team3s Tuesday, March 27 2001 Volume 01 : Number 446

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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 21:47:36 -0800
From: Rich Fowler <richfowler2@home.com>
Subject: Team3S: New Member & New Motor

Hello Team3s:

My rebuild is finally complete on a 92 Stealth TT. I have the GT Pro Stage
IV with Swain Tech. ceramic coated pistons, ARC2, 720s, and GT Pro 357
Magnum turbos (plus all the typical mods). As soon as I get the ARC dialed
in, I will post a boost increments of 1 psi and when I encounter knock on
pump gas(92). I'm interested if the ceramic coated pistons actually help to
deter knock. So far I have 1000 miles on the rebuilt motor. I'm very
grateful to have found this list because I found the discussion on TPS
voltage and mine was .55 (thanks RG). I look forward to contributing.

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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 01:45:31 EST
From: TurboDrvn@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: New Member & New Motor

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Hello Rich,

Congratulations on your new motor, Rich. I remember when you pulled the
motor out on that Saturday morning after Thanksgiving. It was nice to have
met you.

Welcome to the Team3S list.........it's truly a valuable one.

Talk to you soon & best of luck,

Ahmed "AL-Crazy"

In a message dated 3/26/01 11:47:35 PM Central Standard Time,
richfowler2@home.com writes:

> Hello Team3s:
>
> My rebuild is finally complete on a 92 Stealth TT. I have the GT Pro Stage
> IV with Swain Tech. ceramic coated pistons, ARC2, 720s, and GT Pro 357
> Magnum turbos (plus all the typical mods). As soon as I get the ARC dialed
> in, I will post a boost increments of 1 psi and when I encounter knock on
> pump gas(92). I'm interested if the ceramic coated pistons actually help to
> deter knock. So far I have 1000 miles on the rebuilt motor. I'm very
> grateful to have found this list because I found the discussion on TPS
> voltage and mine was .55 (thanks RG). I look forward to contributing.
>

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<HTML>Hello Rich,
 
 Congratulations on your new motor, Rich.   I remember when you pulled the
 motor out on that Saturday morning after Thanksgiving.  It was nice to have
 met you.
 
 Welcome to the Team3S list.........it's truly a valuable one.
 
 Talk to you soon & best of luck,
 
 Ahmed "AL-Crazy"  
 
 In a message dated 3/26/01 11:47:35 PM Central Standard Time,
 richfowler2@home.com writes:
 
 
 <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Hello Team3s:
 
 My rebuild is finally complete on a 92 Stealth TT.  I have the GT Pro Stage
 IV with Swain Tech. ceramic coated pistons, ARC2, 720s, and GT Pro 357
 Magnum turbos (plus all the typical mods).  As soon as I get the ARC dialed
 in, I will post a boost increments of 1 psi and when I encounter knock on
 pump gas(92).  I'm interested if the ceramic coated pistons actually help to
 deter knock.  So far I have 1000 miles on the rebuilt motor.  I'm very
 grateful to have found this list because I found the discussion on TPS
 voltage and mine was .55 (thanks RG).  I look forward to contributing.
 </HTML>

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Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 22:52:54 -0800
From: "nwlink" <vlsgto@nwlink.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Battery and GT PRO Carbon Fiber Hood

Matt,

Probably have too many electronic stuff in my car - The super avc-r, afc and
the gauges plus the stereo system. Nevertheless, it does not hurt to have a
trickle charger by the side of the battery. It looks neat too. If u feel it
is not necessary, then that is fine too.

Julian Huang
94 Mitsubishi Veilside Tein TEC GTO tt
Team 3S
Seattle, Washington
vlsgto@nwlink.com
"Caution: You are about to enter a NO SPIN ZONE!"

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Jannusch, Matt
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 9:17 PM
To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: RE: Team3S: Battery and GT PRO Carbon Fiber Hood

> When u get the Odysessy (Predator) battery, be sure to also
> get a trickle charger from a local auto store. Unless you
> start the car every other day, the battery will die.

Haven't had any problems like that with my Odyssey battery. Starts every
time, even if left sitting for a few weeks even with alarm on and such.
Maybe your battery is defective, or something on your car is drawing extra
juice. ???

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 12:14:41 +0200
From: "H. Le Hir" <hlehir@lucent.com>
Subject: Team3S: Porterfield, Hawk, Motul Group Buy FRAUD???

Hi, the number 1-877-501-4282 is indeed disconnected

I've been given as well the number 214-575-5433, supposed to be a fax
machine.
This number is still connected, but there's no fax answering (but it might
be a fax on demand)

Can someone comfirm if they are legit, or if it's indeed a fraud.

In that case, better inform the credit card company ASAP

Best
Henri

>>Hi All,
>>I just called CTC to check on the order I placed for pads. I got a "the
number
>>you have dialed has been disconnected..."
>>The credit card charge went through today.
>>WHAT'S GOIN' ON HERE???

>>Has anyone heard from Kyle in the last few days?

>>John

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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 06:45:18 -0500
From: "Judson Smith" <jsmith@fmbs.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Porterfield, Hawk, Motul Group Buy FRAUD???

If it's any help, I work in the credit card processing business...fraud or
not, all you have to do is call your CC company and say the word
"chargeback". Problem solved.

- ----- Original Message -----
From: H. Le Hir <hlehir@lucent.com>
To: <owner-team3s@mail.stealth-3000gt.st>; <team3s@mail.stealth-3000gt.st>
Cc: <jtabler@summitmicro.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 5:14 AM
Subject: Team3S: Porterfield, Hawk, Motul Group Buy FRAUD???

> Hi, the number 1-877-501-4282 is indeed disconnected
>
> I've been given as well the number 214-575-5433, supposed to be a fax
> machine.
> This number is still connected, but there's no fax answering (but it might
> be a fax on demand)
>
> Can someone comfirm if they are legit, or if it's indeed a fraud.
>
> In that case, better inform the credit card company ASAP
>
> Best
> Henri
>
> >>Hi All,
> >>I just called CTC to check on the order I placed for pads. I got a "the
> number
> >>you have dialed has been disconnected..."
> >>The credit card charge went through today.
> >>WHAT'S GOIN' ON HERE???
>
> >>Has anyone heard from Kyle in the last few days?
>
> >>John
>
>
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>

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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 08:53:34 -0500
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Battery

So are you saying that if I get the Odyssey that it won't hold a charge for
one week in the winter? If so then I don't want it. Sure it is small and
light but at mid-400s CCA it doesn't seem like enough to turn it over in the
winter. For that security I would sacrifice the weight and size of the 875
CCA Optima battery.

