team3s
Thursday, March 29
2001 Volume 01
: Number
448
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Date:
Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:38:06 -0500
From: "Jeff VanOrsdal" <
jeffv@1nce.com>
Subject: Team3S: ECU
Capacitor failure?
Lately I've noticed an odd ticking coming from under
my dashboard and that
got me wondering. Do our engine computers suffer
from the same capacitor
failures as the DSM computers? I haven't
noticed had the power loss problem
yet, but I have had a bit of a rough
idle. Might these symptoms be
connected? Thanks.
Jeff
V.
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:33:12
-0500
From: "
ukyo@speedfactory.net" <
ukyo@speedfactory.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Car died after shift
List,
A little back ground
first:
I got my new BOV (TurboXS Type H) in and installed it
yesterday
afternoon. I took the car out for a test run.
Everything was great.
Awesome sound.
That was yesterday.
Today on the way to work I had a nice open
stretch of road to "blow out some
carbon deposits". So I was in 4th
at about 65 and punched it up to
right at 100. As I went to shift in
to 5th I heard the BOV vent (as it
should) but as I let the clutch
out I noticed the car was dead. No
power. I was basically rolling
at a touch under 100 with no power
brakes or steering. Luckily I was
out in front and there was no need
for quick stopping or evasive
manuvers. I coasted down a side street
near my job and popped the
clutch. The car cranked back up and I babied
it in to the parking
lot. I suspected the Y pipe was blown off. I
checked all of the
clamps on it, but they were snug. Now I have no idea
what happened.
I cranked the car back up. I revved it a few times and
it acted
fine. I hope it gets me home today... this car has no quams
with
leaving me walking. :(
Anyone have an idea on what to look
for with these symptoms? I'd
appreciate any help you can
offer!
- --Travis
'97 3000GT (Base + K&N FIPK sans Resonator
Bottle / Red)
'94 3000GT VR4 (K&N Air Charger, NGK-R Platinums @.035,
TurboXS BOV
Type H / Green)
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 11:53:49
-0600
From: "Eric Cheek" <
echeek@cox-internet.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Needed: Driver Door wiring harness
Thought I'd check the list and
see if anyone might happen to have a wiring
harness for the driver door that
would fit a '92 VR4. The part that I am
looking for is actually the part that
is connected to the door frame and not
the door itself. Some one at one point
in time installed an after market
alarm in this VR4, and used the wrong wire
connectors. It has caused the
wires to break off too short to be soldered.
(Door lock switch won't work
right now :(.. ) I've had the alarm
removed, and was going to have keyless
entry installed, but first I must find
this part and don't really want to
pay dealership cost's for it if I can help
it.
Thanks,
Eric C. 92 VR4
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 19:24:25
+0200
From: "Roger Gerl \(RTEC\)" <
roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: ECU Capacitor failure?
The early years ECUs should be checked
for that. My 93 has zero problems and
good capacitors.
> Lately
I've noticed an odd ticking coming from under my dashboard and that
> got
me wondering. Do our engine computers suffer from the same
capacitor
> failures as the DSM computers? I haven't noticed had the
power loss
problem
> yet, but I have had a bit of a rough idle.
Might these symptoms be
> connected?
No, you will have a bigger
problem when the caps go bad.
Roger
93'3000GT TT
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:44:42
-0600
From: "Basol, John" <
jbasol@Carlson.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Car died after shift
Travis,
Does this BOV vent to
atmosphere? If it does, Your car likely dies
because the MAS had
already counted the air the BOV blew to atmosphere
during your high speed/rpm
shift and the computer loaded the car up with too
much fuel. In a sense
it "flooded" your engine. No damage, just an
annoying side-effect of
vent to atmosphere BOVs on engines with MAS sensors.
Hope this
helps.
John Basol
'95 RT/TT
-----Original
Message-----
From:
ukyo@speedfactory.net
[SMTP:ukyo@speedfactory.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 11:33 AM
To:
team3s@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
Team3S: Car died after shift
List,
A little back ground
first:
I got my new BOV (TurboXS Type H) in and installed it
yesterday
afternoon. I took the car out for a test run.
Everything was
great.
Awesome sound.
That was yesterday.
Today on the way to work I had a nice open
stretch of road to "blow out some
carbon deposits". So I was in 4th
at about 65 and punched it up to
right at 100. As I went to shift
in
to 5th I heard the BOV vent (as
it should) but as I let the clutch
out I noticed the car was dead. No
power. I was basically rolling
at a touch under 100 with no power
brakes or steering. Luckily I
was
out in front and there was no need
for quick stopping or evasive
manuvers. I coasted down a side street
near my job and popped the
clutch. The car cranked back up and I babied
it in to the parking
lot. I suspected the Y pipe was blown off. I
checked all of the
clamps on it, but they were snug. Now I have no idea
what happened.
