team3s             Wednesday, May 2 2001             Volume 01 : Number 482




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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 16:08:47 -0700
From: "Andrew D. Woll" <awoll1@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Interior panel removal instructions

Your question peaked my interest so I took a look at Whitneys website. There
are several quality levels of insuation they offer and all of them look
pretty good. None of them, however, are particularly inexpensive.

http://jcwhitney.com/SearchContainer.jhtml;$sessionid$G12EL1QAAAIPPWBBLJTSFE
4YEFNGMIV0?_requestid=43466

Andy
93 FSRed TT AWD


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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 17:54:07 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Team3S: Spacers

Finally got my wheel spacers, and they are going in next week, along with
longer wheel studs. Got them from carparts.com, using the $25 off coupon
for new orders, so they cost right around $100, complete with 10 longer studs.

Having replaced a few broken wheel studs (before I learned about anti-sieze
compound), I know that the process of replacing wheel studs is not
particularly difficult, but it does involve a good bit of prying things
apart on the wheel hub, using big prybars and pickle forks. It's not
something I want to tackle myself, so the boys at Denny's Muffler will be
replacing the studs. Besides, what they can do in an hour with the proper
tools would take me all day.

My question is:  Is there a bushing, joint or component that we oughta
replace after all this prying?  I have time to order parts if you think I
should replace anything while we are in there.

BTW, I'll take photos during the procedure.

Rich/old poop/94 VR4

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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 18:07:03 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Team3S: Undertray

I am getting ready to build a sheet metal undertray to protect the
intercoolers from road crud damage. I took off the plastic undertray
because it was getting battered and torn because my car is so low, and I
removed the front air dam, motor and mechanism.

Has anyone fabbed up an undertray?
Got any advice?

I am thinking about two possibilities:

1. Build a chin spoiler or splitter that extends straight out about 3-4
inches, enough to slice off people's ankles that are walking by. This would
give me considerable downforce. It would also help to direct air directly
into the radiator opening.

2. Build a flexible air dam, using hard rubber and spring hinges, just like
the Z06 Corvette. It would mount onto the radiator crossmember, extend all
the way across in two or three sections, and point straight down 2-3
inches. If it hits anything, it would fold under, then spring back.

Any ideas on this?  I suspect that I do not want to do both a chin spoiler
and an air dam. Or do I?

I am going to see the fab guy tomorrow at lunch to discuss all this, so any
inputs tonight or tomorrow morning would be greatly appreciated.
 
Rich/old poop/94 VR4

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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 16:25:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@speedracer.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Spacers

What are you prying on..that taking a corner at 80mph on race rubber
doesnt apply more pressyre to already? *grin*

On Tue, 1 May 2001, Merritt wrote:

> Finally got my wheel spacers, and they are going in next week, along with
> longer wheel studs. Got them from carparts.com, using the $25 off coupon
> for new orders, so they cost right around $100, complete with 10 longer studs.
>
> Having replaced a few broken wheel studs (before I learned about anti-sieze
> compound), I know that the process of replacing wheel studs is not
> particularly difficult, but it does involve a good bit of prying things
> apart on the wheel hub, using big prybars and pickle forks. It's not
> something I want to tackle myself, so the boys at Denny's Muffler will be
> replacing the studs. Besides, what they can do in an hour with the proper
> tools would take me all day.
>
> My question is:  Is there a bushing, joint or component that we oughta
> replace after all this prying?  I have time to order parts if you think I
> should replace anything while we are in there.
>
> BTW, I'll take photos during the procedure.
>
> Rich/old poop/94 VR4
- ---
Geoff Mohler <gemohler@speedtoys.com
California, USA
http://www.speedtoys.com


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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:08:44 -0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Undertray

I like the idea of a splitter but methinks some real expertise is required to get
it right.

Overheat issue --- I had my car at Willow Springs over the weekend and
did not notice any perceptible increase in temperature ---- track side
temps were in the mid 80's. My question is ---- do you have all of the
undertrays in place in front of the radiator. My 93 Stealth has an opening
just under the front bumper cover that directs air into the radiator from the
bottom as well as the front of the car.

        Jim Berry
=====================================================
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>

> I am getting ready to build a sheet metal undertray to protect the
> intercoolers from road crud damage. I took off the plastic undertray
> because it was getting battered and torn because my car is so low, and I
> removed the front air dam, motor and mechanism.

> 1. Build a chin spoiler or splitter that extends straight out about 3-4
> inches, enough to slice off people's ankles that are walking by. This would
> give me considerable downforce. It would also help to direct air directly
> into the radiator opening.

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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 18:23:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@speedracer.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Undertray

No..if he were going for pure aerodynamics..experience would be needed.

But since hes just looking to split for the sake of turbulence..should be
hard at all.

If I were to do it, Id make the lip out in front sheet metal, but rolled
on that outside edge.  Could look cool.

