team3s
Thursday, January 11
2001 Volume 01 :
Number
374
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Date:
Wed, 10 Jan 2001 20:56:25 -0600
From: "Brad Bedell" <
bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: ACT or stock clutch?
I'd stick with the modified street disk
personally.
The 6 puck is pretty brutal and will have very harsh
engagement. The other
is more for a
streetcar.
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- -----Original Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st[
mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of Michael Bulaon
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 8:48 PM
To:
Team 3s
Subject: Team3S: ACT or stock clutch?
I'm looking to replace
my severely slipping stock clutch on my 95 VR-4. I've
ruled out any RPS
clutch and have narrowed it down to either an ACT or a
stock clutch.
I
don't plan to be a regular at the track this season, but I will be
there
occasionally, not to mention the occasional street race. So just
wondering
if the stock clutch would suffice or am I better off with the
ACT?
If the ACT, which one? According to ACT's site, there are two
clutches for
the VR-4. One with a 6pad disc, and another with modified street
disc. Which
one should I get? I was thinking of getting the 6pad to
accomodate the turbo
upgrade I plan to do in the near future. But how
streetable is the 6pad
disc. Any one with experience with ACT
clutches?
Any thoughts/suggestions greatly
appreciated.......
Regards,
Michael Bulaon
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Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 22:10:41
-0600
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <
mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: ACT or stock clutch?
> If the ACT, which one? According to
ACT's site, there are
> two clutches for the VR-4. One with a 6pad disc,
and
> another with modified street disc. Which one should I
> get? I
was thinking of getting the 6pad to accomodate the
> turbo upgrade I plan
to do in the near future. But how
> streetable is the 6pad disc. Any one
with experience
> with ACT clutches?
The ACT with the 6-puck disc
is pretty much a race setup. It is very grabby
and/or chattery if you
try to slip it much, which is going to be the case at
most stoplights.
Fairly brutal on the tranny as well. I talked to ACT
about it before
when I was looking at replacement clutches and they said the
6-puck was
track-only in their opinion. I got the street disc, which seems
to be a
slightly beefier version of the stock disc. Works fine - most of
the
grip is in the pressure plate, and the ACT plate has a somewhat
higher
clamping force than stock. I have 15G turbos, fuel system
upgrades, etc.
If it works in my heavy beast, it should be fine for your
uses.
- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4
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Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2001 21:17:32
-0700
From: Chris Brown <
cnbrown@uswest.net>
Subject: Team3S:
ECS Indicator Light
I have a 92 Stealth RT that has recently developed a
problem with the
ECS sport/tour indicator light. You will be driving along
with it set
in either sport or tour, then suddenly the indicator begins
to flash
both sport and tour almost like a turn signal. You can push
the ECS
button to try and make a selection but it will not stop the flashing
of
the indicator light. The only way to get it to stop is to turn the
car
off, and start it up again. But within a few minutes the same
thing
happens again. Any ideas on what is going on
here?
Thanks,
Chris Brown
'92 Stealth R/T
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 14:26:06
+0100
From: Roger Gerl <
roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Securing and Optima battery?
>Hunk of wood, or other
similar method to fill the space is acceptable if
>done cleanly and wiht
some imagination.
Yep, I exactly did it that way. Got two little blocks
of wood that are
placed under the bar on each side. Works
perfectly.
Roger
93'3000GT TT
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:00:13
-0500
From: "Karl Siebert" <
ksiebert@gow.org>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
transmision question
Does this mean that 91'-93' stealth ES's have a
getrag or not? A problem or
not?
- ----------
>From: "Basol,
John" <
jbasol@Carlson.com>
>To: "'Karl
Siebert'" <
ksiebert@gow.org>
>Subject: RE:
Team3S: transmision question
>Date: Wed, Jan 10, 2001, 2:02
PM
>
> The Trans in your ES is made by Mitsubishi, and is
serviceable. The only
> problem ones are the Getrag 5 ('91-'93) and
6 ('94+) speeds. Hope this
> helps.
>
>
John
>
>
>
> -----Original
Message-----
> From: Karl Siebert [
SMTP:ksiebert@gow.org]
>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2001 12:42 PM
> To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Subject: Team3S: transmision question
>
> I know that the 6
speed transmissions (getrag?) found in vr-4's and
> tt's
>
have a lot of problems. They are hard to find parts for and are a
>
expensive
> to fix. I have a Stealth ES, and it has a 5
speed. Is the
> transmission
> made by the same people,
and is it as much of a problem? Can it be
> rebuilt,
>
or can I find parts for it?
>
> Thanks,
>
Karl
>
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:48:37
-0500
From: "Michael D. Crose" <
ncsu4me@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Securing an Optima battery?
Thanks for the response guys. I
will shim it up this weekend.