I cranked the car back up. I revved it a few times
and it acted
fine. I hope it gets me home today... this car has no
quams with
leaving me walking. :(
Anyone have an idea on what to
look for with these symptoms? I'd
appreciate any help you can
offer!
--Travis
'97 3000GT (Base + K&N FIPK sans Resonator Bottle
/ Red)
'94 3000GT VR4 (K&N Air Charger, NGK-R Platinums @.035,
TurboXS BOV
Type H / Green)
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:04:11
-0700
From: Wayne <
whietala@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Needed: Driver Door wiring harness
Eric,
You could try
soldering a short length of wire in between the two
ends.
Wayne
At 10:53 AM 3/28/01 , Eric Cheek
wrote:
> It has caused the wires to break off too short to be
soldered.
>
>
Thanks,
> Eric C. 92
VR4
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:55:36
-0800 (PST)
From: Oleg Malkin <
olegmalkin@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Unknown light on the panel
I have a '93 Dodge stealth base model.
I bought it
without a manual. If anyone has a manual or just knows
here is
a question:
Sometimes when I brake suddenly, I have a light
showing on
my panel. It looks like a greek building or
a brick, something like this:
III. When you let go
off the brake it dissapears. I know it is
probably
some stupid censor but it comes on more and more
often. What does
it
mean?
OLEG MALKIN
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 15:58:11
EST
From:
Merlin916@aol.comSubject: Re: Team3S:
Unknown light on the panel
Thats your coolant level indicator.
Youre low on coolant. It happens when
you break because the fluid
shifts and the sesor goes below a set mark. Fill
it up and youre
set.
Joe
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:07:59
-0500
From: "
ukyo@speedfactory.net" <
ukyo@speedfactory.net>
Subject:
Re: RE: Team3S: Car died after shift
John,
Yes, the BOV vents to
atmoshpere. I guess I should have taken that
in to consideration when I
was buying the BOV. :(
I thought the air return in the pipe was
just to keep the noise down.
I never thought it would lead to flooding
the car. Is there a way
around it, or should I start saving up for
another BOV? I don't want
to have to pop the clutch after every good
run to get moving again.
:(
- --Travis
'97 3000GT
'94
3000GT VR4
At Wed, 28 Mar 2001 12:44:42 -0600, you
wrote:
>Travis,
>Does this BOV vent to atmosphere? If it does,
Your car likely dies
>because the MAS had already counted the air the BOV
blew to
atmosphere
>during your high speed/rpm shift and the computer
loaded the car up
with too
>much fuel. In a sense it "flooded"
your engine. No damage, just an
>annoying side-effect of vent to
atmosphere BOVs on engines with MAS
sensors.
>
>Hope this
helps.
>
>John Basol
>'95 RT/TT
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 15:20:42
-0600
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <
mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject:
RE: RE: Team3S: Car died after shift
> I thought the air return in the
pipe was just to keep the noise down.
> I never thought it would
lead to flooding the car. Is there a way
> around it, or should I
start saving up for another BOV? I don't want
> to have to pop the
clutch after every good run to get moving again.
> :(
If it is
adjustable, you can tighten the spring so it doesn't release as
much air, but
that kinda defeats the purpose of having one in the first
place since it'll
spool down the turbos quicker with more pressure
resistance.
-
-Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:28:09
-0500
From: "Judson Smith" <
jsmith@fmbs.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Unknown light on the panel
cruise control light?
- ----- Original
Message -----
From: Oleg Malkin <
olegmalkin@yahoo.com>
To: <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Wednesday, March 28, 2001 3:55 PM
Subject: Team3S: Unknown light on the
panel
> I have a '93 Dodge stealth base model. I bought it
>
without a manual. If anyone has a manual or just knows
> here is a
question:
>
> Sometimes when I brake suddenly, I have a
light
> showing on my panel. It looks like a greek building or
> a
brick, something like this: III. When you let go
> off the brake it
dissapears. I know it is probably
> some stupid censor but it comes on
more and more
> often. What does it mean?
>
>
OLEG MALKIN
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 15:05:10
-0600
From: "Craig Golema" <
CGOLEMA@hobbico.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Unknown light on the panel
>>Sometimes when I brake
suddenly, I have a light
showing on my panel. It looks like a greek building
or
a brick, something like this: III.<<
Oleg,
It's
either your washer fluid low light or the coolant level. I can't remember. Check
them both .