On Tue, 1 May 2001, Jim Berry wrote:

> I like the idea of a splitter but methinks some real expertise is required to get
> it right.
>
> Overheat issue --- I had my car at Willow Springs over the weekend and
> did not notice any perceptible increase in temperature ---- track side
> temps were in the mid 80's. My question is ---- do you have all of the
> undertrays in place in front of the radiator. My 93 Stealth has an opening
> just under the front bumper cover that directs air into the radiator from the
> bottom as well as the front of the car.
>
>         Jim Berry
> =====================================================
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
>
> > I am getting ready to build a sheet metal undertray to protect the
> > intercoolers from road crud damage. I took off the plastic undertray
> > because it was getting battered and torn because my car is so low, and I
> > removed the front air dam, motor and mechanism.
>
> > 1. Build a chin spoiler or splitter that extends straight out about 3-4
> > inches, enough to slice off people's ankles that are walking by. This would
> > give me considerable downforce. It would also help to direct air directly
> > into the radiator opening.

- ---
Geoff Mohler <gemohler@speedtoys.com
California, USA
http://www.speedtoys.com


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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 16:27:31 -0600
From: Desert Fox <bigfoot@simmgene.com>
Subject: Team3S: Wheels

I can't remember where I got this link but has anybody seen this guys setup?

<http://www.geocities.com/Amkreadgto/Hybrid.html>

Particularly, I'm wondering about the wheels and tire sizes. He lists 18X8.5
& 18X9.5 Super Advan SA3R rims (with 245/40ZR & 275/35ZR tires).

I love the black rims but could do without the red accent. Anybody familiar
with these? Is it OK for our cars to run these two different tire sizes?
When I run these two sizes through the tire calculator, they are very close
but not exact.

If this is a list member's car, please email me off list as I have some
other questions not so technically related.

- --
Paul/.
95 black 3000GT VR-4
98 VFR800F, TBR aluminum hi exit
formerly reasonable and prudent


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Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 22:20:50 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Undertray

>If I were to do it, Id make the lip out in front sheet metal, but rolled
>on that outside edge.  Could look cool.
>
The fabricator suggested the rolled edge too.

Rich

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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 21:28:15 -0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Team3S: race day tip

An equipment saving tip I picked up from the some Viper drivers
while at Willow Springs ---- to protect the front of their cars while
driving at high speeds at open track events they cover the portions
of the car at risk with clear vinyl shelf covering. The sticky back shelf
liner gets a little tattered over the course of the weekind but I was
told it peels off eaisly and cleans up with soap and water. Worth a
try if you want to protect the front of your car from rock damage.
It's probably too late for my car --- the front bumper cover is pretty
beat up, but, when I get it repainted I'll keep it in mind.

I'd try it out on a small area, leave it on for a few days and then
remove it. They said the stuff sold at almost any hardware store
is all that's needed.

        Jim Berry



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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 21:42:27 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@speedracer.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Team3S: Re: race day tip

www.invinca-shield.com

Tough as nails.

On Tue, 1 May 2001, Jim Berry wrote:

> An equipment saving tip I picked up from the some Viper drivers
> while at Willow Springs ---- to protect the front of their cars while
> driving at high speeds at open track events they cover the portions
> of the car at risk with clear vinyl shelf covering. The sticky back shelf
> liner gets a little tattered over the course of the weekind but I was
> told it peels off eaisly and cleans up with soap and water. Worth a
> try if you want to protect the front of your car from rock damage.
> It's probably too late for my car --- the front bumper cover is pretty
> beat up, but, when I get it repainted I'll keep it in mind.
>
> I'd try it out on a small area, leave it on for a few days and then
> remove it. They said the stuff sold at almost any hardware store
> is all that's needed.
>
>         Jim Berry

- ---
Geoff Mohler <gemohler@speedtoys.com
California, USA
http://www.speedtoys.com


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Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 00:36:04 -0400
From: Mark Hindelang <hindelan@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Undertray

are you saying that the piece of plastic lip that wraps around the front
just under the bumper is important
for the radiator.??   the thing that you scrape all tthe time when you
pull in too close and you brush it on the parking concrete slabs??  mine
was cracked and i removed the entire thing.. is that a bad thing?

is my radiator hurting because of this?


Jim Berry wrote:
>
> I like the idea of a splitter but methinks some real expertise is required to get
> it right.
>
> Overheat issue --- I had my car at Willow Springs over the weekend and
> did not notice any perceptible increase in temperature ---- track side
> temps were in the mid 80's. My question is ---- do you have all of the
> undertrays in place in front of the radiator. My 93 Stealth has an opening
> just under the front bumper cover that directs air into the radiator from the
> bottom as well as the front of the car.
>
>         Jim Berry
> =====================================================
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
>
> > I am getting ready to build a sheet metal undertray to protect the
> > intercoolers from road crud damage. I took off the plastic undertray
> > because it was getting battered and torn because my car is so low, and I
> > removed the front air dam, motor and mechanism.
>
> > 1. Build a chin spoiler or splitter that extends straight out about 3-4
> > inches, enough to slice off people's ankles that are walking by. This would
> > give me considerable downforce. It would also help to direct air directly
> > into the radiator opening.

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Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 05:05:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Christian <jczoom_619@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: race day tip

Hi Jim,

I just wear my bra.  Never had a problem with it.

When I got out of the gravel pit on turn 12 Road
America, I did have to refasten the lower left
section.

Some of the Porsche guys do have a clear substance
professionally applied.  May drivers do cover their
exposed headlights with duct tape.  You can create a
real mean looking Porsche with red and yellow duct
tape especially when it's in my mirrors about 2" from
my bumper.