Thanks
again,
Michael
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:26:40
-0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: ECS Indicator Light
You may have a loose or corroded
connector on one of the four shocks, or a
broken wire in the ECS harness
leading to the connectors. If you read the
trouble code, it will tell
you which shock(s) are causing the fault.
Another possibility is that the
shaft on one of the shocks has rotated so
that it barely makes electrical
contact. We learned that the orientation of
the shaft in the electrically
controlled shocks is important when we
installed our Ground Control
suspension.
Chuck
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
Chris Brown [
SMTP:cnbrown@uswest.net]
> Sent:
Wednesday, January 10, 2001 10:18 PM
> To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Subject: Team3S: ECS Indicator Light
>
> I have a 92 Stealth RT
that has recently developed a problem with the
> ECS sport/tour indicator
light. You will be driving along with it set
> in either sport or
tour, then suddenly the indicator begins to flash
> both sport and tour
almost like a turn signal. You can push the ECS
> button to try and
make a selection but it will not stop the flashing of
> the indicator
light. The only way to get it to stop is to turn the car
> off, and
start it up again. But within a few minutes the same thing
> happens
again. Any ideas on what is going on here?
>
>
Thanks,
> Chris Brown
> '92 Stealth R/T
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:31:14
-0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Securing and Optima battery?
You guys just saved me $65 for
the right-sized battery! Some of us have
very little
imagination!
Chuck
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
Roger Gerl [
SMTP:roger.gerl@bluewin.ch]
>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 7:26 AM
> To:
team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Securing and Optima battery?
>
>
>
>Hunk of wood, or other similar method to fill the space is acceptable
if
> >done cleanly and wiht some imagination.
>
> Yep, I
exactly did it that way. Got two little blocks of wood that are
> placed
under the bar on each side. Works perfectly.
>
> Roger
>
93'3000GT TT
>
www.rtec.ch>
>
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 18:38:28
+0400
From: Andrew Spargo <
spargo@emirates.net.ae>
Subject:
Team3S: Require advice
Hopefully some members can help me with advise for
a 1999 VR4 Middle East
specs. This car is not quite the same as USA specs.
Having followed the list
for a few months now my car is leaded petrol
(300HP), does have ECS, is a 5
speed, low rear spoiler etc. In other words
similar to "older" 3000 GT's.
The car was purchased new this year and the
only thing I have added is a
Blitz Turbo Timer.
I would like to change the
exhaust system in the near future but most
systems I have seen are for
"unleaded" petrol. Can anyone recommend a decent
street legal system for a
"leaded" 1999 model. Please feel free to contact
via my e-mail
address.
(A Brit working in the U.A.E.)
Andy Spargo
PO Box
45373
Abu Dhabi
United Arab
Emirates
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:48:20
-0600
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <
mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: transmision question
> Does this mean that 91'-93' stealth
ES's have a getrag or
> not? A problem or not?
Only the
twin-turbo cars have Getrag transmissions. The rest
are
Mitsubishi-built trannys and you can get rebuild parts from the dealers
if
anything breaks. They seem to be good quality overall and we (here)
don't
hear about many failures. The design itself is very similar to
the FWD
transmissions in the Eclipse/Talon/Laser cars. Synchronizer
rings can get
to be a problem, but are replacable with factory parts for
reasonable
prices.
- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 08:19:21
-0800
From: "Jim Berry" <
fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Require advice
Things that make you go HMMMMM !!!! Your statement that
the car requires
leaded fuel is confusing. The two items in a car that don't
like lead are the
catalytic converter and the O2 sensors. If there are no
emission restrictions
the catalytic converter can be removed. But, the O2
sensors, which are used
by the ECU to determine A/F ratio will be
contaminated by leaded fuel and
will not function
correctly.
Jim
Berry
===================================================
- -----
Original Message -----
From: Andrew Spargo <
spargo@emirates.net.ae>
To:
Team3S <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
Hopefully some members can help me with advise for a 1999 VR4 Middle
East
> specs. This car is not quite the same as USA specs. Having followed
the list
> for a few months now my car is leaded petrol (300HP), does have
ECS, is a 5
> speed, low rear spoiler etc. In other words similar to
"older" 3000 GT's.
> The car was purchased new this year and the only
thing I have added is a
> Blitz Turbo Timer.
> I would like to
change the exhaust system in the near future but most
> systems I have
seen are for "unleaded" petrol. Can anyone recommend a decent
> street
legal system for a "leaded" 1999 model. Please feel free to contact
> via
my e-mail address.
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:42:41
-0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Require advice
I'm confused even more than Jim. I
thought the term "street legal" when
applied to exhaust systems in the US
meant it didn't eliminate the catalytic
converter. Since a lead gas
model has no cat, the American "track only"
exhaust ought to be just dandy
for the Middle East. I have no idea what
happened to the O2
sensors.
