team3s             Thursday, March 1 2001             Volume 01 : Number 423




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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 11:08:41 EST
From: FRAGU172@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: check engine light on

guys.. i just replaced the intake gasket.. i bought a new one about 3 weeks ago  and put it on.. not expecting to be changing plugs out. i heard you can use them over if the gasket isnt bent or broken. so i did reuse the gaskets since theyre brand friggin new. o2 sensor is getting checked out friday. and i have assembled everything the way it was originaly. ie no lose wires or missing connections. let me know what else i should look for
- -steven J

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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:13:07 -0600
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: More on tire temps

At 08:51 AM 2/28/01 -0700, Desert Fox wrote:
>This sounds hard unless one is at a track overnight, no?

Yes. You also need to take them off the ground for 24 hr for the first
cooling cycle, either by jacking up the car or taking them off and putting
the streets back on. Most people don't go to all that trouble. As for me, I
order them heat cycled -- that way I know they are cycled  properly, they
don't get any road mileage, and I don't have to waste several hours
mounting, driving and demounting them.

Rich/old poop
>
>--
>Paul/.
>95 black 3000GT VR-4
>98 VFR800F, TBR aluminium hi exit
>formerly reasonable and prudent
>
>on 2/28/01 7:25, Willis, Charles E. at cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org
>scribbled:
>
>> My tire guy told me to heat treat my new Yoko's by the following method.
 40
>> mph for 10 minutes, 50 mph for 10 minutes, 60 mph for 10 minutes, stop and
>> let tires cool, preferably overnight.  The purpose of this is to gradually
>> heat up the tires and get the greasy mold release to offgas.  It's worked
>> well for us on four sets of Yokos so far.
>>
>
>

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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:40:40 -0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: Team3S: check engine light on

The service manual lists the intake manifold plenum gasket as a non-reusable
part. As cheap as I am,  I have never been brave enough to reuse it.  If
this behavior was not present before you changed the plugs, you have got to
suspect it has something to do with that service event.  How did you deal
with the EGR valve?  I remember getting it on and off was a challenge.  We
bought a special plumbers tool for retrieving the little nuts (or was it
bolts) after dropping them into the engine compartment.  Now that's a gasket
I DID reuse.

Does the engine run smoothly, or does it miss?

Chuck

> -----Original Message-----
> From: FRAGU172@aol.com [SMTP:FRAGU172@aol.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 10:09 AM
> To: team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
> Subject: Team3S: check engine light on
>
> guys.. i just replaced the intake gasket.. i bought a new one about 3
> weeks ago  and put it on.. not expecting to be changing plugs out. i heard
> you can use them over if the gasket isnt bent or broken. so i did reuse
> the gaskets since theyre brand friggin new. o2 sensor is getting checked
> out friday. and i have assembled everything the way it was originaly. ie
> no lose wires or missing connections. let me know what else i should look
> for
> -steven J
>
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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:35:38 -0800
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: More on tire temps

Chuck

The following link gives Tire Racks version of the truth ---- they just say run the
tires for 100 miles at highway speeds or have them do their stuff.

I've seen other versions of heat cycling that require a more aggressive approach.
Hoosier wants you to bring them [ competition tires ] up to race temps, 200º or so
park the car, jack it up and let them cool for 48 hours. The sitting around
period is apparently important as it allows the tire to 'cure' properly.

Tire Rack has some good info on there tire tech page --- it's worth reading over.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/heat.htm

        Jim berry
===============================================



- ----- Original Message -----
From: Willis, Charles E. <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>

> My tire guy told me to heat treat my new Yoko's by the following method.  40
> mph for 10 minutes, 50 mph for 10 minutes, 60 mph for 10 minutes, stop and
> let tires cool, preferably overnight.  The purpose of this is to gradually
> heat up the tires and get the greasy mold release to offgas.  It's worked
> well for us on four sets of Yokos so far.
>
> Chuck
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Schilberg, Darren [SMTP:DSchilberg@freemarkets.com]
> >
> >    Merritt also shaved his tires when he didn't have time to season them
> > for
> > Road America (namely because I bought those tires and wheels from him so
> > he
> > didn't have any tires left).  Also, in AutoX it gets them to the right
> > depth
> > instead of wearing them down for several events.  I know I am responding
> > to
> > this late but that is why he did it the first time.
> >    And don't forget about Heat cycling.  I'm gonna have this done to my
> > tires for the DE in April.  Give them a good base to work from when
> >


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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 10:43:20 -0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Re: More on tire temps

