team3s            Friday, January 19 2001            Volume 01 : Number 382




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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:48:58 -0500
From: GREG RUSH <rush@siscom.net>
Subject: Team3S: rps stage 3

RPS stage three is in the car and it is TWICE as hard to press as the
stock clutch is this normal?


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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:08:50 -0600
From: "Trevor L. James" <trevor@kscable.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: rps stage 3

I've got a stage 2 and it's somewhere around 1.5-1.6 times as hard as he
stock clutch.

Trevor
96 R/T TT
12.17@116.3
92 GMC Typhoon
13.96@96.4

GREG RUSH wrote:

> RPS stage three is in the car and it is TWICE as hard to press as the
> stock clutch is this normal?
>
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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 22:55:59 -0500
From: "Bill Miller" <millebi@kw.igs.net>
Subject: Team3S: Gas Guage is suddenly backwards ?!?

Hi Guys/Gals,

I have just discovered an interesting problem. I had noticed that last weekend that I had 1/2 a
tank of gas and that as this week has progressed the gas guage has been going UP on a daily basis.
Tonight the "low fuel" light came on indicating that I was almost out of gas, even though the guage
was indicating 9/10th of a tank (almost full). After putting $20 (at 87.9c /Litre) the guage didn't
move, and I am assuming it is now dead.

I'm assuming that this is electrical in nature, but I'm wondering where to start looking. Would
this be caused by the ground wire coming off of the sending unit in the gas tank or is there
somewhere else that I should start looking first?

Thanks,
Bill
91 TT "Old Red"
Humpty Dumpty was pushed...

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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:30:09 -0800 (PST)
From: George Kuo <amkreadgto@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S: Blown Head Gasket...

Hi Team,

My RT/TT is blowing major smoke.  Diagnois from GTPro
is blown (composit) head gaskets. All other components
should be fine.  The car runs fine.. just lots of
stinky smoke.. especially when accel and letting off
the gas..

Now the questions...

1) How does one go about in fixing this problem?
Simply remove the head and replace the gaskets without
pulling the engine?

2) Does the heads needs to be machined smooth?

3) Just what other things should/needs to be done?

Thanks,
George

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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:37:32 -0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Blown Head Gasket...

What color smoke?

On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, George Kuo wrote:

> Hi Team,
>
> My RT/TT is blowing major smoke.  Diagnois from GTPro
> is blown (composit) head gaskets. All other components
> should be fine.  The car runs fine.. just lots of
> stinky smoke.. especially when accel and letting off
> the gas..
>
> Now the questions...
>
> 1) How does one go about in fixing this problem?
> Simply remove the head and replace the gaskets without
> pulling the engine?
>
> 2) Does the heads needs to be machined smooth?
>
> 3) Just what other things should/needs to be done?
>
> Thanks,
> George
>
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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:48:35 -0800 (PST)
From: George Kuo <amkreadgto@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Blown Head Gasket...

white ish.. oil in the exhaust tip too..
- --- Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com> wrote:
> What color smoke?
>
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, George Kuo wrote:
>
> > Hi Team,
> >
> > My RT/TT is blowing major smoke.  Diagnois from
> GTPro
> > is blown (composit) head gaskets. All other
> components
> > should be fine.  The car runs fine.. just lots of
> > stinky smoke.. especially when accel and letting
> off
> > the gas..
> >
> > Now the questions...
> >
> > 1) How does one go about in fixing this problem?
> > Simply remove the head and replace the gaskets
> without
> > pulling the engine?
> >
> > 2) Does the heads needs to be machined smooth?
> >
> > 3) Just what other things should/needs to be done?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > George
> >
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> >
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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:51:39 -0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Blown Head Gasket...

Ohh..with oil too eh..

Does it do it ALL the time, or just when warmed up?


On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, George Kuo wrote:

> white ish.. oil in the exhaust tip too..
> --- Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com> wrote:
> > What color smoke?
> >
> > On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, George Kuo wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Team,
> > >
> > > My RT/TT is blowing major smoke.  Diagnois from
> > GTPro
> > > is blown (composit) head gaskets. All other
> > components
> > > should be fine.  The car runs fine.. just lots of
> > > stinky smoke.. especially when accel and letting
> > off
> > > the gas..
> > >
> > > Now the questions...
> > >
> > > 1) How does one go about in fixing this problem?
> > > Simply remove the head and replace the gaskets
> > without
> > > pulling the engine?
> > >
> > > 2) Does the heads needs to be machined smooth?
> > >
> > > 3) Just what other things should/needs to be done?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > George
> > >
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> > >
> >
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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:52:57 -0800 (PST)
From: George Kuo <amkreadgto@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Blown Head Gasket...

