team3s             Thursday, May 24 2001             Volume 01 : Number 501




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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 09:12:19 -0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Watkins Glen track report

Somewhat modifying what Rich said, I drive my Yoko 032R's in the rain all
the time.  I can't afford two sets of tires, and I can't afford the wear I
would put on my street tires.  I believe the Yoko's will outperform street
tires in the rain on the track, unless you have worn the Yoko's down to
slicks.  The one trick I will share is to soften the suspension when you
drive in the wet, i.e. switch from "Sport" to Tour" on the ECS or manually
soften front and rear.  This slows down the weight transfer and reduces the
tendency for the car to break away from lateral grip.

Chuck

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Merritt [SMTP:merritt@cedar-rapids.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 4:21 PM
> To: Schilberg, Darren; Team3S (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: Team3S: Watkins Glen track report
>
> >The big question now to everyone is what tire (or the two I have) do I
> use:
> >street tire or race tire?
> >Street tire is Pirelli P-Zero Asymmetrical 245/18
> >Race tire is Yokohama A-032R 255/17
>
> Take both. If the track dries, you'll want the Yokos for sure.
> If there is deep tread left on the Yokos, they'll be a good rain tire.
> But you really can't beat full-tread street tires in the rain unless you
> have a special-purpose racing rain tire.
>
> When you go out on the wet track, take a lap or two to get heat into the
> tires. Don't get lulled by the fabulous performance you enjoyed in the
> previous session, when you were lapping the entire field twice. If you try
> hammering it right away on cold tires, you'll go off into the grass (been
> there, done that).
>
> You will be amazed at how well the car handles in the wet, how well it
> sticks to the road (on warm tires, that is) and, perhaps more important,
> how well it STOPS. With warm tires, the Big Reds, ABS and our heavy front
> end, you should be able to slow down at an outrageous rate. Then, you'll
> be
> able to get the power down with the AWD. You will be gobbling up lesser
> cars 100 yards at a time, and overtaking them in a hurry. BE CAREFUL of
> the
> other cars. They will loop it, get sideways, slide off into the grass, and
> come back on the track right in your path. They will not know you are back
> there because you come up on them so fast. Run with your headlights on so
> they can see you. With our cars, the most dangerous thing about the rain
> is
> the traffic. And cold tires, of course.
>
> Rich/old poop/94 VR4/More Rain! More Rain!

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 09:17:37 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Watkins Glen track report

At 09:12 AM 5/23/01 -0500, Willis, Charles E. wrote:
>Somewhat modifying what Rich said, I drive my Yoko 032R's in the rain all
>the time.  I can't afford two sets of tires, and I can't afford the wear I
>would put on my street tires. 

You don't wear tires hardly at all in the rain.

I believe the Yoko's will outperform street
>tires in the rain on the track, unless you have worn the Yoko's down to
>slicks.

I think the Yokos are a superior rain tire when they are new, with deep
tread. Once the tread goes away, they are no better than slicks. But this
is why we need to have more people running open track together, so we can
compare notes. I'd love to run at the same track at the same time with
Chuck and Flash, so we can compare Kuhmos to Yokos to street tires under
all conditions.

 The one trick I will share is to soften the suspension when you
>drive in the wet, i.e. switch from "Sport" to Tour" on the ECS or manually
>soften front and rear.

Problem is, the system will switch back to "sport" as soon as it figures
out what you are doing. I never even bother to switch the suspension
settings any more, because it automatically goes into sport.

Rich

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 10:24:31 -0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Watkins Glen track report

I found switching to Tour made a huge difference the last time I dorve in
the rain.  Yes, it stiffens to Sport under some circumstances, but not on
the whole track.  I think driving style also affects this.  If you are doing
the track "rally-style" where you put the car into a slide on every turn,
you're right, maybe you'll always be in sport mode. Also the transition from
Tour to the two stiffer settings is not instantaneous - there must be some
slowing of weight transfer. The place where I recall a huge difference was a
slight turn which is downhill.  In Sport the rear end got loose in the rain
every lap.  In Tour it did not.

