team3s             Friday, March 30 2001             Volume 01 : Number 449




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Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:18:28 -0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@speedracer.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Brake Fluid Recirculator

Actually, Im installing such a system on my Celica AllTrac soon.

Its not new science, just costly.  With the metering valves ther eis a
slight possibility of the pads hanging on the rotors very slightly, and
theres always the idea of KISS being lost in the design of yourbraking
system.

Race car...do it.  Street car..the complication added to the system could
end up being more of a headache than its worth.

On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, Steve Lasher wrote:

> I was poking around on the web and came across this device from a
> company called DPI Racing.  Has anyone seen/used one of these before?
> It evidently recirculates (and filters & bleeds) brake fluid from the
> master cylinder to the caliper with every push of the brake pedal.
> There are several models, mostly designed for Tilton type racing master
> cylinders & calipers, but I'm sure one can be plumbed into any system.
> The dual master cylinder model can be seen here:
>
> http://www.dpiracingproducts.com/brake1.htm
>
> It looks like the fluid is recirculated via the caliper bleeder valve,
> so this unit would have to be plumbed in somewhere along the brake
> pressure line (since it probably won't fit our master mylinder), then
> another line fitted from the bleeder screw back to the unit.
>
> Is this something that would be worthwhile?  I'm thinking anything that
> puts cooler fluid into the caliper would help - maybe even put a heat
> sink in the return line?  Or is this a waste of time?  Thoughts?
> -Steve Lasher
> '92 VR-4
>
>
>
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- ---
Geoff Mohler <gemohler@speedtoys.com
California, USA

I own a lotta cars.  But in the best interests of not having to continualy
edit this file to meet the needs of eight specific lists, and no to awaken the
idiots within others who think -thier- cars are the best and Im a fool for
having anything -but- thier kind of car..I have not listed them.  If Im on
the list you are reading..I have one.


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Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 13:43:06 EST
From: StealthCT@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Rims

I have a 1994 TT with stock 17" rims.  Has anyone taken the time to weight one of these rims?  Additionally I am thinking about replacing them with a three piece racing rim that could be used on the street as well as the track.  Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated.  Regards  Charles

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Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:32:01 +1000
From: M.Korsinczky@mailbox.uq.edu.au
Subject: Team3S: volk rims

Hi all

Does anyone have for sale two 18"x 8 front rims in the volk racing
challenge F-zero style.

Michael

black 440hp 1992 VR4


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Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:30:11 EST
From: TrAmSoOtRu@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: List help..

Hey guys..

Well.. I've moved on from the Stealth to a new WS6 TransAm, so I need to get
off the list.. I've tried twice via the prescribed way to no avail.. So,
maybe Someone can help me :)

On the other hand.. it's been a blast and you guys have been a tremendous
amount of help...

Thanks

Jeff

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Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:09:50 -0700
From: Wayne <whietala@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Rims

At 11:43 AM 3/29/01 , StealthCT@aol.com wrote:
>I have a 1994 TT with stock 17" rims.  Has anyone taken the time to weight
>one of these rims?


28lbs without tire




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Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:55:17 -0800
From: Mihai Raicu <aa2345@wayne.edu>
Subject: Team3S: RPS CLUTCH???

Hello,

Bellow is my previous message in regards to a clutch.  I finally made up
my mind in getting an RPS clutch, either stage 2 or 3.  Can anybody
point me in the right direction to which one?  Also, would I need
anything else that might not be included in the RPS package?  Thanks in
advance.


John Raicu
94 Yellow TT.

>>Hello guys,
>>
>>I was just wondering if anybody has any other clutch other than stock
and how
>>you like it.  I am in search for a new clutch...
>>
>>The more I drive my car, the worse the clutch (OEM) is getting.  I
have the
>>APEXI AVC-R at the moment, but I am anticipating going all out in the
next
>>year with bigger turbos, injectors, fuel stuff, exhaust, etc... which
would
>>probably put me in the 500 HP range or more.  I am a pretty aggresive
driver,
>>and thus I want a clutch that will hold all the power that my car will
soon
>>have.  I already made up my mind that I do not want a stock (OEM)
clutch, so
>>I am asking you which clutch would you recommend that would still be
street
>>driveable, hold more than 500 HP, and is reasonably priced (under
$700).
>>Should I also consider heavier pressure plates???
>>
>>Thanks in advance...
>>
>>John Raicu
>>94 Yellow TT


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Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:57:48 -0500
From: Mihai Raicu <aa2345@wayne.edu>
Subject: Team3S: RPS CLUTCH???