Be of good cheer,
John

 
- --- Jim Berry <fastmax@home.com> wrote:
> An equipment saving tip I picked up from the some
> Viper drivers
> while at Willow Springs ---- to protect the front of
> their cars while
> driving at high speeds at open track events they
> cover the portions
> of the car at risk with clear vinyl shelf covering.
> The sticky back shelf
> liner gets a little tattered over the course of the
> weekind but I was
> told it peels off eaisly and cleans up with soap and
> water. Worth a
> try if you want to protect the front of your car
> from rock damage.
> It's probably too late for my car --- the front
> bumper cover is pretty
> beat up, but, when I get it repainted I'll keep it
> in mind.
>
> I'd try it out on a small area, leave it on for a
> few days and then
> remove it. They said the stuff sold at almost any
> hardware store
> is all that's needed.
>
>         Jim Berry

=====
Please respond to jczoom@iname.com
'93 TT with Porsche brakes and Supra TT rotors
12.4@109MPH  5/97 almost stock
http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/flats/4538

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Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 09:37:24 -0400
From: Mark Hindelang <hindelan@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: Team3S: Tuning Apexi AFC

Good morning..

With the list of mods I have shown below,
does anyone have any tips to help guide me in the
right direction in tuning my AFC..  I thought
i heard something about tuning a few extra hp
out of it due to having a bov, and higher boost.
At the moment, the AFC is completely in default mode.

Mark
1992 Green Stealth

Apexi Indigo AVCR (@15psi)
Apexi Indigo AFC
K&N Filter
Magnecore Wires
HKS Super Sequential Blow Off Valve
3" Metal Y-Pipe
RSR 2" spring lowering application
Cusco Rear Strut Bar
Greddy Turbo Timer
Full ATR Exhaust - ATR Downpipe, Stright Test Pipe (no cat) , Full Cat
back dual tips.
Hose Techniques - Engine Bay Super White Hose Dress up
1 Bad Ass Attitude

(Soon : New Paint Job Restoration, 3000gt Body Parts / Hybrid , Supra
Fuel Pump )

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Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 09:45:52 EDT
From: ThorHolth@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Gauge Problems

I have heard that the oil pressure gauge and turbo gauges on our cars can be
wildly inaccurate at times.  I was planning to pull apart my dashboard to fix
a few things, so I figure it may be time to upgrade the gauges.  Does anybody
know if the gauges are a complete one-piece set, or can I replace them
individually? Also, has anyone replaced the stock gauges with aftermarket
sets, if so, what type.  I was thinking of going Cyberdyne digital for temp
and oil pressure, with a 180-270 sweep for the manifold pressure.

Thanks for any advice.



Thor Holth (1991 R/T Turbo - 5 weeks and counting!)

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Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 07:10:07 -0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: race day tip

- ----- Original Message -----
From: John Christian <jczoom_619@yahoo.com>

> Hi Jim,
>
> I just wear my bra.  Never had a problem with it.
>
> When I got out of the gravel pit on turn 12 Road
> America, I did have to refasten the lower left
> section.

My concern with the bra is getting something under it --- your
foray into the gravel pit would seem a good way to get a
boulder or two under it.

And what, prey tell, were you doing in a gravel pit anyway?
I suppose someone oiled the track in front of you.

    Jim Berry

        Jim Berry


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Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 07:32:27 -0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Team3S: Re: race day tip

Sounds like the stuff John Christian was talking about ---- probably
pricey but it's a full time solution. The shelf covering on the other hand
is definitely cheap and you can pick it up on the way to the track and
apply it in 5 minuets. It is of course, nowhere near as nice cosmetically.
The shelf covering looks, and is, temporary ---- if looking cool is your
goal then it's not for you. If on the other hand, you're a cheap pragmatist
like me then a nice paisley print shelf paper is all that's required.

        Jim Berry
====================================================

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@speedracer.speedtoys.com>
To: Jim Berry <fastmax@home.com>

> www.invinca-shield.com
>
> Tough as nails.
>
> On Tue, 1 May 2001, Jim Berry wrote:
>
> > An equipment saving tip I picked up from the some Viper drivers
> > while at Willow Springs ---- to protect the front of their cars while
> > driving at high speeds at open track events they cover the portions
> > of the car at risk with clear vinyl shelf covering.


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Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 07:47:58 -0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Undertray

On my 93 TT without active aero, there is an opening just in front of the
small air dam under the car that directs air into the radiator from the
bottom. It has a deflector that directs air to the bottom half of the radiator.

If you're not having a cooling problem it's probably not an issue --- I have
no way to judge it's effectiveness but manufactures don't add parts to the
car because their bored, someone thought it necessary.

        Jim Berry
=======================================================
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Hindelang <hindelan@pilot.msu.edu>

> are you saying that the piece of plastic lip that wraps around the front
> just under the bumper is important
> for the radiator.??   the thing that you scrape all tthe time when you
> pull in too close and you brush it on the parking concrete slabs??  mine
> was cracked and i removed the entire thing.. is that a bad thing?
>
> is my radiator hurting because of this?
>
>
> Jim Berry wrote:
> >
> > Overheat issue > > undertrays in place in front of the radiator.
      My 93 Stealth has an opening
> > just under the front bumper cover that directs air into the radiator from the
> > bottom as well as the front of the car.
> >
> >         Jim Berry



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Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 15:46:41 +0200
From: Roger Gerl <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Tuning Apexi AFC

>Good morning..