Yeah, I was too lazy to dismount them, but they don't seem to wind up flat
sided.  I don't think they really get hot enough to deform.  I guess I would
dismount them if I had a more convenient way to lift the car.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Merritt [SMTP:merritt@cedar-rapids.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 10:13 AM
> To: Desert Fox; Willis, Charles E.
> Cc: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
> Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: More on tire temps
>
> At 08:51 AM 2/28/01 -0700, Desert Fox wrote:
> >This sounds hard unless one is at a track overnight, no?
>
> Yes. You also need to take them off the ground for 24 hr for the first
> cooling cycle, either by jacking up the car or taking them off and putting
> the streets back on. Most people don't go to all that trouble. As for me,
> I
> order them heat cycled -- that way I know they are cycled  properly, they
> don't get any road mileage, and I don't have to waste several hours
> mounting, driving and demounting them.
>
> Rich/old poop
> >
> >--
> >Paul/.
> >95 black 3000GT VR-4
> >98 VFR800F, TBR aluminium hi exit
> >formerly reasonable and prudent
> >
> >on 2/28/01 7:25, Willis, Charles E. at
> cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org
> >scribbled:
> >
> >> My tire guy told me to heat treat my new Yoko's by the following
> method.
>  40
> >> mph for 10 minutes, 50 mph for 10 minutes, 60 mph for 10 minutes, stop
> and
> >> let tires cool, preferably overnight.  The purpose of this is to
> gradually
> >> heat up the tires and get the greasy mold release to offgas.  It's
> worked
> >> well for us on four sets of Yokos so far.
> >>
> >
> >

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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 12:04:19 -0500
From: Jeff.A.Williamson@jci.com
Subject: Team3S: re: check engine light on

I haven't seen where anyone else mentioned this yet, but if I remember
correctly, the throttle cable is clamped to a bracket that is bolted to the
intake plenum. The mounting holes on the bracket are slotted to make it
adjustable.  If you removed the bracket in order to remove the plenum when
you replaced the rear plugs, and didn't re-mount the bracket in the same
position as it was before, this affects the position of the throttle cable
and could affect your engine idle speed. If it's too far out of adjustment,
then the ECU can't compensate. It's worth checking, but sounds like you
could have other problems, too.

Jeff W.
Belleville, MI
'92 VR4


>Hi all.. my check engine light is on and i dont know why... i just put new
>NGK plugs in it.. (may have fouled a plug, just wanted to make sure thats
not
>the problem)  the check engine light comes on after about a minute and a
half
>of driving/idling, also the idle is up to about 1600 now.. in first gear i
>can stay off the gas and clutch and the car will still go!  and the gas
>mileage is about 40-50 off the tank. can someone give me some insight on
what
>to check or what else to do??
>thanks
>- -Steven J


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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:28:40 -0500
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: rough idle

Willis, Charles E. wrote:
> Have you cleaned the K&N filter since installation?

It has only been in for 8k miles or so and is in no need of cleaning.  I did
have this off several weeks ago but all wires (esp. the MAS) are back on.


> When you changed the plugs, did you take the time to clean out the intake
manifold plenum?

Actually I have only had the front plugs in since mid-December and still
need to do the rears.  I did not take the plenum off.


> Has the fuel filter ever been changed in your car?

I don't know.  I bought it in June with 40k and it now has 52k.  The 60k
service will be in a few months anyway.  I think it is just temperamental to
the seasonal change.


Thanks.

- --Flash!
1995 VR-4 at it's time of the month

- -----Original Message-----
From: Willis, Charles E. [mailto:cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org]
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 11:12 AM
To: 'Schilberg, Darren'; Willis, Charles E.; 'FRAGU172@aol.com';
team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: RE: Team3S: rough idle

Have you cleaned the K&N filter since installation?  When you changed the
plugs, did you take the time to clean out the intake manifold plenum?  Has
the fuel filter ever been changed in your car?


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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:32:28 -0500
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: rough idle

> Did your car have to hunt a little for idle
> after is bombed out?  Mine does.  I don't get a check
> engine light, either.  I really think I may have a
> problem with my battery, but I don't know if it's
> related to the dying problem or not.

It could be the battery but it has juice to start and lights are not dim so
this is not the answer.  Cables on the battery are not corroded.

I forgot to mention that I did do a silicone hose upgrade and some might
have a slightly larger or smaller ID to the hose which might make a
difference.  However, once a hose has a vacuum it doesn't really matter the
size (besides - it only changed by 1 or 2 mm at most anyway).  A few weeks
ago I did a third of the engine.  It ran fine.  Then the next weekend I did
some more.  It ran fine I think.

This might be some reasons but I tie-wrapped all the ends shut so no hoses
are loose or anything.

Boy do those hose kits dress up the engine though.

- --Flash!
1995 VR-4

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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:35:45 -0500
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Re: More on tire temps

Yes, but think about all the stories the kids in the beat up Pick-up trucks
or 4-cylinder Civics will tell about passing a well-modified $40k sports car
being driven by one heck of a good driver.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Willis, Charles E. [mailto:cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org]

I try to find a stretch of highway (farm-to-market roads) with little
traffic.  Sunday AM seems convenient, becasue everyone is sleeping off their
hangovers.  You can bet I got lots of nasty comments from people passing me
during the 40 mph stretch, even though I had my emergency flashers on.


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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:51:21 -0500
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject: Team3S: Warning: Bogus eBay sale of 1991 Dodge Stealth ES

Recently, someone posted a warning that a 1991 Dodge Stealth ES in CA on
eBay had pictures of his 1994 Stealth TT in IL (sorry that I forgot who).  I
have a personal contact in Bakersfield who is genuinely interested in
getting one of our cars so he sent the seller some emails.  Here are the
transactions.  Beware and thanks for the heads-up to the list.

Thanks to those who helped in noticing and alerting the list to this error.

