team3s             Tuesday, April 17 2001             Volume 01 : Number 467




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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:35:33 -0700
From: Richard <radanc@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: brake question

I am not sure getting steel lines for his particular car given his
question would be most judicious $$ usage.

Rich

Jeff Lucius wrote:
>
> Dollars in $US.
>
> 1) Change your brake fluid (try Ate 200 @ $8.50/liter)
> 2) Add SS brake lines (~$200)
> 3) Get some Kevlar-blend pads (~$250)
> or maybe just
> 4) Stickier tires (~$150/tire for Nitto 555 or similar)
>
> More details on brake stuff at my web page below.
>
> http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius2/j2-2-brakeupgrade.htm
>
> Jeff Lucius, www.stealth316.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrzej Artymowicz" <andrzej.artymowicz@wp.pl>
> To: "3000GT list" <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 1:08 PM
> Subject: Team3S: brake question
>
> Hello!
>
> I'm driving '95 Base, 225/55/16 (sorry no ABS... :(  3000GT  just for
> month. I'm very happy but I have question: How to improve brakes in
> my car, without spending too much cash? (<$600).
>
> Thanks for support regards
>
> Andrzej Artymowicz
> andrzej.artymowicz@wp.pl
> Poland
> tel. +48 601 250368 C
> tel. +48 22 6715375 H
>
> '95 Pearl Green 3000GT (NA, DOHC, 5-speed) 40000mi
>

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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:23:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@speedracer.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: brake questions..

Those are the prices I get + a pittance to maintain the Team3s lists and
WWW services.  (You dont wanna know what power costs here *heh*)

I CAN meet the 20% off list ($5 cheaper than the price I listed below) if
someone just asks.

That will not include shipping/taxes/paypal fees...etc.

On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Richard wrote:

> Does the 20% 3S discount still apply? I stocked up a while ago, and that
> looks like the old discount we got. Is this long standing?
>
> Rich
> 92 Stealth TT
>
> Geoff Mohler wrote:
> >
> > Better pads (Porterfield R4-S for $156 all-around + shipping), or an
> > upgrade to 2nd gen brake hardware would get you to the $600 point pretty
> > quick..but _really_ make a difference.
> >
> > 2nd gen porterfield rotors+pads would cost about $513+shipping brand new.
> >
> > On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Andrzej Artymowicz wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hello!
> > >
> > > I'm driving '95 Base, 225/55/16 (sorry no ABS... :(  3000GT  just for month.
> > > I'm very happy but I have question: How to improve brakes in my car, without
> > > spending too much cash? (<$600).
> > >
> > > Thanks for support regards
> > >
> > > Andrzej Artymowicz
> > > andrzej.artymowicz@wp.pl
> > > Poland
> > > tel. +48 601 250368 C
> > > tel. +48 22 6715375 H
> > >
> > > '95 Pearl Green 3000GT (NA, DOHC, 5-speed) 40000mi
> > >

- ---
Geoff Mohler <gemohler@speedtoys.com
California, USA

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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:24:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@speedracer.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: brake question

They wouldnt add any performance to the system at all, just a better
"feel".

On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Richard wrote:

> I am not sure getting steel lines for his particular car given his
> question would be most judicious $$ usage.
>
> Rich
>
> Jeff Lucius wrote:
> >
> > Dollars in $US.
> >
> > 1) Change your brake fluid (try Ate 200 @ $8.50/liter)
> > 2) Add SS brake lines (~$200)
> > 3) Get some Kevlar-blend pads (~$250)
> > or maybe just
> > 4) Stickier tires (~$150/tire for Nitto 555 or similar)
> >
> > More details on brake stuff at my web page below.
> >
> > http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius2/j2-2-brakeupgrade.htm
> >
> > Jeff Lucius, www.stealth316.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Andrzej Artymowicz" <andrzej.artymowicz@wp.pl>
> > To: "3000GT list" <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 1:08 PM
> > Subject: Team3S: brake question
> >
> > Hello!
> >
> > I'm driving '95 Base, 225/55/16 (sorry no ABS... :(  3000GT  just for
> > month. I'm very happy but I have question: How to improve brakes in
> > my car, without spending too much cash? (<$600).
> >
> > Thanks for support regards
> >
> > Andrzej Artymowicz
> > andrzej.artymowicz@wp.pl
> > Poland
> > tel. +48 601 250368 C
> > tel. +48 22 6715375 H
> >
> > '95 Pearl Green 3000GT (NA, DOHC, 5-speed) 40000mi
> >

- ---
Geoff Mohler <gemohler@speedtoys.com
California, USA

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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:06:07 -0700
From: Mihai Raicu <aa2345@wayne.edu>
Subject: Team3S: SUPER HIGH EGT Temperatures!!!

Hello everyone,

I have recently hooked up an EGT gauge that I drilled and inserted in the front
manifold, between cylinder 1 and 2, if I remember correctly.  I have had an Apexi
AVC-R with a K&N air filter installed for the past 6 months.  Right before the
upgrade, I did the 120K tune-up, although the car only had 65K miles on it.  I
gapped the plugs at .34 (I think), whatever everybody recommended.  The boost is
great, I cannot complain about anything, except for the EGT gauge...

Here is a list of scenarios that I noticed, and those that have EGT gauge, tell me
if these are weird...
1. 825 ~ 850 degrees Celsius -- Cruising at 80 mph in anything from 3rd gear to 6th
gear with boost controller off or on.
2. 880 degrees Celsius -- going from 70 mph to 150 mph, redlining every gear, but
the catch is with the boost off, that means about 5 ~ 7 PSI of boost, boy does it
take a long time to get there
3. 1030 degrees Celsius -- going from 70 mph to 150 mph, redlining every gear, but
with the boost set to 1 bar, and it pretty much holds 13 ~ 15 PSI all the time.

