team3s
Friday, January 12
2001 Volume 01
: Number
375
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Date:
Thu, 11 Jan 2001 21:06:37 -0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Attn: Road Racers..
I dont have a datalogger, but if I -did-
thats how I would mount it.
Seen it before, even in street cars.
Use velcro to hold case to floor.
On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, John Christian
wrote:
> Hi Goeff,
>
> That may be okay for your car and
mine, but I'll bet
> many on this list haven't devoted their car to
track
> use and probably still have creature comforts like
>
carpeting, etc.
>
> Do you use your laptop to collect data from
your
> datalogger while road racing?? Is the data
>
beneficial??
>
> Be of good cheer,
> John
>
>
--- Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
wrote:
> > -Find an old briefcase large enough for the laptop.
>
> -Tear the top off (or keep it depending on how you
> > want to
store it)
> > -Place stiff foam in the case, cut out a cavity
for
> > the laptop to sit
> > snugly into (including top if
you go that route)
> > -put holes in the bottom of the laptop
case,
> > reinforce with sheet metal.
> > -Cut out cable
access into the case.
> > -Bolt case to floor of car.
> >
-Place laptop in padded area inside the secured
> > cased.
> >
-Close lid if you went that route.
> >
> > On Thu, 11 Jan
2001, George Kuo wrote:
> >
> > > Anyone have a good way,
or ideas, to secure a
> > laptop
> > > inside the
car??
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
George
> > >
> > >
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 00:20:16
-0500 (EST)
From:
MAPCMB@webtv.net
(Michael Peyton)
Subject: Team3S: Shifter moving in fifth
Hello
all, my shifter has began to move in fifth when I get on and off
the
gas. I know about the problem with the nut on the fifth gear
assembly in
DSM's and the two trannies look identical but has anybody on
the list had
this problem with a stealth/3kgt and fixed it by
retightening the nut? Also
does anyone use BG sycroshift in their
trannies and does it work as well as
it does in DSM trannies?
Thanks,
Mike Peyton
95 base
3kgt
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 09:29:16
-0800
From: "ian sweeney" <
sween3000gt@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Turbo Timers
Hi all,
while i was looking for my Vr4 i drove
some other types of twin turbo
including a 300z. It was fitted with a
timer which kept the motor running
after the ignition was swithced off. the
reason i was told was to allow the
turbos too cool. My question is why do
they need to be cooled with the
engine running? and does this add to the
longevity of them? also does anyone
know the name of the timer (blitz?)
?
thanks
ian
92 vr4
red
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 12:21:34
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From: "Greg S." <
wizards@mhtc.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Turbo Timers
Ian,
To answer your question, they need to be cooled
with the engine running because
that is the only way that cooler oil is being
circulated to the Turbos.
Otherwise you've got oil just sitting in the turbos
being baked to a hard crust
and over time it can cause the Turbos to
fail. Now if you could jury rig a way
to pump oil to the Turbos without
the engine running it may work just as
effectively, but I'm not sure it would
be worth the time, hassle, and expense of
creating such a system.
And
yes, cooling the Turbos substantially adds to the life of the Turbos and
also
helps reduce the clogging of the oil supply lines to the Turbos.
And yes,
Blitz is a well respected name in the field of Turbo Timers. But
the
poor man's equivalent of a Turbo Timer is to just let your car idle for a
few
minutes after driving it and that will accomplish the same thing as the
Turbo
Timer .... it's just that it's a LOT more convenient to turn your key
switch
off, and walk away rather than sit in your car for 3-5 minutes as it
idles.
Hope this helps.
Greg
ian sweeney
wrote:
> Hi all,
> while i was looking for my Vr4 i drove some
other types of twin turbo
> including a 300z. It was fitted with a
timer which kept the motor running
> after the ignition was swithced off.
the reason i was told was to allow the
> turbos too cool. My question is
why do they need to be cooled with the
> engine running? and does this add
to the longevity of them? also does anyone
> know the name of the timer
(blitz?) ?
>
> thanks
> ian
> 92 vr4 red
>
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 12:30:43
-0600
From: "Greg S." <
wizards@mhtc.net>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Leaded vs Unleaded gas
Just to throw my two cents in the
mix .... I agree with what Matt said
about mix
ratios and so on, but my
question to George is why do you care? A
higher octane
does not give
you more "power" per se, just a greater resistance to
engine
knock.
