team3s           Thursday, February 1 2001           Volume 01 : Number 394




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Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 22:40:54 EST
From: Kdog109SD@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Intake Plenum (whole path !)

Roger, and all other that responded, I just wanted to thank you.  Roger..
that "whole path" you wrote about, that is genious.. really helpful..
although my car is a  non-turbo, I am gonna follow your advice and see how it
ends up, from the sounds of it, it seems like a good mod to do as a whole. 

Thanks
Kunal S.

In a message dated 01-01-31 13:11:21 EST, you write:

> I understand the smiley Jeff ;-)
>  Well, the exhaust path is not critical before the turbo as one should know
>  what keeps the turbine wheel turning. It's the pressure difference between
>  before and after the turbine ! So the higher the pressure before and the
>  lower the exhaust backpressure after the wheel the better the efficiency
of
>  the system ! This is why an open exhaust after the turbine outlet is what
>  is the best for high rpm while some backpressure should be there on the
low
>  rpm basis where the turbine doesn't act as a big restriction and the
engine
>  produces more tourque due to the backpressure.

>  >The largest restriction in your intake is your valve..anything ya do
>  >before that outside of larger ICs doesnt buy you a thing in a turbo
>  >environment.

>  There are many restrictions that can be found in the path but this is how
>  an engine is built. Some parts are designed for mass-production and
>  improvement can be found. Just have a look on my project page and one can
>  see the exhaust path after the valve and how it can be improved to prevent
>  restrictions and especially turbulences (our biggest emeny outside the
>  mufflers)

>  After the turbos, every bend in the piping acts like a restriction and the
>  IC itselfs is the biggest as it acts as a slow-down for the air stream.
>  Correctly said, the stream stays the same but pressure is slower built up
>  on a large intercooler.
>  Then there is a trhottle-body with the plate that is a restriction again
>  that causes heavy turbulence.
>  Now enter the intake plenum and find the rear core that allows to keep
>  enough pressure to provide a balanced feed to the cylinders. Of course,
>  this would be much better with a central or double feed.
>  Then the entries of the runners, not the best thing in the world but how
>  would one do it better for the mass ?
>  The runners lead to the intake manifold where we find a thin gasket that
is
>  larger than the openings. Gasket matching the 6 channels helps in
>  increasing the amount of air traveling per minute. Increasing the size of
>  the runners would increase the amount too but the same time the speed is
>  decreased what would result in an necessity to change the lenght of the
>  runners too !
>  Finally the path leads to the intake valves, where still a good turbulence
>  free mixture flow is needed.
>  The stock injectors do help in this case as they do have a dual spray
>  pattern. No larger injector does this and therefore is not optimal as it
>  sprays to the wall between the valves. Work on this part for the increased
>  pressure and amount of mixture. It should be machined to get the edge more
>  far away from the injector. This is also due to the fact that most
>  injectors are longer at their nozzle and do create more turbulence than
>  expected.
>  Finally the path to the valves is now optimized and the valve design gives
>  the intake stream the necessary swirl to provide an optimal filling of the
>  chamber. This can only be provided by a good fast stream with a high
>  velocity sent above the shape of the valve body.
>  For the outlet speed is also interesting, as the chamber should be
>  evaporated as fast as possible. The exhaust manifold then doesn't play a
>  big rule, at least not in our cars, as the turbine housing is what acts as
>  the biggest restriction. Before the turbine housing the pressure gets
>  increased and pushes against the turbine wheel. The wheel then turns and
>  the exhaust gases speed up in their velocity. The smaller diameter to the
>  turbine increases this while pressure stays the same or even increases due
>  to the increasing rpm. But if pressure becomes too high, the temperature
>  quickly rises and hits back into the chamber causing a lean situation...
>  what leads to detonation. This can be seen on high EGT as an example. now,
>  the exhaust manifold can be designed in many different ways, Kenne Bells
>  "Maximum Boost" gives a good description in that case.