I noticed that even if I just punch it to 120 or 130 on the highway, and I am
already at 1000 degrees Celsius, which does not make any sense.  Looking back
through some older posts, it seems that 950 degrees Celsius is eminent meltdown in
a few seconds.  Could the readings be wrong, because I have even done 169 mph, in
which I was on the throttle for probably about 90 seconds, as I had a stretch of
open road of about 5 miles, and I was doing over 100 mph when I started the
straight away.  However, at the time, I did not have the EGT gauge working, but I
wonder what those temperatures were, if short bursts of 10 seconds gets the
temperatures above 1000 degrees Celsius.  As a little side note, my brother also
installed the same setup of mods including an EGT gauge at the same time with me,
and he is also getting high readings, but not as high as me.  He has also seen his
EGT temps around 975 @ about 135 mph, which is still unacceptably high.  One other
thing to keep in mind, on my car, I have a dying clutch (hoping to get the RPS
stage 2 soon), which if I am not careful, slips a lot under full load with the
boost on.  Could a slipping clutch with the boost on cause such high EGT temps???
Lots of questions, hoping for lots of answers.


Thanks a million everybody,

John Raicu
94 Yellow TT

&
Mihai Raicu
95 Red VR-4

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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:24:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@speedracer.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: SUPER HIGH EGT Temperatures!!!

What turbo you on?

You could be going lean at 15psi under those loads to reach 1000+.

On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Mihai Raicu wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I have recently hooked up an EGT gauge that I drilled and inserted in the front
> manifold, between cylinder 1 and 2, if I remember correctly.  I have had an Apexi
> AVC-R with a K&N air filter installed for the past 6 months.  Right before the
> upgrade, I did the 120K tune-up, although the car only had 65K miles on it.  I
> gapped the plugs at .34 (I think), whatever everybody recommended.  The boost is
> great, I cannot complain about anything, except for the EGT gauge...
>
> Here is a list of scenarios that I noticed, and those that have EGT gauge, tell me
> if these are weird...
> 1. 825 ~ 850 degrees Celsius -- Cruising at 80 mph in anything from 3rd gear to 6th
> gear with boost controller off or on.
> 2. 880 degrees Celsius -- going from 70 mph to 150 mph, redlining every gear, but
> the catch is with the boost off, that means about 5 ~ 7 PSI of boost, boy does it
> take a long time to get there
> 3. 1030 degrees Celsius -- going from 70 mph to 150 mph, redlining every gear, but
> with the boost set to 1 bar, and it pretty much holds 13 ~ 15 PSI all the time.
>
> I noticed that even if I just punch it to 120 or 130 on the highway, and I am
> already at 1000 degrees Celsius, which does not make any sense.  Looking back
> through some older posts, it seems that 950 degrees Celsius is eminent meltdown in
> a few seconds.  Could the readings be wrong, because I have even done 169 mph, in
> which I was on the throttle for probably about 90 seconds, as I had a stretch of
> open road of about 5 miles, and I was doing over 100 mph when I started the
> straight away.  However, at the time, I did not have the EGT gauge working, but I
> wonder what those temperatures were, if short bursts of 10 seconds gets the
> temperatures above 1000 degrees Celsius.  As a little side note, my brother also
> installed the same setup of mods including an EGT gauge at the same time with me,
> and he is also getting high readings, but not as high as me.  He has also seen his
> EGT temps around 975 @ about 135 mph, which is still unacceptably high.  One other
> thing to keep in mind, on my car, I have a dying clutch (hoping to get the RPS
> stage 2 soon), which if I am not careful, slips a lot under full load with the
> boost on.  Could a slipping clutch with the boost on cause such high EGT temps???
> Lots of questions, hoping for lots of answers.
>
>
> Thanks a million everybody,
>
> John Raicu
> 94 Yellow TT
>
> &
> Mihai Raicu
> 95 Red VR-4

- ---
Geoff Mohler <gemohler@speedtoys.com
California, USA

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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:21:40 -0700
From: Mihai Raicu <aa2345@wayne.edu>
Subject: Team3S: Looking for TT/VR-4 in California... a bit off topic

Hello everybody,

Sorry for the off topic request, but I figured the Team3S list is
probably the best gang that could help me with my situation.

I currently live in Michigan, and I am going to California for the
summer for work.  They will not cover my car shipping to CA, which is
something like $750 one way, which I would rather invest in some mods
than just throw away on shipping, in which they will probably scratch or
(ding) my car in some way or another, they always manage.  Instead of
shipping my car to CA, I figured I would rather buy a used stealth or
3000GT, preferably a TT or VR-4 since I would be totally disappointed
with anything else.  I figured if I look at the 91 to 93, TT or VR-4,
with under 100K miles, I think I could get it for under $10K.  My ideal
buy would be any year TT (any color but green) with about 70K miles for
about $8K.  As I looked on www.autotrader.com, I found several within my
search criteria around and about in CA.  I will be specifically located
in Palo Alto, San Jose area, but I do not mind flying in to a nearby
city and driving even 300 ~ 500 miles if the buy proves to be a real
steal.  What I am asking the list is if people in the CA regions (San
Francisco, San Jose, San Diego, LA, etc...) to please email me privately
if you could help me find a nice car.  I am swamped with school for
another 2 weeks, but on May 1st, I will try to start making plans.  I am
leaving for Europe on May 9th, which means it only leaves me 9 days to
find a car and put a deposit on it so I can pick it up on June 10th,
when I return.  Any help would be appreciated from our fellow CA
members.  As long as I know who can help me (probably look at nearby
cars and test drive them), as long as time permits ofcoarse, I will be
contacting you in early May with potential buys that are in the nearby
areas.  Thanks a lot, once again, and hope to hear from many CA
people...


John Raicu
94 Yellow TT

&
Mihai Raicu
95 Red VR-4

&
My mom
93 Red Base Stealth (my old car)

&
the soon to be coming CA car...