Hello,

Bellow is my previous message in regards to a clutch.  I finally made up

my mind in getting an RPS clutch, either stage 2 or 3.  Can anybody
point me in the right direction to which one?  Also, would I need
anything else that might not be included in the RPS package?  Thanks in
advance.


John Raicu
94 Yellow TT.

>>Hello guys,
>>
>>I was just wondering if anybody has any other clutch other than stock
and how
>>you like it.  I am in search for a new clutch...
>>
>>The more I drive my car, the worse the clutch (OEM) is getting.  I
have the
>>APEXI AVC-R at the moment, but I am anticipating going all out in the
next
>>year with bigger turbos, injectors, fuel stuff, exhaust, etc... which
would
>>probably put me in the 500 HP range or more.  I am a pretty aggresive
driver,
>>and thus I want a clutch that will hold all the power that my car will
soon
>>have.  I already made up my mind that I do not want a stock (OEM)
clutch, so
>>I am asking you which clutch would you recommend that would still be
street
>>driveable, hold more than 500 HP, and is reasonably priced (under
$700).
>>Should I also consider heavier pressure plates???
>>
>>Thanks in advance...
>>
>>John Raicu
>>94 Yellow TT





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Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 00:11:37 -0500
From: "Lab Rat" <labrat101@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: RPS CLUTCH???

Make sure you get a new throwout bearing too. Consider new seals for the
axles.

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Mihai Raicu
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 10:58 PM
To: mi3si@yahoogroups.com; Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Cc: aa2345@wayne.edu
Subject: Team3S: RPS CLUTCH???


Hello,

Bellow is my previous message in regards to a clutch.  I finally made up

my mind in getting an RPS clutch, either stage 2 or 3.  Can anybody
point me in the right direction to which one?  Also, would I need
anything else that might not be included in the RPS package?  Thanks in
advance.


John Raicu
94 Yellow TT.

>>Hello guys,
>>
>>I was just wondering if anybody has any other clutch other than stock
and how
>>you like it.  I am in search for a new clutch...
>>
>>The more I drive my car, the worse the clutch (OEM) is getting.  I
have the
>>APEXI AVC-R at the moment, but I am anticipating going all out in the
next
>>year with bigger turbos, injectors, fuel stuff, exhaust, etc... which
would
>>probably put me in the 500 HP range or more.  I am a pretty aggresive
driver,
>>and thus I want a clutch that will hold all the power that my car will
soon
>>have.  I already made up my mind that I do not want a stock (OEM)
clutch, so
>>I am asking you which clutch would you recommend that would still be
street
>>driveable, hold more than 500 HP, and is reasonably priced (under
$700).
>>Should I also consider heavier pressure plates???
>>
>>Thanks in advance...
>>
>>John Raicu
>>94 Yellow TT



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Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 23:17:31 -0600
From: "Brad Bedell" <bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: RPS CLUTCH???

Make sure you buy the clutch from a place who also does installs and have
them install it.  That way, if it blows up you're not out multiple install
money.


Brad
Check out my home page: http://home.austin.rr.com/overboost/
E-Mail: bbedell@austin.rr.com ICQ#  3612682


- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Lab Rat
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 11:12 PM
To: Mihai Raicu; mi3si@yahoogroups.com; Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: RE: Team3S: RPS CLUTCH???

Make sure you get a new throwout bearing too. Consider new seals for the
axles.

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Mihai Raicu
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 10:58 PM
To: mi3si@yahoogroups.com; Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Cc: aa2345@wayne.edu
Subject: Team3S: RPS CLUTCH???


Hello,

Bellow is my previous message in regards to a clutch.  I finally made up

my mind in getting an RPS clutch, either stage 2 or 3.  Can anybody
point me in the right direction to which one?  Also, would I need
anything else that might not be included in the RPS package?  Thanks in
advance.


John Raicu
94 Yellow TT.

>>Hello guys,
>>
>>I was just wondering if anybody has any other clutch other than stock
and how
>>you like it.  I am in search for a new clutch...
>>
>>The more I drive my car, the worse the clutch (OEM) is getting.  I
have the
>>APEXI AVC-R at the moment, but I am anticipating going all out in the
next
>>year with bigger turbos, injectors, fuel stuff, exhaust, etc... which
would
>>probably put me in the 500 HP range or more.  I am a pretty aggresive
driver,
>>and thus I want a clutch that will hold all the power that my car will
soon
>>have.  I already made up my mind that I do not want a stock (OEM)
clutch, so
>>I am asking you which clutch would you recommend that would still be
street
>>driveable, hold more than 500 HP, and is reasonably priced (under
$700).
>>Should I also consider heavier pressure plates???
>>
>>Thanks in advance...
>>
>>John Raicu
>>94 Yellow TT