Morning ???? It's 4PM here ;-)

>With the list of mods I have shown below,
>does anyone have any tips to help guide me in the
>right direction in tuning my AFC..  I thought
>i heard something about tuning a few extra hp
>out of it due to having a bov, and higher boost.

No use for the AFC at all. You have stock injectors and if you increase
fuel you will run into fuel cut (as the value jumps out the table) When you
lower the amount of fuel you run into danger for knock and retarded timing.
Furthermore, small changes are corrected by the ECU within several miles.
The AFC is not of use without 440cc injectors.

Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch


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Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 10:15:16 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Team3S: Spacer source

For those of you who inquired privately (Scott and Mikael, so far) and
anyone else who wants to know, I got my spacers from www.carparts.com.
They are buried on page 7 of 16 in the H&R vendor pages.  With the $30 off
discount, it was $84 a set.  (The assholes at nascarparts were going to
charge me $132!!)  The part number is 30656715.
Mikael: I'm not sure what the spacing is. 15mm or about a half-inch, I
guess.  It's all they have, anyway.,

Rich


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Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 10:35:04 -0500
From: "Curt Gendron" <curt_gendron@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Spacer source

Hey Rich,

No plug for you buddy Curt????  Rich used my $30 off $100 coupon at:
http://www.mn3s.org/car-parts.html  There is also a 5mm spacer that H&R
sells too for our car. (10656715)  You can search for either part number on
the search feature on the CarParts website.

later,
Curt
http://www.mn3s.org

>From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
>To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
>Subject: Team3S: Spacer source
>Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 10:15:16 -0500
>
>For those of you who inquired privately (Scott and Mikael, so far) and
>anyone else who wants to know, I got my spacers from www.carparts.com.
>They are buried on page 7 of 16 in the H&R vendor pages.  With the $30 off
>discount, it was $84 a set.  (The assholes at nascarparts were going to
>charge me $132!!)  The part number is 30656715.
>Mikael: I'm not sure what the spacing is. 15mm or about a half-inch, I
>guess.  It's all they have, anyway.,
>
>Rich

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Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 11:47:08 -0400
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: race day tip

I run a bra on mine (car that is) and held on just fine in the gravel pit.
Nobody oiled the track for me but my mind was trying to ask something just
the time when my feet were supposed to be operating the brakes.  Not quite
coordinated yet to do two things at once (stop, chew gum, stop chewing,
resume walking).

No rocks were under the bra as it is held on quite nicely (two clips in the
front of the engine bay, two hooks on either side of the sides of the engine
bay, three clips down each side, and about 6 clips across the bottom).  Had
some rocks up in the wheels and calipers though and that is why I got the
black flag so that I wouldn't distribute these rocks all over the track.

- --Flash!
dschilberg@pobox.com

3Si #577
1995 Black VR-4 w/ Big Reds, Autopower rollbar, Sparco Evo race seat,
Simpson 5-point harnesses, and a custom spark plug plate
http://www.team3s.com/FAQrollbar.htm


- -----Original Message-----
From: Jim Berry [mailto:fastmax@home.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 10:10 AM
To: JCZooM@iname.com; team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Cc: Tim; kurt zobel; Jose Soriano; George Kuo; damon Rachell; Bruce;
Geoff Mohler
Subject: Re: Team3S: race day tip

My concern with the bra is getting something under it --- your
foray into the gravel pit would seem a good way to get a
boulder or two under it.

And what, prey tell, were you doing in a gravel pit anyway?
I suppose someone oiled the track in front of you.


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Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 10:58:07 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Spacer source

Was that YOUR $30 off coupon? It looked like something they offered to all
new accounts. Sorry pal, I woulda been happy to give you a plug.

Rich

At 10:35 AM 5/2/01 -0500, Curt Gendron wrote:
>Hey Rich,
>
>No plug for you buddy Curt????  Rich used my $30 off $100 coupon at:
>http://www.mn3s.org/car-parts.html  There is also a 5mm spacer that H&R
>sells too for our car. (10656715)  You can search for either part number on
>the search feature on the CarParts website.
>
>later,
>Curt
>http://www.mn3s.org
>
>>From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
>>To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
>>Subject: Team3S: Spacer source
>>Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 10:15:16 -0500
>>
>>For those of you who inquired privately (Scott and Mikael, so far) and
>>anyone else who wants to know, I got my spacers from www.carparts.com.
>>They are buried on page 7 of 16 in the H&R vendor pages.  With the $30 off
>>discount, it was $84 a set.  (The assholes at nascarparts were going to
>>charge me $132!!)  The part number is 30656715.
>>Mikael: I'm not sure what the spacing is. 15mm or about a half-inch, I
>>guess.  It's all they have, anyway.,
>>
>>Rich

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Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 09:40:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@speedracer.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Team3S: RE: race day tip

If you get a rock that big..it wont much matter on the windscreen.

I dont think youd want anything on the glass anyway..