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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:21:35 -0700
From: Mihai Raicu <aa2345@wayne.edu>
Subject: Re: Team3S: SUPER HIGH EGT Temperatures!!!

Just as a little clarification, both my car and my brother's car are completely stock,
except for:

Apexi AVC-R
K&N Air Filter
Autometer Boost Gauge
Greddy EGT Gauge

I have some other mods such as Eibach springs and better brakes, but those are
unimportant.  The car is US spec, so it should have 9b turbos.

John Raicu
94 Yellow TT


Geoff Mohler wrote:

> What turbo you on?
>
> You could be going lean at 15psi under those loads to reach 1000+.
>
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Mihai Raicu wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I have recently hooked up an EGT gauge that I drilled and inserted in the front
> > manifold, between cylinder 1 and 2, if I remember correctly.  I have had an Apexi
> > AVC-R with a K&N air filter installed for the past 6 months.  Right before the
> > upgrade, I did the 120K tune-up, although the car only had 65K miles on it.  I
> > gapped the plugs at .34 (I think), whatever everybody recommended.  The boost is
> > great, I cannot complain about anything, except for the EGT gauge...
> >
> > Here is a list of scenarios that I noticed, and those that have EGT gauge, tell me
> > if these are weird...
> > 1. 825 ~ 850 degrees Celsius -- Cruising at 80 mph in anything from 3rd gear to 6th
> > gear with boost controller off or on.
> > 2. 880 degrees Celsius -- going from 70 mph to 150 mph, redlining every gear, but
> > the catch is with the boost off, that means about 5 ~ 7 PSI of boost, boy does it
> > take a long time to get there
> > 3. 1030 degrees Celsius -- going from 70 mph to 150 mph, redlining every gear, but
> > with the boost set to 1 bar, and it pretty much holds 13 ~ 15 PSI all the time.
> >
> > I noticed that even if I just punch it to 120 or 130 on the highway, and I am
> > already at 1000 degrees Celsius, which does not make any sense.  Looking back
> > through some older posts, it seems that 950 degrees Celsius is eminent meltdown in
> > a few seconds.  Could the readings be wrong, because I have even done 169 mph, in
> > which I was on the throttle for probably about 90 seconds, as I had a stretch of
> > open road of about 5 miles, and I was doing over 100 mph when I started the
> > straight away.  However, at the time, I did not have the EGT gauge working, but I
> > wonder what those temperatures were, if short bursts of 10 seconds gets the
> > temperatures above 1000 degrees Celsius.  As a little side note, my brother also
> > installed the same setup of mods including an EGT gauge at the same time with me,
> > and he is also getting high readings, but not as high as me.  He has also seen his
> > EGT temps around 975 @ about 135 mph, which is still unacceptably high.  One other
> > thing to keep in mind, on my car, I have a dying clutch (hoping to get the RPS
> > stage 2 soon), which if I am not careful, slips a lot under full load with the
> > boost on.  Could a slipping clutch with the boost on cause such high EGT temps???
> > Lots of questions, hoping for lots of answers.
> >
> >
> > Thanks a million everybody,
> >
> > John Raicu
> > 94 Yellow TT
> >
> > &
> > Mihai Raicu
> > 95 Red VR-4
> >

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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:28:05 -0400
From: Mark Hindelang <hindelan@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: Team3S: SUPER HIGH EGT Temperatures!!!

that leads me to another question... where is the best place to install
the heat sensor
on the exhaust system?


Geoff Mohler wrote:
>
> What turbo you on?
>
> You could be going lean at 15psi under those loads to reach 1000+.
>
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Mihai Raicu wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > I have recently hooked up an EGT gauge that I drilled and inserted in the front
> > manifold, between cylinder 1 and 2, if I remember correctly.  I have had an Apexi
> > AVC-R with a K&N air filter installed for the past 6 months.  Right before the
> > upgrade, I did the 120K tune-up, although the car only had 65K miles on it.  I
> > gapped the plugs at .34 (I think), whatever everybody recommended.  The boost is
> > great, I cannot complain about anything, except for the EGT gauge...
> >
> > Here is a list of scenarios that I noticed, and those that have EGT gauge, tell me
> > if these are weird...
> > 1. 825 ~ 850 degrees Celsius -- Cruising at 80 mph in anything from 3rd gear to 6th
> > gear with boost controller off or on.
> > 2. 880 degrees Celsius -- going from 70 mph to 150 mph, redlining every gear, but
> > the catch is with the boost off, that means about 5 ~ 7 PSI of boost, boy does it
> > take a long time to get there
> > 3. 1030 degrees Celsius -- going from 70 mph to 150 mph, redlining every gear, but
> > with the boost set to 1 bar, and it pretty much holds 13 ~ 15 PSI all the time.
> >
> > I noticed that even if I just punch it to 120 or 130 on the highway, and I am
> > already at 1000 degrees Celsius, which does not make any sense.  Looking back
> > through some older posts, it seems that 950 degrees Celsius is eminent meltdown in
> > a few seconds.  Could the readings be wrong, because I have even done 169 mph, in
> > which I was on the throttle for probably about 90 seconds, as I had a stretch of
> > open road of about 5 miles, and I was doing over 100 mph when I started the
> > straight away.  However, at the time, I did not have the EGT gauge working, but I
> > wonder what those temperatures were, if short bursts of 10 seconds gets the
> > temperatures above 1000 degrees Celsius.  As a little side note, my brother also
> > installed the same setup of mods including an EGT gauge at the same time with me,
> > and he is also getting high readings, but not as high as me.  He has also seen his
> > EGT temps around 975 @ about 135 mph, which is still unacceptably high.  One other
> > thing to keep in mind, on my car, I have a dying clutch (hoping to get the RPS
> > stage 2 soon), which if I am not careful, slips a lot under full load with the
> > boost on.  Could a slipping clutch with the boost on cause such high EGT temps???
> > Lots of questions, hoping for lots of answers.
> >
> >
> > Thanks a million everybody,
> >
> > John Raicu
> > 94 Yellow TT
> >
> > &
> > Mihai Raicu
> > 95 Red VR-4
> >

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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:52:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@speedracer.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: SUPER HIGH EGT Temperatures!!!