And if your engine isn't knocking on 100 unleaded, there is
no
advantage
of going up to 110 octane, but there would most likely be a
substantial
cost
increase. If the price is the same then it just
doesn't matter and I'd
personally use the higher octane gas just for
S&G.
Greg
"Jannusch, Matt" wrote:
> > 1)
Can I mix my 92oct unleaded with the 100oct
> > unleaded? (I assume
yes, but just want to make sure.)
>
> Its best to have as little of
the low-octane stuff in the tank as possible.
> I hook up a hose on the
return line of the fuel pressure regulator and pump
> it out into an empty
gas can. You can mix it, but you'll be running an
> essentially
unknown octane of fuel. Mixing in ratios supposedly doesn't
> result
in the average of the octanes - it is always a little lower. (ie:
>
50% 92 and 50% 100 = something like 94, not 96.)
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:34:16
-0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
Team3S: One for the archives..
What a melted convertor looks
like.
Symptoms: Not real sluggish, but bad MPG, and the EVC
recently had to be
told to produce 1.2b to get 1.0b. So I thought Id
cut out the cat, bang
it out, and weld it back in just for the hell of
it.
Seems I found my MPG problem.
This is on a Toyota Celica
AllTrac, but symptoms/cause would be relevant
to any car.
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 12:33:54
-0600
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <
mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Turbo Timers
> And yes, Blitz is a well respected name in
the field of Turbo
> Timers. But the poor man's equivalent of a
Turbo Timer is
> to just let your car idle for a few minutes after driving
it
> and that will accomplish the same thing as the Turbo
> Timer
....
Or just resist the urge to keep the gas pedal to the floor as you
near your
destination. The last minute or so of "easy" driving will
cool the turbo
down just as well as a few minutes idling the car. It'll
also flow cool air
into the engine compartment and through the radiator to
help cool things
down as well - that doesn't happen nearly as well with a
turbo timer running
in a parking lot - most of the heat stays under the
hood.
I'm not saying that I don't like turbo timers - I had one in my
Eclipse...
Just consider the cost of the unit and the possibility of your car
being
stolen while the timer is running versus just taking it easy before
parking.
Also if you get a timer that doesn't work properly with the factory
alarm,
you can't use your keyless entry/exit until the motor turns off anyway
which
kind of negates a lot of the benefit of the turbo timer.
-
-Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 10:52:20
-0800
From: "Gross, Erik" <
erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Shifter moving in fifth
> Hello all, my shifter has
began to move in fifth when I get
> on and off the gas. I know about the
problem with the nut on the fifth
gear
> assembly in DSM's and the two
trannies look identical but has
> anybody on the list had this problem
with a stealth/3kgt and fixed it by
> retightening the nut?
Yeah,
2-3 people had the 5th gear/tranny nut problem in the last 2+ years
I've been
on this and other 3S lists. Probably a few more that I
didn't
hear about. And yes, retightening the nut seems to work if you
catch it
early.
>Also does anyone use BG sycroshift in
their
> trannies and does it work as well as it does in DSM trannies?
As for BG Synchroshift, I have it in mine and have no
complaints.
- --Erik
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Erik
Gross
DuPont, WA
'95 Pearl White 3000GT (NA, DOHC,
5-speed) 76,000
mi
Firestone Firehawk 245/50/ZR16 tires, stock
wheels
Magnacor KV85 spark plug wires, NGK plugs @
0.040"
K&N FIPK, Mobil 1 10W30 w/ OEM oil filter, Skippy PCV
CC
'94 Algae Blue "Ain't No 3000"
Corolla
72,000mi
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 11:00:24
-0800 (PST)
From: George Kuo <
amkreadgto@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Leaded vs Unleaded gas
Thanks guys for your
inputs.
Why do I care? Because I get knock in high boost
situations..
and I don't want to be knocking all
weekend long at the tracks.
And if
there's not much of a price difference,
logically, I would want to put in
110octane (if it
doesn't damage the O2's)..
Cheers,
George
- ---
"Greg S." <
wizards@mhtc.net>
wrote:
> Just to throw my two cents in the mix .... I agree
> with
what Matt said
> about mix
> ratios and so on, but my question to
George is why
> do you care? A
> higher octane
> does
not give you more "power" per se, just a
> greater resistance to
>
engine
> knock. And if your engine isn't knocking on 100
>
unleaded, there is no
> advantage
> of going up to 110 octane, but
there would most
> likely be a substantial
> cost
>
increase. If the price is the same then it just
> doesn't matter and
I'd
> personally use the higher octane gas just for S&G.