>  Finally, if one does a modification to the intake or exhaust he always
>  should do the whole path because onyl the combination of these rules. So
it
>  isn't necessary to improve the exhaust part when there is no more mixture
>  that can be filled in !

>  Happy porting,
>  Roger
>  93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch

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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 04:20:42 -0500
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Re: F**king car thieves

Maybe the MX thief got to Hungary already.  We can only hope.

Anyway, on the "car tracker" (at least here in the US) it was only capable
of tracking in the large cities where a system has been installed (New York,
Los Angeles, Chicago, D.C., etc.) but their webpage now has lists of states
where it works although I assume only the large counties and not some
mid-western places (sorry, Merritt).

This particular system is called LoJack, http://www.lojack.com, and when
stolen you can call the police and they can track your car.  I am not sure
how your tracker works.  Maybe it is more like a fancy GPS system that can
tell you where it went to.  There are others out there too I'm sure.  The
initial LoJack system is $600 and the other bells and whistles cost more
(starter diabler, alarm, etc.).

The LoJack allows police to find out where it is at the current moment.
Fancy models (and cars like the Cadillac with the OnStar system) can
actually have the Police shut off the motor of the car and lock the doors.
Now THIS is a system I want on my next car.  Anyone know when the next
3000GT is coming out?  <grin>

- --Flash!
1995 VR-4 and never had a car stolen ... yet ... fortunately most people in
the US don't like to steal a manual transmission car anyway

- -----Original Message-----
From: Syncom [mailto:syncom@mail.digitel2002.hu]
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 19:05
To: Team3S
Subject: Team3S: Re: F**king car thieves

Now that's what I call luck. I'm happy for you. Since car thefts are also
a danger in our country, I had a tracker system put into my '95 SL. It
cost about 1700-1800 USD but I can take it with me into any future car I
buy,
and it's really amazing what it's capable of (detailed telemetry, etc.) You
might want to check out such a system, too. I can only heartily recommend.

Hope they'll also find the MX. In tonights news I heard police shot and
killed
a car thief while he tried to escape in our country. Hell, I was happy.

Best wishes,
Zsolt Kovacs
Budapest, Hungary

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Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 14:55:49 +0000
From: Gordon Tyrrell <gordon.tyrrell@openet-int.com>
Subject: Team3S: Replacing Steering column

Hi all.
The steering column in the car was bent by the thieves and needs to be
replaced. Is it possible to save my current steering wheel/Airbag and if
so is there anything I should know before I take it off?

Thanks
Gordon
Dublin, Ireland



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Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2001 07:23:55 -0800
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Replacing Steering column

Disconnect the battery and let sit a couple of minutes to make sure the airbag is disabled ---- then it's just a matter of
4 bolts on the back of the wheel to remove the trim and  the airbag comes out, there is a connector on the back. After
that a steering wheel puller is required --- you can buy a cheap one for $15 US. I think there are a couple of connectors
for the radio,  horn and cruise control on the airbag housing also, but all in all pretty easy.

        Jim Berry
=====================================
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Gordon Tyrrell <gordon.tyrrell@openet-int.com>
To: 3000gt <team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 6:55 AM
Subject: Team3S: Replacing Steering column


> Hi all.
> The steering column in the car was bent by the thieves and needs to be
> replaced. Is it possible to save my current steering wheel/Airbag and if
> so is there anything I should know before I take it off?
>
> Thanks
> Gordon
> Dublin, Ireland
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 09:18:33 -0800
From: "ian sweeney" <sween3000gt@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: funny ticking noise under hood

Noble,

a couple more clues. noise is definetly from the top end and changes with
engine revs.  Checked the oil and it is low but ok. oil pressure reads ok
also. on the way home i let everything heat up and then hit the freeway. the
car didnt seem to accelerate as smoothly as before and in 2nd and 3rd gear
over 5500rpm under hard acceleration there was a bad miss, not sure if
electric or timing. I can hear the ticking noise at idle only, above idle
road noise and engine noise drown out sound.  the noise sounds like its
coming from just under the inlet manifold (got ECI written on it in big
letters) and sounds really like tappets? any ideas?