Id say bring your boost down to NOT pass 950c.

Investigate fuel filter..etc..and see if that helps.

You sound lean up high.

On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Mihai Raicu wrote:

> Just as a little clarification, both my car and my brother's car are completely stock,
> except for:
>
> Apexi AVC-R
> K&N Air Filter
> Autometer Boost Gauge
> Greddy EGT Gauge
>
> I have some other mods such as Eibach springs and better brakes, but those are
> unimportant.  The car is US spec, so it should have 9b turbos.
>
> John Raicu
> 94 Yellow TT
>
>
> Geoff Mohler wrote:
>
> > What turbo you on?
> >
> > You could be going lean at 15psi under those loads to reach 1000+.
> >
> > On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Mihai Raicu wrote:
> >
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > I have recently hooked up an EGT gauge that I drilled and inserted in the front
> > > manifold, between cylinder 1 and 2, if I remember correctly.  I have had an Apexi
> > > AVC-R with a K&N air filter installed for the past 6 months.  Right before the
> > > upgrade, I did the 120K tune-up, although the car only had 65K miles on it.  I
> > > gapped the plugs at .34 (I think), whatever everybody recommended.  The boost is
> > > great, I cannot complain about anything, except for the EGT gauge...
> > >
> > > Here is a list of scenarios that I noticed, and those that have EGT gauge, tell me
> > > if these are weird...
> > > 1. 825 ~ 850 degrees Celsius -- Cruising at 80 mph in anything from 3rd gear to 6th
> > > gear with boost controller off or on.
> > > 2. 880 degrees Celsius -- going from 70 mph to 150 mph, redlining every gear, but
> > > the catch is with the boost off, that means about 5 ~ 7 PSI of boost, boy does it
> > > take a long time to get there
> > > 3. 1030 degrees Celsius -- going from 70 mph to 150 mph, redlining every gear, but
> > > with the boost set to 1 bar, and it pretty much holds 13 ~ 15 PSI all the time.
> > >
> > > I noticed that even if I just punch it to 120 or 130 on the highway, and I am
> > > already at 1000 degrees Celsius, which does not make any sense.  Looking back
> > > through some older posts, it seems that 950 degrees Celsius is eminent meltdown in
> > > a few seconds.  Could the readings be wrong, because I have even done 169 mph, in
> > > which I was on the throttle for probably about 90 seconds, as I had a stretch of
> > > open road of about 5 miles, and I was doing over 100 mph when I started the
> > > straight away.  However, at the time, I did not have the EGT gauge working, but I
> > > wonder what those temperatures were, if short bursts of 10 seconds gets the
> > > temperatures above 1000 degrees Celsius.  As a little side note, my brother also
> > > installed the same setup of mods including an EGT gauge at the same time with me,
> > > and he is also getting high readings, but not as high as me.  He has also seen his
> > > EGT temps around 975 @ about 135 mph, which is still unacceptably high.  One other
> > > thing to keep in mind, on my car, I have a dying clutch (hoping to get the RPS
> > > stage 2 soon), which if I am not careful, slips a lot under full load with the
> > > boost on.  Could a slipping clutch with the boost on cause such high EGT temps???
> > > Lots of questions, hoping for lots of answers.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks a million everybody,
> > >
> > > John Raicu
> > > 94 Yellow TT
> > >
> > > &
> > > Mihai Raicu
> > > 95 Red VR-4
> > >

- ---
Geoff Mohler <gemohler@speedtoys.com
California, USA

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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:53:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@speedracer.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Team3S: Re: SUPER HIGH EGT Temperatures!!!

As close to the head as possible, at the cylinder farthest from the inlet
to the fuel rail.

You'll find lean conditions there first.

All things being equal, one sensor at the collector in front of each turbo
would be "best".

On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Mark Hindelang wrote:

> that leads me to another question... where is the best place to install
> the heat sensor
> on the exhaust system?
>
>
>
> Geoff Mohler wrote:
> >
> > What turbo you on?
> >
> > You could be going lean at 15psi under those loads to reach 1000+.
> >
> > On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Mihai Raicu wrote:
> >
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > I have recently hooked up an EGT gauge that I drilled and inserted in the front
> > > manifold, between cylinder 1 and 2, if I remember correctly.  I have had an Apexi
> > > AVC-R with a K&N air filter installed for the past 6 months.  Right before the
> > > upgrade, I did the 120K tune-up, although the car only had 65K miles on it.  I
> > > gapped the plugs at .34 (I think), whatever everybody recommended.  The boost is
> > > great, I cannot complain about anything, except for the EGT gauge...
> > >
> > > Here is a list of scenarios that I noticed, and those that have EGT gauge, tell me
> > > if these are weird...
> > > 1. 825 ~ 850 degrees Celsius -- Cruising at 80 mph in anything from 3rd gear to 6th
> > > gear with boost controller off or on.
> > > 2. 880 degrees Celsius -- going from 70 mph to 150 mph, redlining every gear, but
> > > the catch is with the boost off, that means about 5 ~ 7 PSI of boost, boy does it
> > > take a long time to get there
> > > 3. 1030 degrees Celsius -- going from 70 mph to 150 mph, redlining every gear, but
> > > with the boost set to 1 bar, and it pretty much holds 13 ~ 15 PSI all the time.
> > >
> > > I noticed that even if I just punch it to 120 or 130 on the highway, and I am
> > > already at 1000 degrees Celsius, which does not make any sense.  Looking back
> > > through some older posts, it seems that 950 degrees Celsius is eminent meltdown in
> > > a few seconds.  Could the readings be wrong, because I have even done 169 mph, in
> > > which I was on the throttle for probably about 90 seconds, as I had a stretch of
> > > open road of about 5 miles, and I was doing over 100 mph when I started the
> > > straight away.  However, at the time, I did not have the EGT gauge working, but I
> > > wonder what those temperatures were, if short bursts of 10 seconds gets the
> > > temperatures above 1000 degrees Celsius.  As a little side note, my brother also
> > > installed the same setup of mods including an EGT gauge at the same time with me,
> > > and he is also getting high readings, but not as high as me.  He has also seen his
> > > EGT temps around 975 @ about 135 mph, which is still unacceptably high.  One other
> > > thing to keep in mind, on my car, I have a dying clutch (hoping to get the RPS
> > > stage 2 soon), which if I am not careful, slips a lot under full load with the
> > > boost on.  Could a slipping clutch with the boost on cause such high EGT temps???
> > > Lots of questions, hoping for lots of answers.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks a million everybody,
> > >
> > > John Raicu
> > > 94 Yellow TT
> > >
> > > &
> > > Mihai Raicu
> > > 95 Red VR-4
> > >
> > >