Can anyone give some good evidence here? Matt? Anyone in cold-weather
climates with an Odyssey?

- --Flash!
dschilberg@pobox.com

3Si #577
1995 Black VR-4 w/ Big Reds, rollbar, harnesses, and a custom spark plug
plate
http://www.team3s.com/FAQrollbar.htm <http://www.team3s.com/FAQrollbar.htm>

- -----Original Message-----
From: nwlink [mailto:vlsgto@nwlink.com]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 7:54 PM
To: Schilberg, Darren; 'Merritt'; Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: Battery and GT PRO Carbon Fiber Hood

Darren and all,

When u get the Odysessy (Predator) battery, be sure to also get a trickle
charger from a local auto store. Unless you start the car every other day,
the battery will die. This happens more frequently when the weather is cold
out. Trickle charger costs only $25.

Enjoy!

Julian Huang
94 Mitsubishi Veilside Tein TEC GTO tt
01 Tweety Yellow Toyota Altezza
Team 3S
Seattle, Washington
vlsgto@nwlink.com
"Caution: You are about to enter a NO SPIN ZONE!"

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Schilberg, Darren
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 11:36 AM
To: 'Merritt'; Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: RE: Team3S: Need a battery

Rich,

I will be installing an Optima Red Top battery soon. I hear those are
smaller since the stock battery tie-down cable does not reach the smaller
battery. It isn't half-size but it is smaller. I would vote for the
"racing" battery (ones without the acid sloshing around and can be mounted
in any orientation - even upside down) since it is safer in the long run.

The Optima Red Top (they also have yellow top ones) have enough oomph for
several years of use. I did a search and here are the places in Iowa for
you (might want to search the neighboring states too) or just order and have
it shipped.

http://www.optimabatteries.com/main.htm
- - Optima Red Top Battery: 800S or 800U (not recommended for deep cycles)
- - Part number 8002-002
- - 800 CCA
- - 38 pounds

- - Optima Yellow Top Battery: 750S (recommended for deep cycles)
- - Part number 8012-021
- - 750 CCA
- - 43 pounds

Linch Auto Parts, Adel, Iowa
Arsen Auto Parts, Algona, Iowa
Interstate Batteries - Des Moines, Altoona, Iowa
Johnston Distributing - Big A, Ames, Iowa
Bedford Auto Supply, Bedford, Iowa
Iowa Auto and Machine, Carroll, Iowa
Batteries Plus, Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Chapman Auto Supply Center, Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Chapman Auto Supply S.E., Cedar Rapids, Iowa
Johnston Distributing - Big A, Centerville, Iowa
Brown's Auto Supply, Clarinda, Iowa
Cresco Machine Company, Cresco, Iowa
Creston Auto Parts, Creston, Iowa
City Auto Parts, Denison, Iowa
Batteries Patrol Incorporated, Des Moines, Iowa
Johnston Distributing, Des Moines, Iowa
Johnston Distributing - Big A, Des Moines, Iowa
Big A Auto Parts (Store B), Des Mooines, Iowa
Auto Mate of Forest City, Forest City, Iowa
Anderson Auto Parts, Glenwood, Iowa
Town and Country Parts, Guthrie Center, Iowa
Hawkeye Auto Parts, Harlan, Iowa
Interstate Batteries - Upper Iowa, Huxley, Iowa
Johnston Distributing Co., Johnston, Iowa
The Parts Stop, Kalona, Iowa
Wagner Auto Supply, Lemars, Iowa
Logan Auto Supply, Logan, Iowa
Collins Motor Supply, Mapleton, Iowa
Motor Parts Sales, Marcus, Iowa
Morgan's Auto Parts, Muscatine, Iowa
Schnack Auto Parts #2, Oakland, Iowa
Smith Auto Supply, Onawa, Iowa
Action Auto Supply, Orange City, Iowa
Bob's Auto Supply, Osceola, Iowa
K L Parts Inc., Pleasantville, Iowa
Red Oak Auto and Machine, Red Oak, Iowa
Jerry's Auto Parts, Rock Valley, Iowa
Iowa Automotive, Sac City, Iowa
Genuine Parts Co., Shenandoah, Iowa
Arrow Speed Warehouse - Sioux City, Sioux City, Iowa
Interstate Batteries - Sioux City, Sioux City, Iowa
G&G Auto Parts, Vinton, Iowa
Douglas Battery of Iowa, Waterloo, Iowa
Quality Auto, Webster City, Iowa
West Union Motor Supply, West Union, Iowa
Madison Auto Supply, Winterset, Iowa

I found a post from Mohler on the subject.

- --Flash!
dschilberg@pobox.com

3Si #577
1995 Black VR-4 w/ Big Reds, rollbar, harnesses, and a custom spark plug
plate
http://www.team3s.com/FAQrollbar.htm

- -----Original Message-----
From: Mohler, Jeff [mailto:jeff.mohler@netapp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 3:47 PM
Subject: RE: Battery for racing

Optima yellow-top battery. Wont leak, no acid, and can be run DRY hundreds
of times with no plate degridation.

Theres some photos of what I have right here:
http://www.speedtoys.com/~gemohler/jeep/install/

I have the same in the VR4, and my other cars.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Schilberg, Darren [mailto:DSchilberg@freemarkets.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 8:14 PM

Is there a good battery to use for road racing and street driving? A friend
suggested anything not acid-filled. Something like a gel cell. Any ideas
on which ones are good and where to get one?

- -----Original Message-----
From: Merritt [mailto:merritt@cedar-rapids.net]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 12:17 PM

The OEM battery in my 94 VR4 finally died this winter. It won't hold a
charge any longer.