thanks
ian


>From: "noble" <nketo@sympatico.ca>
>To: "ian sweeney" <sween3000gt@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: Team3S: funny ticking noise under hood
>Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 00:03:03 -0800
>
>You should be running a high weight synthetic like 10W40 ALL of the time.
>Regular oil will cake itself to critical turbo oil lines and bearings more
>easily than synthetic,
>leading to turbo failure.
>Too much oil is no good; it will interfere with the crankcase.
>
>I'd just change the oil it if I were you.  Expect about 5 quarts to fill
>the
>crankcase.
>Your oil pressure should read a good 1/2 to 3/4+ under full boost.
>Idle should have a minimum of about 1/4 to 1/3 (hot).
>
>If you are still concerned, a compression test will pinpoint problems
>within
>the engine
>further.
>Other than that, is there any other symptoms your car is showing?  (And
>under what conditions?)
>
>Best,
>Noble

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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 18:27:59 +0100
From: "Jim Matthews" <jim@the-matthews.com>
Subject: Team3S: FW: Customer Contact - RaceBrakes.com

Argh!  Guess I'll have to pull my brakes to make sure...

- -Jim, Munich

- -----Original Message-----
From: Wendy [mailto:timg@globalpac.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 5:30 AM
To: Jim Matthews
Subject: Re: Customer Contact - RaceBrakes.com


If you have a 94 Dodge Stealth AWD I show that is the correct pad. Dodge
didn't change the pads mid year like Mitsubishi did they waited for the next
year. You can place the order over the e-mail, or call us at (800) 537-6842.

Wendy


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <jim@the-matthews.com>
> To: <sales@porterfield-brakes.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 11:13 PM
> Subject: Customer Contact - RaceBrakes.com
>
>
> > Information From Porterfield-Brakes.com
> >
> > Originating from http://www.porterfield-brakes.com/contact.htm
> >
> > Email:      jim@the-matthews.com
> > Name:       Jim Matthews
> > Phone:      None Given
> > Address:    CMR 407 Box 124
> > City:       APO
> > Locale:     Germany
> > Zip/Postal: 09098
> > Country:    United States
> >
> > comments:   I'm confused by the part numbers listed on the Porterfield
web
> site:
> >
> > R4S  DODGE  Stealth 4wd Turbo  91-94       AP531  $89.00   AP532  69.00
> > R4S  DODGE  Stealth 4wd        95-96       AP531  $89.00   AP631  99.00
> > R4S  MITSUBISHI  3000 GT VR-4  4/90-5/93   AP531  $89.00   AP532  69.00
> > R4S  MITSUBISHI  3000 GT VR-4  6/93-98     AP531  $89.00   AP631  99.00
> >
> > I have a '94 TT and bought the AP532 rear pads several months ago
(haven't
> installed them yet).  Did I get the wrong ones?
> >
> > I can't remember how I ordered these pads, either... I need a set of R4S
> pads for the front and can't find the order form on the Porterfield site!
> >
> >
> > Referring page: http://www.porterfield-brakes.com/contact.htm
> > User address: 212.72.67.137
> > User host: fp.baycix.de
> >
>


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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:09:51 +0100
From: "Jim Matthews" <jim@the-matthews.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: FW: Customer Contact - RaceBrakes.com

Just pulled them and Porterfield is WRONG - AP 631 it is!  Sent them a
picture and my VIN to encourage them to fix their catalog and web
application list.

- -Jim, Munich


- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Jim Matthews
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 6:28 PM
To: Team3S
Subject: Team3S: FW: Customer Contact - RaceBrakes.com


Argh!  Guess I'll have to pull my brakes to make sure...

- -Jim, Munich

- -----Original Message-----
From: Wendy [mailto:timg@globalpac.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 5:30 AM
To: Jim Matthews
Subject: Re: Customer Contact - RaceBrakes.com


If you have a 94 Dodge Stealth AWD I show that is the correct pad. Dodge
didn't change the pads mid year like Mitsubishi did they waited for the next
year. You can place the order over the e-mail, or call us at (800) 537-6842.