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Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:53:37 +0700
From: "CV. Duta Karya Teknik" <dutakt@sby.centrin.net.id>
Subject: Team3S: NEED INFO

Hi Guys,

My Mitsu rpm engine is high (1000 rpm) at idle and I got the information
that I should check fast idle air valve (FIAV) but I donot know the exactly
location on throttle body.
If anybodies know where is it, please let me know.
FYI, I have checked BISS, IAC, IPS, Idle Switch, cleaned carbon deposits
inside throttle body and setting the ignition timing at 5 deg. BTDC, but the
rpm is still high. I would the idle rpm should be at 750 rpm.
Should the car run stiffly if fuel injectors dirty or clogged, because
almost 10 years the injectors never be cleaned.
Thanks for your kindly information for above.

Regards,
90GTI16V


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Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:01:55 -0500
From: "Dusan Simovic" <dusanboy@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Team3S: TPS

Hello all,
I have been trying to buy a replacement TPS for my 92 base Stealth. I tried
ordering it from two different places, carparts.com and autobarn.com and
both places sent me the wrong part. I tried to argue this with them, but
they both say that part was listed as a matching part for my car. I really
don't think that I am looking at the wrong part, but just in case, does
anyone have a picture of their base model with the trunk open so I can see
if I am the dumbass or if there is a bigger problem here. Also, if no
picture, can someone explain where this part is located?

Thank you,
Dusan

'92 base Stealth



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Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 07:56:00 -0500
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject: Team3S: RE: Driver's seat in passenger side?

Well swapping the driver's and passenger's seat does not work.  The floor is
not actually flat but it angles (higher in the center and lower toward the
outside) so if you try to switch the seat then it is angled quite a bit
because of this offset.  Perhaps some spacers would do the trick.

It appears as though everything will work (the hand controls are not too
buried to still be useful, etc.) and the distance between the front mounting
points (15-1/2") and the rear mounting points (16-7/8") are the same on both
sides.  The only problem is that the seatbelt connector is on the opposite
side at first.  I did not see if this can be easily switched last night.  I
was just trying to see how well the race seat fits in the driver's position
(it fits well by the way).

The only advisable option would be to buy a driver's seat from a right-hand
drive car and install it properly.

For anyone taking notes ... these are 14mm nuts on the front of the seats
and 14mm bolts holding down the back.  There is one harness under the
passenger seat to unplug and there is a stock radio amplifier (on the 1995
VR-4 at least) under the passenger seat.  The driver's seat has two
harnesses plugged into the seat and one harness sitting idle.  There is
nothing under the driver's seat.  The passenger seat weighs 40 pounds and
the driver seat weighs 60 pounds.  The fiberglass race seat that is
replacing the driver seat weighs 16 pounds and with the harness will be
about 20 pounds total.

- --Flash!
dschilberg@pobox.com

3Si #577
1995 Black VR-4 w/ Big Reds, Autopower rollbar, Sparco Evo race seat,
Simpson 5-point harnesses, and a custom spark plug plate
http://www.team3s.com/FAQrollbar.htm

- -----Original Message-----
From: Schilberg, Darren
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 11:19 AM
To: Team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: Driver's seat in passenger side?

Since I will be installing a race seat in my driver's seat position I was
wondering how wide the stock driver's seat is from a VR-4 and if it will fit
where the passenger seat does or if the mounting points are all in the same
place.

I don't mind switching except that all the controls (forward/backward, tilt,
memory, etc.) are going to be on the inside (left-side) and won't allow a
hand down there to adjust anything.  Would it be possible to weld/fix
brackets onto the slider rails that will offset the seat a little to the
right and allow someone's hand down the left side to reach the controls?

My real goal was to get a driver's seat from a right-hand drive car (UK,
Australia/New Zealand, etc.) but I imagine these are expensive.  I think
I'll do a trial fit this weekend and see how difficult it would be.

- --Flash!
dschilberg@pobox.com

3Si #577
1995 Black VR-4 w/ Big Reds, Autopower rollbar, Sparco Evo race seat,
Simpson 5-point harnesses, and a custom spark plug plate
http://www.team3s.com/FAQrollbar.htm

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Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:16:49 +0200
From: Roger Gerl <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: TPS

>I have been trying to buy a replacement TPS for my 92 base Stealth.

Ok, TPS is throttle position server

>anyone have a picture of their base model with the trunk open so I can see

Trunk open ????? The TPS is at the throttle body on the engine ... and it
is not in teh trunk (at least not in my car)

>if I am the dumbass or if there is a bigger problem here. Also, if no
>picture, can someone explain where this part is located?