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> "Jannusch, Matt" wrote:
>
> > > 1) Can I mix my 92oct unleaded with the 100oct
> >
> unleaded? (I assume yes, but just want to make
> sure.)
>
>
> > Its best to have as little of the low-octane stuff
> in
the tank as possible.
> > I hook up a hose on the return line of the
fuel
> pressure regulator and pump
> > it out into an empty gas
can. You can mix it, but
> you'll be running an
> >
essentially unknown octane of fuel. Mixing in
> ratios supposedly
doesn't
> > result in the average of the octanes - it is
> always
a little lower. (ie:
> > 50% 92 and 50% 100 = something like 94,
not 96.)
>
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:50:57
-0500
From: "Michael Bulaon" <
profilevr4@3000gtvr4.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Turbo Timers
Also you may run into some complications using
the turbo timer with a
car alarm. Worse case scenario would be that you'd
have to wait for the
turbo timer to finish, and then arm the alarm. But then
that would
defeat the purpose of having the turbo timer in the first place
since
you'd still have to sit there and wait.
> Ian,
>
> To answer your question, they need to be cooled with the engine
running because
> that is the only way that cooler oil is being
circulated to the
Turbos.
> Otherwise you've got oil just sitting in
the turbos being baked to a
hard crust
> and over time it can cause
the Turbos to fail. Now if you could jury
rig a way
> to pump
oil to the Turbos without the engine running it may work just
as
>
effectively, but I'm not sure it would be worth the time, hassle, and
expense of
> creating such a system.
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:18:03
-0600
From: "Greg S." <
wizards@mhtc.net>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Leaded vs Unleaded gas
George .... that answered the
question .... if you're getting Knocking,
you DEFINITELY need to be running a
higher octane fuel.
Greg
George Kuo wrote:
> Thanks
guys for your inputs.
>
> Why do I care? Because I get knock in high
boost
> situations.. and I don't want to be knocking all
> weekend
long at the tracks.
>
> And if there's not much of a price
difference,
> logically, I would want to put in 110octane (if it
>
doesn't damage the O2's)..
>
> Cheers,
> George
> ---
"Greg S." <
wizards@mhtc.net>
wrote:
> > Just to throw my two cents in the mix .... I agree
>
> with what Matt said
> > about mix
> > ratios and so on,
but my question to George is why
> > do you care? A
> >
higher octane
> > does not give you more "power" per se, just a
>
> greater resistance to
> > engine
> > knock. And if
your engine isn't knocking on 100
> > unleaded, there is no
>
> advantage
> > of going up to 110 octane, but there would
most
> > likely be a substantial
> > cost
> >
increase. If the price is the same then it just
> > doesn't
matter and I'd
> > personally use the higher octane gas just for
S&G.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> >
>
>
> > "Jannusch, Matt" wrote:
> >
> > > > 1)
Can I mix my 92oct unleaded with the 100oct
> > > > unleaded? (I
assume yes, but just want to make
> > sure.)
> > >
>
> > Its best to have as little of the low-octane stuff
> > in the
tank as possible.
> > > I hook up a hose on the return line of the
fuel
> > pressure regulator and pump
> > > it out into an
empty gas can. You can mix it, but
> > you'll be running
an
> > > essentially unknown octane of fuel. Mixing in
>
> ratios supposedly doesn't
> > > result in the average of the
octanes - it is
> > always a little lower. (ie:
> > >
50% 92 and 50% 100 = something like 94, not 96.)
> >
> >
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 16:30:18
-0500
From: "WALTER D. BEST" <
WDBO39@erols.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Question regarding ball bearing turbo set-up on ebay
I am in the process
of up grading the performace on my car and I am not too
far from considering
the turbo upgrade. I saw the following item on ebay
and wondered is
this for real?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=540265787&r=0&t=0&showTutorial=0&ed=979425053&indexURL=0&rd=1
I
have never heard of ball bearing turbos being available for our cars and
or
the make of turbos that are being advertised, the IHI F55 Ball Bearing
Turbo
(Supports up to 400 hp each) ? Is this for real? What are
these,
20G's, 16G's?
