this was a
tech list and the place to
> ask. Someone has to have a similar
setup as I with some history and some
> theories about cylinder
pressures.
Boost till you drop and then you can tell ! Been there done
that :(
> Maybe I have to re-sub to the Starnet
List!
Any time, but be prepared to get many unqualified answers. The fact
you
don't got any answers is the fact that nobody wants to tell you any
wrong
stuff.
But you asked for and here are my answers
:
>>If I were to take all precautions against detonation, what is
the maximum
>>boost that the stock pistons can handle.
14.7
psi
>> I know that there are several of
>>you
out there that have found the melt down point(Jack, Arty and
probably
>>everyone else with forged pistons)..but, what is felt is the
same limit?
What same limit ? My pistons broke, my rings broke but on
what psi ? Maybe
on 15,16,17 psi .... who knows ??????
>>is
just a function of boost(i.e. stay under 20psi) or more of EGTs(i.e.
stay
>>under 1900F.)
No idea. Maybe boost today of 20 psi for
8.2 seconds, tomorrow 15 psi for
22 seconds ... who knows ? Maybe every day
you can only run less boost as
the engine goes more and more south
!
>>I'm going to be running race gas(110) and have datalog
capabilities as well
>>as EGT probes. I have 15Gs with RC560s and
an ARC2 controller.
Cool, boost until you see knock and send us the logs.
Increase boost then
until knock count increases above 13. Note the boost and
you are at the
limit. But of course this will change with any different
ambient !!
>>I'm not ready to tear into the motor quite yet and I
don't want to be
>>reckless.
>>
>>What is everyone
comfortable with?
I'm not feeling comfortable with any boost above 14.7
psi ....
No, this are the answers to your questions
?
Roger
93'3000GT TT
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Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:29:55
-0500
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <
mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Maximum boost with stock cast pistons
> What do I have to
do...talk about Driven or The Fast and
> Furious...to get any
responses?
Wouldn't hurt. If you aren't talking about brakes and
wheels and tires
there isn't a wide range of knowlege here,
unfortunately. Not a whole lot
of interest in fast acceleration I
guess. I have yet to get an answer to
the extremely simple question I
asked weeks ago about the fuel pressure
solenoid, and if you ask twice people
jump on you.
I've spoken with someone who should know about such things
and his
recommendation is to not exceed 22 psi on the stock pistons if you
want to
retain some amount of longevity. I'd say 20 psi is pretty safe
if you are
using race gas (I've ran 20 psi on several tanks of race fuel
and
compression on my motor is still excellent). 22 psi sounds like it
is a
little on the edge, but still probably "do-able", although at some
elevated
risk.
His opinion was that the stock castings just can't hold
up to the pressure
stresses past 22 psi and start to fracture. Once the
fracturing starts, its
terminal.
- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder
VR4
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Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 12:35:15
-0400
From: "Darrien Lao" <
dlao2@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Maximum boost with stock cast pistons
>>If I were to take all
precautions against detonation, what is the maximum
>>boost that the
stock pistons can handle.
14.7 psi
>> I know
that there are several of
>>you out there that have found the melt down
point(Jack, Arty and probably
>>everyone else with forged
pistons)..but, what is felt is the same limit?
What same limit ? My
pistons broke, my rings broke but on what psi ? Maybe
on 15,16,17 psi ....
who knows ??????
- -------------------------------
The crucial
detail that Roger neglects to mention is he blew up his motor on
a stock fuel
system. Several folks from 3SI are currently running well over
14.7
with upgraded fuel systems. Obviously, anything past stock boost
poses
a risk. But what is life without risks? I do agree with
Roger on one point
though. Log the hell out of it. We're never going to
find any real advances
in these engines if everyone sticks to what's known to
be "safe" and never
takes any risks in the name of innovation. Mark,
you may want to try
3si.org. There's a lot of chaff to dig through, but
there is a wealth of
technical information and knowledgeable people to talk
to if you just spend
a little time looking. Good luck.