- --Flash!
Pittsburgh, PA
1995 VR-4


- ----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 12:12 AM
To: sieteup@msn.com
Cc: Schilberg, Darren
Subject: Internet sale of your 1991 Dodge Stealth ES

Dear Sir:

Since I live in Bakersfield, I have been asked by a friend in Pennsylvania
to inspect and photograph the 1991 Dodge Stealth ES that you have posted for
sale on eBay.  I can meet you at a time and place of your convenience. You
can reach me at home at 661-555-1234 or via my beeper at 661-555-5678.



- ----------
From: "Benji H" <sieteup@msn.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 03:11:35 -0800
Subject: Re: Internet sale of your 1991 Dodge Stealth ES

Hello, I'm working on getting the exact pictures of my Stealth, but I just
thought I borrough those since they are similar to mine,  my deepest
oppologies, and will try to get them asap.  Thanx.



- ----------
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:21:30 -0800
To: Benji H <sieteup@msn.com>
Subject: Re: Internet sale of your 1991 Dodge Stealth ES

Dear Sir:

I have a digital camera and would be happy to assist you in preparing
photographs that you could submit to eBay via the internet.  Just give me a
call.  I'd like to see the car; my friend in Pennsylvania is very much
interested in buying it.



- -----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 12:08 PM
To: Schilberg, Darren
Subject: Re: Internet sale of your 1991 Dodge Stealth ES

Darren,

Well, this is interesting.  I tried to send a reply to this guy, and my
message was returned.  Then I tried to lodge a complaint with eBay, but no
matter how hard I tried, I couldn't find a way to notify them of the
apparent mischief.  My bet is that this illiterate idiot is merely trying to
gull people into sending him security payments, no  doubt to a "safe"
address, whereupon he'll cash the checks and head for the hills.  No use
trying to complain to the police; they don't have time or skill for this
sort of thing.

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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:59:53 -0600
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Warning: Bogus eBay sale of 1991 Dodge Stealth ES

There is more than one fraud going on here.
Look at the phone numbers:

>You
can reach me at home at 661-555-1234 or via my beeper at 661-555-5678.

Those are movie phone numbers. Nobody has a 555 exchange (except for four
area codes in Arizona, and this guy is supposed to be in Bakersfield).  I
tried to call just to see, and sure enough an operator intervened.

So who is fooling who here?

Rich



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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:33:47 -0600
From: "Craig Golema" <CGOLEMA@hobbico.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Warning: Bogus eBay sale of 1991 Dodge Stealth ES

>SNIP<
>I tried to send a reply to this guy, and my
>message was returned.  Then I tried to lodge a complaint with eBay, but no
>matter how hard I tried, I couldn't find a way to notify them of the
>apparent mischief.

I'm the one who's photo's are being used in the auction. I too attempted to contacted the seller after the discovery. Here was my email:

Dear sietup,

  I noticed your auction for the Stealth and would like more information on it. The car looks beautiful for having so many miles on it. Is there anything wrong with it? By the looks of the photo, it's been garaged all it's life. Why are you selling her?

Here is the reply:

"Hi, those picture are exactkly my Stealth, but I'm working on more pictures.  The cars is in great shape.  My wife is getting to me ---- "SELL IT, SELL IT, YOU NEED TO SELL IT!!!" ---- you know!"



After receiving this reply, I decided to file a complaint. I too had difficulty finding a way to submit a complaint to eBay, but finally succeeded. I sent them and explanation and links that would clearly prove the image was mine and being wrongfully used in the auction. This is eBay's reply:

"Thank you for taking the time to send your concerns to Community Watch.
We have received your report and it has been placed in our queue, which
is processed on a first-come, first-served basis. At this time we are
experiencing a high volume of email. Since each report is fully
investigated it may be several days (2-3) before we can respond to you.
Please be assured that your report will be addressed as quickly as
possible."

We'll see what happens...

Craig
94 Twin Turbo



Craig  Golema
Product Development Manager
Hobbico, Inc.


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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:33:16 -0500
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Warning: Bogus eBay sale of 1991 Dodge Stealth ES

Rich "Old Poop" Merritt wrote:
> There is more than one fraud going on here.
> Look at the phone numbers:

No, no, no.  In the hopes of taking out my friend's name, email address, and
phone numbers I took out all his info.  I should have replaced it with
Flash's friend, Flash's friend's phone number, etc.  Sorry about that.

I have fixed the emails below.

- --Flash!
1995 VR-4


- ----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 12:12 AM
From: (Flash's friend's name has been removed)
To: sieteup@msn.com
Cc: Schilberg, Darren
Subject: Internet sale of your 1991 Dodge Stealth ES

Dear Sir:

Since I live in Bakersfield, I have been asked by a friend in Pennsylvania
to inspect and photograph the 1991 Dodge Stealth ES that you have posted for
sale on eBay.  I can meet you at a time and place of your convenience. You
can reach me at home at (Flash's friend's phone number has been removed).

Sincerely,
(Flash's friend's name has been removed)

- ----------
From: "Benji H" <sieteup@msn.com>
To: (Flash's friend's name has been removed)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 03:11:35 -0800
Subject: Re: Internet sale of your 1991 Dodge Stealth ES

Hello, I'm working on getting the exact pictures of my Stealth, but I just
thought I borrough those since they are similar to mine,  my deepest
oppologies, and will try to get them asap.  Thanx.