Curt Gendron wants me install a half-size battery (from Walmart), so we'll
have room for the water injection tank that will be going in one of these
days. I'll probably do that unless I can find a way to mount a battery in
the back.

My question to the group is:
Has anyone successfully mounted a battery in the rear? Is there any short
battery that can fit back there in the plastic trays on either side of the
spare tire and still fit under the cardboard/carpet cover? Got a product
name and model number?

I suppose I could mount the battery on the floor behind the passenger seat,
but that restricts movement of the seat.

Any thoughts, anyone?

Rich/old poop/94 VR4

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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 05:55:00 -0800 (PST)
From: Jeff Lucius <stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Need a battery

The totally-sealed, dry-cell Dyna-Batt from Performance Distributors

http://www.performancedistributors.com/batteries.htm

is also about 480 CCA (about same as stock), weighs only **13.5**
lbs, and is only about 7"L x 3.5"W x 6"H (I don't have exact
measurements with me). It costs $155. I ordered one last week and
will mount it in the stock location to save the trouble of moving a
battery to the rear. I am hoping to find someone to mill nice looking
aluminum hold-down bars to attach it to the old battery tray or maybe
a new battery tray.

7x3.5x6 should leave plenty of room for more stuff in the old battery
space and save over 30 lbs of weight! :)

Jeff Lucius, www.stealth316.com

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
To: <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 12:51 PM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Need a battery

> I will be installing an Optima Red Top battery soon. I hear those
are
> smaller since the stock battery tie-down cable does not reach
> the smaller battery. It isn't half-size but it is smaller. I
would
> vote for the "racing" battery (ones without the acid sloshing
> around and can be mounted in any orientation - even upside down)
> since it is safer in the long run.

I'd recommend the Odyssey racing battery over the Optima products
hands-down for space saving applications. I have the PC925 which is
470 cold cranking amps. It is 6.5" wide, 7" long, and only 5" high.
Not only that, but the Optima weighs 38 pounds and the Odyssey (if I
remember correctly) is 26 pounds.

Haven't had any problems with mine, starts the car every time (even
in cold temps it isn't a problem), enough power to raise/lower the
convertible top with the motor off, etc.

$160

http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=534&prmenbr=76
&path=76%202379%202382%202680

Gel-cell batteries are still acid inside, so if you hit something
hard
enough to break it open you are still going to get acid strewn about.
The Odyssey is a dry-cell variant.

Not sure if 5" tall is short enough to fit in the rear storage bins -
I doubt it. I don't think you'll find many batteries shorter than 5"
tall though.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:01:34 -0600
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Battery

> So are you saying that if I get the Odyssey that it won't
> hold a charge for one week in the winter? If so then I
> don't want it. Sure it is small and light but at
> mid-400s CCA it doesn't seem like enough to turn it
> over in the winter.

The stock battery is big, but doesn't have huge CCA numbers - probably
400-500 CCA.

> Can anyone give some good evidence here? Matt? Anyone
> in cold-weather climates with an Odyssey?

I don't run the car on a daily basis in the cold or anything like that, but
last December after having it sit for a few weeks I fired it up to go to
Mark Wendlandt's place to swap in an ACT clutch on the car. It was about 5
degrees the morning I drove up there, and the battery worked fine starting
the car.

If for some reason a person wanted a REALLY small battery, I wonder if you
could get away with some of the higher-end motorcycle batteries, at least in
a warm-weather application.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:04:28 -0600
From: "Brad Bedell" <bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Porterfield, Hawk, Motul Group Buy FRAUD???

Those of you who got in on the group purchase please email me and I'll
forward the information to the guys responsible.

I know all of them personally, and I know that "fraud" is not the case here.

It's too early to contact them via phone (didn't answer) but I'll forward
personal contact information to those who respond to me once I get the
'okay' to do so.

Please forward this to the Starnet list, as I am not subscribed.

Brad
Check out my home page: http://home.austin.rr.com/overboost/
E-Mail: bbedell@austin.rr.com ICQ# 3612682

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Judson Smith
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 5:45 AM
To: hlehir@lucent.com; owner-team3s@mail.stealth-3000gt.st;
team3s@mail.stealth-3000gt.st
Cc: jtabler@summitmicro.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Porterfield, Hawk, Motul Group Buy FRAUD???

If it's any help, I work in the credit card processing business...fraud or
not, all you have to do is call your CC company and say the word
"chargeback". Problem solved.

- ----- Original Message -----
From: H. Le Hir <hlehir@lucent.com>
To: <owner-team3s@mail.stealth-3000gt.st>; <team3s@mail.stealth-3000gt.st>
Cc: <jtabler@summitmicro.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 5:14 AM
Subject: Team3S: Porterfield, Hawk, Motul Group Buy FRAUD???

> Hi, the number 1-877-501-4282 is indeed disconnected
>
> I've been given as well the number 214-575-5433, supposed to be a fax
> machine.
> This number is still connected, but there's no fax answering (but it might
> be a fax on demand)
>
> Can someone comfirm if they are legit, or if it's indeed a fraud.
>
> In that case, better inform the credit card company ASAP
>
> Best
> Henri
>
> >>Hi All,
> >>I just called CTC to check on the order I placed for pads. I got a "the
> number
> >>you have dialed has been disconnected..."
> >>The credit card charge went through today.
> >>WHAT'S GOIN' ON HERE???
>
> >>Has anyone heard from Kyle in the last few days?
>
> >>John
>
>
> *** Info: http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm ***
>

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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:03:11 -0600
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Need a battery

> The totally-sealed, dry-cell Dyna-Batt from Performance Distributors
>
> http://www.performancedistributors.com/batteries.htm

Wow! That looks like a great way to go. Make sure you let us know how it
works when you get it. :-) Sounds like the Odyssey in a better
form-factor.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 10:49:34 -0600
From: "Jeff" <spydervr4@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Porterfield, Hawk, Motul Group Buy FRAUD???