I do like their 3 into 1 Stainless Steel Exhaust
Manifold and Stainless
Steel Front pipe that eliminate both front and rear
cat but I don't know
about the turbos.
Anyone ever heard of this, or
is this a pig in a poke, too good to be true,
or
what?
Thanks,
Dave Best
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:00:16
-0800 (PST)
From: Jeff Lucius <
stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Question regarding ball bearing turbo set-up on ebay
Hi
Dave,
I updated my turbo upgrade page to include this new
information.
http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius2/j2-2-turboguide.htmI
corresponded with Don, the seller, about this turbo kit. See the
message
below. I called JUN Motorsports and talked to Alex, who said
Todd could
better answer my questions next week when he returns to
the office.
Unfortunately that will be after the bidding closes. You
can visit the IHI
site
http://www.ihi-turbo.com/ to get
details on
the RHF55 turbos included in this kit. They are roughly equivalent
to
17G or GT357 turbos. I had not heard of them used on our cars
before.
I very much like the exhaust housings that replace the precats
but
retain the O2 fittings. Maybe the buyer would let ATR, Buschur,
or
someone else 'copy" them? I am not sure stainless is the best
material
for exhaust manifolds. I thought perhaps they were chromed
iron (like our
rear one) or steel (like our front one). I didn't ask
Don what the material
was. Send him an email with your questions and
take a look at my turbo
upgrade web page.
Later,
Jeff Lucius,
www.stealth316.com- ----- Original
Message -----
From: "Don" <
dnperformance@yahoo.com>
To:
"Jeff Lucius" <
stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Sent:
Thursday, January 11, 2001 3:16 AM
Subject: Re: Ball Bearing Turbo Kit for
3000GT Stealth TT
Hi Jeff
The BB turbo is used but it's in very nice
shape.
JUN Machine shop made this setup and as you can see from the pic
yes
the o2 sensor is still in the stock position.
The IC pipes are a
little different from the stock. Stainless steel
oil line are recomened .
FMIC is good for this setup.
please e-mail me if you have any moe
question
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From: "Jeff Lucius" <
stealthman92@yahoo.com>
To:
<
dnperformance@yahoo.com>
Sent:
Friday, January 12, 2001 2:52 AM
Subject: Ball Bearing Turbo Kit for 3000GT
Stealth TT
> Hi,
>
> I have some questions about this item
you have for sale on eBay.
>
> Item #540265787: Ball Bearing Turbo
Kit for 3000GT Stealth TT
>
> 1. Are the items used at all?
>
2. Who manufactured this kit?
> 3. Is it correct that the housings after
the turbos eliminate the
> pre-cats?
> 4. Is it correct that O2
sensors can still be attached to the
> exhaust housings?
> 5. Are
any other mods required, such as
> - water and oil lines
to/from turbos?
> - engine mounts?
> - IC
pipes
> - AC or other lines on the
firewall?
> - something else?
<snip>
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From: "WALTER D. BEST" <
WDBO39@erols.com>
To: <
team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Friday, January 12, 2001 2:30 PM
Subject: Team3S: Question regarding ball
bearing turbo set-up on ebay
I am in the process of up grading the
performace on my car and I am
not too far from considering the turbo
upgrade. I saw the following
item on ebay and wondered is this for
real?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=540265787&r=0&t=0&showTutorial=0&ed=979425053&indexURL=0&rd=1
I
have never heard of ball bearing turbos being available for our
cars and or
the make of turbos that are being advertised, the IHI F55
Ball Bearing Turbo
(Supports up to 400 hp each) ? Is this for real?
What are these,
20G's, 16G's?
I do like their 3 into 1 Stainless Steel Exhaust Manifold
and
Stainless Steel Front pipe that eliminate both front and rear cat
but
I don't know about the turbos.
Anyone ever heard of this, or is
this a pig in a poke, too good to be
true, or
what?
Thanks,
Dave
Best
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:26:57
-0800
From: "ian sweeney" <
sween3000gt@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Turbo Timers
thanks greg,
any idea how the timer works?
does it have any input from rev counter or
does it just time how long the
engine is running for and then keep the
engine running for a fraction of
that time?
ian
red vr4 '92
>Ian,
>
>To
answer your question, they need to be cooled with the engine running
>because
>that is the only way that cooler oil is being circulated
to the Turbos.