- ---
Geoff Mohler <gemohler@speedtoys.com
California, USA

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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:50:58 -0700
From: Mihai Raicu <aa2345@wayne.edu>
Subject: Re: Team3S: SUPER HIGH EGT Temperatures!!!

Due to myweak clutch, I am running with my boost controller off, so I am not hurting anything
for now.  I hope I can get this resolved by the time I change my clutch, since I would really
like to enjoy the full power of the car once again.  I will go ahead and follow up on the
fuel filter as you suggested.  I'll keep you guys posted.

John Raicu
94 Yellow TT

Geoff Mohler wrote:

> Id say bring your boost down to NOT pass 950c.
>
> Investigate fuel filter..etc..and see if that helps.
>
> You sound lean up high.
>
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Mihai Raicu wrote:
>
> > Just as a little clarification, both my car and my brother's car are completely stock,
> > except for:
> >
> > Apexi AVC-R
> > K&N Air Filter
> > Autometer Boost Gauge
> > Greddy EGT Gauge
> >
> > I have some other mods such as Eibach springs and better brakes, but those are
> > unimportant.  The car is US spec, so it should have 9b turbos.
> >
> > John Raicu
> > 94 Yellow TT
> >
> >
> > Geoff Mohler wrote:
> >
> > > What turbo you on?
> > >
> > > You could be going lean at 15psi under those loads to reach 1000+.
> > >
> > > On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Mihai Raicu wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello everyone,
> > > >
> > > > I have recently hooked up an EGT gauge that I drilled and inserted in the front
> > > > manifold, between cylinder 1 and 2, if I remember correctly.  I have had an Apexi
> > > > AVC-R with a K&N air filter installed for the past 6 months.  Right before the
> > > > upgrade, I did the 120K tune-up, although the car only had 65K miles on it.  I
> > > > gapped the plugs at .34 (I think), whatever everybody recommended.  The boost is
> > > > great, I cannot complain about anything, except for the EGT gauge...
> > > >
> > > > Here is a list of scenarios that I noticed, and those that have EGT gauge, tell me
> > > > if these are weird...
> > > > 1. 825 ~ 850 degrees Celsius -- Cruising at 80 mph in anything from 3rd gear to 6th
> > > > gear with boost controller off or on.
> > > > 2. 880 degrees Celsius -- going from 70 mph to 150 mph, redlining every gear, but
> > > > the catch is with the boost off, that means about 5 ~ 7 PSI of boost, boy does it
> > > > take a long time to get there
> > > > 3. 1030 degrees Celsius -- going from 70 mph to 150 mph, redlining every gear, but
> > > > with the boost set to 1 bar, and it pretty much holds 13 ~ 15 PSI all the time.
> > > >
> > > > I noticed that even if I just punch it to 120 or 130 on the highway, and I am
> > > > already at 1000 degrees Celsius, which does not make any sense.  Looking back
> > > > through some older posts, it seems that 950 degrees Celsius is eminent meltdown in
> > > > a few seconds.  Could the readings be wrong, because I have even done 169 mph, in
> > > > which I was on the throttle for probably about 90 seconds, as I had a stretch of
> > > > open road of about 5 miles, and I was doing over 100 mph when I started the
> > > > straight away.  However, at the time, I did not have the EGT gauge working, but I
> > > > wonder what those temperatures were, if short bursts of 10 seconds gets the
> > > > temperatures above 1000 degrees Celsius.  As a little side note, my brother also
> > > > installed the same setup of mods including an EGT gauge at the same time with me,
> > > > and he is also getting high readings, but not as high as me.  He has also seen his
> > > > EGT temps around 975 @ about 135 mph, which is still unacceptably high.  One other
> > > > thing to keep in mind, on my car, I have a dying clutch (hoping to get the RPS
> > > > stage 2 soon), which if I am not careful, slips a lot under full load with the
> > > > boost on.  Could a slipping clutch with the boost on cause such high EGT temps???
> > > > Lots of questions, hoping for lots of answers.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks a million everybody,
> > > >
> > > > John Raicu
> > > > 94 Yellow TT
> > > >
> > > > &
> > > > Mihai Raicu
> > > > 95 Red VR-4

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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 22:20:24 -0700
From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: SUPER HIGH EGT Temperatures!!!

Ten inches from the flame front is probably the most useful reading.

As to high EGTs, combustion in the header will lead to excessively high EGTs
not representative of ping.  This can happen when the timing and mixture is
such that the charge is either still burning significantly when the exhaust
valve opens or that excess fuel burns in the header since the header is
damned hot.

Or it could be you are so friggin' lean that the pistons are about to
melt-down.  Take your pick.

Very high EGT readings are not uncommon in todays lean-burn cruising-mode
programmed ECUs.  I'd be more concerned about sustained WOT under load EGT
readings.