It doesnt smoke at all when starting and heating up
the car.. only when i start driving.. and puffs ALOT
of smoke when I shift gear..

theres also alot of moisture underside the oil cap..
coolant??
- --- Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com> wrote:
> Ohh..with oil too eh..
>
> Does it do it ALL the time, or just when warmed up?
>
>
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, George Kuo wrote:
>
> > white ish.. oil in the exhaust tip too..
> > --- Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
> wrote:
> > > What color smoke?
> > >
> > > On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, George Kuo wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Team,
> > > >
> > > > My RT/TT is blowing major smoke.  Diagnois
> from
> > > GTPro
> > > > is blown (composit) head gaskets. All other
> > > components
> > > > should be fine.  The car runs fine.. just lots
> of
> > > > stinky smoke.. especially when accel and
> letting
> > > off
> > > > the gas..
> > > >
> > > > Now the questions...
> > > >
> > > > 1) How does one go about in fixing this
> problem?
> > > > Simply remove the head and replace the gaskets
> > > without
> > > > pulling the engine?
> > > >
> > > > 2) Does the heads needs to be machined smooth?
> > > >
> > > > 3) Just what other things should/needs to be
> done?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > George
> > > >
> > > >
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Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 23:56:19 -0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Blown Head Gasket...

Ya..BHG.  I was gonna say if it didnt smoke at startup, and only when
warm..its BHG.  If it smoked ALL the time..it might be just oil.

Sorry to hear it..

On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, George Kuo wrote:

> It doesnt smoke at all when starting and heating up
> the car.. only when i start driving.. and puffs ALOT
> of smoke when I shift gear..
>
> theres also alot of moisture underside the oil cap..
> coolant??
> --- Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com> wrote:
> > Ohh..with oil too eh..
> >
> > Does it do it ALL the time, or just when warmed up?
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, George Kuo wrote:
> >
> > > white ish.. oil in the exhaust tip too..
> > > --- Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > What color smoke?
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, George Kuo wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Team,
> > > > >
> > > > > My RT/TT is blowing major smoke.  Diagnois
> > from
> > > > GTPro
> > > > > is blown (composit) head gaskets. All other
> > > > components
> > > > > should be fine.  The car runs fine.. just lots
> > of
> > > > > stinky smoke.. especially when accel and
> > letting
> > > > off
> > > > > the gas..
> > > > >
> > > > > Now the questions...
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) How does one go about in fixing this
> > problem?
> > > > > Simply remove the head and replace the gaskets
> > > > without
> > > > > pulling the engine?
> > > > >
> > > > > 2) Does the heads needs to be machined smooth?
> > > > >
> > > > > 3) Just what other things should/needs to be
> > done?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > George
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 00:01:22 -0800 (PST)
From: George Kuo <amkreadgto@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Blown Head Gasket...

Yea Geoff.. aint good. =(  Dont think I can make
Button Willow next month..

so how about getting back to my original questions
below?? Im sure u know something.. =)
- --- Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com> wrote:
> Ya..BHG.  I was gonna say if it didnt smoke at
> startup, and only when
> warm..its BHG.  If it smoked ALL the time..it might
> be just oil.
>
> Sorry to hear it..
>
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, George Kuo wrote:
>
> > It doesnt smoke at all when starting and heating
> up
> > the car.. only when i start driving.. and puffs
> ALOT
> > of smoke when I shift gear..
> >
> > theres also alot of moisture underside the oil
> cap..
> > coolant??
> > --- Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
> wrote:
> > > Ohh..with oil too eh..
> > >
> > > Does it do it ALL the time, or just when warmed
> up?
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, George Kuo wrote:
> > >
> > > > white ish.. oil in the exhaust tip too..
> > > > --- Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > What color smoke?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, George Kuo wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Team,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My RT/TT is blowing major smoke.  Diagnois
> > > from
> > > > > GTPro
> > > > > > is blown (composit) head gaskets. All
> other
> > > > > components
> > > > > > should be fine.  The car runs fine.. just
> lots
> > > of
> > > > > > stinky smoke.. especially when accel and
> > > letting
> > > > > off
> > > > > > the gas..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now the questions...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1) How does one go about in fixing this
> > > problem?
> > > > > > Simply remove the head and replace the
> gaskets
> > > > > without
> > > > > > pulling the engine?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2) Does the heads needs to be machined
> smooth?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3) Just what other things should/needs to
> be
> > > done?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > George
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > >
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 03:34:52 EST
From: StevePKT77@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Blown Head Gasket...