- ----------
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 08:21:30 -0800
From: (Flash's friend's name has been removed)
To: Benji H <sieteup@msn.com>
Subject: Re: Internet sale of your 1991 Dodge Stealth ES

Dear Sir:

I have a digital camera and would be happy to assist you in preparing
photographs that you could submit to eBay via the internet.  Just give me a
call.  I'd like to see the car; my friend in Pennsylvania is very much
interested in buying it.

Sincerely,
(Flash's friend's name has been removed)


- -----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 12:08 PM
From: (Flash's friend's name has been removed)
To: Schilberg, Darren
Subject: Re: Internet sale of your 1991 Dodge Stealth ES

Darren,

Well, this is interesting.  I tried to send a reply to this guy, and my
message was returned.  Then I tried to lodge a complaint with eBay, but no
matter how hard I tried, I couldn't find a way to notify them of the
apparent mischief.  My bet is that this illiterate idiot is merely trying to
gull people into sending him security payments, no  doubt to a "safe"
address, whereupon he'll cash the checks and head for the hills.  No use
trying to complain to the police; they don't have time or skill for this
sort of thing.

Sincerely,
(Flash's friend's name has been removed)

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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:23:51 +0100
From: Roger Gerl <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: More on tire temps (and pressure)

I remember that there is a tool for observing tire pressures and
temperatures by a sender mounted inside the tire for around $300 but I lost
the link. Can someone please point me to this thing again ?

Thanks
Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch


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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 23:47:49 +0200
From: "Oleg Reznik" <Oleg@3000gt.lv>
Subject: Team3S: from non-turbo to turbo:))

I found this in the Ebay. looks cool:)))))

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=565296993

Oleg
3SI#0441


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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:02:32 -0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: Team3S: rough idle

I clean and reoil my K&N filter after/before every track excursion.  It
looks pretty nasty after 200 miles on the track.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Schilberg, Darren [SMTP:DSchilberg@freemarkets.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 2:29 PM
> To: 'Willis, Charles E.'; Schilberg, Darren; 'FRAGU172@aol.com';
> team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
> Subject: RE: Team3S: rough idle
>
> Willis, Charles E. wrote:
> > Have you cleaned the K&N filter since installation?
>
> It has only been in for 8k miles or so and is in no need of cleaning.  I
> did
> have this off several weeks ago but all wires (esp. the MAS) are back on.
>
>
> > When you changed the plugs, did you take the time to clean out the
> intake
> manifold plenum?
>
> Actually I have only had the front plugs in since mid-December and still
> need to do the rears.  I did not take the plenum off.
>
>
> > Has the fuel filter ever been changed in your car?
>
> I don't know.  I bought it in June with 40k and it now has 52k.  The 60k
> service will be in a few months anyway.  I think it is just temperamental
> to
> the seasonal change.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
> --Flash!
> 1995 VR-4 at it's time of the month
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Willis, Charles E. [mailto:cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 11:12 AM
> To: 'Schilberg, Darren'; Willis, Charles E.; 'FRAGU172@aol.com';
> team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
> Subject: RE: Team3S: rough idle
>
> Have you cleaned the K&N filter since installation?  When you changed the
> plugs, did you take the time to clean out the intake manifold plenum?  Has
> the fuel filter ever been changed in your car?

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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 15:32:24 +0100
From: Roger Gerl <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Magnecor Wires

At 08:33 28.02.2001 -0500, you wrote:
I have used both: NGK and OME.
My choice OME.

I don't know OME, can you please provide me with more information on them ?

Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch


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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:08:11 -0500
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Re: More on tire temps (and pressure)

There is one from SmarTire, http://www.smartire.com/
<http://www.smartire.com/> , and I am seriously considering it.  The old
version was cheaper and the new version (capable of more fun things) is more
expensive.  I have attached the emails that I have from them.  She said the
version on the website was unavailable back in early November.

- --Flash!
1995 VR-4


- -----Original Message-----
From: Roger Gerl [mailto:roger.gerl@bluewin.ch]
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 12:24 PM

I remember that there is a tool for observing tire pressures and
temperatures by a sender mounted inside the tire for around $300 but I lost
the link. Can someone please point me to this thing again ?


- -----Original Message-----
From: Shannon Wyllie [mailto:swyllie@smartire.com]
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 7:12 PM
To: 'DSchilberg@freemarkets.com'
Subject: RE: Website inquiry

Hello Mr. Schilberg,

The product that you find on the web site is currently unavailable. That
product is our next generation product and is still in the testing phase and
the release date of this product is unknown at this point. However we do
have a current product that should be able to meet your needs. If you would
like information on this product you can call our toll free number at
1-888-982-3001 or send in your mailing address and I can mail you the
information. For your convenience I have provided a suggested retail price
list of our current product line.

4 pos passenger car system US$299
2 pos light truck/Trlr/rv system US$299
4 pos light truck/Trlr/rv system US$399
6 pos light truck/Trlr/rv system US$499

**plus installation

Thank you,

Shannon Wyllie
Administrative Assistant


- -----Original Message-----
From: Schilberg, Darren [mailto:DSchilberg@freemarkets.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 4:46 AM
To: 'Shannon Wyllie'
Subject: RE: Website inquiry


Shannon,

   Thank you for the information and I would appreciate a brochure on the
current product.  Also, I assume that the current product will be compatible
with the new, currently unavailable, system?  Is it just the controller that
will change and keep the sensors the same or will the sensors be different
too?  This is all very new to me so I am trying to learn all that I can.
Thanks for everything.