>Otherwise you've got oil just sitting in the turbos being
baked to a hard
>crust
>and over time it can cause the Turbos to
fail. Now if you could jury rig a
>way
>to pump oil to the
Turbos without the engine running it may work just as
>effectively, but
I'm not sure it would be worth the time, hassle, and
>expense
of
>creating such a system.
>
>And yes, cooling the Turbos
substantially adds to the life of the Turbos
>and
>also helps
reduce the clogging of the oil supply lines to the Turbos.
>
>And
yes, Blitz is a well respected name in the field of Turbo Timers. But
>the
>poor man's equivalent of a Turbo Timer is to just let your
car idle for a
>few
>minutes after driving it and that will
accomplish the same thing as the
>Turbo
>Timer .... it's just that
it's a LOT more convenient to turn your key
>switch
>off, and walk
away rather than sit in your car for 3-5 minutes as it
idles.
>
>Hope this
helps.
>
>Greg
>
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:39:43
-0800
From: "ian sweeney" <
sween3000gt@hotmail.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Turbo Timers
Brian,
the blitz dual is the one i saw.
Did you install it yourself? what
connections need to be
made?
thanks
ian
vr4 red '92
>From: "Geddes, Brian J"
<
brian.j.geddes@intel.com>
>To:
"'ian sweeney'" <
sween3000gt@hotmail.com>
>Subject:
RE: Team3S: Turbo Timers
>Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:32:58
-0800
>
>Depends on the particular turbo timer. Some timers
are just that - a
>timer.
>You set the desired time when you shut
off the car, and it keeps it going
>that long. The one I have (Blitz
Dual Turbo Timer) is actually a turbo
>timer and a digital boost gauge in
one unit. You can set the time
>manually,
>or you can have it
calculate time based on how much boost you have been
>making
recently. Works well except that it's recommended times are
usually
>pretty short, so I routinely add a minute to whatever time it
automatically
>sets. If you've got any questions about the unit, let
me know.
>
>- Brian
> >
> >
> >
>
> >Ian,
> > >
> > >To answer your question, they
need to be cooled with the
> > engine running
> >
>because
> > >that is the only way that cooler oil is being
circulated to
> > the Turbos.
> > >Otherwise you've got oil
just sitting in the turbos being
> > baked to a hard
> >
>crust
> > >and over time it can cause the Turbos to fail.
Now if you
> > could jury rig a
> > >way
> >
>to pump oil to the Turbos without the engine running it may
> >
work just as
> > >effectively, but I'm not sure it would be worth
the time,
> > hassle, and
> > >expense of
> >
>creating such a system.
> > >
> > >And yes, cooling
the Turbos substantially adds to the life
> > of the Turbos
>
> >and
> > >also helps reduce the clogging of the oil supply
lines to the Turbos.
> > >
> > >And yes, Blitz is a well
respected name in the field of
> > Turbo Timers. But
> >
>the
> > >poor man's equivalent of a Turbo Timer is to just let
your
> > car idle for a
> > >few
> > >minutes
after driving it and that will accomplish the same
> > thing as
the
> > >Turbo
> > >Timer .... it's just that it's a LOT
more convenient to turn
> > your key
> > >switch
>
> >off, and walk away rather than sit in your car for 3-5
> >
minutes as it idles.
> > >
> > >Hope this helps.
>
> >
> > >Greg
> > >
> >
> >
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 15:03:31
-0800
From: "Geddes, Brian J" <
brian.j.geddes@intel.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Turbo Timers
I did the install myself. I got a wiring
harnes, so hooking it up to the
ignition was quite painless. The only
other hookups were running the boost
line (not bad), and running a wire to
the parking brake sensor in the center
console. If the key is not in
the on positino, the timer will shut off the
car when the parking brake is
disengaged.
- - Brian
> -----Original Message-----
>
From: ian sweeney [
mailto:sween3000gt@hotmail.com]
>
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 2:40 PM
> To:
brian.j.geddes@intel.com> Cc:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Turbo Timers
>
>
> Brian,
>
> the blitz dual is the one i saw. Did you install it yourself? what
> connections need to be made?
>
> thanks
>
ian
> vr4 red '92
>
>
> >From: "Geddes, Brian J"
<
brian.j.geddes@intel.com>
>
>To: "'ian sweeney'" <
sween3000gt@hotmail.com>
>
>Subject: RE: Team3S: Turbo Timers
> >Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001
14:32:58 -0800
> >
> >Depends on the particular turbo
timer. Some timers are just
> that - a
> >timer.