On Wed, 2 May 2001, Zobel, Kurt wrote:

> Hey, this might work on the window too, just in case some rocks get thrown up.
> I have not found (haven't looked) for tear off sheets for windows.
>
> Kurt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Berry [mailto:fastmax@home.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2001 9:28 PM
> To: team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
> Cc: Tim; Zobel, Kurt; Jose Soriano; Jim Berry; George Kuo; damon
> Rachell; Bruce; Geoff Mohler
> Subject: race day tip
>
>
> An equipment saving tip I picked up from the some Viper drivers
> while at Willow Springs ---- to protect the front of their cars while
> driving at high speeds at open track events they cover the portions
> of the car at risk with clear vinyl shelf covering. The sticky back shelf
> liner gets a little tattered over the course of the weekind but I was
> told it peels off eaisly and cleans up with soap and water. Worth a
> try if you want to protect the front of your car from rock damage.
> It's probably too late for my car --- the front bumper cover is pretty
> beat up, but, when I get it repainted I'll keep it in mind.
>
> I'd try it out on a small area, leave it on for a few days and then
> remove it. They said the stuff sold at almost any hardware store
> is all that's needed.
>
>         Jim Berry

- ---
Geoff Mohler <gemohler@speedtoys.com
California, USA
http://www.speedtoys.com


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Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 09:02:51 +0200
From: "Mikael Kenson" <vr4@bahnhof.se>
Subject: Team3S: Cam shafts needed

Hi,

I need to buy a set of used cam shafts for my 3000GT VR-4 93.

Are the shafts from all years the same?

Sellers please contact me privately on vr4@bahnhof.se

Regards,

Mikael Kenson http://www.3000gt.nu

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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 11:16:57 +0200
From: "Mikael Kenson" <vr4@bahnhof.se>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Best forged pistons?

Here's a text I have saved this answer regarding the ROSS pistons. I can't remember who wrote this. BTW I use Ross pistons in my car together with Pauter rods.
/Mikael Kenson http://www.3000gt.nu
- --------------------------
ROSS  custom 3000GT pistons. These pistons were made using the latest advances in piston technology. This is NOT a 3000 stock piston casting or copy, it is a proprietary casting that looks oval when viewed. The ring pack has been moved down to keep the rings away from the combustion chamber,since the rings have been moved down toward the pin, oil support rails are included. 4 anti detonation grooves have been cut into the top of the piston to help quell detonation. The piston rides on a slipper skirt forging for minimum contact area on the cylinder walls to decrease friction, and the forging was made in such a way to make the piston as light as possible without having to use the milling machine to carve out the excess weight. The material 2618T-61, and machining they use also allow you to run a little tighter piston to wall clearance, so you don't sound like a diesel truck when you are running. The piston pins are $$ costly 0.866 Super Duty 4340 taper wall pins that are full!
  floating and come with Spirolox, along with the pistons being machined with lock removal indents.

The pins have already been precision cut, fit, and chamfered, their already to go. The ring set is not standard issue 3000GT either, they are Total Seal rings made for these pistons, and will NOT fit a stock 3000GT piston. The compression height remains, the stock 8.0-1 as we feel that this is optimal compression for turbocharged motors, and the top of the piston is  baby smooth with no sharp edges to help eliminate the chance of "hot spots".

Background on ROSS:
ROSS leads the way, with the latest in equipment and quality personnel to make a superior piston. This is their mission; "Make the best piston money can buy" regardless of price. They are not cheap, and they don't care, or wheel and deal on pistons. They do very little advertising, as they don't need to, they are swamped ALL the time with orders. One of the biggest differences between ROSS and companies like JE, Arias, etc., is that ROSS has machinery that is stae of the art, and much more up to date and they are constantly investing, to make sure that they stay ahead of the competition.

Their quality control checks are second to none, and all the pistons are checked by optical laser, nothing gets past them. One of the biggest thing that makes ROSS stand apart in respect to the piston manufacturing is their "gang cutter" this is a machine that cuts the ringlands into the piston.

The machine they have holds the piston in such a way that when the cutting tool contacts the piston to cut the ringlands , it is held in place VERY rigidly, and the ringlands are cut perfectly warp free, and totally flat. JE, Arias and the rest have yet to buy one of these machines. You ask what does this mean to me? Well, imagine this: if the ring grooves are totally warp free and straight, the rings lay flat on the piston ringlands, this is especially critical when you are really revving the motor because the rings are being pulled up and down, and if the rings don't have a completely flat surface to put pressure on, they tend to flutter, because they do not have the full contact area. When the rings start to flutter to much, this is when rings start to break. Also another by product of totally flat ringlands, is better sealing of the rings.

These pistons are not to be confused with lesser forged pistons that are merely stock piston copies, using stock pins and stock specs etc.These are the best custom pistons money can buy. Sure you can buy cheaper pistons, but that's what you get....
- -----------------------------------------------------------


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <mjannusch@marketwatch.com>

<SNIP> Is there any difference in design that makes one set better than the other?  <SNIP>


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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 11:20:06 +0200
From: "Mikael Kenson" <vr4@bahnhof.se>
Subject: Team3S: Cam shafts needed

Hi,

I need to buy a set of used cam shafts for my 3000GT VR-4 93.

Are the shafts from all years the same?

Sellers please contact me privately on vr4@bahnhof.se

Regards,

Mikael Kenson http://www.3000gt.nu



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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 08:14:31 -0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Complete Ultimate Tune-up?