Regards,

Barry

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
> [mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Mark Hindelang
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 9:28 PM
> To: Geoff Mohler; Team3S; Stealth Net
> Subject: Team3S: SUPER HIGH EGT Temperatures!!!
>
>
> that leads me to another question... where is the best place to install
> the heat sensor
> on the exhaust system?
>
>
>
> Geoff Mohler wrote:
> >
> > What turbo you on?
> >
> > You could be going lean at 15psi under those loads to reach 1000+.
> >
> > On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Mihai Raicu wrote:
> >
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > I have recently hooked up an EGT gauge that I drilled and
> inserted in the front
> > > manifold, between cylinder 1 and 2, if I remember correctly.
> I have had an Apexi
> > > AVC-R with a K&N air filter installed for the past 6 months.
> Right before the
> > > upgrade, I did the 120K tune-up, although the car only had
> 65K miles on it.  I
> > > gapped the plugs at .34 (I think), whatever everybody
> recommended.  The boost is
> > > great, I cannot complain about anything, except for the EGT gauge...
> > >
> > > Here is a list of scenarios that I noticed, and those that
> have EGT gauge, tell me
> > > if these are weird...
> > > 1. 825 ~ 850 degrees Celsius -- Cruising at 80 mph in
> anything from 3rd gear to 6th
> > > gear with boost controller off or on.
> > > 2. 880 degrees Celsius -- going from 70 mph to 150 mph,
> redlining every gear, but
> > > the catch is with the boost off, that means about 5 ~ 7 PSI
> of boost, boy does it
> > > take a long time to get there
> > > 3. 1030 degrees Celsius -- going from 70 mph to 150 mph,
> redlining every gear, but
> > > with the boost set to 1 bar, and it pretty much holds 13 ~ 15
> PSI all the time.
> > >
> > > I noticed that even if I just punch it to 120 or 130 on the
> highway, and I am
> > > already at 1000 degrees Celsius, which does not make any
> sense.  Looking back
> > > through some older posts, it seems that 950 degrees Celsius
> is eminent meltdown in
> > > a few seconds.  Could the readings be wrong, because I have
> even done 169 mph, in
> > > which I was on the throttle for probably about 90 seconds, as
> I had a stretch of
> > > open road of about 5 miles, and I was doing over 100 mph when
> I started the
> > > straight away.  However, at the time, I did not have the EGT
> gauge working, but I
> > > wonder what those temperatures were, if short bursts of 10
> seconds gets the
> > > temperatures above 1000 degrees Celsius.  As a little side
> note, my brother also
> > > installed the same setup of mods including an EGT gauge at
> the same time with me,
> > > and he is also getting high readings, but not as high as me.
> He has also seen his
> > > EGT temps around 975 @ about 135 mph, which is still
> unacceptably high.  One other
> > > thing to keep in mind, on my car, I have a dying clutch
> (hoping to get the RPS
> > > stage 2 soon), which if I am not careful, slips a lot under
> full load with the
> > > boost on.  Could a slipping clutch with the boost on cause
> such high EGT temps???
> > > Lots of questions, hoping for lots of answers.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks a million everybody,
> > >
> > > John Raicu
> > > 94 Yellow TT
> > >
> > > &
> > > Mihai Raicu
> > > 95 Red VR-4

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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 22:35:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@speedracer.speedtoys.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: SUPER HIGH EGT Temperatures!!!

I would doubt the stock injectors are running so rich at 15psi as to have
excess fuel to consume in the headers...IMHO.  You gotta be running pretty
fat to do that.

On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Barry E. King wrote:

> Ten inches from the flame front is probably the most useful reading.
>
> As to high EGTs, combustion in the header will lead to excessively high EGTs
> not representative of ping.  This can happen when the timing and mixture is
> such that the charge is either still burning significantly when the exhaust
> valve opens or that excess fuel burns in the header since the header is
> damned hot.
>
> Or it could be you are so friggin' lean that the pistons are about to
> melt-down.  Take your pick.
>
> Very high EGT readings are not uncommon in todays lean-burn cruising-mode
> programmed ECUs.  I'd be more concerned about sustained WOT under load EGT
> readings.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Barry
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
> > [mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Mark Hindelang
> > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 9:28 PM
> > To: Geoff Mohler; Team3S; Stealth Net
> > Subject: Team3S: SUPER HIGH EGT Temperatures!!!
> >
> >
> > that leads me to another question... where is the best place to install
> > the heat sensor
> > on the exhaust system?
> >
> >
> >
> > Geoff Mohler wrote:
> > >
> > > What turbo you on?
> > >
> > > You could be going lean at 15psi under those loads to reach 1000+.
> > >
> > > On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Mihai Raicu wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello everyone,
> > > >
> > > > I have recently hooked up an EGT gauge that I drilled and
> > inserted in the front
> > > > manifold, between cylinder 1 and 2, if I remember correctly.
> > I have had an Apexi
> > > > AVC-R with a K&N air filter installed for the past 6 months.
> > Right before the
> > > > upgrade, I did the 120K tune-up, although the car only had
> > 65K miles on it.  I
> > > > gapped the plugs at .34 (I think), whatever everybody
> > recommended.  The boost is
> > > > great, I cannot complain about anything, except for the EGT gauge...
> > > >
> > > > Here is a list of scenarios that I noticed, and those that
> > have EGT gauge, tell me
> > > > if these are weird...
> > > > 1. 825 ~ 850 degrees Celsius -- Cruising at 80 mph in
> > anything from 3rd gear to 6th
> > > > gear with boost controller off or on.
> > > > 2. 880 degrees Celsius -- going from 70 mph to 150 mph,
> > redlining every gear, but
> > > > the catch is with the boost off, that means about 5 ~ 7 PSI
> > of boost, boy does it
> > > > take a long time to get there
> > > > 3. 1030 degrees Celsius -- going from 70 mph to 150 mph,
> > redlining every gear, but
> > > > with the boost set to 1 bar, and it pretty much holds 13 ~ 15
> > PSI all the time.
> > > >
> > > > I noticed that even if I just punch it to 120 or 130 on the
> > highway, and I am
> > > > already at 1000 degrees Celsius, which does not make any
> > sense.  Looking back
> > > > through some older posts, it seems that 950 degrees Celsius
> > is eminent meltdown in
> > > > a few seconds.  Could the readings be wrong, because I have
> > even done 169 mph, in
> > > > which I was on the throttle for probably about 90 seconds, as
> > I had a stretch of
> > > > open road of about 5 miles, and I was doing over 100 mph when
> > I started the
> > > > straight away.  However, at the time, I did not have the EGT
> > gauge working, but I
> > > > wonder what those temperatures were, if short bursts of 10
> > seconds gets the
> > > > temperatures above 1000 degrees Celsius.  As a little side
> > note, my brother also
> > > > installed the same setup of mods including an EGT gauge at
> > the same time with me,
> > > > and he is also getting high readings, but not as high as me.
> > He has also seen his
> > > > EGT temps around 975 @ about 135 mph, which is still
> > unacceptably high.  One other
> > > > thing to keep in mind, on my car, I have a dying clutch
> > (hoping to get the RPS
> > > > stage 2 soon), which if I am not careful, slips a lot under
> > full load with the
> > > > boost on.  Could a slipping clutch with the boost on cause
> > such high EGT temps???
> > > > Lots of questions, hoping for lots of answers.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks a million everybody,
> > > >
> > > > John Raicu
> > > > 94 Yellow TT
> > > >
> > > > &
> > > > Mihai Raicu
> > > > 95 Red VR-4

