team3s           Wednesday, January 3 2001           Volume 01 : Number 366




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Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 10:01:13 -0500
From: Marc Jonathan Jacobs <Marc.Jacobs@usa.alcatel.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Triple Gauge Pod

Darren, the "triple pod guy" was Dan Mercier with a '94 VR-4.  He had a
dual and single stacked.  I don't know where he got the passenger side
pods.  I was only aware of drivers side aftermarket pillar pods.  Maybe
they were DSMs.  Dan also replaced his 3 factory guages with aftermarket
ones.  I believe they were all Autometer White faced.

Dan and Steve Burroughs are starting a little company that will sell
DUAL guages.  It will have 2 readouts in one 52mm guage.  This saves
lots of space, and eliminates the need for pillar pods.


dschilberg@freemarkets.com WROTE:
   At the First Blue Ridge Gathering this past year I saw at least one
3000GT with a triple gauge pod on both the driver's and passenger's side
A-pillars.  The passenger's side is harder to see so was used for
less-important gauges to the driver (maybe intake temp and stuff like
that).
   Maybe somebody will come forward that it was their car.  I can't
remember
if that was a TT or N/A car as one of the guys was running nitrous on
his NA
so a few gauges could have been for that.  I took some video of it that
I
might review if I don't find the picture of it.

- --
Marc J. Jacobs Blue '94 VR-4
xDSL Hardware Development
Alcatel, Raleigh USA     (919) 850-6386

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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 07:03:04 -0800 (PST)
From: Jeff Lucius <stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Triple Gauge Pod

When I talked to a tech at Autometer 2 years ago, he said they did
not make a triple A-pillar pod for our cars and had no plans to do
so. There may be other manufacturers of a triple pod but I have not
found them. As others have done, I used a dual and single and careful
carving with an Exacto knife to make a "triple" pod. Pictures are at
my web site. I found that occasionally I would bump the closest gauge
with my head if working near the dash on something. Not really a big
deal. And a large person may have to be careful to avoid the last pod
when entering the car.

Jeff Lucius, www.stealth316.com

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "cody" <overclck@flash.net>
To: "starnet" <stealth@starnet.net>
Cc: "Team3S" <team3s@mail.stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 9:34 PM
Subject: Team3S: Triple Gauge Pod

Where can i find one, or are they even manufactured for our cars?

I swear I have seen one, but can't find it for the life of me now...

- -Cody


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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 10:12:22 -0500
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Triple Gauge Pod

Thanks mucho, Marc.  His passenger gauge pods were the same as the driver's.
This was a left-hand drive car so the ones on the passenger side were as if
it were a right-hand drive car.  That is the reason the angle was better for
a passenger to read or for non-critical gauges.

Looking forward to those 2-in-1 gauges soon.  :-)

- --Flash!
dschilberg@freemarkets.com

3Si #577
1995 Black VR-4 w/ K&N FIPK, Magnecor 8.5 wires, and a custom spark plug
plate
http://www.ec3s.org/images/members/flash001full.jpg

- -----Original Message-----
From: Marc Jonathan Jacobs [mailto:Marc.Jacobs@usa.alcatel.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 10:01 AM
To: Team3S; dschilberg@freemarkets.com
Subject: RE: Team3S: Triple Gauge Pod

Darren, the "triple pod guy" was Dan Mercier with a '94 VR-4.  He had a
dual and single stacked.  I don't know where he got the passenger side
pods.  I was only aware of drivers side aftermarket pillar pods.  Maybe
they were DSMs.  Dan also replaced his 3 factory guages with aftermarket
ones.  I believe they were all Autometer White faced.

Dan and Steve Burroughs are starting a little company that will sell
DUAL guages.  It will have 2 readouts in one 52mm guage.  This saves
lots of space, and eliminates the need for pillar pods.


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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 07:32:05 -0800 (PST)
From: Jeff Lucius <stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Help, car does not start

Hmmm. How would the scanner know that the engine was running rich if
the stock O2 sensor was bad? Does the scanner have its own sensor?
Seems to me that if the mixture is rich and the stock O2 sensor shows
that, then the sensor is fine. Just a guess. :)

Jeff Lucius, www.stealth316.com

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Rudy Morales" <rumcu@cunyvm.cuny.edu>
To: <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2000 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Help, car does not start

<snip>
looking at the scanner with the engine running my friend said that
it was at rich all the time (and he says it should rich then lean
then
rich then lean, etc) he said it probably is a bad O2 sensor and that
the computer is sending too much gas mixture and it floods the
engine.
<snip>

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Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 09:25:14 -0800
From: Ken Middaugh <Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: clacking noise question

Hi Todd,

On my '91 VR4 with 128K, I get a lot of lifter noise using Mobil 1 10-30.
Therefore, I usually run 15-50 even in winter.  This reduces lifter noise
immensely.  There are some oil reports on the web that show Mobil 1 still flows
superbly even in sub-zero conditions.  See the "pour point" on the chart at
http://www.micapeak.com/info/oiled.html.  Mobil 1 5-30 has a pour point of -65
degrees F, while 15-50 is only 10 degrees higher at -55 F.

Try the higher viscosity oil to see if the problem diminishes.  You should have
no damage.