GReddy Profec B?  Do you also have a real boost guage installed in the car?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: DiABLoCarAudio@aol.com [SMTP:DiABLoCarAudio@aol.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 9:03 PM
> To: team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
> Subject: Team3S: Complete Ultimate Tune-up?
>
>     Hi everyone, I just bought a 92 RT/TT a couple weeks ago and it will
> be
> on the road in a month.  The engine was rebuilt 15k miles ago and I'm
> looking
> to do a complete tune-up for the car before I take it out for the first
> time.
>  I want to change ALL the fluids, clean everything that needs cleaning,
> replace everything that needs replacing, and fix anything that may need
> fixing. 
>     Does anyone have a recommended tune-up schedule that they can write
> out
> for me or shove me in the right direction?  I'd like to have a list of
> everything to do on the car to get it up to perfect condition so I can
> just
> check it off as I got along.  I have pretty good knowledge of the
> naturally
> aspired stealth and am just learning about the turbocharged engines and
> all
> their little features.  I'll be getting a shop manual in the next couple
> of
> weeks and I'll have enough time to take a lot out of the engine
> compartment
> to get to little things that need fixing/replacing. 
>     Also, while we're on the topic of taking engines apart.  I want to
> upgrade to larger turbos, put in larger fuel injectors, and upgrade
> anything
> that will be required to put out ~600HP.  All the upgrades will have to
> wait
> a couple of months so I can get enough money, but I'd like to be able to
> price everything out and figure out how much I will be spending and when.
>
>     Is there a particular order that I should be upgrading?  For example,
> I
> know that I need to upgrade to larger fuel injectors to have larger turbos
>
> and in order to upgrade fuel injectors, I'd need a new ECU, or something
> along those lines. 
>     OK, simply put, did someone put together a diary of what they did to
> their car, how they did it, and when they did it?
> Thanks for any help,
> Paul
> 92RT
> 92RT/TT
>     Custom Exhaust
>     Porterfield Rotors & RS4 pads
>     K&N FIPK
>    
> P.S.  I found a greddy protec something or other under the dash.  This a
> boost controller, correct?  It has a knob measured in bars, so I'm
> guessing
> it is, but without driving the car, I don't know how I can test it to see
> if
> it's working. 

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Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 15:55:52 -0400
From: Mark Hindelang <hindelan@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Tuning Apexi AFC

well i guess im just assuming it is.
because my aftermarket apexi boost guage
hits 15.. its probably just hitting 14.5 tho.
my avcr is set at 1.0 bar and is still learning
the duty..

yes im on stock turbos.

i spiked up to 20 about 3 times before i got my duty right
and i have no problems. i had fuel cut on one occasion because it ran up
rpms
so fast i didn't shift in time, but then i just drove it nice for a
while and got
the avcr set right , and now its allways just hitting 14.5-15 every time
i slam
it to the floor.



"Berrios, Victor L" wrote:
>
> I notice your Apexi BC at 15psi.
> Are you running with stock turbos?
> I believe the safe max. you can run on stock turbos is 14psi
>
> Vic
> '96 VR-4
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Hindelang [mailto:hindelan@pilot.msu.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 9:37 AM
> To: Stealth Net; Team3S
> Subject: Team3S: Tuning Apexi AFC
>
> Good morning..
>
> With the list of mods I have shown below,
> does anyone have any tips to help guide me in the
> right direction in tuning my AFC..  I thought
> i heard something about tuning a few extra hp
> out of it due to having a bov, and higher boost.
> At the moment, the AFC is completely in default mode.
>
> Mark
> 1992 Green Stealth
>
> Apexi Indigo AVCR (@15psi)
> Apexi Indigo AFC
> K&N Filter
> Magnecore Wires
> HKS Super Sequential Blow Off Valve
> 3" Metal Y-Pipe
> RSR 2" spring lowering application
> Cusco Rear Strut Bar
> Greddy Turbo Timer
> Full ATR Exhaust - ATR Downpipe, Stright Test Pipe (no cat) , Full Cat
> back dual tips.
> Hose Techniques - Engine Bay Super White Hose Dress up
> 1 Bad Ass Attitude
>
> (Soon : New Paint Job Restoration, 3000gt Body Parts / Hybrid , Supra
> Fuel Pump )

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Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 15:56:51 -0400
From: Mark Hindelang <hindelan@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: Team3S: Re: Tuning Apexi AFC

where are you gonna do this?
will they tune everything? how long does this take?

and is it costly?  we gotta have an AWD dyno !
i hear thats tough to come by. .although someguy in detroit
just moved here from texas owns an AWD dyno. i think some dsm guys
know him.


