team3s            Sunday, January 28 2001            Volume 01 : Number 390




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Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 19:18:06 -0500
From: Steve Lasher <s_lasher@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Team3S: Re: 94+ Brake Upgrade

Thanks for all the info/discussion on the brake upgrade.  I have a 92 VR-4,
so for the front, basically all I need are the 94+ mounting brackets and
rotors, correct?  I have 18" wheels already.  I just need to cut the dust
shield, put on the 94 rotors and 94 brackets, then bolt up the old
calipers, and I'm good to go, right?  Anyone know a good place to get the
mounting brackets?  I'll worry about the rears later.

- -Steve Lasher
'92 VR-4

P.S. You're right John, I want/need the Big Reds, I just can't afford them
right now :-(


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Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 16:31:13 -0800 (PST)
From: Jeff Lucius <stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: 94+ Brake Upgrade

Steve,

Better go look at your calipers or look at the "Hub and Knuckle" page
in the "Front Suspension" section of your service manual. The
"brackets" are part of the caliper, not separate. Two bolts hold the
caliper onto the hub assemmbly. You will need 1994+ calipers for this
conversion.

Jeff Lucius, www.stealth316.com

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Lasher" <s_lasher@bellsouth.net>
To: <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 5:18 PM
Subject: Team3S: Re: 94+ Brake Upgrade

Thanks for all the info/discussion on the brake upgrade.  I have a 92
VR-4, so for the front, basically all I need are the 94+ mounting
brackets and rotors, correct?  I have 18" wheels already.  I just
need to cut the dust shield, put on the 94 rotors and 94 brackets,
then bolt up the old calipers, and I'm good to go, right?  Anyone
know a good place to get the mounting brackets?  I'll worry about the
rears later.

- -Steve Lasher
'92 VR-4

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Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 22:33:05 -0500
From: Ken Stanton <tt007ken@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S: Lightweight flywheel

Hello all =)

Anyone ever investigated the mod of a putting on a light-weight
flywheel?  Just curious if this is the same kind of debate as the
underdrive pulley...

Thanks!
Ken Stanton
'91 Pearl White RT/TT
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Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 19:38:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Lightweight flywheel

I have on many of my cars, and the one I have for our race project..WITH
the clutch and pressure plate is lighter than the stock flywheel alone.

Lightweight flywheels:

1)  Help you rev up quicker, adding acceleration W/O adding more power.
2)  Will affect how smooth the car idles.  Nothing wrong there, just wont
be as smooth on some cars.
3)  Will affect how you leave a dead stop.  It'll take slightly more gas
to get rolling without stalling.

All in all, a good idear'

On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Ken Stanton wrote:

> Hello all =)
>
> Anyone ever investigated the mod of a putting on a light-weight
> flywheel?  Just curious if this is the same kind of debate as the
> underdrive pulley...
>
> Thanks!
> Ken Stanton
> '91 Pearl White RT/TT
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/3SI_Rochester
>
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Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 22:44:15 -0500
From: Ken Stanton <tt007ken@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Lightweight flywheel

So, there are no real risks of misbalance or whatnot?

Ken

Geoff Mohler wrote:

> I have on many of my cars, and the one I have for our race project..WITH
> the clutch and pressure plate is lighter than the stock flywheel alone.
>
> Lightweight flywheels:
>
> 1)  Help you rev up quicker, adding acceleration W/O adding more power.
> 2)  Will affect how smooth the car idles.  Nothing wrong there, just wont
> be as smooth on some cars.
> 3)  Will affect how you leave a dead stop.  It'll take slightly more gas
> to get rolling without stalling.
>
> All in all, a good idear'
>
> On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Ken Stanton wrote:
>
> > Hello all =)
> >
> > Anyone ever investigated the mod of a putting on a light-weight
> > flywheel?  Just curious if this is the same kind of debate as the
> > underdrive pulley...
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Ken Stanton
> > '91 Pearl White RT/TT
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/3SI_Rochester
> >
> >
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Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 20:11:22 -0800
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Lightweight flywheel

Ken

The issue with the underdrive pulley  is that it has no ability to dampen
vibrations and ringing in the crankshaft --- the stock pulley [ and the one
from Buschur ] has rubber isolation band which serves to dampen high
frequency vibrations. There are no similar issues with the flywheel, it's
job is  only to provide a clutch mating surface and smooth out the engine
pulses
Geoff added the benefits of a lighter pulley.  I have one also athough it's
not installed yet.