I look forward to drving on the same track,.too, but fully anticipate that I
won't be able to keep up with you and Flash!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Merritt [SMTP:merritt@cedar-rapids.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 9:18 AM
> To: Willis, Charles E.; Schilberg, Darren; Team3S (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: Team3S: Watkins Glen track report
>
> At 09:12 AM 5/23/01 -0500, Willis, Charles E. wrote:
> >Somewhat modifying what Rich said, I drive my Yoko 032R's in the rain all
> >the time.  I can't afford two sets of tires, and I can't afford the wear
> I
> >would put on my street tires. 
>
> You don't wear tires hardly at all in the rain.
>
> I believe the Yoko's will outperform street
> >tires in the rain on the track, unless you have worn the Yoko's down to
> >slicks.
>
> I think the Yokos are a superior rain tire when they are new, with deep
> tread. Once the tread goes away, they are no better than slicks. But this
> is why we need to have more people running open track together, so we can
> compare notes. I'd love to run at the same track at the same time with
> Chuck and Flash, so we can compare Kuhmos to Yokos to street tires under
> all conditions.
>
>  The one trick I will share is to soften the suspension when you
> >drive in the wet, i.e. switch from "Sport" to Tour" on the ECS or
> manually
> >soften front and rear.
>
> Problem is, the system will switch back to "sport" as soon as it figures
> out what you are doing. I never even bother to switch the suspension
> settings any more, because it automatically goes into sport.
>
> Rich

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 12:02:17 -0400
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Watkins Glen track report

Those of us who HAVE the ECS.

- --Flash!
1995 VR-4 with NO friggin' ECS

- -----Original Message-----
From: Willis, Charles E. [mailto:cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org]
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 10:12 AM
To: 'Merritt'; Schilberg, Darren; Team3S (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Team3S: Watkins Glen track report

Somewhat modifying what Rich said, I drive my Yoko 032R's in the rain all
the time.  I can't afford two sets of tires, and I can't afford the wear I
would put on my street tires.  I believe the Yoko's will outperform street
tires in the rain on the track, unless you have worn the Yoko's down to
slicks.  The one trick I will share is to soften the suspension when you
drive in the wet, i.e. switch from "Sport" to Tour" on the ECS or manually
soften front and rear.  This slows down the weight transfer and reduces the
tendency for the car to break away from lateral grip.

Chuck

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 12:03:56 -0400
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Watkins Glen track report

Sure, Rich.  Chuck and I were just discussing this.

I live in Pittsburgh.  He races in Texas.  That is a difference of 1,600
miles.

Maybe the US should come to you (in the middle of the US) and we could get
Geoff, Jim, Chuck, Brad, you, me, Ken, George, etc. and all have a shootout
at Heartland Park or something.

- --Flash!
dschilberg@pobox.com

3Si #577
1995 Black VR-4 w/ Big Reds, Autopower rollbar, Sparco Evo race seat,
Simpson 5-point harnesses, and a custom spark plug plate
http://www.team3s.com/FAQrollbar.htm

- -----Original Message-----
From: Merritt [mailto:merritt@cedar-rapids.net]
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 10:18 AM
To: Willis, Charles E.; Schilberg, Darren; Team3S (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Team3S: Watkins Glen track report

I think the Yokos are a superior rain tire when they are new, with deep
tread. Once the tread goes away, they are no better than slicks. But this
is why we need to have more people running open track together, so we can
compare notes. I'd love to run at the same track at the same time with
Chuck and Flash, so we can compare Kuhmos to Yokos to street tires under
all conditions.


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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 09:07:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Shane Thoms <shanethoms@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Watkins Glen track report

It was an option?????