- ---
Geoff Mohler <gemohler@speedtoys.com
California, USA

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Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 22:40:00 -0700
From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: SUPER HIGH EGT Temperatures!!!

Understod.  Unless, of course, something is wrong.  If we are to believe
these numbers, I would think something is wrong.  1000C is like 1800F or so.
1650F is about the most I want to see for any length of time, although peaks
of 1800F are probably not too horrible.  Still a tad hot for my tastes.
EGTs alone really don't mean a whole lot unfortunately.

We need a display that shows actual timing and knock at all times, in
additon to the stuff we already have.  I have a design for the timing
monitor if someone wants to try and build it, although I retain the rights.
<grin>  All you need is some signal conditioning for the crank trigger and a
fast enough PIC, a few hundred lines of code or so and a way to display the
results.


Barry

> -----Original Message-----
>
> I would doubt the stock injectors are running so rich at 15psi as to have
> excess fuel to consume in the headers...IMHO.  You gotta be running pretty
> fat to do that.
>
> On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Barry E. King wrote:
>
> > Ten inches from the flame front is probably the most useful reading.
> >
> > As to high EGTs, combustion in the header will lead to
> excessively high EGTs
> > not representative of ping.  This can happen when the timing
> and mixture is
> > such that the charge is either still burning significantly when
> the exhaust
> > valve opens or that excess fuel burns in the header since the header is
> > damned hot.
> >
> > Or it could be you are so friggin' lean that the pistons are about to
> > melt-down.  Take your pick.
> >
> > Very high EGT readings are not uncommon in todays lean-burn
> cruising-mode
> > programmed ECUs.  I'd be more concerned about sustained WOT
> under load EGT
> > readings.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Barry
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
> > > [mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Mark Hindelang
> > > Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 9:28 PM
> > > To: Geoff Mohler; Team3S; Stealth Net
> > > Subject: Team3S: SUPER HIGH EGT Temperatures!!!
> > >
> > >
> > > that leads me to another question... where is the best place
> to install
> > > the heat sensor
> > > on the exhaust system?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Geoff Mohler wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What turbo you on?
> > > >
> > > > You could be going lean at 15psi under those loads to reach 1000+.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Mihai Raicu wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello everyone,
> > > > >
> > > > > I have recently hooked up an EGT gauge that I drilled and
> > > inserted in the front
> > > > > manifold, between cylinder 1 and 2, if I remember correctly.
> > > I have had an Apexi
> > > > > AVC-R with a K&N air filter installed for the past 6 months.
> > > Right before the
> > > > > upgrade, I did the 120K tune-up, although the car only had
> > > 65K miles on it.  I
> > > > > gapped the plugs at .34 (I think), whatever everybody
> > > recommended.  The boost is
> > > > > great, I cannot complain about anything, except for the
> EGT gauge...
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is a list of scenarios that I noticed, and those that
> > > have EGT gauge, tell me
> > > > > if these are weird...
> > > > > 1. 825 ~ 850 degrees Celsius -- Cruising at 80 mph in
> > > anything from 3rd gear to 6th
> > > > > gear with boost controller off or on.
> > > > > 2. 880 degrees Celsius -- going from 70 mph to 150 mph,
> > > redlining every gear, but
> > > > > the catch is with the boost off, that means about 5 ~ 7 PSI
> > > of boost, boy does it
> > > > > take a long time to get there
> > > > > 3. 1030 degrees Celsius -- going from 70 mph to 150 mph,
> > > redlining every gear, but
> > > > > with the boost set to 1 bar, and it pretty much holds 13 ~ 15
> > > PSI all the time.
> > > > >
> > > > > I noticed that even if I just punch it to 120 or 130 on the
> > > highway, and I am
> > > > > already at 1000 degrees Celsius, which does not make any
> > > sense.  Looking back
> > > > > through some older posts, it seems that 950 degrees Celsius
> > > is eminent meltdown in
> > > > > a few seconds.  Could the readings be wrong, because I have
> > > even done 169 mph, in
> > > > > which I was on the throttle for probably about 90 seconds, as
> > > I had a stretch of
> > > > > open road of about 5 miles, and I was doing over 100 mph when
> > > I started the
> > > > > straight away.  However, at the time, I did not have the EGT
> > > gauge working, but I
> > > > > wonder what those temperatures were, if short bursts of 10
> > > seconds gets the
> > > > > temperatures above 1000 degrees Celsius.  As a little side
> > > note, my brother also
> > > > > installed the same setup of mods including an EGT gauge at
> > > the same time with me,
> > > > > and he is also getting high readings, but not as high as me.
> > > He has also seen his
> > > > > EGT temps around 975 @ about 135 mph, which is still
> > > unacceptably high.  One other
> > > > > thing to keep in mind, on my car, I have a dying clutch
> > > (hoping to get the RPS
> > > > > stage 2 soon), which if I am not careful, slips a lot under
> > > full load with the
> > > > > boost on.  Could a slipping clutch with the boost on cause
> > > such high EGT temps???
> > > > > Lots of questions, hoping for lots of answers.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks a million everybody,
> > > > >
> > > > > John Raicu
> > > > > 94 Yellow TT
> > > > >
> > > > > &
> > > > > Mihai Raicu
> > > > > 95 Red VR-4