As described, when looking at the engine from the front, the intake on top
of the engine has an entry where the large rubber hose connects to. This is
the throttle body and infront of it the TPS is attached to.

Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch


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Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 15:32:23 +0100
From: Gordon Tyrrell <gordon.tyrrell@openet-int.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: RE: Driver's seat in passenger side?

If you want to do that I can source you a donor car here in Ireland and organise
the shipping from this end. Just let me know.
Just think. You'd have electric on both sides :)

"Schilberg, Darren" wrote:

> Well swapping the driver's and passenger's seat does not work.  The floor is
> not actually flat but it angles (higher in the center and lower toward the
> outside) so if you try to switch the seat then it is angled quite a bit
> because of this offset.  Perhaps some spacers would do the trick.
>
> It appears as though everything will work (the hand controls are not too
> buried to still be useful, etc.) and the distance between the front mounting
> points (15-1/2") and the rear mounting points (16-7/8") are the same on both
> sides.  The only problem is that the seatbelt connector is on the opposite
> side at first.  I did not see if this can be easily switched last night.  I
> was just trying to see how well the race seat fits in the driver's position
> (it fits well by the way).
>
> The only advisable option would be to buy a driver's seat from a right-hand
> drive car and install it properly.
>
> For anyone taking notes ... these are 14mm nuts on the front of the seats
> and 14mm bolts holding down the back.  There is one harness under the
> passenger seat to unplug and there is a stock radio amplifier (on the 1995
> VR-4 at least) under the passenger seat.  The driver's seat has two
> harnesses plugged into the seat and one harness sitting idle.  There is
> nothing under the driver's seat.  The passenger seat weighs 40 pounds and
> the driver seat weighs 60 pounds.  The fiberglass race seat that is
> replacing the driver seat weighs 16 pounds and with the harness will be
> about 20 pounds total.
>
> --Flash!
> dschilberg@pobox.com
>
> 3Si #577
> 1995 Black VR-4 w/ Big Reds, Autopower rollbar, Sparco Evo race seat,
> Simpson 5-point harnesses, and a custom spark plug plate
> http://www.team3s.com/FAQrollbar.htm


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Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:41:43 -0500
From: "Dusan Simovic" <dusanboy@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: TPS

Again, I meant HOOD... not trunk...



- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Gerl" <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
To: <Team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: TPS


>
> >I have been trying to buy a replacement TPS for my 92 base Stealth.
>
> Ok, TPS is throttle position server
>
> >anyone have a picture of their base model with the trunk open so I can
see
>
> Trunk open ????? The TPS is at the throttle body on the engine ... and it
> is not in teh trunk (at least not in my car)
>
> >if I am the dumbass or if there is a bigger problem here. Also, if no
> >picture, can someone explain where this part is located?
>
> As described, when looking at the engine from the front, the intake on top
> of the engine has an entry where the large rubber hose connects to. This
is
> the throttle body and infront of it the TPS is attached to.
>

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Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 09:51:48 -0500
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: RE: Driver's seat in passenger side?

... and since I don't smoke I was going to have you get the wiring harness
to the lumbar control so dual seats could have lumbar and side-wing
adjustment.  I would replace the cigarette lighter with this control since I
have another power outlet 12V spot for radar detector, phone charger, etc.

- --Flash!
dschilberg@pobox.com

3Si #577
1995 Black VR-4 w/ Big Reds, Autopower rollbar, Sparco Evo race seat,
Simpson 5-point harnesses, and a custom spark plug plate
http://www.team3s.com/FAQrollbar.htm

- -----Original Message-----
From: Gordon Tyrrell [mailto:gordon.tyrrell@openet-int.com]
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2001 9:32 AM
To: Schilberg, Darren
Cc: 'Team3s@stealth-3000gt.st'
Subject: Re: Team3S: RE: Driver's seat in passenger side?

If you want to do that I can source you a donor car here in Ireland and
organise
the shipping from this end. Just let me know.
Just think. You'd have electric on both sides :)


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Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 18:32:28 +0200
From: Roger Gerl <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: TPS

>Again, I meant HOOD... not trunk...

Makes more sense :)

> > Ok, TPS is throttle position server

Stupid myself : Throttle Position Sensor of course :)

Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch


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Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 12:24:19 -0500
From: "Dusan Simovic" <dusanboy@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Team3S: TPS part number

Could a kind soul out there look up the part number for TPS (throttle
position sensor), my VIN is

JB3XD44S1NY026459

'92 base stealth

Thank you!

Regards
Dusan


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