Shane
1995 VR4 with ECS  :-)

> Those of us who HAVE the ECS.
>
> --Flash!
> 1995 VR-4 with NO friggin' ECS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Willis, Charles E.
> [mailto:cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 10:12 AM
> To: 'Merritt'; Schilberg, Darren; Team3S (E-mail)
> Subject: RE: Team3S: Watkins Glen track report
>
> Somewhat modifying what Rich said, I drive my Yoko
> 032R's in the rain all
> the time.  I can't afford two sets of tires, and I
> can't afford the wear I
> would put on my street tires.  I believe the Yoko's
> will outperform street
> tires in the rain on the track, unless you have worn
> the Yoko's down to
> slicks.  The one trick I will share is to soften the
> suspension when you
> drive in the wet, i.e. switch from "Sport" to Tour"
> on the ECS or manually
> soften front and rear.  This slows down the weight
> transfer and reduces the
> tendency for the car to break away from lateral
> grip.
>
> Chuck

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 11:06:24 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Watkins Glen track report

>I live in Pittsburgh.  He races in Texas.  That is a difference of 1,600
>miles.Maybe the US should come to you (in the middle of the US) and we
could get
>Geoff, Jim, Chuck, Brad, you, me, Ken, George, etc. and all have a shootout
>at Heartland Park or something.

For more central locations, there are Blackhawk Farms (Chicago area),
Putman Park (Southern Indiana) or St. Louis Intl.
Road America in Wisconsin is far away, but the absolute best track of all.

Rich

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 14:00:48 -0400
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Watkins Glen track report

Well, Shane, it was sort of an option.

I sent out an email long ago (might not be in the archives as I sent it
privately) asking people to respond with their year, mfg date, car, and
options.  It was interesting.

I think we all realized that as Dodge and Mitsubishi ran out of parts (for
example, ECS) they just left it off the cars from then on.  If this happened
in November 1994 then all cars built after November 1994 did not have ECS.

However, if I type my VIN into CAPS then the illustration it pulls up for
the exhaust (part number 13504) is "Actuator, Exhaust Muffler" so it thinks
I have an Active Exhaust system when I do not.

If anyone who did not respond before would like to do so now here is the
request.  It was mostly for the VR-4 models but respond anyway if you have a
Stealth or even a Spyder.  Thanks.

Name: Flash!
VIN: JA3AN74K9SY020664
Year: 1995
Model: 3000GT VR-4
Mfg date: 11/1994 (on side of driver's door)
Active Aero (y/n): Yes
ECS (y/n): No
Active Exhaust (y/n): No
Sunroof (y/n): Yes
Type of sunroof (manual/power): Power
Suspension mods: None

- --Flash!
dschilberg@pobox.com

3Si #577
1995 Black VR-4 w/ Active Aero but not other fun options like ECS and Active
Exhaust
Mods: Big Reds, Autopower rollbar, Sparco Evo race seat, Simpson 5-point
harnesses, and a custom spark plug plate
http://www.team3s.com/FAQrollbar.htm

- -----Original Message-----
From: Shane Thoms [mailto:shanethoms@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 12:07 PM
To: Schilberg, Darren; 'Willis, Charles E.'; 'Merritt'; Team3S (E-mail)
Subject: RE: Team3S: Watkins Glen track report


It was an option?????

Shane
1995 VR4 with ECS  :-)

> Those of us who HAVE the ECS.
>
> --Flash!
> 1995 VR-4 with NO friggin' ECS

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 14:41:21 -0700
From: "Gross, Erik" <erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: Team3S: OT(well, kinda): I got one!

On Monday at 10PM, I took delivery of a pristine 1995 (1st half) 3000GT VR-4
with 31,234 miles on the odometer.  I then got to drive it 150 miles home
from Oregon and managed to avoid getting a speeding ticket =)  Woohoo!  And
I wasn't even tired at work on Tuesday...

Option Code: A63
Exterior: X94B (Lamp Black)
Interior: 41D (Cream Leather)
Manual, Removable Sunroof
Active Aero
ECS, 4WS
Lexan Headlight Covers

Pictures:
http://pws.ihpc.net/erikgross/3000GTVR-4/CarPictures/VR-4.html

Toys that came with it:
- ---------------------------------
HKS Turbo Cat-back Exhaust with 3" Diameter Piping
K&N FIPK
GReddy ProfecA Boost Controller (currently set at 0.8bar)
HKS Sequential Blow-Off Valve
HKS Turbo Timer
GReddy Mechanical Boost Gauge
DEI Python 1000PC Alarm/Keyless Entry
Valentine1 Radar Detector with 12V hard wire
Mitsubishi Nose Mask
Mitsubishi Car Cover
'92-'95 Service Manuals


Just had to share =)

- --Erik
[with stupid AWD/TT-induced grin plastered on his face]


P.S. My base model is now up for sale if anyone is interested... pics, sale
site to come.