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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 04:08:10 -0400
From: "Wayne Bonnett" <wayne@skydiveky.com>
Subject: Team3S: Performance mods for a 97 3KGT base model

Hello all!

This is my first post to the group since joining a couple of days ago.  I've
recently purchased a 97 3KGT base (SOHC) model with 34k miles.  I'm looking
for suggestions on performance mods.  My first step will be a new intake.
I'm having trouble deciding on the K&N filtercharger injection performance
kit, or the Stillen intake.  Any thoughts on these items?

What should my next steps for enhancing my performance?  What is the cost
for such mods?  Where can I find these items?

I'm looking forward to a lenghty relationship with my new pride and joy!
She's one heck of a machine, and I'm sure I'll have more questions and
hopefully some answers for the group.

Thanks for your time,
Wayne Bonnett

p.s. you can reply to the list, contact me via e-mail, or both  :)



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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 06:22:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Lucius <stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: brake question

Andrzej asked how to improve the brakes on his car, not how to best
spend his money. The path to braking improvement is well documented
and straight forward. I go into a bit of detail on my upgrade web
page at the link below.

http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius2/j2-2-brakeupgrade.htm

Briefly, the following steps (in order) should be considered when
improving your braking system.
1. Improved brake cooling.
2. High-performance brake fluid.
3. Steel braided brake lines.
4. High-performance brake pads.
5. Larger rotors and better calipers.
6. Master cylinder.

Underlying all of the above, is friction and heat management.

1) Rich Merrit and some others have nicely documented how to improve
brake cooling. The stock brakes work great with good pads if they
stay cool.
2) Brake fluid is cheap and easy.
3) Steel lines improve **feel** but don't help performance much. They
do provide a small safety margin against abrasion. This is an item
that as Richard suggests could be bypassed if money is tight.
4) Pads, while not particularly cheap, are easy and one of the best
items to upgrade. Selection has to be made based on the car's
intended use though.
5) Better rotors and calipers are a must for track use, but not
cheap.
6) There are no choices for a better master cylinder that I know of.
Someone let us know if there is.

Of course, what actually STOPS THE CAR is the interface between tire
and road. Excellent tires are absolutely required for great braking.
Fortunately, Andrzej is already running Potenza SO-2 tires, one of
the best tires around.

Jeff Lucius, www.stealth316.com

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard" <radanc@home.com>
To: "Jeff Lucius" <stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Cc: <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: brake question

I am not sure getting steel lines for his particular car given his
question would be most judicious $$ usage.

Rich

Jeff Lucius wrote:
>
> Dollars in $US.
>
> 1) Change your brake fluid (try Ate 200 @ $8.50/liter)
> 2) Add SS brake lines (~$200)
> 3) Get some Kevlar-blend pads (~$250)
> or maybe just
> 4) Stickier tires (~$150/tire for Nitto 555 or similar)
>
> More details on brake stuff at my web page below.
>
> http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius2/j2-2-brakeupgrade.htm
>
> Jeff Lucius, www.stealth316.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrzej Artymowicz" <andrzej.artymowicz@wp.pl>
> To: "3000GT list" <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2001 1:08 PM
> Subject: Team3S: brake question
>
> Hello!
>
> I'm driving '95 Base, 225/55/16 (sorry no ABS... :(  3000GT  just
for
> month. I'm very happy but I have question: How to improve brakes in
> my car, without spending too much cash? (<$600).
>
> Thanks for support regards
>
> Andrzej Artymowicz
> andrzej.artymowicz@wp.pl
> Poland
> tel. +48 601 250368 C
> tel. +48 22 6715375 H
>
> '95 Pearl Green 3000GT (NA, DOHC, 5-speed) 40000mi

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Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:05:53 +0200
From: "Roger Gerl \(RTEC\)" <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: "boost-a-spark"

I had the B&M New Volt on the car and the problems stayed the same with a
gap of 0.034. On the dyno there was zero difference with or without it. The
HKS is the same as well as Bells' spark boostie does the same. Nothign helps
as our coils are as weak as the power transistors are. Also the MSD DIS
didn't helped at all with any platinum plug. They may help with some coppers
but this is not yet proven. They may also help with iridiums as they do not
work well with the stock stuff (spark blow out)

Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch

> Does anyone have any experience with these devices that amplify the
> voltage going to the coils - like the Kenne Bell Boost-a-spark or B&M
> Racing New Volt Power Unit? From the circuit diagram, it looks like
> we have a separate wire going to each coil. So I figure it would take
> 3 of these units for our setup. I would guess they install after the
> power transistor. From reports here it looks like coil replacement
> options like the MDS systems really don't make that much difference.
> So maybe helping the stock coils would be better. Any thoughts? Other
alternatives?

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