- --Darren Schilberg
dschilberg@freemarkets.com


- -----Original Message-----
From: Shannon Wyllie [mailto:swyllie@smartire.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2000 10:55 AM
To: 'Schilberg, Darren'
Subject: RE: Website inquiry

Hello Darren,

I will send out a package to you that will provide you with the details on
the current and future products. The current product and new product are not
going to be compatible as they are made with entirely different technologies
and the sensors are not the same as before. Please let me know if you have
any other questions.

Thank you,
Shannon Wyllie

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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 14:19:55 -0800
From: "Bob Forrest" <bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: More on tire temps (and pressure)

The SmarTire system is available from TireRack for $219 +shipping:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/pressuremonitors.jsp

Best,

Forrest


> There is one from SmarTire, http://www.smartire.com/
> <http://www.smartire.com/> , and I am seriously considering it.  The
old
> version was cheaper and the new version (capable of more fun things)
is more
> expensive.  I have attached the emails that I have from them.  She
said the
> version on the website was unavailable back in early November.
> --Flash!
> 1995 VR-4
>
> Subject: RE: Website inquiry
> Hello Mr. Schilberg,
> The product that you find on the web site is currently unavailable.
That
> product is our next generation product and is still in the testing
phase and
> the release date of this product is unknown at this point. However we
do
> have a current product that should be able to meet your needs. If you
would
> like information on this product you can call our toll free number at
> 1-888-982-3001 or send in your mailing address and I can mail you the
> information. For your convenience I have provided a suggested retail
price
> list of our current product line.
> 4 pos passenger car system US$299
> 2 pos light truck/Trlr/rv system US$299
> 4 pos light truck/Trlr/rv system US$399
> 6 pos light truck/Trlr/rv system US$499




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Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 00:30:18 +0200
From: "Oleg Reznik" <Oleg@3000gt.lv>
Subject: Re: Team3S: from non-turbo to turbo:))

I think it works with 5 psi only. It's simular kit, like for Honda Civic:))

Oleg
94'VR4
www.3000gt.lv

> I don't see anything that this kit will do to lower the NA compression
> ratio.  The NA uses a higher compression ratio that would almost guarantee
> detonation when turbo-charged.  Detonation can destroy the engine in a
> matter of seconds - almost without warning.  See Roger Gerl's site for
> description and pictures.
>
> Doug G
> '94 VR4
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Oleg Reznik" <Oleg@3000gt.lv>
> To: "Team3S" <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 3:47 PM
> Subject: Team3S: from non-turbo to turbo:))
>
>
> > I found this in the Ebay. looks cool:)))))
> >
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=565296993
> >
> > Oleg
> > 3SI#0441
> >
> >
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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 16:46:11 -0600
From: "Greg S." <wizards@mhtc.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Magnecor Wires

OEM - Original Equipment Manufacturer   as in Mitsubishi.




Roger Gerl wrote:

> At 08:33 28.02.2001 -0500, you wrote:
> I have used both: NGK and OME.
> My choice OME.
>
> I don't know OME, can you please provide me with more information on them ?
>
> Roger
> 93'3000GT TT
> www.rtec.ch
>
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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:55:49 -0500
From: "Jeff VanOrsdal" <jeffv@1nce.com>
Subject: Team3S: from non-turbo to turbo:))

The NA motor can supposedly handle up to 10 psi without changing
compression.  This information comes from GT Pro, so argue with them, not me
:)  I would however, like to know what the actual functionality of this
"kit" is.  Regardless of the maximum boost pressure, could this system be a
bolt-on mod?  By my estimation, he has assembled all the necessary parts to
build a functional TT motor out of an NA. Not that I am not commenting on
any power output.  I'm simply wondering if it would run and be drivable.
Would any of our resident technical experts care to comment?

Jeff V.
jeffv@1nce.com


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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 23:57:26 +0100
From: "Roger Gerl \(RTEC\)" <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: from non-turbo to turbo:))

> I think it works with 5 psi only. It's simular kit, like for Honda
Civic:))

Nono, it's not a kit at all ! It's a parted out twinturbo. You can have
almost the same stuff from me that is sitting around after all the mods :)

Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch


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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 17:02:46 -0600
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: from non-turbo to turbo:))

> I'm simply wondering if it would run and be drivable.
> Would any of our resident technical experts care
> to comment?

I didn't notice any fuel system parts in the "kit", and you would want to
increase the fuel supply in order to safely run boost on a non-turbo car.  A
rising-rate fuel pressure regulator is pretty much mandatory, as is likely a
higher flowing fuel pump and appropriately sized fuel injectors.  I don't
know for a fact that the nonturbo engines come with different injectors, but
if I was Mitsubishi that would be a great area to cut some costs on a
nonturbo.

An ECU from a turbo car would probably also be the easiest way to make all
this stuff work properly.  Don't know if the airflow sensors are different
between turbo and non-turbo cars.  Hopefully not, which would save some
hassles/money.