Sorry, they are in the process of moving to a new location, but I spoke with
Kyle at CTC yesterday (they are local to me) and they are still going
forward with the group buy. For everyone who has been contacted, their
orders will probably ship late this week, after they get all the pads boxed
up individually. Unfortunately the toll free lines didn't get transferred,
but if necessary, you can reach them at 214-575-7473.

jeff
'95 Mitsubishi Spyder VR-4
'95 Chevrolet K1500 Z71

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "H. Le Hir" <hlehir@lucent.com>
To: <owner-team3s@mail.stealth-3000gt.st>; <team3s@mail.stealth-3000gt.st>
Cc: <jtabler@summitmicro.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 4:14 AM
Subject: Team3S: Porterfield, Hawk, Motul Group Buy FRAUD???

> Hi, the number 1-877-501-4282 is indeed disconnected
>
> I've been given as well the number 214-575-5433, supposed to be a fax
> machine.
> This number is still connected, but there's no fax answering (but it might
> be a fax on demand)
>
> Can someone comfirm if they are legit, or if it's indeed a fraud.
>
> In that case, better inform the credit card company ASAP
>
> Best
> Henri
>
> >>Hi All,
> >>I just called CTC to check on the order I placed for pads. I got a "the
> number
> >>you have dialed has been disconnected..."
> >>The credit card charge went through today.
> >>WHAT'S GOIN' ON HERE???
>
> >>Has anyone heard from Kyle in the last few days?
>
> >>John
>
>
> *** Info: http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm ***

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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 09:32:41 -0800
From: "Dr. John A. Tabler" <jtabler@summitmicro.com>
Subject: Re: FW: Team3S: Porterfield, Hawk, Motul Group Buy FRAUD???

Le Hir,
Thanks, that was excellent information you provided.
I called Casey Rayman this morning as soon as I got your message. Here
is his story" CTC is moving locations and so everything is in
transition. Mr. Rayman claims that he has received the brake pads, an
that they will ship this week. There are hundreds of them, and they
need to be repackaged.

I just spoke with a manager at Porterfield. They did indeed ship a
large quantity of brake pads to CTC motorsports. They were shipped COD,
via UPS, "about 4 days ago".

I am inclined to believe that it was just poor judgment on the part of
CTC not to inform us that they would be moving, and that there is not
fraud here. I do, however, expect to receive the parts in a timely
manner, or I will dispute the charges.

I just received a telephone message from Kyle. I think everythink is okay
here. I won' be completely comfortable with this until I receive the parts.

Best Regards,
John

"H. Le Hir" wrote:

> Let me know if you can find something about them
>
> I have quite a large pending order with them, and indeed, they charged my
> card yesterday :-(
>
> Here's what I found so far
>
> Name : CTC Motorsports
> Phone : 1-877-501-4282 BUT NOW DISCONNECTED
> Fax : 214-575-5433 BUT NO ANSWER
>
> www.ctcmotorsports.com [64.13.69.180]
>
> registered to
>
> Casey Rayman (CTCMOTORSPORTS-DOM)
> PO BOX 836695
> Richardson, TX 75083-6695
> US
>
> Domain Name: CTCMOTORSPORTS.COM
>
> Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact:
> RAYMAN, CASEY (CR10641) theturbodog@YAHOO.COM
> GENERATION PERFORMANCE, INC.
> 13710 Floyd Circle
> Dallas, TX 75243
> 214-675-9829 (FAX) 972-870-5655
>
> Record last updated on 02-Mar-2001.
> Record expires on 01-Mar-2003.
> Record created on 01-Mar-2000.
> Database last updated on 26-Mar-2001 20:47:00 EST.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: H. Le Hir [mailto:hlehir@lucent.com]
> Sent: 27. mars 2001 12:15
> To: 'owner-team3s@mail.stealth-3000gt.st';
> 'team3s@mail.stealth-3000gt.st'
> Cc: 'jtabler@summitmicro.com'
> Subject: Team3S: Porterfield, Hawk, Motul Group Buy FRAUD???
> Importance: High
>
> Hi, the number 1-877-501-4282 is indeed disconnected
>
> I've been given as well the number 214-575-5433, supposed to be a fax
> machine.
> This number is still connected, but there's no fax answering (but it might
> be a fax on demand)
>
> Can someone comfirm if they are legit, or if it's indeed a fraud.
>
> In that case, better inform the credit card company ASAP
>
> Best
> Henri
>
> >>Hi All,
> >>I just called CTC to check on the order I placed for pads. I got a "the
> number
> >>you have dialed has been disconnected..."
> >>The credit card charge went through today.
> >>WHAT'S GOIN' ON HERE???
>
> >>Has anyone heard from Kyle in the last few days?
>
> >>John

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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 11:54:54 -0800
From: "Bob Forrest" <bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Team3S: Motul Group Buy - CTC Motorsports Info

Like John shows in his previous post, Casey's domain info is below for
all to see, including his email, etc. Having to move is a serious PITA,
so it's probably why he hasn't replied to the previous posts - he's a
Team3S member, too. It's unlikely that someone planning a scam is going
to join a list and give out personal information (which one of us Admins
verifies for EVERY prospective member, for the safety of the group).
When he touches base again, I'm sure he'll explain the delays to all of
you, either privately, or on the list. We've all had those bad weeks
when Murphy's Law kicks in...

Best,

Forrest

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Dr. John A. Tabler" <jtabler@summitmicro.com>
To: <hlehir@lucent.com>
Cc: "3000GT" <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>; <kyle@ctcmotorsports.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: FW: Team3S: Porterfield, Hawk, Motul Group Buy FRAUD???