If you have white puffs of smoke and coolant in the oil then yeah it's your
head gasket.  But you also said you have oil in the exhaust pipe - that
implies to me that you're burning oil, which is not related to the head
gasket (instead it's related to worn pistons/rings).  If that's the case then
you do not only need new head gaskets but possibly a rebuild.  Either way I
wouldn't drive it very much longer like this, it can't be good on your engine
to drive it with water in the oil.  If your oil burning is not very severe
then maybe you should just do the head gasket, but I figure while you're
doing the labor / spending the money you may as well do it all if you plan on
keeping the car for a while.
- -Steve

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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:59:45 +0100
From: Roger Gerl <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Blown Head Gasket...

>1) How does one go about in fixing this problem?
>Simply remove the head and replace the gaskets without
>pulling the engine?

"Simply" is not the right word but it is really not necessary to pull the
engine.

>2) Does the heads needs to be machined smooth?

On mine, they were perfect. At least you must have them checked.

>3) Just what other things should/needs to be done?

While the heads are off anyways, I'd let them be proted and gasketmatched,
as well as the exhaust manofilds can be machined. Look at my project page
for details.

Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch


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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:55:09 +0100
From: Roger Gerl <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Blown Head Gasket...

Another word to the gasket stuff :

>Simply remove the head and replace the gaskets without
>pulling the engine?

When one is telling you that the engine must be pulled for this work then
he's trying to make money. And I can insure you that when they do the job,
they will find more stuff that can be done or "should" be done. Hey,
George, you are a money cow ... would be great having such a client over
here, hehe :))

Regarding the gasket, I used the Fel-Pro gasket kit from Carparts with the
30% off coupon and it was the same quality - if not really the same - liek
the one that was originally on my 93'3000GT installed. I'd change both the
same time as to make sure everything is right and well tourqued down
afterwards.

Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch


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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:28:19 +0000
From: Gordon Tyrrell <gordon.tyrrell@openet-int.com>
Subject: Team3S: Ticking noise from the front

I'm having a strange problem that I've been ignoring while waiting to
get the car in for a full checkover but it's getting worse so I wanted
to check with you guys in the know before I go to the mechanic here (who
won't know anything about our car).

It's a strange ticking that starts (or becomes apparent) above 100rpm in
each gear and gets faster with the revs up to about 3000rpm at which
point I think it's still there but engine/wind/road noise is too high
for me to hear it. If I accelerate I can hear it and then if I just push
the clutch in I can hear it dying down clearly with the revs.

I sounds like it's coming from the front/centre of the engine. Sometimes
on cold start first thing in the morning there's a clattering noise for
a few seconds up front which I think may be related. It settles down to
the ticking after 2-3 secs.

Any ideas??

Oh why did I sell my Japanese import MR2 Turbo???? :)
At least they can work on them here (celica gt4 was sold here).

Thanks in advance
Gordon
Dublin, Ireland

1993 Dark Metallic Grey VR4 (japanese import)
Uprated Fuel pump
K&N Filtercharger
HKS EVC IV (set to .95 bar and I get .8bar with that setting???)



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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 06:41:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Jeff Lucius <stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Blown Head Gasket..

George,

Just out of curiousity, are you using Mitsu OEM head gaskets?

Jeff Lucius, www.stealth316.com

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "George Kuo" <amkreadgto@yahoo.com>
To: "Team3SI" <team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 12:30 AM
Subject: Team3S: Blown Head Gasket...