Seems like more trouble than it is worth though.  High-horsepower FWD cars
are a real handful to drive, and not really that entertaining.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 01:41:36 +0000 (GMT+00:00)
From: John Stegall III <john.stegall@e247.com>
Subject: Team3S: Performance Tuning/Race Shops

To all those in Southern California...

I'm looking for race/performance tuning shops here in southern california that work on our cars and are reliable.  I checked out GT-Pro since they're practically in my back yard but I've heard some very mixed things about them.  I even found several complaints about them on a consumer affairs web site about them ripping people off.  When I checked out their web site their prices seemed rather high as well (compared to that of Altered Atmosphere, which is nowhere near me).  Unfortunately, they're the only one I know of.  Does anyone else know of any other shops that work on our cars in so. cal?  TIA.

John
1994 3000GT VR-4 (bone stock)

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Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 01:43:52 +0000 (GMT+00:00)
From: John Stegall III <john.stegall@e247.com>
Subject: Team3S: Keyless entry batteries

Okay, having recently bought my 1994 VR-4, my keyless entry (came with the car and is stock) battery died on me.  I was wondering if anyone on this list with a 94 (or a year with the same keyless entry switch) knows what kind of battery it needs and what the model is?  I went to a Savon and tried every battery they had and none of them worked... anyone know where I can get replacements?  TIA.

John
1994 3000GT VR-4

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Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 02:49:58 +0100
From: Syncom <syncom@mail.digitel2002.hu>
Subject: Team3S: Re: looking for 3000/stealth

> Andrzej,
>
>     As Roger said, in addition to the 3000GT turbos that were officially sold
> by Mitsubishi in Europe,

Jim, Roger,
I'd be extremely curious to learn how many 3000GTs Mitsubishi ever officially
sold in Europe, but I'd be terribly shocked if the number was above twenty or
so, considering the fact that the price of the car was about 35% more over
here compared to VR-4s in the US. Also, I have a lot of very good friends
in Germany, and I love them, but 99% of them would get an immediate heart
attack at the thought of owning a non-German-made car.

> there are also various models of the 3000GT and
> Stealth around that were brought over from the USA by Americans stationed
> here.

I think the situation is a lot worse than you think, Jim. You'd be surprised
how many 3000GTs and Stealths in Europe were once labeled 'salvage title' by
American insurance firms... It's a great business, importing wrecks and
'repairing' them. I was looking for a 3000GT to buy for two and a half years,
and believe me, I know. I've seen ones where half of all the parts under
the hood were not even made by Mitsubishi... Mercedes cooler, VW air-condition
compressor, you name it, it's there. And since a lot of Mitsu dealers never
ever saw a 3000GT in person, even the mechanics examining the car for the
buyer are fooled. Everything seems to be working on the car, but change
something, and the newly ordered part won't fit with its holder, etc., what
a surprise! Of course, the buyer is mesmerized by the rare beauty of the
chassis, and loses all common sense. It's all caused by Mitsu's hyperidiotic
marketing strategy claiming that there was no demand for NA (i.e. not over-
priced beyond reason) 3000GTs in Europe. Did you know for example that the
new Eclipse is NOT AT ALL available in Europe? The big German 'Autokatalog
2000' doesn't even mention it! Ridiculous. You want a sports car? Buy a
Ferrari. Don't have enough money to buy a Ferrari? Drop dead, there's no
alternative. This seems to be the European way of car marketing. (Or was I
meant to believe the Audi TT is a sports car, and not some undersized
futuristic tricycle from a 1920's Fritz Lang movie? Never ever even occured
to me, sorry, sorry, sorry...)

Andzrej, if you want to get a 3000GT in this part of the world, be VERY
careful, and prepare to spend a LOT of money, a lot more than any of our
American friends on this list would ever even consider spending, especially
after you got the car, courtesy of Mitsubishi Motors Marketing Strategy,
thank you.

(BTW, if you buy an American car, you need to replace or modify all the
lamps to pass the inspections, you need to buy the front lamps for the
European model because American beams are horizontally leveled while European
beams are angled, somehow install a WHITE front side marker and rewire the
big yellow front sidebulb for turning light only, which will give you small
voltage drops while you use the turning light, but don't worry about that,
and rewire and cut out part of the rear combination light to install YELLOW
plastic material over the rear turning light section at the sides, fog lights
need no changing.)

Best wishes,
Zsolt Kovacs
'95 3000GT SL


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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 18:01:58 -0800
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Keyless entry batteries

My 93 TT with stock keyless has a Panasonic CR 2032  3 volt battery

        Jim Berry
=================================================


- ----- Original Message -----
From: John Stegall III <john.stegall@e247.com>

> Okay, having recently bought my 1994 VR-4, my keyless entry (came with the car and is stock) battery died on me.  I was
wondering if anyone on this list with a 94 (or a year with the same keyless entry switch) knows what kind of battery it
needs and what the model is?  I went to a Savon and tried every battery they had and none of them worked... anyone know
where I can get replacements?  TIA.