P.P.S.  For those of you looking for low-mileage, excellent condition
VR-4's/TT's without much luck, KEEP LOOKING - there are some out there, you
just gotta find them when someone decides to part with his baby.  This one
was posted for sale on Thursday, I drove 150mi to OR to inspect it on
Saturday (brought my jack, stands, and tools and spent about 5 hours), made
an offer, and took care of the finances on Monday.  It was "on the market"
for about 55 hours total.

- ------                                             ----------
Erik Gross                                         DuPont, WA
'95 Lamp Black 3000GT VR-4 (AWD, 4WS, ECS)          31,000 mi
   K&N FIPK, HKS Turbo Exhaust, GReddy ProfecA,
   HKS Sequential BOV, HKS Turbo Timer, GReddy Boost Gauge
   Castrol Syn5W50, BG SynchroShift(TX, TC), Mobil1 (R.Diff)
'95 Galaxy White Pearl 3000GT (NA, DOHC, 5MT)       78,000 mi
   Magnacor KV85, M1 10W30, K&N FIPK, Skippy PCV Catch Can,
   SZ50EP 245/45/ZR17, 17x8.5J 1GTT wheels
   http://pws.ihpc.net/erikgross/home.html
'94 Algae-Blue "fun to slide around corners" Corolla 75,000mi
- -------------------------------------------------------------


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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 15:50:59 -0700
From: "Andrew D. Woll" <awoll1@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: what a F___ rip off

Take photos, get appraisals from other experts in the field. Generate
witnesses who can testify on behalf of the lawyer you probably need to hire.

Andy


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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 18:45:33 -0400
From: "Michael Bulaon" <profilevr4@3000gtvr4.net>
Subject: Team3S: FORSALE: Stock 360cc injectors and stock Y-pipe.

I have the following up for auction on ebay but am willing to let either go
for $100.

Six stock 360cc injectors.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=591648075

Stock Y-pipe.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=591648243

The rubber seal is still good, it came off my car which was boosting 14.x
psi and never had a problem with it blowing off.

If you are interested but don't care too much for my selling price, try
bidding.

I will accept COD or paypal, buyer pays shipping.

If interested, please respond to me via PRIVATE EMAIL.

Regards,
Michael Bulaon



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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 15:54:27 -0700
From: "Gross, Erik" <erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: Team3S: Gear Oil Confusion

So do I understand correctly that GL-4 and GL-5 don't mix?  Most of the
stuff I've seen in the parts stores (Mobil 1, Valvoline, etc.)  is 75W90 and
says it conforms to GL-5.  The only stuff I saw that has GL-4 on it was some
cheapo conventional 80W90 that says it's GL3 and GL-4. 

Reason for the question:

Got a new VR-4 (see previous post) and noticed a slight layer of black slimy
stuff (dirt + oil I assume) near the transfer case connection to the prop.
shaft.  There's also some here and there on the crossmembers and near the
tranny.  The tranny shifts like butter and doesn't make any weird sounds, so
I'm not paranoid at this point.  However, before I drive it any more, I want
to check the fluid levels in the transfer case and transaxle and top them
off if necessary.  The plan is then to clean up the underside really well
and drive it a bit.  Then I'll lift it up again and look for where the oil
is coming from.  Then take appropriate action - probably replace a seal or
something (I hope).  Sound like a good plan?

Thus, to top off the fluid in the TC and TXL(BG SynchroShift in there now),
I need some oil :-)  The dealer is only open at inconvenient times and wants
$10 a quart for BG.  So I thought I'd try some stuff I can get at the parts
store to hold me over until I find/fix the leak.  At that point, I'll drain
everything and put in Redline fluids.

What fluid can I put in my transfer case and/or transaxle to use for a week
or two until I can find and fix the leak?  Maybe use some Mobil 1 10W30 if I
can't find any GL-4?  I'd like to use something I can get in a parts store
if it'll not cause any adverse effects on my car.