Craig
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 17:21:09
-0500
From: "Dusan Simovic" <
dusanboy@ix.netcom.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Unknown light on the panel
nope, it's the coolant level
light, I get it when making sharp turns, or
braking hard...
92 base
Stealth
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Judson
Smith" <
jsmith@fmbs.com>
To: "Oleg
Malkin" <
olegmalkin@yahoo.com>;
<
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Wednesday, March 28, 2001 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Unknown light on the
panel
> cruise control light?
> ----- Original Message
-----
> From: Oleg Malkin <
olegmalkin@yahoo.com>
> To:
<
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 3:55 PM
> Subject: Team3S: Unknown light
on the panel
>
>
> > I have a '93 Dodge stealth base model.
I bought it
> > without a manual. If anyone has a manual or just
knows
> > here is a question:
> >
> > Sometimes when
I brake suddenly, I have a light
> > showing on my panel. It looks like
a greek building or
> > a brick, something like this: III. When
you let go
> > off the brake it dissapears. I know it is
probably
> > some stupid censor but it comes on more and more
>
> often. What does it mean?
> >
>
>
OLEG MALKIN
> >
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 16:57:59
-0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@speedracer.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Water assisted brake cooling.
This is for Merrit mostly...here
goes.
We debated spraying water to cool brakes.
We agreed that it
would be a huge volume of water to do this..so it had
drawbacks.
I
bought a large book to help me study performance brake design.
The way
the Indy/etc cars use this, is NOT to spray on the rotors.
You spray a
small volume at the center of the back of the rotor to COOL
the air, then the
cooler air passes thru the rotor fins. To spray is IN
the fins creates
steam, which insulates the cooling fins greatly.
So..the idea of water
cooling for a long(er) perdiod of time seems very
doable, with a much smaller
volume of water to carry around than you had
originally thought.
-
---
Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@speedtoys.com>
California, USA
I own a lotta cars. But in the best interests
of not having to continualy
edit this file to meet the needs of eight
specific lists, and no to awaken the
idiots within others who think -thier-
cars are the best and Im a fool for
having anything -but- thier kind of
car..I have not listed them. If Im on
the list you are reading..I have
one.
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Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2001 18:48:44
-0600
From: "Eric Cheek" <
echeek@cox-internet.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Unknown light on the panel
Its the window washer
fluid.
Eric C.
- -----Original Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of Craig Golema
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 3:05 PM
To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
Re: Team3S: Unknown light on the panel
>>Sometimes when I brake
suddenly, I have a light
showing on my panel. It looks like a greek building
or
a brick, something like this: III.<<
Oleg,
It's
either your washer fluid low light or the coolant level. I can't
remember.
Check them both .
Craig
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Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 06:43:23
-0800 (PST)
From: Jeff Lucius <
stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Dyna-Batt dry cell battery info
For those interested, I have made
a web page with info and pics
concerning the Dyna-Batt dry cell battery. I
can't start my car at
the moment (no fuel pump plus generally torn apart) so
it will be a
while before I can report how well this miniature electron
pusher
works.
Specs in brief:
- - totally-sealed, vibration
proof
- - can mount in any position
- - 16 Amp-hr capacity (3S stock spec
is 52 A-hr)
- - 600 cranking amps @ 45ºF
- - 13.5 lbs (easy to carry with
one hand)
- - 7" x 3" x 6.5"
- - standard 9/16" terminal posts
(removable)
http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius6/j6-2-dynabatt.htmJeff
Lucius,
www.stealth316.com__________________________________________________
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Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:12:53
-0500
From: Steve Lasher <
s_lasher@bellsouth.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Brake Fluid Recirculator
I was poking around on the web and came
across this device from a
company called DPI Racing. Has anyone
seen/used one of these before?
It evidently recirculates (and filters &
bleeds) brake fluid from the
master cylinder to the caliper with every push
of the brake pedal.
There are several models, mostly designed for Tilton type
racing master
cylinders & calipers, but I'm sure one can be plumbed into
any system.
The dual master cylinder model can be seen here:
http://www.dpiracingproducts.com/brake1.htmIt
looks like the fluid is recirculated via the caliper bleeder valve,
so this
unit would have to be plumbed in somewhere along the brake
pressure line
(since it probably won't fit our master mylinder), then
another line fitted
from the bleeder screw back to the unit.
Is this something that would be
worthwhile? I'm thinking anything that
puts cooler fluid into the
caliper would help - maybe even put a heat
sink in the return line? Or
is this a waste of time? Thoughts?
- -Steve Lasher
'92
VR-4
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