Hi Team,

My RT/TT is blowing major smoke.  Diagnois from GTPro
is blown (composit) head gaskets.
<snip>

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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 07:10:19 -0700
From: Desert Fox <bigfoot@simmgene.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Ticking noise from the front

I've developed a similar sound. When I'm under the hood listening closely,
it does sound like it is coming from the center of the engine like you
stated. I haven't noticed the clattering noise upon startup and the ticking
seems to be less when off-throttle.

Have you noticed a decrease in fuel mileage? I'm going for a long drive
today so I hope to be able to ascertain if my mileage is suffering along
with the ticking.

I'll take any and all input as the tick is enough to drive a man to
drink!;-)


- --
Paul/.
95 black 3000GT VR-4
98 VFR800F, TBR aluminum hi exit
formerly reasonable and prudent

on 1/19/01 4:28, Gordon Tyrrell at gordon.tyrrell@openet-int.com scribbled:

[snip]
 
> It's a strange ticking that starts (or becomes apparent) above 100rpm in
> each gear and gets faster with the revs up to about 3000rpm at which
> point I think it's still there but engine/wind/road noise is too high
> for me to hear it. If I accelerate I can hear it and then if I just push
> the clutch in I can hear it dying down clearly with the revs.
>
> I sounds like it's coming from the front/centre of the engine. Sometimes
> on cold start first thing in the morning there's a clattering noise for
> a few seconds up front which I think may be related. It settles down to
> the ticking after 2-3 secs.


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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:20:46 -0500
From: "Mihai Raicu" <aa2345@wayne.edu>
Subject: Team3S: RE: Wrong diagnostic - Piston Slap???

Curt and Jeff,

Thanks so much for all your help on this ticking noise with the SOHC.  I am
seriously doubting the diagnostic the Mitsu mechanic gave me.  So, I will
make another appointment for a 2nd diagnostic ($70) to a local Dodge Dealer
that had in the past one mechanic that really knew his stuff (and also fixed
my brother's TT before).  If this diagnostic turns out to be related to the
tune-up, then I can go to back to the Mitsu dealer and hold them responsible
for a possible "slip-up.".  Then I will at least have a case, although they
could still stick to their diagnostic.  First thing first...I will wait for
the new diagnostic.  Keep your fingers crossed.  I will keep you informed of
the progress.

Thanks guys.

- -MIKE-          aa2345@wayne.edu
95 Red VR4
Apexi AVC-R Electronic Boost Controller
K&N FIPK, Boost Gauge, EGT Meter

Detroit Metro Area, Michigan

- -----------------------------------------

This whole "piston slap" thing sounds fishy to me.  As Jeff said, its a
gradual thing.  Which means you should have heard this noise before the 120k
service.  A loose belt or inproperly timed car could make these noises.  If
the timing is really off, the pistons can hit valves.  I've got my money on
a mechanic slip up.  You might want to get a second opinion from another
mechanic.


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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:01:41 -0500
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject: Team3S: 1994-1996 VR-4 options

Attention Second Gen VR-4 owners ... I am wondering if anyone else wants to
submit their information that I can send back to the list.  I can strip off
the VIN if you prefer but it is helpful if someone wants to search the CAPS
program for a car just like theirs.  I am most in need of knowing what
different options are there since I am looking for a coilover suspension but
without the ECS (the dreaded Sunroof or no sunroof debate) I have a
different spring perch in the back.

So I'd like to gather this and then work with the suspension guys and submit
the results to the list.  This can also be helpful for our Team3S page where
we list different options offered on cars and stuff.

Here are two examples (I've stripped the name and VIN for now since I did
not get confirmation if I could release the owner's information and it isn't
relevant anyway).

Name: Flash!
VIN: JA3AN74K9SY020664
Year: 1995
Model: VR-4
Color: Black
Mfg date (on edge of driver's door): 11/94
Active Aero: Yes
ECS: No
Active Exhaust: No
Sunroof: Yes
Sunroof type: Automatic
Keyless entry: Yes

Name: <insert name here>
VIN: <insert VIN here>
Year: 1995
Model: VR-4
Color: Black
Mfg date (on edge of driver's door): 9/94
Active Aero: Yes
ECS: No
Active Exhaust: No
Sunroof: Yes
Sunroof type: Automatic
Keyless entry: No

- --Flash!
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3Si #577
1995 Black VR-4 w/ K&N FIPK, Magnecor 8.5 wires, custom spark plug plate and
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:23:29 -0800
From: George Yin <gyin@vt.edu>
Subject: Team3S: stereo code

Hey guys,
I've been searching on how to get my stereo security code forever. I never
got it when I got the car. The dealer wants $70 to scan the bar code. I
don't want to spend money when I don't have to. Is there some sort of
database online where I can just put the barcode number in and get my
security code?