> Le Hir,
> Thanks, that was excellent information you provided.
> I called Casey Rayman this morning as soon as I got your message.
Here
> is his story" CTC is moving locations and so everything is in
> transition. Mr. Rayman claims that he has received the brake pads, an
> that they will ship this week. There are hundreds of them, and they
> need to be repackaged.
>
> I just spoke with a manager at Porterfield. They did indeed ship a
> large quantity of brake pads to CTC motorsports. They were shipped
COD,
> via UPS, "about 4 days ago".
>
> I am inclined to believe that it was just poor judgment on the part of
> CTC not to inform us that they would be moving, and that there is not
> fraud here. I do, however, expect to receive the parts in a timely
> manner, or I will dispute the charges.
>
> I just received a telephone message from Kyle. I think everythink is
okay
> here. I won' be completely comfortable with this until I receive the
parts.
>
> Best Regards,
> John
>
> "H. Le Hir" wrote:
>
> > Let me know if you can find something about them
> >
> > I have quite a large pending order with them, and indeed, they
charged my
> > card yesterday :-(
> >
> > Here's what I found so far
> >
> > Name : CTC Motorsports
> > Phone : 1-877-501-4282 BUT NOW DISCONNECTED
> > Fax : 214-575-5433 BUT NO ANSWER
> >
> > www.ctcmotorsports.com [64.13.69.180]
> >
> > registered to
> >
> > Casey Rayman (CTCMOTORSPORTS-DOM)
> > PO BOX 836695
> > Richardson, TX 75083-6695
> > US
> >
> > Domain Name: CTCMOTORSPORTS.COM
> >
> > Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact:
> > RAYMAN, CASEY (CR10641) theturbodog@YAHOO.COM
> > GENERATION PERFORMANCE, INC.
> > 13710 Floyd Circle
> > Dallas, TX 75243
> > 214-675-9829 (FAX) 972-870-5655
> >
> > Record last updated on 02-Mar-2001.
> > Record expires on 01-Mar-2003.
> > Record created on 01-Mar-2000.
> > Database last updated on 26-Mar-2001 20:47:00 EST.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: H. Le Hir [mailto:hlehir@lucent.com]
> > Sent: 27. mars 2001 12:15
> > To: 'owner-team3s@mail.stealth-3000gt.st';
> > 'team3s@mail.stealth-3000gt.st'
> > Cc: 'jtabler@summitmicro.com'
> > Subject: Team3S: Porterfield, Hawk, Motul Group Buy FRAUD???
> > Importance: High
> >
> > Hi, the number 1-877-501-4282 is indeed disconnected
> >
> > I've been given as well the number 214-575-5433, supposed to be a
fax
> > machine.
> > This number is still connected, but there's no fax answering (but it
might
> > be a fax on demand)
> >
> > Can someone comfirm if they are legit, or if it's indeed a fraud.
> >
> > In that case, better inform the credit card company ASAP
> >
> > Best
> > Henri
> >
> > >>Hi All,
> > >>I just called CTC to check on the order I placed for pads. I got
a "the
> > number
> > >>you have dialed has been disconnected..."
> > >>The credit card charge went through today.
> > >>WHAT'S GOIN' ON HERE???
> >
> > >>Has anyone heard from Kyle in the last few days?
> >
> > >>John
>
>
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>

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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 23:05:20 +0200
From: Andrzej Artymowicz <arty@it.com.pl>
Subject: Team3S: ABS/TCL question

Is it possible to add ABS system and/or TCL to my '95 Base 3kGT?

regards

Andrzej Artymowicz
arty@it.com.pl
Poland
tel. +48 601 250368 C
tel. +48 22 6715375 H

'95 Pearl Green 3000GT (NA, DOHC, 5-speed) 40000mi

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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 16:27:03 -0500
From: "Jeff VanOrsdal" <jeffv@1nce.com>
Subject: Team3S: ABS/TCL Question

Possible? Remotely.
Practical? No.

You'd have to do one incredible hack job on the electrical harness to even
get the computer hardware in place. Figure in the control module inside the
car, the fluid pump in the engine bay, as well as all the other misc sensors
and relays, and you have a nightmare on your hands. Also figure that a new
OEM ABS pump runs $2500 and the control computer is in a similar price
range. Even used it won't be cheap. I just can't see it being that
worthwhile. If it makes you feel any better, I don't have ABS on my 91
Stealth ES. I did however bolt on the brakes from a 92 R/T Turbo. IMHO,
that improved my stopping power more than any ABS system would. Of course,
I'm somewhat biased against ABS :) Save your money and go with some form of
Big Brake upgrade. In addition to the turbo brakes I mentioned, many of the
aftermarket kits for the Mitsubishi Eclipse Turbo are direct bolt-ons for
the non-turbo 3/S.

As far as traction control goes, I'm not aware of it ever being an option on
the 3/S. I've seen aftermarket systems, but without knowing how they work,
I can't really comment on them. Perhaps someone else has experience with
those packages?

Good luck with your upgrades.

Jeff V.
jeffv@1nce.com

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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 22:50:18 +0100
From: Gordon Tyrrell <gordon.tyrrell@openet-int.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: ABS/TCL Question

There's a company in the UK that do a universal traction control system.
I had their email address and a review in a magazine on 2 cars that was very
positive.
Unfortunately I've also had about 3 pc's in various states since then and don't
have the web address. The magazine was one of the silly tuning ones like Max
Power or some rubbish. I only bought it for the article on the traction control
as I had a Japanese import MR2 Turbo at the time and was interested in anything
that would help me in the wet.

I'll do a search and see if I can find anything.

Gordon
Dublin, Ireland

Jeff VanOrsdal wrote:

> Possible? Remotely.
> Practical? No.
>
> You'd have to do one incredible hack job on the electrical harness to even
> get the computer hardware in place. Figure in the control module inside the
> car, the fluid pump in the engine bay, as well as all the other misc sensors
> and relays, and you have a nightmare on your hands. Also figure that a new
> OEM ABS pump runs $2500 and the control computer is in a similar price
> range. Even used it won't be cheap. I just can't see it being that
> worthwhile. If it makes you feel any better, I don't have ABS on my 91
> Stealth ES. I did however bolt on the brakes from a 92 R/T Turbo. IMHO,
> that improved my stopping power more than any ABS system would. Of course,
> I'm somewhat biased against ABS :) Save your money and go with some form of
> Big Brake upgrade. In addition to the turbo brakes I mentioned, many of the
> aftermarket kits for the Mitsubishi Eclipse Turbo are direct bolt-ons for
> the non-turbo 3/S.
>
> As far as traction control goes, I'm not aware of it ever being an option on
> the 3/S. I've seen aftermarket systems, but without knowing how they work,
> I can't really comment on them. Perhaps someone else has experience with
> those packages?
>
> Good luck with your upgrades.
>
> Jeff V.
> jeffv@1nce.com
>
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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 13:47:23 -0800
From: "Geddes, Brian J" <brian.j.geddes@intel.com>
Subject: Team3S: Glove box latch

All -

Well, the lock/opening mechanism on my VR4 has decided to stop working. I
seem to remember a thread not too terribly long ago that detailed a pretty
good procedure for repairing or replacing the opening mechanism ...anyone
still have this?