Thanks(as always)!
- --Erik

- ------                                             ----------
Erik Gross                                         DuPont, WA
'95 Lamp Black 3000GT VR-4 (AWD, 4WS, ECS)          31,000 mi
   K&N FIPK, HKS Turbo Exhaust, GReddy ProfecA,
   HKS Sequential BOV, HKS Turbo Timer, GReddy Boost Gauge
   Castrol Syn5W50, BG SynchroShift(TX, TC), Mobil1 (R.Diff)
'95 Galaxy White Pearl 3000GT (NA, DOHC, 5MT)       78,000 mi
   Magnacor KV85, M1 10W30, K&N FIPK, Skippy PCV Catch Can,
   SZ50EP 245/45/ZR17, 17x8.5J 1GTT wheels
   http://pws.ihpc.net/erikgross/home.html
'94 Algae-Blue "fun to slide around corners" Corolla 75,000mi

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 17:08:02 -0700
From: Richard <radanc@home.com>
Subject: Team3S: Wheels

Hi all,

Anyone with beefy front calipers have some suggestions for good wheels
that have lots of room to accomodate large calipers. I purchased some
forgelines at the advice of KVR, but they never deal with our cars. The
result is my car is in the shop until I get new wheels that fit. The
forgelines still leave 1/2" necessary in the wheel. I want sturdy wheels
that won't dent easy. The 2 foregelines are T6 aluminum for about $1400
for the pair. What have you used that will fit our cars (I have a 92 TT)
with large calipers. I know the hub is larger on the 2nd gen car as one
difference for sure.

Rich
92 Stealth TT

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 20:27:13 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Wheels

I use Milli Miglias, but I see that Tire Rack doesn't carry them any more.
I guess they are available elsewhere.
You can see them on my car at www.bazillionbooks.com. Scroll down to racing
photos, click on Heartland Park July 2000.
If your current wheels don't quite fit, try a set of 1/2 in. spacers. That
moves the wheel 1/2 in. away from the caliper.

Rich/old poop/94 VR4/Big Reds

>Anyone with beefy front calipers have some suggestions for good wheels
>that have lots of room to accomodate large calipers.

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Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 21:47:48 -0700
From: "stealthdevil" <stealthdevil@netzero.net>
Subject: Team3S: HeadLamp Conversions?

I found a site that had allowed the sealed lamps on our 91-93 cars to be
converted to allow individual bulbs such as the ones on the newer models.  I
have been unable to locate it since.  Does anybody know where these
conversions can be found?

 Gabe

'92 Black Stealth TT
- -K&N Air Charger

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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 00:13:42 -0500
From: kalla@tripoint.org
Subject: Team3S: knock sensor broken?

I recieved the pocket logger this afternoon. I connected it to my vr-4
and watched the knock an timing advance as I drove it to work and
back after lunch. My boost controller was set to peak around
1.0 kg/cm2. There was no trace of knock. On the way home I
figured what the hey and increased the gain on the blitz so the
boost would peak around 1.1 kg/cm2. Still no knock on the logger.
This afternoon it was about 68-70 degrees outside, and I'm running
93 octane amoco gas.d

Tonight I went out to a this 1/2 mile road on the arsenal and did a
couple of pulls from a standstill through the top of third gear and
logged these. Here is the datalog from the second run :

http://www.tripoint.org/run2.gif   (i like matlab, heh)

Sorry, I forgot to log the RPMs (I had a friend in the car). around 5
seconds is where I was in 1st gear, 10 seconds I was in second,
and 15-20 seconds I was in third. I didn't launch the car or
anything, I just got on it from a standstill. In 2nd gear the boost
peaked around 1.15 kg/cm2 and the same in 3rd gear. The ambient
temperature was about 60 degrees tonight when I did the run.

My car still has the stock turbos, stock injectors and fuel pump. I
have the fipk intake, gutted precats and a test pipe on it right now. I
am using the blitz dsbc. From my reading the list for a while, I find
it a little suspect that I was able to boost up to 16.5 psi without any
knock on the stock injectors and fuel pump. Is it possible that the
knock sensor is damaged? Or is my car just running REALLY
well? :-)  The car pulled extremely hard at 1.15 kg.cm2, it was
really amazing.