Huey Martin wrote:
>
> take it to a dyno and get your whole car tuned is what i would do.  i have
> to do the same thing in about a month.  check you local area for dynos on
> www.dynojet.com
>
> -Huey
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Hindelang" <hindelan@pilot.msu.edu>
> To: "Stealth Net" <stealth@stls.verio.net>; "Team3S"
> <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 9:37 AM
> Subject: Tuning Apexi AFC
>
> >
> > Good morning..
> >
> > With the list of mods I have shown below,
> > does anyone have any tips to help guide me in the
> > right direction in tuning my AFC..  I thought
> > i heard something about tuning a few extra hp
> > out of it due to having a bov, and higher boost.
> > At the moment, the AFC is completely in default mode.
> >
> > Mark
> > 1992 Green Stealth
> >
> > Apexi Indigo AVCR (@15psi)
> > Apexi Indigo AFC
> > K&N Filter
> > Magnecore Wires
> > HKS Super Sequential Blow Off Valve
> > 3" Metal Y-Pipe
> > RSR 2" spring lowering application
> > Cusco Rear Strut Bar
> > Greddy Turbo Timer
> > Full ATR Exhaust - ATR Downpipe, Stright Test Pipe (no cat) , Full Cat
> > back dual tips.
> > Hose Techniques - Engine Bay Super White Hose Dress up
> > 1 Bad Ass Attitude
> >
> > (Soon : New Paint Job Restoration, 3000gt Body Parts / Hybrid , Supra
> > Fuel Pump )

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Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 08:22:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Lucius <stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Gauge Problems

If you are talking about the three gauges in the middle of the dash,
they are one unit. I have pictures and removal instructions at my web
pages below. The gauges can be replaced individually, but with
another factory gauge, not an aftermarket one.

http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius7/j7-2-combogauges.htm

http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius7/j7-2-dashpanel.htm

I am not sure "inaccurate" best describes the oil pressure gauge.
There are no numbers on the gauge. How do we know if it is telling us
the actual pressure or not? Maybe someone on this list has installed
an aftermarket gauge that we can use to "calibrate" our stock gauge.
The truth is oil pressure is not nearly as important as good flow.
The oil pressure sending unit is "before" the engine anyway (between
oil pump and oil passages).

Here's a little web page on oil pressure that some might find
interesting.

http://www.escape.ca/~dbrad/oil_pressure.htm

That link and over 80 many are on the Tech Page at my web site.

Jeff Lucius, www.stealth316.com

- ----- Original Message -----
From: <ThorHolth@aol.com>
To: <Team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 7:45 AM
Subject: Team3S: Gauge Problems

I have heard that the oil pressure gauge and turbo gauges on our cars
can be wildly inaccurate at times.  I was planning to pull apart my
dashboard to fix a few things, so I figure it may be time to upgrade
the gauges.  Does anybody know if the gauges are a complete one-piece
set, or can I replace them individually? Also, has anyone replaced
the stock gauges with aftermarket sets, if so, what type.  I was
thinking of going Cyberdyne digital for temp and oil pressure, with a
180-270 sweep for the manifold pressure.

Thanks for any advice.

Thor Holth (1991 R/T Turbo - 5 weeks and counting!)


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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 06:18:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Lucius <stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Complete Ultimate Tune-up?

Welcome to the world of 3S, Paul.

www.stealth316.com may help a little.

Jeff Lucius

- ----- Original Message -----
From: <DiABLoCarAudio@aol.com>
To: <team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 8:03 PM
Subject: Team3S: Complete Ultimate Tune-up?

    Hi everyone, I just bought a 92 RT/TT a couple weeks ago and it
will be on the road in a month.  The engine was rebuilt 15k miles ago
and I'm looking to do a complete tune-up for the car before I take it
out for the first time.  I want to change ALL the fluids, clean
everything that needs cleaning, replace everything that needs
replacing, and fix anything that may need fixing. 
    Does anyone have a recommended tune-up schedule that they can
write out for me or shove me in the right direction?  I'd like to
have a list of everything to do on the car to get it up to perfect
condition so I can just check it off as I got along.  I have pretty
good knowledge of the naturally aspired stealth and am just learning
about the turbocharged engines and all their little features.  I'll
be getting a shop manual in the next couple of weeks and I'll have
enough time to take a lot out of the engine compartment to get to
little things that need fixing/replacing. 
    Also, while we're on the topic of taking engines apart.  I want
to upgrade to larger turbos, put in larger fuel injectors, and
upgrade anything that will be required to put out ~600HP.  All the
upgrades will have to wait a couple of months so I can get enough
money, but I'd like to be able to price everything out and figure out
how much I will be spending and when. 
    Is there a particular order that I should be upgrading?  For
example, I know that I need to upgrade to larger fuel injectors to
have larger turbos and in order to upgrade fuel injectors, I'd need a
new ECU, or something along those lines. 
    OK, simply put, did someone put together a diary of what they did
to their car, how they did it, and when they did it?
Thanks for any help,
Paul
92RT
92RT/TT
    Custom Exhaust
    Porterfield Rotors & RS4 pads
    K&N FIPK
   
P.S.  I found a greddy protec something or other under the dash.
This a boost controller, correct?  It has a knob measured in bars, so
I'm guessing it is, but without driving the car, I don't know how I
can test it to see if it's working. 

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Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 06:14:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Lucius <stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Turbo replacement / repair

Your options and other info, including where to buy are on my
comprehensive turbo upgrade guide at the link below.

http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius2/j2-2-turboguide.htm

Do the work yourself and save $1000, which could be spent toward
15G-class turbos. Or just have your 9B turbos rebuilt.

http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius2/j2-2-tsg_v10.htm

Jeff Lucius, www.stealth316.com

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan C. Sheffield" <a92rttt@hotmail.com>
To: "starnet" <stealth@starnet.net>; <mi3si@yahoogroups.com>;
<team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 7:12 PM
Subject: Team3S: Turbo replacement / repair

I just found out that I am going to have to replace/repair both of my
turbos.