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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:19:41 -0500
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Keyless entry batteries

John,

   Congrats on the car.  It might not be the battery that is the problem.  I
don't know if a dead battery loses the encoded signal for the doors.  It
takes about 45-minutes to get out all the panels (next to the rear left
speaker grille) which is where the brain for the keyless remote sensor is.
A learning switch that you move from O to 1 or 2 to learn the code and then
back to O so it will work again.

- --Flash!
1995 VR-4 w/ keyless entry

 -----Original Message-----
From: John Stegall III [mailto:john.stegall@e247.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 20:44
To: Team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: Team3S: Keyless entry batteries

Okay, having recently bought my 1994 VR-4, my keyless entry (came with the
car and is stock) battery died on me.  I was wondering if anyone on this
list with a 94 (or a year with the same keyless entry switch) knows what
kind of battery it needs and what the model is?  I went to a Savon and tried
every battery they had and none of them worked... anyone know where I can
get replacements?  TIA.

John
1994 3000GT VR-4


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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:23:23 -0500
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject: Team3S: Cigarette lighter/power outlet not working

It must be the season for my problems.

A few weeks ago I was using a tire inflator in the power outlet to inflate
the tires with air (seems simple enough).  After filling up all four tires
from the car sitting a while after the tranny was replaced I noticed that
the inflator died on me.  It still had juice (lights would work) but it did
not inflate anymore.  I thought I blew the fuse on the power outlet.

I tried the cigarette lighter.  It worked for a while then went dead too.

Both fuses are good for these things but where can the problem be?  A
possible shorted wire under the consoles?  I think I even replaced the fuses
with good ones but to no avail.

What's worse is that I can't use the Valentine One OR the G-Tech Pro.  Most
devastating.

- --Flash!
1995 VR-4


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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:27:13 -0500
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject: Team3S: Windshield wipers not on automatically

Yes another problem.

This one might be related to the last one (Cigarette lighter/power outlet)
since it seemed to have happened around the same time.  When I pull on the
windshield washer arm it squirts water but the wipers (front) do not move.
I have to move the arm to the ON position for them to work.  Is this a bad
switch or something?  Could the possible shorted wires from the cigarette
lighter and power outlet have knocked out the windshield wipers too?

The rear wipers work like a champ.  I have checked all available fuses for
them but they appear to be good.  What's more is that I took out the fuse
for the wipers (the fusebox in the driver footwell) but after I removed it I
could still turn them on.  Most aggravating.  Maybe my fusebox cover was
upside down.  I checked and took out the correct fuse (located not by
location but number this time) and still the wipers work.

I'll have to take a picture so people don't think I'm crazy.

- --Flash!
1995 VR-4


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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:03:17 -0500
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Windshield wipers not on automatically

Thanks, Kevin.  I was about to find this in the CD Manual.

I have checked the #1 (Cigarette lighter) and #8 (Wipers) fuse and they are
both good.  That means there is a short along the way usually.

Also, what fuse takes care of the power outlet or is this run by the
cigarette lighter?

- --Flash!
1995 VR-4

 -----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Clark [mailto:Kevin.Clark@hnz.co.nz]
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 21:48
To: 'Schilberg, Darren'
Subject: RE: Team3S: Windshield wipers not on automatically

> What's more is that I took out the fuse for the wipers (the fusebox
> in the driver footwell) but after I removed it I could still turn
> them on.  Most aggravating.  Maybe my fusebox cover was upside down.

Not sure if the following will help or not..
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/8443/Images_Gto_Man_fusebox.gif

Cheers,
Kevin.

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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 21:44:12 -0800
From: "nwlink" <vlsgto@nwlink.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Performance Tuning/Race Shops

John,

I am currently dealing with gt pro and Brian is quite a cool person once you
get to know him. As for Mike at Altered, he is also a great guy to deal
with. In terms of pricing, check around. You can try Kenrick or Gary at
Bozzperformance.com or Dusty at MVP motorsports.com These are just some of
the few people to deal with who are nice. At least you are in
California....and no matter how, there are more speedshops over there
compared to Seattle.

Check out vendors on Turbo magazine or even take a drive to Signal
Performance. If I were in California now, I would be visitng almost every
speedshop no matter how far .... :))

Hope this helps.

Julian Huang
94 Mitsubishi Veilside Tein TEC GTO tt
Team 3S
Seattle, Washington
vlsgto@nwlink.com
"Caution: You are about to enter a NO SPIN ZONE!"

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of John Stegall III
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 5:42 PM
To: Team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: Team3S: Performance Tuning/Race Shops


To all those in Southern California...

I'm looking for race/performance tuning shops here in southern california
that work on our cars and are reliable.  I checked out GT-Pro since they're
practically in my back yard but I've heard some very mixed things about
them.  I even found several complaints about them on a consumer affairs web
site about them ripping people off.  When I checked out their web site their
prices seemed rather high as well (compared to that of Altered Atmosphere,
which is nowhere near me).  Unfortunately, they're the only one I know of.
Does anyone else know of any other shops that work on our cars in so. cal?
TIA.