George Yin
94 Green SL


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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:45:31 -0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Blown Head Gasket...

That sucks..you shoudl come and watch/ride anyway.

Our VR4 wont be done for some time..the shop weve been using has been
forced into retirement due to health issues with the owner..so..*frown*

Guess we'll have to settle with taking the Supra, the MR-Spyder, the
Celica AllTrac, and the RX7-TT.  Sucks to be us.

On Fri, 19 Jan 2001, George Kuo wrote:

> Yea Geoff.. aint good. =(  Dont think I can make
> Button Willow next month..
>
> so how about getting back to my original questions
> below?? Im sure u know something.. =)
> --- Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com> wrote:
> > Ya..BHG.  I was gonna say if it didnt smoke at
> > startup, and only when
> > warm..its BHG.  If it smoked ALL the time..it might
> > be just oil.
> >
> > Sorry to hear it..
> >
> > On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, George Kuo wrote:
> >
> > > It doesnt smoke at all when starting and heating
> > up
> > > the car.. only when i start driving.. and puffs
> > ALOT
> > > of smoke when I shift gear..
> > >
> > > theres also alot of moisture underside the oil
> > cap..
> > > coolant??
> > > --- Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > Ohh..with oil too eh..
> > > >
> > > > Does it do it ALL the time, or just when warmed
> > up?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, George Kuo wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > white ish.. oil in the exhaust tip too..
> > > > > --- Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > What color smoke?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, George Kuo wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Team,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My RT/TT is blowing major smoke.  Diagnois
> > > > from
> > > > > > GTPro
> > > > > > > is blown (composit) head gaskets. All
> > other
> > > > > > components
> > > > > > > should be fine.  The car runs fine.. just
> > lots
> > > > of
> > > > > > > stinky smoke.. especially when accel and
> > > > letting
> > > > > > off
> > > > > > > the gas..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now the questions...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1) How does one go about in fixing this
> > > > problem?
> > > > > > > Simply remove the head and replace the
> > gaskets
> > > > > > without
> > > > > > > pulling the engine?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2) Does the heads needs to be machined
> > smooth?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 3) Just what other things should/needs to
> > be
> > > > done?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > George
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > >
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:05:07 -0600
From: "Walton C. Gibson" <kalla@tripoint.org>
Subject: Re: Team3S: stereo code

> got it when I got the car. The dealer wants $70 to scan the bar code. I

I gave the dealer the serial number off my head unit and they gave
me the code for free. The serial number is all they need, and they
shouldn't be charging you for it.

walton c. gibson
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:09:08 -0800 (PST)
From: George Kuo <amkreadgto@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Blown Head Gasket..

I just found out that they ARE the newer stainless
steel OEM head gaskets.. =(
- --- Jeff Lucius <stealthman92@yahoo.com> wrote:
> George,
>
> Just out of curiousity, are you using Mitsu OEM head
> gaskets?
>
> Jeff Lucius, www.stealth316.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Kuo" <amkreadgto@yahoo.com>
> To: "Team3SI" <team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 12:30 AM
> Subject: Team3S: Blown Head Gasket...
>
>
> Hi Team,
>
> My RT/TT is blowing major smoke.  Diagnois from
> GTPro
> is blown (composit) head gaskets.
> <snip>
>
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:22:18 -0800 (PST)
From: George Kuo <amkreadgto@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Blown Head Gasket...

I'll make sure to let Brian hear this one! =) j/k..

GTPro said it whould be easier and faster to pull the
engine out and do it.  Their mechanic claims he can
pull out our engine in 5hrs.. if he just tries to pull
the heads with the engine still inside the car, its a
full day's job...

I dunno.. gota talk to Brian some more.. I need to do
it the fastest and least expensive way..

