Team3S              Monday, June 4 2001              Volume 01 : Number 510




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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 14:46:04 -0700
From: "noble" <nketo@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Anyone interested in stock vs FMIC data?

Hi Rich,

Could you please send me any and all logs regarding those tests?
It would be helpful for properly tuning my car :)

Thanks in advance,
Noble


- ----- Original Message -----
From: Rich Fowler <richfowler2@home.com>
To: Team3s@Stealth-3000gt. St <team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 8:39 AM
Subject: Team3S: Anyone interested in stock vs FMIC data?


> This weekend, I'm planning on testing the stock intercoolers in my car
> versus the front mount in Georges car (he doesn't know this yet, but I'm
> sure he will not mind).  We both have similar mods 357s, ARC 2, Injectors,
> newly rebuild engines.  I going to use a dual input digital thermometer
with
> two wire probes.  That way, I can check constant readings and peak hold.
> I'm plan on taking the temp before the drivers side intercooler and after
> the intercooler and comparing the readings to what the FMIC temps are
before
> and after the core.  If we test idle temps, 15 psi run through 3rd, idle
> after a hard run, and cruise, that should be sufficient to get an idea of
> the benefits of the FMIC.
>
> If anyone has suggestions or requests, let me know.  I haven't seen this
> done before on similar cars with similar mods at the same time & day.
>
> Rich

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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 16:07:53 -0400
From: "Mihai Raicu" <aa2345@wayne.edu>
Subject: Team3S: Anybody has a spare glove box?

I have a 95 VR4 and I need the glovebox?  I am removing some electronics the
previous owner had installed in this car (that cut through the glove box),
and would like to restore the stock look.

If anybody has a spare one laying around (from a crashed or stripped
vehicle), please let me know how much you want.  I just checked the CAPS
program for a 93 base stealth versus my 95 VR4 and noticed a discrepancy in
some parts.  I would assume any 2nd gen glove box would fit.

Thanks for any help.

- -MIKE-
95 Red VR4
in need of a glovebox

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Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 11:14:50 -0500
From: "Morice, Francis" <francis.morice@retek.com>
Subject: Team3S: GC setup

I am going to be going ahead a Ground Control spring setup and was wondering
what kind of spring rate I should go with.  It is mostly driven on the
weekends and I will be doing some more open track events in the future.  Any
input would be greatly appreciated.


Francis
'96 R/T TT
(SAVC-R BC, Spearco WI, Magnacore wires, NGK plugs .32, test pipe, Autometer
Boost Gauge, RPS TCC, HKS MegaFlow intake, freeflow precats, Goodridge Steel
Braided Brake Lines, Porterfield Cryo/Crossdrilled Rotors, R4S pads, 1G DSM
BOV)

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Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 11:38:23 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: GC setup

>I am going to be going ahead a Ground Control spring setup and was wondering
what kind of spring rate I should go with.  It is mostly driven on the
weekends and I will be doing some more open track events in the future.

I run 550 front, 315 rear. It's a bit stiff for the street, but works great
on the track. It doesn't cure all our high speed push, but it takes out a
lot of it. Lots of negative camber gets almost all the rest of it.

Decide now if you want to install camber plates. You won't be able to get
more than about -0.5 to -1 deg camber out of the stock alignment settings.
Most likely, it will align to stock specs, but no more.

To get -3 deg, you need camber plates. Alas, the camber plates remove about
3-4 from the top of the strut, because they replace the original top spring
landing. This drops the car to the ground, and -- with short springs -- you
have to adjust the GC suspension to maximum height to keep it from scraping
the pavement (see www.bazillionbooks.com, scroll down to race photos,
Heartland Park, Nov 2000 to see my car with short GC springs and camber
plates). To get it any higher, I need to buy longer springs at $90 per.

Discuss all this with GC BEFORE you order anything. If you think you may
want camber plates in the future, buy longer springs.
I don't know what happens if you install long springs without camber
plates. Maybe it just sits at stock height. Again, discuss it with GC. The
best solution, of course, is to buy the GC suspension and camber plates at
the same time.

Rich/old poop/94 VR4
GC, Eibachs, camber plates

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Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 01:04:36 +0200
From: "Roger Gerl \(RTEC\)" <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Team3S: She's alive ! but ...

Ok, since a long time I'm doing my upgrade project and run into several
problems with this stages.

Small background :
- - 1st gen heads, special ported, gasket matched, flow optimized and 3-angle
cut, custom made exhaust valveguides.... on a second gen block (1991 heads,
1993 Euro block and cams)
- - ported and flow enhanced intake manifold
- - flow optimized fuel rails (restriction inside removed)


Problem 1 : gas leak

Now, yesterday she runned the first time and I was shocked as she sounded
like a diesel :( Not only this, but also it started to smell like gas so I
shut her off. About a liter of gas dropped down to the ground ! After
investigation, I found out that three inejctors were wet = sealing problems
within the fuel rail. I was carefully enough not to damage the O-rings of
the 720cc RC but they definitely leaked. After removing the fuel rails again
I found the problem. The machine shop did a bad shop when trying (I must say
so) to put a 45° angle into the the injector port at the fuel rail. On at
least three ports they scratched the inside and a good sealing was not not
longer provided. O paid too less attention in this as I thought to trust the
shop... bad luck. I replaced the lines with the spare one I have around (the
original form my 2nd gen engine) and changed the O-rings from the injectors
with those from the stock injectors (the orange ones). No problems with gas
anymore !


Problem 2 : Oil leak

Unfortunately, when she heated up some smoke started to comming up the
intake plenum. Ok, I thought the 368s turbos start to heat up but the fume
becomes more and more noticeable. I finally found a small oil-lake on the
rear exhaust manifold aroudn a bolt. Of course the oil became very hot there
and caused the fume. I tracked down the cause for this and foudn a leaking
valve cover, exactly in the rear front edge of the left bank... great :(
Have to take off the whole intake stuff again (grrrr).


Problem 3 : tick-tick-tick (question)

Well it sounds ... horrible. I never heard that much ticking and it didn't
went away so far. Oil pressure is great, thicker race oil used to start but
the sound is more than annyoing. To my shame I don't know what lifters I
used. I checked my spare cyl. heads and the lifters where in, but the 2nd
gen or the 1st gen ones. Can someone describe me visual differences between
those two versions of the lifters ?


Problem 4 : timing belt

I'm almost positive that I skipped the belt on the crank one teeth during
installation. With the UDP (my car is not a daily driver anymore) it's kinda
hard to check this and it's a PITA to take off everything again just for
checking. Any advice of visually or electrical checking with an Unorthodox
Pulley is highly welcome :)


Problem 5 : intercooler pipe

Great, Murphy hit me again. I used one pipe from an old FMIC IC kit from GT
Alley times (don't ask) to connect the rear turbo outlet to the rest of the
IC stuff. Of course this pipe doesn't fit below the throttle cable as well
as it touches the front timing cover. So the pipe had to find its way above
that throttle cable and now ... the hood doesn't close anymore. Cool ...
great quality stuff, LOL. Ok, I will do my own stuff in this case so this is
the smallest of all problems.

At the end, I can say that it runs as it should and that I had to adjust the
ARC settings for the idle to keep it alive. It defintiely seems to feel a
change due to the new optimized intake/exhaust paths. But this can not be
said until the ECU fully relearend.

I'll keep you updated and would highly appreciate any input regardign the
lifter differencies between the gens as well as any tips regarding the
timing belt check with the accessories belt in place.

Thanks
Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch

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