        Jim Berry
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From: Ken Stanton <tt007ken@yahoo.com>
 
> Anyone ever investigated the mod of a putting on a light-weight
> flywheel?  Just curious if this is the same kind of debate as the
> underdrive pulley...



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Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 02:05:23 -0500
From: "Mihai Raicu" <aa2345@wayne.edu>
Subject: Team3S: RE: Checking Manual Trani fluid

Karl,

Don't forget to also check the clutch fluid.  The little container is by the
windshield in the driver's side corner of the engine bay.  The cap is a pain
to take off and even worst to put back on.  Go through the trouble to take
the cap off, please, otherwise you can be fooled.  Then change the trannie
fluid.  That reminds me.  I got to change mine.

- -MIKE-          aa2345@wayne.edu
95 Red VR4
Apexi AVC-R Electronic Boost Controller
K&N FIPK, Boost Gauge, EGT Meter

Detroit Metro Area, Michigan

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snip:
From: "Karl Siebert" <ksiebert@gow.org>
Subject: Team3S: Checking Manual Trani fluid

I have a 91' stealth ES.  It is a 5 speed manual and has been shifting a bit
rough, especially into 2nd gear, but sometimes rough into all of the other
gears.
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Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 08:28:04 -0500
From: "Trent" <bdtrent@netzero.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: SRS Light

Roger,

The service manual clearly states that in the event of a discharged battery
or a disconnected fuse, while the ignition switch is in the on position, the
SRS light will come on and stay on until the ignition switch is cycled on
and off 10 times.  I had the same problem with my 92TT and cycling the
ignition worked.  Its possible that something else is causing your SRS
fault.

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Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 14:16:49 -0500
From: "Michael Bulaon" <profilevr4@3000gtvr4.net>
Subject: Team3S: Which aftermarket 18x8.5 or larger rims will fit a 2nd Gen VR-4.

Hello, all.

First off, I'm new to this list. I first registered with this list last
month. So in light of this I'd like to introduce myself.

My name is Michael Bulaon and I am a proud owner of a 95 3000GT VR-4 which I
acquired last August. I find this list to be a great source for technical
info on our cars, and I hope to make some new friends on this list.

Ok, here's my question.


I'm in the market for a set of aftermarket rims. After doing some research,
I've found that even with the correct size and offset, some rims will not
fit a 2nd gen VR-4.

So my hopes with this post is that someone can provide me a listing of
aftermarket rims in the size 18x8.5 or larger that have been found to fit a
2nd gen VR-4 perfectly. Or anyone with aftermarket rims in these sizes on
their car, to post what brand/size/offset they have.

Please specify the brand, size, offset, and tire size if replying.

All responses appreciated,
Thanks in advace,

Michael Bulaon

P.S. I'm planning on posting the info I get on a webpage I'm doing for my
car at http://www.3000gtvr4.net. So again, all responses are greatly
appreciated.


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Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 14:28:08 -0500
From: "Judson Smith" <jsmith@fmbs.com>
Subject: Team3S: Northeast Get Together

Dear Fellow Members,

I am posing this question to the entire group: Is there any gatherings for
the list planned for the coming spring, summer or fall? I am anxious to get
together with other 3000GT/VR4 Owners to talk shop, drink beverages, and
gain new friends. I am located up here in Maine. Portland would be a
beautiful place to have a gathering, with a trip up the coast, maybe to
Arcadia National Park. I would be more than willing to put something
together for everyone....
I've come across get togethers from years past, but haven't seen anything
for the coming year... Thanks....Judson Smith   1995  Caracass Red 3000GT
base


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Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 14:40:48 EST
From: FRAGU172@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Rochester gathering

Jud, the Rochester 3Si chapter (3Si-R) is putting the preliminary details on
our gathering in june/july dates TBA, ive sent out invites to all people
registered on daveblacks universe page who live in NY and PA, soon to be OH
and MI, also we may include vermont and NH, i see you live in maine.. would
you be willing to come to Rochester NY? if so. privatley write me back and
ill Fwd you the prelims. this invite is also extended to anyone who would
like to take a nice drive up the 90 to hang out with the ROCHESTER chapter!
gonna be fun.. we have an experienced gathering member actually hes the
founder of 3Si-R ken stanton. hes a list member also.. so if you have any
questions you can contact either him or i as we will be working together to
get this baby off the ground   
good day gentelmen GO RAVENS!
- -§teven J
93 3kgt

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Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 11:57:39 -0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Lightweight flywheel

No, our motors do not balance externally.  However its a Good Idear'(tm)
if you have the chance to get a shop to balance the
flywheel/clutch/pressure-plate assembly as a unit if you got the
oppourtunity.