I'm looking for the lease expensive option that will still be good
quality.

The only option I see right now it Dynamic Racings DR-500 turbos for
1299 a pair.

Is there a better option ?

Alan
a92rttt@hotmail.com


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Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 17:59:57 -0000
From: "Sam Shelat" <sshelat@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Gauge Problems

I think Brian at Gt-pro said the HKS 60mm gauges can be pushed into the
three openings in the center dash that hold the stock gauges.

Sam
- -----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Lucius <stealthman92@yahoo.com>
To: Team3s@stealth-3000gt.st <Team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Date: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Gauge Problems


>If you are talking about the three gauges in the middle of the dash,
>they are one unit. I have pictures and removal instructions at my web
>pages below. The gauges can be replaced individually, but with
>another factory gauge, not an aftermarket one.
>
>http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius7/j7-2-combogauges.htm
>
>http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius7/j7-2-dashpanel.htm
>
>I am not sure "inaccurate" best describes the oil pressure gauge.
>There are no numbers on the gauge. How do we know if it is telling us
>the actual pressure or not? Maybe someone on this list has installed
>an aftermarket gauge that we can use to "calibrate" our stock gauge.
>The truth is oil pressure is not nearly as important as good flow.
>The oil pressure sending unit is "before" the engine anyway (between
>oil pump and oil passages).
>
>Here's a little web page on oil pressure that some might find
>interesting.
>
>http://www.escape.ca/~dbrad/oil_pressure.htm
>
>That link and over 80 many are on the Tech Page at my web site.
>
>Jeff Lucius, www.stealth316.com
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <ThorHolth@aol.com>
>To: <Team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
>Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 7:45 AM
>Subject: Team3S: Gauge Problems
>
>I have heard that the oil pressure gauge and turbo gauges on our cars
>can be wildly inaccurate at times.  I was planning to pull apart my
>dashboard to fix a few things, so I figure it may be time to upgrade
>the gauges.  Does anybody know if the gauges are a complete one-piece
>set, or can I replace them individually? Also, has anyone replaced
>the stock gauges with aftermarket sets, if so, what type.  I was
>thinking of going Cyberdyne digital for temp and oil pressure, with a
>180-270 sweep for the manifold pressure.
>
>Thanks for any advice.
>
>Thor Holth (1991 R/T Turbo - 5 weeks and counting!)

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Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 15:38:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Lucius <stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Gauge Problems

>> I think Brian at Gt-pro said the HKS 60mm gauges can be
>> pushed into the three openings in the center dash that
>> hold the stock gauges.

That's correct, after the stock three gauges are removed together.
52-mm gauges will work if the glass covers of the originals are
retained. There is no practical aftermarket replacement of gauges
individually (that is, keep the stock coolant temp and oil pressure
gauges but have an aftermarket boost gauge).

http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius7/j7-2-combogauges.htm

Aftermarket 60-mm gauges look pretty sharp in there. Does anyone know
if the stock senders for the coolant temp and oil pressure can be
used with aftermarket gauges? Or will the aftermarket senders thread
into the stock sender locations (maybe with an adapter)?

Jeff Lucius, www.stealth316.com

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam Shelat" <sshelat@erols.com>
To: "Jeff Lucius" <stealthman92@yahoo.com>;
<Team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Gauge Problems

I think Brian at Gt-pro said the HKS 60mm gauges can be pushed into
the three openings in the center dash that hold the stock gauges.

Sam


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Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 17:47:42 -0500
From: "Oskar" <osk@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Gauge Problems

Thor,


52 mm gauges will fit nicely and look like they were made to fit the car.  I
would recommend a mechanical boost gauge.  Just be sure to connect the hose
properly as you will not be tearing down your dash very often.
Mechanical water temp can be connected right next to the stock sensors.
There is an extra plug in the housing next to the water temp sensors for the
stock gauge and ECU.
Mechanical oil pressure can be connected where stock oil press. sensor for
stock gauge is located.
I used the Autometer Phantom line in my car.  It is a bit tricky to
fabricate a bracket for mounting these gauges.  The stock gauges is actually
just one assembly.

I have attached a small picture.  The gauges are fuel pressure (electric),
oil pressure (mechanical) and water temp (mechanical).  The boost gauge is
located on the A-pillar.  I believe this pic.
was taken going down the freeway in fourth gear.

Oskar
'95 R/T TT



- ----- Original Message -----
From: <ThorHolth@aol.com>
To: <Team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2001 8:45 AM
Subject: Team3S: Gauge Problems


> I have heard that the oil pressure gauge and turbo gauges on our cars can
be
> wildly inaccurate at times.  I was planning to pull apart my dashboard to
fix
> a few things, so I figure it may be time to upgrade the gauges.  Does
anybody
> know if the gauges are a complete one-piece set, or can I replace them
> individually? Also, has anyone replaced the stock gauges with aftermarket
> sets, if so, what type.  I was thinking of going Cyberdyne digital for
temp
> and oil pressure, with a 180-270 sweep for the manifold pressure.
>
> Thanks for any advice.


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