Walton C. Gibson
kalla@tripoint.org

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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 03:43:54 -0400
From: "Mike Knapp" <burnmacs@home.com>
Subject: Team3S: FS: '96 VR-4

I have a 1996 Caracas Red on Tan VR-4 in absolute mint condition. It has 78K
miles on it but it has been very well cared for and it's completely up to
date on it's service (60K service done, new tranny fluid, new water pump,
oil changed every 3K). I am asking $17,900 to start. This car has been well
cared for and I have to sell it so I can get a sedan. Unfortunatly I have to
sell it, I've been thinking about it for the past few months and finally
decided to actually do it. I am located in Sarasota, FL and pics are
available at http://www.members.home.com/mitsu-3000gt/ feel free to ask me
any questions.

Mike Knapp

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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 07:30:40 -0400
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Wheels

Rich,

   I am using Rich's ex-racing wheels (1999 SL 17" wheels) and they are
perfect.  I know they are beefy enough for the car (and only about 22# for
18x8.5 size).  I saw lots of wheels at the East Coast Gathering but don't
know how many of the pretty designs would be able to handle 2 tons of car
leaning on the outside left corner in a hard right-hand turn.

- --Flash!
dschilberg@pobox.com

3Si #577
1995 Black VR-4 w/ Big Reds, Autopower rollbar, Sparco Evo race seat,
Simpson 5-point harnesses, and a custom spark plug plate
http://www.team3s.com/FAQrollbar.htm

- -----Original Message-----
From: Merritt [mailto:merritt@cedar-rapids.net]
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 9:27 PM

I use Milli Miglias, but I see that Tire Rack doesn't carry them any more.
I guess they are available elsewhere.
You can see them on my car at www.bazillionbooks.com. Scroll down to racing
photos, click on Heartland Park July 2000.
If your current wheels don't quite fit, try a set of 1/2 in. spacers. That
moves the wheel 1/2 in. away from the caliper.

Rich/old poop/94 VR4/Big Reds

>Anyone with beefy front calipers have some suggestions for good wheels
>that have lots of room to accomodate large calipers.


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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 08:21:28 -0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Gear Oil Confusion

not 10W30 - the viscosity is way too low.  Any GL-4 that is around 75W90
would work for topping off.  There should be some cheap gear oil at
O'Reilly's.  I love RedLine stuff - I use MT90 in the tranny and transfer
case and 75W90 in the rear axle.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gross, Erik [SMTP:erik.gross@intel.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 5:54 PM
> To: Team3S List (E-mail)
> Subject: Team3S: Gear Oil Confusion
>
>
> So do I understand correctly that GL-4 and GL-5 don't mix?  Most of the
> stuff I've seen in the parts stores (Mobil 1, Valvoline, etc.)  is 75W90
> and
> says it conforms to GL-5.  The only stuff I saw that has GL-4 on it was
> some
> cheapo conventional 80W90 that says it's GL3 and GL-4. 
>
> Reason for the question:
>
> Got a new VR-4 (see previous post) and noticed a slight layer of black
> slimy
> stuff (dirt + oil I assume) near the transfer case connection to the prop.
> shaft.  There's also some here and there on the crossmembers and near the
> tranny.  The tranny shifts like butter and doesn't make any weird sounds,
> so
> I'm not paranoid at this point.  However, before I drive it any more, I
> want
> to check the fluid levels in the transfer case and transaxle and top them
> off if necessary.  The plan is then to clean up the underside really well
> and drive it a bit.  Then I'll lift it up again and look for where the oil
> is coming from.  Then take appropriate action - probably replace a seal or
> something (I hope).  Sound like a good plan?
>
> Thus, to top off the fluid in the TC and TXL(BG SynchroShift in there
> now),
> I need some oil :-)  The dealer is only open at inconvenient times and
> wants
> $10 a quart for BG.  So I thought I'd try some stuff I can get at the
> parts
> store to hold me over until I find/fix the leak.  At that point, I'll
> drain
> everything and put in Redline fluids.
>
> What fluid can I put in my transfer case and/or transaxle to use for a
> week
> or two until I can find and fix the leak?  Maybe use some Mobil 1 10W30 if
> I
> can't find any GL-4?  I'd like to use something I can get in a parts store
> if it'll not cause any adverse effects on my car.
>
> Thanks(as always)!
> --Erik
>
> ------                                             ----------
> Erik Gross                                         DuPont, WA
> '95 Lamp Black 3000GT VR-4 (AWD, 4WS, ECS)          31,000 mi
>    K&N FIPK, HKS Turbo Exhaust, GReddy ProfecA,
>    HKS Sequential BOV, HKS Turbo Timer, GReddy Boost Gauge
>    Castrol Syn5W50, BG SynchroShift(TX, TC), Mobil1 (R.Diff)
> '95 Galaxy White Pearl 3000GT (NA, DOHC, 5MT)       78,000 mi
>    Magnacor KV85, M1 10W30, K&N FIPK, Skippy PCV Catch Can,
>    SZ50EP 245/45/ZR17, 17x8.5J 1GTT wheels
>    http://pws.ihpc.net/erikgross/home.html
> '94 Algae-Blue "fun to slide around corners" Corolla 75,000mi