>
>You set the desired time when you shut off the car, and it
> keeps it
going
> >that long. The one I have (Blitz Dual Turbo Timer) is
> actually a turbo
> >timer and a digital boost gauge in one
unit. You can set the time
> >manually,
> >or you can
have it calculate time based on how much boost
> you have been
>
>making recently. Works well except that it's recommended
>
times are usually
> >pretty short, so I routinely add a minute to
whatever time
> it automatically
> >sets. If you've got
any questions about the unit, let me know.
> >
> >-
Brian
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>Ian,
> > > >
> > > >To answer your question,
they need to be cooled with the
> > > engine running
> >
> >because
> > > >that is the only way that cooler oil is
being circulated to
> > > the Turbos.
> > >
>Otherwise you've got oil just sitting in the turbos being
> > >
baked to a hard
> > > >crust
> > > >and over time
it can cause the Turbos to fail. Now if you
> > > could jury
rig a
> > > >way
> > > >to pump oil to the Turbos
without the engine running it may
> > > work just as
> >
> >effectively, but I'm not sure it would be worth the time,
> >
> hassle, and
> > > >expense of
> > > >creating
such a system.
> > > >
> > > >And yes, cooling the
Turbos substantially adds to the life
> > > of the Turbos
>
> > >and
> > > >also helps reduce the clogging of the
oil supply lines
> to the Turbos.
> > > >
> >
> >And yes, Blitz is a well respected name in the field of
> >
> Turbo Timers. But
> > > >the
> > >
>poor man's equivalent of a Turbo Timer is to just let your
> > >
car idle for a
> > > >few
> > > >minutes after
driving it and that will accomplish the same
> > > thing as
the
> > > >Turbo
> > > >Timer .... it's just that
it's a LOT more convenient to turn
> > > your key
> > >
>switch
> > > >off, and walk away rather than sit in your car
for 3-5
> > > minutes as it idles.
> > > >
>
> > >Hope this helps.
> > > >
> > >
>Greg
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 12:48:54
-0800
From: "Steve Cooper" <
scooper@paradise.net.nz>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Turbo Timers
Hi all
I'll put in my 2 cents worth. I've
had turbo cars for over 20 years now and
never "cooked" a turbo. I've never
had a turbo timer and think they're a
waste of time. The original idea was to
let them cool a bit so the oil
doesn't overheat in the bearings and "coke"
up. Our mitsubishi turbos have
watercooled housings unlike old fashioned
Rajay turbos from 20 years ago.
Steve Cooper
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 23:12:46
-0500
From: "Trent" <
bdtrent@netzero.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Bleeding Brakes
All,
Can anyone offer why the service
manual directs you to have the car running
when bleeding the brakes. As
far as I can tell, I've had no problems doing
it without the car
running. On the other hand, I would like to get my
brakes as tight as
possible to compliment my new braided brake lines.
Thanks in
advance,
DaveT/92TT
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Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 20:25:15
-0800
From: "Jim Berry" <
fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Bleeding Brakes
I assume it's because of the ABS pump --- if the car is
off the pump is off.
Jim
Berry
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From: Trent <
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To: Team 3S
<
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Sent:
Friday, January 12, 2001 8:12 PM
Subject: Team3S: Bleeding
Brakes
> All,
>
> Can anyone offer why the service
manual directs you to have the car running
> when bleeding the
brakes. As far as I can tell, I've had no problems doing
> it
without the car running. On the other hand, I would like to get my
>
brakes as tight as possible to compliment my new braided brake lines.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> DaveT/92TT
>
>
> Shop
online without a credit card
>
http://www.rocketcash.com>
RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary
>
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Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 00:18:43
EST
From:
AABOMB1@aol.comSubject:
Team3S: Re: 60k tune-up question (sorry guys)
In a message dated
1/10/2001 9:49:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,
owner-team3s@mail.stealth-3000gt.st
writes:
> 1. Tools/ Do I NEED all three of
these tools? If so, what EXACTLY are
> they used
for?
On the Teams3S 60K faq, they only list two tools: the tensioner
pully socket
wrench and the end yoke holder. I'm not sure what that third
tool you saw was
for.
Check out Team3S's faq at:
http://www.stealth-3000gt.st/60k.htmAA
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