/G
- --- Roger Gerl <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch> wrote:
> Another word to the gasket stuff :
>
> >Simply remove the head and replace the gaskets
> without
> >pulling the engine?
>
> When one is telling you that the engine must be
> pulled for this work then
> he's trying to make money. And I can insure you that
> when they do the job,
> they will find more stuff that can be done or
> "should" be done. Hey,
> George, you are a money cow ... would be great
> having such a client over
> here, hehe :))
>
> Regarding the gasket, I used the Fel-Pro gasket kit
> from Carparts with the
> 30% off coupon and it was the same quality - if not
> really the same - liek
> the one that was originally on my 93'3000GT
> installed. I'd change both the
> same time as to make sure everything is right and
> well tourqued down
> afterwards.
>
> Roger
> 93'3000GT TT
> www.rtec.ch
>
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:32:42 -0800
From: "ian sweeney" <sween3000gt@hotmail.com>
Subject: Team3S: Replacement Stereo for '92 vr4

Morning everyone,

does anyone know of a good replacement for the stock single head unit in the
92 3000gt? I am looking for a cd head unit that will drive the 6 speakers.
Are the dash speakers tweeters? (do i need crossovers, etc) or are they
simply ordinary speakers? the other thing i would like to get his a harness
adaptor to plug straight into the cars connectors? any ideas?

thanks
Ian
92 red vr4
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:38:53 -0600
From: "Curt Gendron" <curt_gendron@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: stereo code

George,

Dealers shouldn't be charging you to give you this code.  Call one of the
reputable dealers that are online.  Jeff Lucius has them listed at:
http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius/1-links-t.htm

They can tell you how to pull out the stereo to get the serial number.

$70!!! jeesh!!  What a rip off.

later,
Curt
http://www.mn3s.org


>From: George Yin <gyin@vt.edu>
>To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
>Subject: Team3S: stereo code
>Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:23:29 -0800
>
>Hey guys,
> I've been searching on how to get my stereo security code forever. I never
>got it when I got the car. The dealer wants $70 to scan the bar code. I
>don't want to spend money when I don't have to. Is there some sort of
>database online where I can just put the barcode number in and get my
>security code?
>
>
>George Yin
>94 Green SL
>
>
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:39:11 -0600
From: "Curt Gendron" <curt_gendron@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: stereo code

George,

Dealers shouldn't be charging you to give you this code.  Call one of the
reputable dealers that are online.  Jeff Lucius has them listed at:
http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius/1-links-t.htm

They can tell you how to pull out the stereo to get the serial number.

$70!!! jeesh!!  What a rip off.

later,
Curt
http://www.mn3s.org


>From: George Yin <gyin@vt.edu>
>To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
>Subject: Team3S: stereo code
>Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 11:23:29 -0800
>
>Hey guys,
> I've been searching on how to get my stereo security code forever. I never
>got it when I got the car. The dealer wants $70 to scan the bar code. I
>don't want to spend money when I don't have to. Is there some sort of
>database online where I can just put the barcode number in and get my
>security code?
>
>
>George Yin
>94 Green SL
>
>
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:38:32 -0800
From: "Bob Forrest" <bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Team3S: VR4 Project - (was: Blown Head Gasket...)

From: "Geoff Mohler" <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
To: "Team3S" <team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
> That sucks..you should come and watch/ride anyway.
> Our VR4 wont be done for some time..the shop weve been using has been
> forced into retirement due to health issues with the
owner..so..*frown*
> Guess we'll have to settle with taking the Supra, the MR-Spyder, the
> Celica AllTrac, and the RX7-TT.  Sucks to be us.
- -----------quoted material finally snipped---------------

You should check out Frey Racing if you're looking for another top speed
shop.  When they were in Mountainview, they had about a dozen NASCAR &
SCCA projects in-house, and their dyno shop (2W) was run by a top
ex-racer named Terry Barnard.  He's opened his own shop in Monterey and
they appear to have moved to Milpitas, but if it's the same folks, you
should give them a call.  Impressive bunch...  349 Sango Court,
Milpitas, California 95035. Phone: (408) 956-3900.  www.freyracing.com

Best,

Forrest



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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:43:32 -0800
From: "Geddes, Brian J" <brian.j.geddes@intel.com>
Subject: Team3S: Weird electrical problems

All -

I recently got my '96 base 3kgt back from the body shop after repairing some
front end damage.  The body work looks great, but the car has picked up some
weird electrical problems.  All the symptoms seem really unrelated, and I'm
trying to find a common link between all of them:

- - Power windows work intermittently (button lights are out when windows do
not work.)
- - Rear defroster works intermittently (always at the same time as the
windows)
- - ASC light comes on, but can never set cruise control speed (cruise light
never comes on)
- - No power to radio (tested with a voltometer; there is no power in the mail
power lead.)