Wendy


> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <jim@the-matthews.com>
> To: <sales@porterfield-brakes.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 11:13 PM
> Subject: Customer Contact - RaceBrakes.com
>
>
> > Information From Porterfield-Brakes.com
> >
> > Originating from http://www.porterfield-brakes.com/contact.htm
> >
> > Email:      jim@the-matthews.com
> > Name:       Jim Matthews
> > Phone:      None Given
> > Address:    CMR 407 Box 124
> > City:       APO
> > Locale:     Germany
> > Zip/Postal: 09098
> > Country:    United States
> >
> > comments:   I'm confused by the part numbers listed on the Porterfield
web
> site:
> >
> > R4S  DODGE  Stealth 4wd Turbo  91-94       AP531  $89.00   AP532  69.00
> > R4S  DODGE  Stealth 4wd        95-96       AP531  $89.00   AP631  99.00
> > R4S  MITSUBISHI  3000 GT VR-4  4/90-5/93   AP531  $89.00   AP532  69.00
> > R4S  MITSUBISHI  3000 GT VR-4  6/93-98     AP531  $89.00   AP631  99.00
> >
> > I have a '94 TT and bought the AP532 rear pads several months ago
(haven't
> installed them yet).  Did I get the wrong ones?
> >
> > I can't remember how I ordered these pads, either... I need a set of R4S
> pads for the front and can't find the order form on the Porterfield site!
> >
> >
> > Referring page: http://www.porterfield-brakes.com/contact.htm
> > User address: 212.72.67.137
> > User host: fp.baycix.de
> >
>


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Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 10:31:00 -0800
From: Daniel Jett <djett@corp.ultratech.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: funny ticking noise under hood

Ian,

It sounds to me like a fuel injector solenoid is going bad. This can explain why you are experiencing a power drain.

Try this: Get a long metal rod and place it near each injector location. Cup your hand around the end and put your ear to it. This will help you isolate the exact location...

Good luck,

Dan J
94 Stealth TT

>>> "ian sweeney" <sween3000gt@hotmail.com> - 2/1/01 9:18 AM >>>
Noble,

a couple more clues. noise is definetly from the top end and changes with
engine revs.  Checked the oil and it is low but ok. oil pressure reads ok
also. on the way home i let everything heat up and then hit the freeway. the
car didnt seem to accelerate as smoothly as before and in 2nd and 3rd gear
over 5500rpm under hard acceleration there was a bad miss, not sure if
electric or timing. I can hear the ticking noise at idle only, above idle
road noise and engine noise drown out sound.  the noise sounds like its
coming from just under the inlet manifold (got ECI written on it in big
letters) and sounds really like tappets? any ideas?

thanks
ian


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  

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Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 14:21:28 -0500
From: Marc Jonathan Jacobs <Marc.Jacobs@usa.alcatel.com>
Subject: Team3S: timing belt tools

Anyone in the Raleigh, NC area want to sell/lend/rent me the 2 tools
required to do the timing belt?  Tallahasee Mitsu, Norco, West Broad and
Sunrise Mitsu are on 2 week order, the local dealerships don't have it
either. 

In fact, you don't have to be in the Raliegh area if you are willing to
ship them to me.  I will pay shipping, but I need them by Saturday AM,
so on my honor I will reimburse your shipping in the return package. 

As an update, I have ordered all the 120K service stuff for my water
pump leak. 

TYIA
- --
Marc J. Jacobs Blue '94 VR-4 sitting in a puddle at 105K miles.
xDSL Hardware Development
Alcatel, USA     (919) 850-6386

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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 14:28:42 -0500
From: "Judson Smith" <jsmith@fmbs.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: timing belt tools

I am looking for someone to copy me a 1995 3000 GT base manual. When I
recently bought the car, it wasn't in the glove compartment. I will pay all
shipping of course, and a small fee for photocopying. Thanks,

Judson Smith


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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 14:50:52 -0500
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Car manuals (was Team3S: timing belt tools)

I have a 1995 VR-4 manual which will cover everything for you for the most
part.  Let me know offline if you want a copy of this or if anyone else
would need a copy of it.