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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 06:25:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Lucius <stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: HeadLamp Conversions?

I used the kit from http://www.autooptiks.com/ (also listed on the
HUGE Links page at my web site and my Mods page). It is easy to
install and came complete with all required parts (bulbs are extra;
also talk to the sales staff their about your driving habits and the
best bulb "color" to use). Do one at a time so the other can be used
for reference. Phil has instructions for the conversion at his web
site.

http://www.msu.edu/user/nguyenn/Stealth/autopal.htm

I have heard of other kits. Search the Team3S archives and the 3SI
message board for posts.

Jeff Lucius, www.stealth316.com

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "stealthdevil" <stealthdevil@netzero.net>
To: <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 10:47 PM
Subject: Team3S: HeadLamp Conversions?

I found a site that had allowed the sealed lamps on our 91-93 cars to
be converted to allow individual bulbs such as the ones on the newer
models.  I have been unable to locate it since.  Does anybody know
where these conversions can be found?

 Gabe

'92 Black Stealth TT
- -K&N Air Charger

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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 06:35:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Lucius <stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: knock sensor broken?

Walt,

The log looks fine. Consider yourself one of the lucky ones. Some
engines are less detonation prone than others. If the knock sensor
was bad the ECU should set a fault code (plus the check engine
light). Keep checking though, especially when it hits 90ºF or more
outside. I often have no knock either at 16 psi of boost until it
gets very hot outside.

Now that we are getting more users of loggers, maybe someone would
like to setup a repository of logs and support info (conditions,
mods, etc.) for 3S cars? Any volunteers?

Jeff Lucius, www.stealth316.com

- ----- Original Message -----
From: <kalla@tripoint.org>
To: <team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2001 11:13 PM
Subject: Team3S: knock sensor broken?

<snip>
Tonight I went out to a this 1/2 mile road on the arsenal and did a
couple of pulls from a standstill through the top of third gear and
logged these. Here is the datalog from the second run :

http://www.tripoint.org/run2.gif
<snip>

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Date: Thu, 24 May 2001 07:00:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Lucius <stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Gear Oil Confusion

Actually, 30W oil is only slightly less viscous than the gear oil we
use. Gear oil viscosity is measured at a lower temperature than motor
oil viscosity, so 40W motor oil is about the same as 95W gear oil,
viscosity wise. In fact, Jim Rowe at Metric Mechanic has recommended
Amsoil 10W-40 fully synthetic (motor oil) for use in our transaxle
(only). However, motor oil generally does not have the correct
constituents for use in a gear box with synchronizers.

For more gear and motor oil info, I have reproduced the Red Line
technical brochures on their products on the Tech Page at my web
site.

http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius/1-tech.htm

Jeff Lucius, www.stealth316.com

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
To: "'Gross, Erik'" <erik.gross@intel.com>; "Team3S List (E-mail)"
<team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 7:21 AM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Gear Oil Confusion
<snip>
not 10W30 - the viscosity is way too low
<snip>

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