Chuck
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim
Berry [
SMTP:fastmax@home.com]
>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 10:19 AM
> To:
spargo@bigfoot.com; Team3S
> Subject:
Re: Team3S: Require advice
>
> Things that make you go HMMMMM !!!!
Your statement that the car requires
> leaded fuel is confusing. The two
items in a car that don't like lead are
> the
> catalytic converter
and the O2 sensors. If there are no emission
> restrictions
> the
catalytic converter can be removed. But, the O2 sensors, which are
>
used
> by the ECU to determine A/F ratio will be contaminated by leaded
fuel and
> will not function correctly.
>
> Jim Berry
>
===================================================
>
> -----
Original Message -----
> From: Andrew Spargo <
spargo@emirates.net.ae>
> To:
Team3S <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
> > Hopefully some members can help me with advise for a 1999 VR4
Middle
> East
> > specs. This car is not quite the same as USA
specs. Having followed the
> list
> > for a few months now my car
is leaded petrol (300HP), does have ECS, is
> a 5
> > speed, low
rear spoiler etc. In other words similar to "older" 3000
> GT's.
>
> The car was purchased new this year and the only thing I have added is
a
> > Blitz Turbo Timer.
> > I would like to change the
exhaust system in the near future but most
> > systems I have seen are
for "unleaded" petrol. Can anyone recommend a
> decent
> > street
legal system for a "leaded" 1999 model. Please feel free to
>
contact
> > via my e-mail address.
>
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 11:46:17
EST
From:
StevePKT77@aol.comSubject: Re: Team3S:
Require advice
But his car (I would think) is equipped for leaded fuel,
stock, since it's a
Middle-Eastern spec car. So I'm sure it doesn't
have o2 sensors or cat
converters. I don't know of anything that
leaded fuel requires in terms of
exhaust, it's all about what requires
UNleaded fuel (like you said, o2 sensor
& cat).
So my guess
would be you can put whatever aftermarket exhaust you want on
there, unless
there are some type of local laws which restrict exhaust types
in the U.A.E.
(But what would they be? It's foreign to me).
If the aftermarket
exhaust you buy has o2 sensors and cats, you'll never know
the difference
because your car doesn't use them.
- -Steve
In a message dated
01/11/2001 11:22:14 AM Eastern Standard Time,
fastmax@home.com writes:
<<
Things that make you go HMMMMM !!!! Your statement that the car
requires
leaded fuel is confusing. The two items in a car that don't
like lead are the
catalytic converter and the O2 sensors. If there are
no emission restrictions
the catalytic converter can be removed. But,
the O2 sensors, which are used
by the ECU to determine A/F ratio will
be contaminated by leaded fuel and
will not function correctly.
>>
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 11:53:57
EST
From:
Smburrows@aol.comSubject: Team3S: Motor
Needed
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Needing
a 93+ Twin Turbo motor.
In need of rebuild also considered.
Contact me at
smburrows@aol.comThanks
Steve
Burrows
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 11:17:20
-0600
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <
mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Require advice
> So I'm sure it doesn't have o2 sensors or
cat
> converters. I don't know of anything that leaded
> fuel
requires in terms of exhaust, it's all about
> what requires UNleaded fuel
(like you said, o2
> sensor & cat).
The ECU won't be
very happy without O2 sensors to calibrate partial-throttle
fuel trims.
There are more expensive O2 sensors that are more resistant to
lead fouling
than the ones we get in the rest of the world, perhaps this car
is equipped
with those.
Or maybe it is equipped with a rack of blow-through
carburetors. Ha! ;-)
- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder
VR4
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:22:49
-0800 (PST)
From: Jeff Lucius <
stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Motor Needed
Hi Steve,
Check out the huge Links Page
at my web site for some possible
commercial sources for remans. Look in these
sections.
"Speed Shops and Online Stores that specialize in our
cars"
"Engines - Remanufacture, Internal parts"
For discount dealers
as sources of new engines/parts look in this
section.
"Dealerships
On-line"
For used parts yards look at the Garage Page and this section on
the
Links Page.
"Used Parts"
Also, the 3SI message board has a
"Parts for Sale" section.
Jeff Lucius,
www.stealth316.com- ----- Original
Message -----
From:
Smburrows@aol.com
To:
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 9:53 AM
Subject: Team3S: Motor
Needed
Needing a 93+ Twin Turbo motor.
In need of rebuild also
considered.
Contact me at
smburrows@aol.com Thanks
Steve
Burrows
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:43:35
-0800 (PST)
From: George Kuo <
amkreadgto@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Attn: Road Racers..