Thanks
- - Brian

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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 14:29:04 -0800
From: "Bob Forrest" <bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Glove box latch

- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geddes, Brian J"
<brian.j.geddes@intel.com>
> Well, the lock/opening mechanism on my VR4 has decided to stop
working. I
> seem to remember a thread not too terribly long ago that detailed a
pretty
> good procedure for repairing or replacing the opening mechanism
...anyone
> still have this?
> Thanks
> - Brian

That's what the Archive Pages are for... And the Search Page... Do a
search on the following (use the quotes):
"glove compartment" and "hacksaw" (I'm not kidding)

Or you can start on the archive page for Oct 1,2,3 of 2000...

Best,

Forrest

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Date: 27 Mar 2001 15:06:38 -0800
From: John Monnin <jkmonnin@altavista.com>
Subject: Team3S: Parting out a 91 Stealth twin-turbo

I was thinking about buying a 91 twin turbo stealth to part out. And I wanted the opinions of anyone who has done this on how much I could get for it. The dealer is asking $2800 for it.

20 miles from my house is a 1991 twin turbo stealth that rear ended an explorer and went under the bumper.
the hood and fenders are destroyed but the engine still runs. The car has 80,000 miles on it.

I want it for the transmission and I will part out everthing else, if I buy it.

What is everyone's opinion?

E-mail me privately.

Jkmonnin@altavista.com
John Monnin

Find the best deals on the web at AltaVista Shopping!
http://www.shopping.altavista.com

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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:24:23 -0600
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Parting out a 91 Stealth twin-turbo

Omigawd, what a fabulous open track car! If I didn't have one already, I'd
buy that sucker in a New York minute. Then I'd get in on the group hood buy
and order a plastic front end kit from one of the body companies (Erubi?).
With only 80K, it's just barely broke in.

Here's what I'd do: remove the tranny, stick it in your street car, and
then ship your broken tranny off somewhere to be repaired. While it's out,
fix the bodywork as described above. Gut it like Geoff did out in
California, and take out 1,000 lb. Sell the stereo, interior and other
parts on E-bay or to the group here. Install an Autopower roll bar ($500)
and racing seats ($500). Install Big Red brakes ($1300) and Ground Control
suspension ($400). With the weight off and all this good stuff, you'd be a
terror on the tracks even with a stock motor.

Where are you, anyway? Anywhere near Iowa?

Rich/old poop/94 VR4

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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 19:16:31 -0500
From: "Joshua Prince" <joshua@unconundrum.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Battery and GT PRO Carbon Fiber Hood

What does "SOON" mean? I think people who have purchased the hood deserve
to know a date. A slight "Hiccup" is a VAST understatement. They have been
promised for MONTHS now. I do not want to cause a flame war, and that is
not the reason for this email. I want to know when they are going to be
out. Dynamic Racing has told me, they also can not get a response from
Brian. So, all the places selling the hoods for GT Pro, now look bad cause
they can not tell their customers anything due to GT Pro not telling them
anything. I have always been behind Brian and GT Pro but at some point it
becomes ridiculous and absurd. Sorry if anyone is offended, but a bit
frustrated.

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "cody" <overclck@starband.net>
To: "Joshua G. Prince" <joshua@unconundrum.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 7:11 PM
Subject: FW: Team3S: Battery and GT PRO Carbon Fiber Hood