They are also only $15 from the dealer and take about a week.  This allows
you to send in the register card in the front and officially register with
Mitsubishi for future updates, recalls, technical service bulletins, etc.

Maybe we could persuade Vineet to scan some of these manuals and put them on
the next updated Manuals on CD.

- --Flash!
dschilberg@freemarkets.com

3Si #577
1995 VR-4
http://www.ec3s.org/images/members/flash001full.jpg

- -----Original Message-----
From: Judson Smith [mailto:jsmith@fmbs.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 14:29
To: Marc Jonathan Jacobs; Team3S; stealth dragnet
Subject: Re: Team3S: timing belt tools

I am looking for someone to copy me a 1995 3000 GT base manual. When I
recently bought the car, it wasn't in the glove compartment. I will pay all
shipping of course, and a small fee for photocopying. Thanks,

Judson Smith


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Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 12:54:36 -0800
From: "ian sweeney" <sween3000gt@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: funny ticking noise under hood

Cup your hand around the end and put your ear to it. This will help you
isolate the exact location.....OR get electrocuted!!  i'll try it though,

thanks
ian


>From: Daniel Jett <djett@corp.ultratech.com>
>To: sween3000gt@hotmail.com, nketo@sympatico.ca
>CC: team3s-digest@mail.stealth-3000gt.st
>Subject: Re: Team3S: funny ticking noise under hood
>Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 10:31:00 -0800
>
>Ian,
>
>It sounds to me like a fuel injector solenoid is going bad. This can
>explain why you are experiencing a power drain.
>
>Try this: Get a long metal rod and place it near each injector location.
>Cup your hand around the end and put your ear to it. This will help you
>isolate the exact location...
>
>Good luck,
>
>Dan J
>94 Stealth TT
>
> >>> "ian sweeney" <sween3000gt@hotmail.com> - 2/1/01 9:18 AM >>>
>Noble,
>
>a couple more clues. noise is definetly from the top end and changes with
>engine revs.  Checked the oil and it is low but ok. oil pressure reads ok
>also. on the way home i let everything heat up and then hit the freeway.
>the
>car didnt seem to accelerate as smoothly as before and in 2nd and 3rd gear
>over 5500rpm under hard acceleration there was a bad miss, not sure if
>electric or timing. I can hear the ticking noise at idle only, above idle
>road noise and engine noise drown out sound.  the noise sounds like its
>coming from just under the inlet manifold (got ECI written on it in big
>letters) and sounds really like tappets? any ideas?
>
>thanks
>ian
>
>
>

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Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 13:08:14 -0800
From: Daniel Jett <djett@corp.ultratech.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: funny ticking noise under hood

You can't get electrocuted...but if it worries you, use a wooden dowel.

DJ

>>> "ian sweeney" <sween3000gt@hotmail.com> - 2/1/01 12:54 PM >>>
Cup your hand around the end and put your ear to it. This will help you
isolate the exact location.....OR get electrocuted!!  i'll try it though,

thanks
ian


>From: Daniel Jett <djett@corp.ultratech.com>
>To: sween3000gt@hotmail.com, nketo@sympatico.ca
>
>Ian,
>
>It sounds to me like a fuel injector solenoid is going bad. This can
>explain why you are experiencing a power drain.
>
>Try this: Get a long metal rod and place it near each injector location.
>Cup your hand around the end and put your ear to it. This will help you
>isolate the exact location...
>
>Good luck,
>
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      

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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 14:09:32 -0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Replacing Steering column

ya..those come off dead easy.  Shouldnt be a problem keeping those at all.