John
1994 3000GT VR-4 (bone stock)

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Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 00:48:04 EST
From: FRAGU172@aol.com
Subject: RE: Team3S: check engine light on

youre telling me i HAVE to go spend ANOTHER 28 bucks on two bits of sheet
metal? as far as the egr valve.. dont have one.. 93 base 3kgt! :-)
apparently the engine was missing.. thats why i had to replace the plugs..
suspected fouled plug.. due to the fact that i used carb cleaner in the
intake manifold after i took the plenum off the first time so i could remove
all gunk from the walls of the manifold.. i got my front pipe from MS
recycling today and it had a new bosch O2 sensor in it.. oops check engine
light is still on.. and i re-seated the plenum the right way last night and
whoops its still on.. sheesh.. i need to invest in a scan tool for this damn
car.
fed up with my car
- -§teven J

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Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 22:00:47 -0800
From: "John Paul Dauber" <jpdauber@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Performance Tuning/Race Shops

John,
    I just had my engine rebuilt by GT-Pro. They probably aren't the
cheapest shop around, but I don't think you will be able to find a better
one anywhere. You get what you pay for...pay now..or pay much more
later...your decision. I don't think there have been any issues with Brian
trying to rip people off through GT-Pro. I have heard some rather bad things
about GT-Alley...but those days are long gone. BTW...don't go by the prices
on the website, most of them are MSRP and are outdated. The site has't been
updated recently as they are going to be launching a new site in the near
future.

John Paul Dauber
1991 VR-4



> To all those in Southern California...
>
> I'm looking for race/performance tuning shops here in southern california
that work on our cars and are reliable.  I checked out GT-Pro since they're
practically in my back yard but I've heard some very mixed things about
them.  I even found several complaints about them on a consumer affairs web
site about them ripping people off.  When I checked out their web site their
prices seemed rather high as well (compared to that of Altered Atmosphere,
which is nowhere near me).  Unfortunately, they're the only one I know of.
Does anyone else know of any other shops that work on our cars in so. cal?
TIA.
>
> John
> 1994 3000GT VR-4 (bone stock)
>



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Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 09:54:56 +0100
From: Roger Gerl <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Performance Tuning/Race Shops

>about GT-Alley...but those days are long gone. BTW...don't go by the prices
>on the website, most of them are MSRP and are outdated. The site has't been
>updated recently as they are going to be launching a new site in the near
>future.

Exactly, the site has not been updated since beginning of last December.
This because Brian has no time to send any information as well as he don't
want to spend money on a service for making the pages. I know, because I'm
(or was) the webmaster of GT-PRO. I'd not expect any chance within the next
weeks and it is always a good idea to call them directly.

Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch


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Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 01:49:49 -0800
From: Ferry Holidjaja <tetu@surfcity.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Performance Tuning/Race Shops

I just installed my Intrax springs today.
First, Brian set me up an appointment for 9am, but when I came there, he
asked me to come back at 1pm. And so I did come at 1pm. The installation
took about 3.5 hours.


- -----Original Message-----
From: Roger Gerl
To: Team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
Sent: 3/1/2001 12:54 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Performance Tuning/Race Shops


>about GT-Alley...but those days are long gone. BTW...don't go by the
prices
>on the website, most of them are MSRP and are outdated. The site has't
been
>updated recently as they are going to be launching a new site in the
near
>future.

Exactly, the site has not been updated since beginning of last December.

This because Brian has no time to send any information as well as he
don't
want to spend money on a service for making the pages. I know, because
I'm
(or was) the webmaster of GT-PRO. I'd not expect any chance within the
next
weeks and it is always a good idea to call them directly.

Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch


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Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 08:23:56 -0500
From: "Berrios, Victor L" <VLBerrios@rroads.med.navy.mil>
Subject: Team3S: '95 CD Changer on a '93 3GT

Question to the list:
Would a '93 CD changer fit on a '93 3kgt stereo?

Thanks for help on this.

Victor L. Berrios
'93 3000GT, Black, PR


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Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 08:52:01 -0500
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject: Team3S: Heater sluggishness

Cripes - here we go again ...

This morning like all others started out with starting the car for 5
minutes.  Then I drive the 10 minutes to meet my carpool ride.  Usually, in
about 2 minutes of driving the car is warm enough to turn on the heat and
feel all warm and cozy.  Recently (in the last month or so) the heater has
not been working so well.

It takes a full 8 minutes of driving before there is any heat.  Is this
going to be indicative of a heat fuse not working, something in the heater
coils that needs replaced?

Remember that is might be related to the other problems I have been
experiencing.  It does work eventually but takes some time to get there.

- --Flash!
1995 VR-4

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Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2001 09:03:50 -0500
From: "Judson Smith" <jsmith@fmbs.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Heater sluggishness

Have you replaced the thermostat?

Jud
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Schilberg, Darren <DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
To: Team3S (E-mail) <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 8:52 AM
Subject: Team3S: Heater sluggishness


> Cripes - here we go again ...
>
> This morning like all others started out with starting the car for 5
> minutes.  Then I drive the 10 minutes to meet my carpool ride.  Usually,
in
> about 2 minutes of driving the car is warm enough to turn on the heat and
> feel all warm and cozy.  Recently (in the last month or so) the heater has
> not been working so well.
>
> It takes a full 8 minutes of driving before there is any heat.  Is this
> going to be indicative of a heat fuse not working, something in the heater
> coils that needs replaced?
>
> Remember that is might be related to the other problems I have been
> experiencing.  It does work eventually but takes some time to get there.
>
> --Flash!
> 1995 VR-4
>
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