>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
> [mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of nwlink
> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 6:54 PM
> To: Schilberg, Darren; 'Merritt';
> Subject: Team3S: Battery and GT PRO Carbon Fiber Hood
>
>
> Darren and all,
>
> When u get the Odysessy (Predator) battery, be sure to also get a trickle
> charger from a local auto store. Unless you start the car every other day,
> the battery will die. This happens more frequently when the weather is
cold
> out. Trickle charger costs only $25.
>
> Regarding Brian's CF hood, I am sure all of you who ordered know that
there
> was a slight hiccup. Anyway, I am speaking on behalf of Brian and would
like
> the state that there was an internal problem and it has now been resolved.
> The hood should be ready soon.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Julian Huang
> 94 Mitsubishi Veilside Tein TEC GTO tt
> 01 Tweety Yellow Toyota Altezza
> Team 3S
> Seattle, Washington
> vlsgto@nwlink.com
> "Caution: You are about to enter a NO SPIN ZONE!"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
> [mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Schilberg, Darren
> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 11:36 AM
> To: 'Merritt'; Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
> Subject: RE: Team3S: Need a battery
>
>
> Rich,
>
> I will be installing an Optima Red Top battery soon. I hear those are
> smaller since the stock battery tie-down cable does not reach the smaller
> battery. It isn't half-size but it is smaller. I would vote for the
> "racing" battery (ones without the acid sloshing around and can be mounted
> in any orientation - even upside down) since it is safer in the long run.
>
> The Optima Red Top (they also have yellow top ones) have enough oomph for
> several years of use. I did a search and here are the places in Iowa for
> you (might want to search the neighboring states too) or just order and
have
> it shipped.
>
> http://www.optimabatteries.com/main.htm
> - Optima Red Top Battery: 800S or 800U (not recommended for deep cycles)
> - Part number 8002-002
> - 800 CCA
> - 38 pounds
>
> - Optima Yellow Top Battery: 750S (recommended for deep cycles)
> - Part number 8012-021
> - 750 CCA
> - 43 pounds
>
> Linch Auto Parts, Adel, Iowa
> Arsen Auto Parts, Algona, Iowa
> Interstate Batteries - Des Moines, Altoona, Iowa
> Johnston Distributing - Big A, Ames, Iowa
> Bedford Auto Supply, Bedford, Iowa
> Iowa Auto and Machine, Carroll, Iowa
> Batteries Plus, Cedar Rapids, Iowa
> Chapman Auto Supply Center, Cedar Rapids, Iowa
> Chapman Auto Supply S.E., Cedar Rapids, Iowa
> Johnston Distributing - Big A, Centerville, Iowa
> Brown's Auto Supply, Clarinda, Iowa
> Cresco Machine Company, Cresco, Iowa
> Creston Auto Parts, Creston, Iowa
> City Auto Parts, Denison, Iowa
> Batteries Patrol Incorporated, Des Moines, Iowa
> Johnston Distributing, Des Moines, Iowa
> Johnston Distributing - Big A, Des Moines, Iowa
> Big A Auto Parts (Store B), Des Mooines, Iowa
> Auto Mate of Forest City, Forest City, Iowa
> Anderson Auto Parts, Glenwood, Iowa
> Town and Country Parts, Guthrie Center, Iowa
> Hawkeye Auto Parts, Harlan, Iowa
> Interstate Batteries - Upper Iowa, Huxley, Iowa
> Johnston Distributing Co., Johnston, Iowa
> The Parts Stop, Kalona, Iowa
> Wagner Auto Supply, Lemars, Iowa
> Logan Auto Supply, Logan, Iowa
> Collins Motor Supply, Mapleton, Iowa
> Motor Parts Sales, Marcus, Iowa
> Morgan's Auto Parts, Muscatine, Iowa
> Schnack Auto Parts #2, Oakland, Iowa
> Smith Auto Supply, Onawa, Iowa
> Action Auto Supply, Orange City, Iowa
> Bob's Auto Supply, Osceola, Iowa
> K L Parts Inc., Pleasantville, Iowa
> Red Oak Auto and Machine, Red Oak, Iowa
> Jerry's Auto Parts, Rock Valley, Iowa
> Iowa Automotive, Sac City, Iowa
> Genuine Parts Co., Shenandoah, Iowa
> Arrow Speed Warehouse - Sioux City, Sioux City, Iowa
> Interstate Batteries - Sioux City, Sioux City, Iowa
> G&G Auto Parts, Vinton, Iowa
> Douglas Battery of Iowa, Waterloo, Iowa
> Quality Auto, Webster City, Iowa
> West Union Motor Supply, West Union, Iowa
> Madison Auto Supply, Winterset, Iowa
>
> I found a post from Mohler on the subject.
>
> --Flash!
> dschilberg@pobox.com
>
> 3Si #577
> 1995 Black VR-4 w/ Big Reds, rollbar, harnesses, and a custom spark plug
> plate
> http://www.team3s.com/FAQrollbar.htm
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mohler, Jeff [mailto:jeff.mohler@netapp.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 3:47 PM
> Subject: RE: Battery for racing
>
> Optima yellow-top battery. Wont leak, no acid, and can be run DRY
hundreds
> of times with no plate degridation.
>
> Theres some photos of what I have right here:
> http://www.speedtoys.com/~gemohler/jeep/install/
>
> I have the same in the VR4, and my other cars.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Schilberg, Darren [mailto:DSchilberg@freemarkets.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 8:14 PM
>
> Is there a good battery to use for road racing and street driving? A
friend
> suggested anything not acid-filled. Something like a gel cell. Any ideas
> on which ones are good and where to get one?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Merritt [mailto:merritt@cedar-rapids.net]
> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 12:17 PM
>
> The OEM battery in my 94 VR4 finally died this winter. It won't hold a
> charge any longer.
>
> Curt Gendron wants me install a half-size battery (from Walmart), so we'll
> have room for the water injection tank that will be going in one of these
> days. I'll probably do that unless I can find a way to mount a battery in
> the back.
>
> My question to the group is:
> Has anyone successfully mounted a battery in the rear? Is there any short
> battery that can fit back there in the plastic trays on either side of the
> spare tire and still fit under the cardboard/carpet cover? Got a product
> name and model number?
>
> I suppose I could mount the battery on the floor behind the passenger
seat,
> but that restricts movement of the seat.
>
> Any thoughts, anyone?
>
> Rich/old poop/94 VR4
>
> *** Info: http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm ***
>
>
>
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>

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Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 17:15:52 -0800
From: "nwlink" <vlsgto@nwlink.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Battery and GT PRO Carbon Fiber Hood

WHY DON'T YOU CALL BRIAN YOURSELF! DON'T TALK TO ME LIKE I OWE YOU MY LIFE.
I WAS MERELY TRYING TO HELP.

SICK AND TIRED OF ALL THIS WHINING!

Julian Huang
94 Mitsubishi Veilside Tein TEC GTO tt
Team 3S
Seattle, Washington
vlsgto@nwlink.com
"Caution: You are about to enter a NO SPIN ZONE!"

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Joshua Prince
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 4:17 PM
To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: Re: Team3S: Battery and GT PRO Carbon Fiber Hood

What does "SOON" mean? I think people who have purchased the hood deserve
to know a date. A slight "Hiccup" is a VAST understatement. They have been
promised for MONTHS now. I do not want to cause a flame war, and that is
not the reason for this email. I want to know when they are going to be
out. Dynamic Racing has told me, they also can not get a response from
Brian. So, all the places selling the hoods for GT Pro, now look bad cause
they can not tell their customers anything due to GT Pro not telling them
anything. I have always been behind Brian and GT Pro but at some point it
becomes ridiculous and absurd. Sorry if anyone is offended, but a bit
frustrated.