On Thu, 1 Feb 2001, Gordon Tyrrell wrote:

> Hi all.
> The steering column in the car was bent by the thieves and needs to be
> replaced. Is it possible to save my current steering wheel/Airbag and if
> so is there anything I should know before I take it off?
>
> Thanks
> Gordon
> Dublin, Ireland
>
>
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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 23:18:38 +0100
From: "Jim Matthews" <jim@the-matthews.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: FW: Customer Contact - RaceBrakes.com

Porterfield has agreed to exchange my pads for the correct ones and will
waive the $30 price difference as compensation for the inconvenience.
They're a good outfit.  Now if only they'd add a secure order form to their
web site and ship USPS to my APO address!

Does anyone know the build date when the larger rear brake pads first
appeared on the Stealth Turbo?  Here's all I could offer them:

%%%
  Regarding the correction to your catalog/web page, I understand that the
Dodge Stealth and Mitsubishi 3000GT were built at the same assembly plant in
Japan.  I don't know if the transition date for the rear brake pads is
exactly the same for the Stealth and 3000GT (your web page lists the latter
as 6/93), but if it helps, my particular '94 Stealth has a build date of
11/93.
%%%

- -Jim Matthews, Munich


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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 23:24:09 +0100
From: "Roger Gerl \(RTEC\)" <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Team3S: Picture of an installed K&M Filtercharger needed (OFF TOPIC)

I need some good pictures of any car with an installed K&N Filtercharger
that I can put onto the upcomming parts page for my site -- if possible with
the monting braket shown.

If you have some, please send it to me privately,

Thanks in advance
Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch



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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 18:06:08 -0800
From: "noble" <nketo@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Team3S: funny ticking noise under hood

Ian,

You might be discribing two different problems.
1)A ticking noise
2)Power loss at high loads

The first is something I've noticed in my car for a while; it even clangs
around a bit with the
clutch dissengaged and in neutral idle.  I wouldn't be too worried if this
is the case; 8 years for me.

The latter might be because of your plugs blowing out under boost, or a
faulty injector(s).
Either way, you're gonna have to take off your intake plenium (ECI letters)
to check it out.
Your injectors can be professionally flow tested/cleaned, and your plugs
replaced with a gap of .032-.035
I change my plugs about every 2 years (20K) to play safe.

If this doesn't cut it, compression test the cylinders.

Best,
Noble

- ----- Original Message -----
From: ian sweeney <sween3000gt@hotmail.com>
To: <nketo@sympatico.ca>
Cc: <team3s-digest@mail.stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: funny ticking noise under hood


> Noble,
>
> a couple more clues. noise is definetly from the top end and changes with
> engine revs.  Checked the oil and it is low but ok. oil pressure reads ok
> also. on the way home i let everything heat up and then hit the freeway.
the
> car didnt seem to accelerate as smoothly as before and in 2nd and 3rd gear
> over 5500rpm under hard acceleration there was a bad miss, not sure if
> electric or timing. I can hear the ticking noise at idle only, above idle
> road noise and engine noise drown out sound.  the noise sounds like its
> coming from just under the inlet manifold (got ECI written on it in big
> letters) and sounds really like tappets? any ideas?
>
> thanks
> ian



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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 23:48:40 +0100
From: "Roger Gerl \(RTEC\)" <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Picture of an installed K&M Filtercharger needed (OFF TOPIC)

Thanks for the response guys, but please note :

I need pictures of the K&N Filtercharger (for 2nd gen DSMs) installed and
NOT the K&N FIPK.

Thanks again
Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch


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Date: 1 Feb 2001 16:23:38 -0800
From: kristie1@thesimpsons.com
Subject: Team3S: catalytic converters

Is there any way to unclog catalytic converters>?


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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 20:19:36 -0500
From: "WALTER D. BEST" <WDBO39@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: catalytic converters

If it's one of your pre-cats you can gut it but you'll have to do both.  If
it's your main cat, short of gutting that, there is nothing you can do but
purchase a new one.  Or you can take your chances and run without one, of
course no one would do that would they (wink, wink).