I can't think of damage that would cause all this stuff, but I'd like to
have some idea what I want them to fix before I call the repair shop to
complain.

Thanks,
- - Brian



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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:05:35 -0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: RE: Team3S: stereo code

Try another dealer.  That is a ripoff.  Two different dealers here insisted
that we come in person with the stereo S/N to get the code - they looked it
up in a book, but there was no charge.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: George Yin [SMTP:gyin@vt.edu]
> Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 1:23 PM
> To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
> Subject: Team3S: stereo code
>
> Hey guys,
> I've been searching on how to get my stereo security code forever. I
> never
> got it when I got the car. The dealer wants $70 to scan the bar code. I
> don't want to spend money when I don't have to. Is there some sort of
> database online where I can just put the barcode number in and get my
> security code?
>
>
> George Yin
> 94 Green SL
>
>
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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:09:35 -0800 (PST)
From: Jeff Lucius <stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Weird electrical problems

Hi Brian,

Fuse number 4 in the multi-purpose fuse (to the left of the driver's
left leg) protects the following:

Audio
Motor antenna control unit
Auto-cruise control
ETACS unit

The ETACS (Electronic Time and Alarm Control System) controls the
defroster and power windows, among other things.

Maybe this fuse is blown? This could happen if these fellows did not
disconnect the battery before working on the car. See my web page
below for location of fuses in this box.

http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius2/j2-2-fuses.htm

Jeff Lucius, www.stealth316.com

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Geddes, Brian J" <brian.j.geddes@intel.com>
To: "Team3S Mailing List (E-mail)" <team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>;
"Starnet Mailing List (E-mail)" <stealth@stls.verio.net>
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 10:43 AM
Subject: Team3S: Weird electrical problems

All -

I recently got my '96 base 3kgt back from the body shop after
repairing some front end damage.  The body work looks great, but the
car has picked up some weird electrical problems.  All the symptoms
seem really unrelated, and I'm trying to find a common link between
all of them:

- - Power windows work intermittently (button lights are out when
windows do not work.)
- - Rear defroster works intermittently (always at the same time as the
windows)
- - ASC light comes on, but can never set cruise control speed (cruise
light never comes on)
- - No power to radio (tested with a voltometer; there is no power in
the mail power lead.)

I can't think of damage that would cause all this stuff, but I'd like
to have some idea what I want them to fix before I call the repair
shop to complain.

Thanks,
- - Brian


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Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:35:27 -0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject: Team3S: FW: How to remove the 2nd generation passenger side fog light?

I sent this in desperation on Tuesday, but haven't even received a sarcastic
reply yet.  I guess the next thing I'll try tomorrow is getting at the nut
with an extension and u-joint through one of the holes in the front.  Sure
would be nice to know if I can remove the nut AFTER taking the bumper off.

You guys just remember - the next president is from Texas!

Chuck

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Willis, Charles E.
> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2001 10:34 AM
> To: Team3S
> Subject: How to remove the 2nd generation passenger side fog light?
>
> I remember seeing someone else ask this question a couple of months ago,
> and thinking how silly.  Well, I'm not laughing now.  I am trying to
> remove the bumper and the service manual says to remove the foglights.  I
> got the driver's side off (two 10 mm nuts located on top of the assembly
> so you can't see them) and one of the two on the passenger side off,
> actually from the front of the car.  The last damned nut is stuck. Of
> course the moron who put the thing back together last time didn't use a 10
> mm, maybe a 12 mm, maybe an English nut.  I have dropped the air dam
> assembly to give me more room. I've used a socket and U-joint.  There just
> doesn't seem to be enough room to get the thing to turn.
>
> Can I remove the bumper if I just disconnect the electrical connection to
> the fog lamp?
>
> Is there yet another trick to getting the last nut off?
>
> This car had some minor collision damage repaired poorly.  A lot of my
> time is going toward cleaning up messes the jake-leg body shop made.  The
> nut substitution is just one of many.
>
> Chuck 

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