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "cody" <overclck@starband.net>
To: "Joshua G. Prince" <joshua@unconundrum.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2001 7:11 PM
Subject: FW: Team3S: Battery and GT PRO Carbon Fiber Hood

>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
> [mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of nwlink
> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 6:54 PM
> To: Schilberg, Darren; 'Merritt';
> Subject: Team3S: Battery and GT PRO Carbon Fiber Hood
>
>
> Darren and all,
>
> When u get the Odysessy (Predator) battery, be sure to also get a trickle
> charger from a local auto store. Unless you start the car every other day,
> the battery will die. This happens more frequently when the weather is
cold
> out. Trickle charger costs only $25.
>
> Regarding Brian's CF hood, I am sure all of you who ordered know that
there
> was a slight hiccup. Anyway, I am speaking on behalf of Brian and would
like
> the state that there was an internal problem and it has now been resolved.
> The hood should be ready soon.
>
> Enjoy!
>
> Julian Huang
> 94 Mitsubishi Veilside Tein TEC GTO tt
> 01 Tweety Yellow Toyota Altezza
> Team 3S
> Seattle, Washington
> vlsgto@nwlink.com
> "Caution: You are about to enter a NO SPIN ZONE!"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
> [mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Schilberg, Darren
> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 11:36 AM
> To: 'Merritt'; Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
> Subject: RE: Team3S: Need a battery
>
>
> Rich,
>
> I will be installing an Optima Red Top battery soon. I hear those are
> smaller since the stock battery tie-down cable does not reach the smaller
> battery. It isn't half-size but it is smaller. I would vote for the
> "racing" battery (ones without the acid sloshing around and can be mounted
> in any orientation - even upside down) since it is safer in the long run.
>
> The Optima Red Top (they also have yellow top ones) have enough oomph for
> several years of use. I did a search and here are the places in Iowa for
> you (might want to search the neighboring states too) or just order and
have
> it shipped.
>
> http://www.optimabatteries.com/main.htm
> - Optima Red Top Battery: 800S or 800U (not recommended for deep cycles)
> - Part number 8002-002
> - 800 CCA
> - 38 pounds
>
> - Optima Yellow Top Battery: 750S (recommended for deep cycles)
> - Part number 8012-021
> - 750 CCA
> - 43 pounds
>
> Linch Auto Parts, Adel, Iowa
> Arsen Auto Parts, Algona, Iowa
> Interstate Batteries - Des Moines, Altoona, Iowa
> Johnston Distributing - Big A, Ames, Iowa
> Bedford Auto Supply, Bedford, Iowa
> Iowa Auto and Machine, Carroll, Iowa
> Batteries Plus, Cedar Rapids, Iowa
> Chapman Auto Supply Center, Cedar Rapids, Iowa
> Chapman Auto Supply S.E., Cedar Rapids, Iowa
> Johnston Distributing - Big A, Centerville, Iowa
> Brown's Auto Supply, Clarinda, Iowa
> Cresco Machine Company, Cresco, Iowa
> Creston Auto Parts, Creston, Iowa
> City Auto Parts, Denison, Iowa
> Batteries Patrol Incorporated, Des Moines, Iowa
> Johnston Distributing, Des Moines, Iowa
> Johnston Distributing - Big A, Des Moines, Iowa
> Big A Auto Parts (Store B), Des Mooines, Iowa
> Auto Mate of Forest City, Forest City, Iowa
> Anderson Auto Parts, Glenwood, Iowa
> Town and Country Parts, Guthrie Center, Iowa
> Hawkeye Auto Parts, Harlan, Iowa
> Interstate Batteries - Upper Iowa, Huxley, Iowa
> Johnston Distributing Co., Johnston, Iowa
> The Parts Stop, Kalona, Iowa
> Wagner Auto Supply, Lemars, Iowa
> Logan Auto Supply, Logan, Iowa
> Collins Motor Supply, Mapleton, Iowa
> Motor Parts Sales, Marcus, Iowa
> Morgan's Auto Parts, Muscatine, Iowa
> Schnack Auto Parts #2, Oakland, Iowa
> Smith Auto Supply, Onawa, Iowa
> Action Auto Supply, Orange City, Iowa
> Bob's Auto Supply, Osceola, Iowa
> K L Parts Inc., Pleasantville, Iowa
> Red Oak Auto and Machine, Red Oak, Iowa
> Jerry's Auto Parts, Rock Valley, Iowa
> Iowa Automotive, Sac City, Iowa
> Genuine Parts Co., Shenandoah, Iowa
> Arrow Speed Warehouse - Sioux City, Sioux City, Iowa
> Interstate Batteries - Sioux City, Sioux City, Iowa
> G&G Auto Parts, Vinton, Iowa
> Douglas Battery of Iowa, Waterloo, Iowa
> Quality Auto, Webster City, Iowa
> West Union Motor Supply, West Union, Iowa
> Madison Auto Supply, Winterset, Iowa
>
> I found a post from Mohler on the subject.
>
> --Flash!
> dschilberg@pobox.com
>
> 3Si #577
> 1995 Black VR-4 w/ Big Reds, rollbar, harnesses, and a custom spark plug
> plate
> http://www.team3s.com/FAQrollbar.htm
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mohler, Jeff [mailto:jeff.mohler@netapp.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 3:47 PM
> Subject: RE: Battery for racing
>
> Optima yellow-top battery. Wont leak, no acid, and can be run DRY
hundreds
> of times with no plate degridation.
>
> Theres some photos of what I have right here:
> http://www.speedtoys.com/~gemohler/jeep/install/
>
> I have the same in the VR4, and my other cars.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Schilberg, Darren [mailto:DSchilberg@freemarkets.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 8:14 PM
>
> Is there a good battery to use for road racing and street driving? A
friend
> suggested anything not acid-filled. Something like a gel cell. Any ideas
> on which ones are good and where to get one?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Merritt [mailto:merritt@cedar-rapids.net]
> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 12:17 PM
>
> The OEM battery in my 94 VR4 finally died this winter. It won't hold a
> charge any longer.
>
> Curt Gendron wants me install a half-size battery (from Walmart), so we'll
> have room for the water injection tank that will be going in one of these
> days. I'll probably do that unless I can find a way to mount a battery in
> the back.
>
> My question to the group is:
> Has anyone successfully mounted a battery in the rear? Is there any short
> battery that can fit back there in the plastic trays on either side of the
> spare tire and still fit under the cardboard/carpet cover? Got a product
> name and model number?
>
> I suppose I could mount the battery on the floor behind the passenger
seat,
> but that restricts movement of the seat.
>
> Any thoughts, anyone?
>
> Rich/old poop/94 VR4
>
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