Anyone have a good way, or ideas, to secure a
laptop
inside the
car??
Thanks,
George
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:53:16
-0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Attn: Road Racers..
- -Find an old briefcase large enough for
the laptop.
- -Tear the top off (or keep it depending on how you want to
store it)
- -Place stiff foam in the case, cut out a cavity for the laptop to
sit
snugly into (including top if you go that route)
- -put holes in the
bottom of the laptop case, reinforce with sheet metal.
- -Cut out cable
access into the case.
- -Bolt case to floor of car.
- -Place laptop in
padded area inside the secured cased.
- -Close lid if you went that
route.
On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, George Kuo wrote:
> Anyone have a
good way, or ideas, to secure a laptop
> inside the car??
>
>
Thanks,
> George
>
>
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:39:23
-0800 (PST)
From: George Kuo <
amkreadgto@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Leaded vs Unleaded gas
I have a choice of 100 Octane
Unleaded & 110 Leaded
race gas at the track. I have a few
questions:
1) Can I mix my 92oct unleaded with the 100oct
unleaded? (I
assume yes, but just want to make sure.)
2) I've heard running Leaded gas
is bad for the cat &
O2 sensors. I have gutted pre-cats and no main
cat.
Will I run into damaging my O2 sensor if I run the
110Leaded for the
weekend??
3) Can I mix Unleaded and Leaded gas??
Thanks
again.
/George
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 18:47:37
-0600
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <
mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Leaded vs Unleaded gas
> 1) Can I mix my 92oct
unleaded with the 100oct
> unleaded? (I assume yes, but just want to make
sure.)
Its best to have as little of the low-octane stuff in the tank as
possible.
I hook up a hose on the return line of the fuel pressure regulator
and pump
it out into an empty gas can. You can mix it, but you'll be
running an
essentially unknown octane of fuel. Mixing in ratios
supposedly doesn't
result in the average of the octanes - it is always a
little lower. (ie:
50% 92 and 50% 100 = something like 94, not
96.)
> 2) I've heard running Leaded gas is bad for the cat
&
> O2 sensors. I have gutted pre-cats and no main cat.
>
Will I run into damaging my O2 sensor if I run the
> 110Leaded for the
weekend??
A few gallons isn't going to seriously damage the O2
sensors. More than say
15-20 gallons starts to degrade them some.
The effect is somewhat gradual.
> 3) Can I mix Unleaded and Leaded
gas??
Yes.
- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 18:39:05
-0800
From: "Jim Berry" <
fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Leaded vs Unleaded gas
Is the damage to the O2 sensor
cumulative or will the deposits burn off
over a period of a month or so. I'm
going to an open track event with
George this weekend and probably won't go
again for a month.
I also saw a post some time back saying you can burn
the deposits
off with a propane torch ---- true or old wives tale
???
Jim
Berry
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- ----- Original Message
-----
From: Jannusch, Matt <
mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
To:
'George Kuo' <
amkreadgto@yahoo.com>; Team3SI <
team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
> 2) I've heard running Leaded gas is bad for the cat &
> > O2
sensors. I have gutted pre-cats and no main cat.
> > Will I run
into damaging my O2 sensor if I run the
> > 110Leaded for the
weekend??
>
> A few gallons isn't going to seriously damage the O2
sensors. More than say
> 15-20 gallons starts to degrade them
some. The effect is somewhat gradual.
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Date: Thu, 11 Jan 2001 19:23:27
-0800 (PST)
From: John Christian <
jczoom_619@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Attn: Road Racers..
Hi Goeff,
That may be okay for your
car and mine, but I'll bet
many on this list haven't devoted their car to
track
use and probably still have creature comforts like
carpeting,
etc.
Do you use your laptop to collect data from your
datalogger while
road racing?? Is the data
beneficial??
Be of good
cheer,
John
- --- Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
wrote:
> -Find an old briefcase large enough for the laptop.
> -Tear
the top off (or keep it depending on how you
> want to store it)
>
-Place stiff foam in the case, cut out a cavity for
> the laptop to
sit
> snugly into (including top if you go that route)
> -put holes
in the bottom of the laptop case,
> reinforce with sheet metal.
>
-Cut out cable access into the case.
> -Bolt case to floor of car.
>
-Place laptop in padded area inside the secured
> cased.
> -Close
lid if you went that route.
>
> On Thu, 11 Jan 2001, George Kuo
wrote:
>
> > Anyone have a good way, or ideas, to secure
a
> laptop
> > inside the car??
> >
> >
Thanks,
> > George
> >
> >
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> > Do You
Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online!
>
>
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>
> > *** Info:
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>
>
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Please respond to
jczoom@iname.com'93 TT with Porsche
brakes and Supra TT rotors
12.4@109MPH 5/97 almost stock
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