Darrien
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Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 18:35:09
+0200
From: Roger Gerl <
roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Maximum boost with stock cast pistons
Ahh, damn, didn't
finished the last sentence right ....
>No, this are the answers to
your questions ?
I wanted to say : Are these the answers you were looking
for ?
I'm out till Sat or even longer again, so please be patient to get
any answers.
Roger
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Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 12:57:57
-0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
Team3S: clutch replacement on a 6 speed VR4 (not for drag racing)
I
haven't been happy with the clutch pedal travel since I bought the car
last
October. I finally got the clutch to slip in 6th gear under boost.
Just
got a $1200 quote for a stock clutch replacement by a local Mitsu
dealer, not
covered by my extended warranty (shit). Funny thing is that the
clutch
master and slave cylinders ARE covered.
Any advantage to having someone
else do the work? I am not ambitious enough
to try it myself. ("A
man's got to know his limitations.")
The lesson I took from preceding
discussions is that there is significant
cost and risk associated with any
aftermarket clutch and little benefit for
my type of driving (street and road
courses, no drag racing).
Is there anything else I should have them do at
the same time?
Chuck
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Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 14:00:59
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From: "Zobel, Kurt" <
KURT.ZOBEL@ca.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Please I Need Tire Advice ASAP!!
On the FWD you can mix any
tire/rim size you want.
It is just a matter of driving style and
steering clearances, brake clearance(if modified) and handling
consequences. A one inch difference in rim width should not affect
anything, as long as the fitted tire diameters are close. You will likely
have substantial spedometer error.
The front tires will undoubtedly wear
much faster(twice as fast) than the rear but tire rotation should not be an
issue if allignment is good. I drive somewhat reasonably on the street, and only
a few times at the strip or track on street tires. I have only ever had to swap
front to rear, about every 6 to 12 months, and replace with new tires on the
front. The 6 to 12 months may give you a clue to what my 'reasonable' is on the
street?
On the track I highly recommend Khumo or Gforce tires. On my FWD
I also found recently a significant performance improvement at Willow Springs in
having a larger tire DIAMETER and width on the rear wheels. 245/45-16 front and
255/50-16 on the rear. This is about 1.5" difference, so if
anything,
try to get a
larger fitted diameter on the rear.
Kurt 96 NT Glacier Pearl
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-----Original Message-----
From: Schilberg, Darren
[mailto:DSchilberg@freemarkets.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 5:23
AM
To:
'ViPeR41879@aol.com'; Team3S
(E-mail)
Subject: RE: Team3S: Please I Need Tire Advice ASAP!!
Any
of our AWD cars MUST have the exact same size wheel and tire or else you
risk
breaking the center and rear differential on the car. I am not
sure
about the non-AWD cars but imagine we treat those as classic FWD cars
that
can have different front and rear sizes.
You didn't tell us what
car you have so we can not help.
- --Flash!
1995 VR-4 with four 18x8.5
and four 245/40/18
dschilberg@pobox.com <
mailto:dschilberg@pobox.com>
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-----Original Message-----
From:
ViPeR41879@aol.com
[mailto:ViPeR41879@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 10:53 PM
To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st;
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st;
stealth@starnet.netSubject: Team3S:
Please I Need Tire Advice ASAP!!
Well after all my trouble with trying to
find some racing hart C5s. I
finally found some, but the wheel widths are not
the same. They are 18x8.5
on front and 18x9.5 on rear. Brand new for $2500.
I'm not too keen on this
wheel setup, but if thats all I can find, should I
go for it? I'm planning
on putting bridgestone potenza RE730s on
them.......since I wont be able to
rotate them, is that really a big deal.
Would I really loose that much tire
life by not being able to rotate them.
That is my biggest concern since
these tires are ~$200 each. And also do you
all think 2500 is a good price
for them?
In short, to cut to the
chase if I buy four 8.5" width wheels and put
RE730's on them, will the tire
last much longer than if I went with the
above wheel setup(using 8.5 and 9.5
width wheels)?
Sorry for such a long post, but this is very serious stuff
to me.
Thanks again guys for any responses,
Nathan
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