On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Ken Stanton wrote:

> So, there are no real risks of misbalance or whatnot?
>
> Ken
>
> Geoff Mohler wrote:
>
> > I have on many of my cars, and the one I have for our race project..WITH
> > the clutch and pressure plate is lighter than the stock flywheel alone.
> >
> > Lightweight flywheels:
> >
> > 1)  Help you rev up quicker, adding acceleration W/O adding more power.
> > 2)  Will affect how smooth the car idles.  Nothing wrong there, just wont
> > be as smooth on some cars.
> > 3)  Will affect how you leave a dead stop.  It'll take slightly more gas
> > to get rolling without stalling.
> >
> > All in all, a good idear'
> >
> > On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Ken Stanton wrote:
> >
> > > Hello all =)
> > >
> > > Anyone ever investigated the mod of a putting on a light-weight
> > > flywheel?  Just curious if this is the same kind of debate as the
> > > underdrive pulley...
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > > Ken Stanton
> > > '91 Pearl White RT/TT
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/3SI_Rochester
> > >
> > >
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Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 11:59:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Lightweight flywheel

My new Buschur one (its resold..NOT Buschur's for a bit of trivia" is
dampened via fluid.  Slightly different design.

Same net effect, just different more 'spensive way of doing it.

Also its much more of a generic design for the company that actually makes
it and allows them to apply the same 'expensive' core of the engineering
effort to many other cars.

I know who makes it..just being kind to Buschur and not tellin'.

On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Jim Berry wrote:

> Ken
>
> The issue with the underdrive pulley  is that it has no ability to dampen
> vibrations and ringing in the crankshaft --- the stock pulley [ and the one
> from Buschur ] has rubber isolation band which serves to dampen high
> frequency vibrations. There are no similar issues with the flywheel, it's
> job is  only to provide a clutch mating surface and smooth out the engine
> pulses
> Geoff added the benefits of a lighter pulley.  I have one also athough it's
> not installed yet.
>
>         Jim Berry
> ============================================
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ken Stanton <tt007ken@yahoo.com>

> > Anyone ever investigated the mod of a putting on a light-weight
> > flywheel?  Just curious if this is the same kind of debate as the
> > underdrive pulley...
>
>
>
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Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 16:06:50 -0000
From: "Sam Shelat" <sshelat@erols.com>
Subject: Team3S: Re: Rear shock removal question

I am having a problem removing the rear shock from the lower mounting
position.  The bolt is off, but the shock will not slide off its perch.  I
have used a block of wood and a sledge, air hammer and an axe handle.
Anybody have any advice or tips?  Did I miss something?  Any thoughts or
experiences would be appreciated.  I usually see Midas guys just take a
torch and cut the old shocks in half, but thats not an option for me since I
do not have an acetylene torch.

Sam


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Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 17:06:28 -0600
From: "Mark Wendlandt" <stealth_tt@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: Rear shock removal question

I had a tough with mine as well.  I was using a gear puller(2-arm) with a
washer that would fit inside the lower mount so I would not damage the
threads with the puller.  One side came off with ease...the other did not. 
I used heat(not to cut) and really pulled with the puller.  I thought that I
would actually pull the strut off leaving the rubber mount behind, but it
eventually came off.  I then cleaned everything up with a wire wheel and
greased it up before putting it back together.

Good luck!

Mark Wendlandt
'91RT/TT


>From: "Sam Shelat" <sshelat@erols.com>
>To: <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
>Subject: Team3S: Re: Rear shock removal question
>Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 16:06:50 -0000
>
>I am having a problem removing the rear shock from the lower mounting
>position.  The bolt is off, but the shock will not slide off its perch.  I
>have used a block of wood and a sledge, air hammer and an axe handle.
>Anybody have any advice or tips?  Did I miss something?  Any thoughts or
>experiences would be appreciated.  I usually see Midas guys just take a
>torch and cut the old shocks in half, but thats not an option for me since
>I
>do not have an acetylene torch.
>
>Sam
>
>
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Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 20:58:27 -0500
From: "Trent" <bdtrent@netzero.net>
Subject: Team3S: Camber Settings

All,

Can anyone recommend a rear camber setting.  I've set the fronts to -1.25.
Should the rear match or would a different setting be of use for open track.
BTW, using a 24" carpenters square and a set of dial calipers makes
measuring/adjusting camber a snap.

Regards,
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