If you did remove it, that would give you a good excuse to lower your car,
and make sure you turn it off if/when you are pulled over too.  Cops for the
most part don't want to have to roll around on the ground to check to see if
you have a cat on or not.  And if you have to go through emission inspection
then you can worry about it then and maybe find a used one.  ATR downpipe
will very nicely eliminate your main cat.  But of course this is for off
road use only.  Oh, you are only talking about 6 bolts to remove the ATR and
re-install you old cat and downpipe.

Dave Best
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Subject: Team3S: catalytic converters


> Is there any way to unclog catalytic converters>?
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Date: Thu, 01 Feb 2001 17:20:51 -0800
From: "ian sweeney" <sween3000gt@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: funny ticking noise under hood

Noble,
I think to an extent you are right. THe ticking noise was there previously.
It is now verging on knocking so it may in fact be a different issue. 
Somebody else suggested an injector solenoid which might tally with a miss
at high rpm. The miss didnt seemt to be worse in 3rd than 2nd, so that would
suggest its independent of load so maybe not the plugs. My guess is the
injectors. anyway all will be revealed tomorrow cos i'm off to the dealer in
the morning.

thanks
Ian


>From: "noble" <nketo@sympatico.ca>
>To: "ian sweeney" <sween3000gt@hotmail.com>
>CC: <team3s-digest@mail.stealth-3000gt.st>
>Subject: Re: Team3S: funny ticking noise under hood
>Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 18:06:08 -0800
>
>Ian,
>
>You might be discribing two different problems.
>1)A ticking noise
>2)Power loss at high loads
>
>The first is something I've noticed in my car for a while; it even clangs
>around a bit with the
>clutch dissengaged and in neutral idle.  I wouldn't be too worried if this
>is the case; 8 years for me.
>
>The latter might be because of your plugs blowing out under boost, or a
>faulty injector(s).
>Either way, you're gonna have to take off your intake plenium (ECI letters)
>to check it out.
>Your injectors can be professionally flow tested/cleaned, and your plugs
>replaced with a gap of .032-.035
>I change my plugs about every 2 years (20K) to play safe.
>
>If this doesn't cut it, compression test the cylinders.
>
>Best,
>Noble
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: ian sweeney <sween3000gt@hotmail.com>
>To: <nketo@sympatico.ca>
>Cc: <team3s-digest@mail.stealth-3000gt.st>
>Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 9:18 AM
>Subject: Re: Team3S: funny ticking noise under hood
>
>
> > Noble,
> >
> > a couple more clues. noise is definetly from the top end and changes
>with
> > engine revs.  Checked the oil and it is low but ok. oil pressure reads
>ok
> > also. on the way home i let everything heat up and then hit the freeway.
>the
> > car didnt seem to accelerate as smoothly as before and in 2nd and 3rd
>gear
> > over 5500rpm under hard acceleration there was a bad miss, not sure if
> > electric or timing. I can hear the ticking noise at idle only, above
>idle
> > road noise and engine noise drown out sound.  the noise sounds like its
> > coming from just under the inlet manifold (got ECI written on it in big
> > letters) and sounds really like tappets? any ideas?
> >
> > thanks
> > ian
>
>

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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:38:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: catalytic converters

Ya..gut it.

But if you want to maintain a working one..yes.

Replace it.

On 1 Feb 2001 kristie1@thesimpsons.com wrote:

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Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 19:52:40 -0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Team3S: Race Day Coming..

Team3s Related Content:

Has anyone found, or attempted to use other manuf. sized bushing
replacements on a VR4?  Im almost at the point where we'll be considering
suspension options, and this is a good time to do so for us if we even
- -have- the option of doing so. 

Lastly..for everyone who had interest in attending the Buttonwillow
open-track event with us next weekend..its time to get set! *g*

Reply to me privately please.  We also have room in our cars/truck for
some passengers if anyone wants to tag along (or caravan down with the
group) to spectate and ride along..etc.

Let me know.


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