See you,
Ken

> My car was making a funny noise a few days ago, so I parked it. I think
> it was a lifter problem, but it's gone now. I would like an opinion from
> you guys on the list.
>
> History: '94 vr-4 120k miles. flushed oil with "gunk", ran 10-40 dino
> oil for ~1000 miles. parts store was out of 10-30 mobil1, so used 5-30
> mobil1 instead, new filter.
>
> Problem: started on christmas vac. trip. at about 600 miles (Utah,
> really cold to us californians) pulled over for gas. when i stopped at
> the pump it started clacking really badly. changed with rpm. assumed it
> was a rod bearing. got a hotel room because I was really frustrated at
> this point. (had a blow out at 300 miles. finished off my bad rim, and
> new tire kept leaking) in the morning I started it up, and the noise was
> gone. turned around and headed home. started ticking again, below 2500
> rmp, after about 150 miles. got stuck in LA traffic. now ticking was
> just between 2500 and 3000 rpm. when I got home i played with it. noise
> seemed to be from top end, instead of bottom. hoping it was just a
> sticky lifter which didn't like the thinner oil.
>
> Questions:
> Could this be a collapsed/stuck lifter?
> Did I do any damage driving with it this way?
>
> I would appreciate any feedback or opinions from you guys.


- --
If you lived in your car, you'd be home by now.

Ken Middaugh (858) 455-4510
General Atomics - Fusion Group, San Diego, CA

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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:33:03 -0500
From: "Mihai Raicu" <aa2345@wayne.edu>
Subject: Team3S: CARPARTS CODES!!!

Everybody,

Does anyone have a new code for CARPARTS.COM?  The 33% OFF code (1963005)
expired already.  I talked to them about it and they do not want to give me
the discount.  If anyone else has a new code, please let me know.

- -MIKE-          aa2345@wayne.edu
95 Red VR4
Apexi AVC-R Electronic Boost Controller
K&N FIPK, Boost Gauge, EGT Meter

Detroit Metro Area, Michigan


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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 15:03:56 -0500
From: "Russell Edwards" <blue@cois.on.ca>
Subject: Re:  Team3S: it's only money hahaha

 Joe
 I decided to take the car instead to a "local mechanic" and this time i
made sure the car was warm !!
There it passed the pre test and he is at this moment diagnosing the reason
for failing the actual test that he carried out (high HC levels)
the car is stock and I had a feeling it might  fail as I have the typical
(or so i am told) blue smoke "puff" after idling for a few minutes when the
engine is at operating temp. Which according to posts on the 3si web site is
caused by leaking valve stem seals.
I had planned to get that job done and wasn't sure if it was possible to do
them with the heads on (only way i have done this in the past was to
pressurize the cylinder with an adapter to fit the plug hole but that was on
a Small block v8 ) as finding a workshop manual for the stealth has proven
impossible.
Thanks for the advice
Russell Edwards

$2500 is way too much if just new valve stem seals will fix it.  I haven't
heard
of too many people needing to replace valve guides unless a timing belt
 slipped and valves hit pistons.  Seals shouldn't cost much and can be
swapped
without  removing the heads. Only guessing, but job is maybe worth 5 hours
labor so
 maybe  $500 Canadian tops for parts and labor.

BTW - was the engine fully warmed up before they did the pre-inspection?,
 if not do so next time.  Is your car moded with bigger injectors and fuel
computers  etc.?, just curious if you were expecting to pass or not.

 Best of luck,
 Joe Gonsowski



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Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 15:12:45 EST
From: XCricKX@aol.com
Subject: RE: Team3S: High Flow Cat?

are we talking about turbo or NA?  

i heard that for turbo cars its good to have high flow cat or no cat but for
NA we gonna lost some low end torque. 

is this true??

ben
http://www.drdisturbed.com

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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 12:57:41 -0800
From: "Bart Kurek" <bart_kurek@eli.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: CARPARTS CODES!!!

Good coupon page...

http://www.importhookup.com

- -Bart Kurek
Sales Engineer
Electric Lightwave Inc. (ELIX)
http://www.eli.net
mailto:bart.kurek@eli.net


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Mihai Raicu" <aa2345@wayne.edu>
To: "Stealth" <team3s@mail.stealth-3000gt.st>
Cc: <WDBO39@erols.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 11:33 AM
Subject: Team3S: CARPARTS CODES!!!


> Everybody,
>
> Does anyone have a new code for CARPARTS.COM?  The 33% OFF code (1963005)
> expired already.  I talked to them about it and they do not want to give
me
> the discount.  If anyone else has a new code, please let me know.
>
> -MIKE-          aa2345@wayne.edu
> 95 Red VR4
> Apexi AVC-R Electronic Boost Controller
> K&N FIPK, Boost Gauge, EGT Meter
>
> Detroit Metro Area, Michigan
>
>
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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 13:49:28 -0800
From: "Chris Maxwell" <shmacker@home.com>
Subject: Team3S: Clutch problem - update

Well, after listening to some peoples' opinions on the clutch fork, it's
fine.  But today, after looking at the pressure plate more carefully, I
noticed that there was a loose bolt that was about to fall off.  So I
removed the clutch and flywheel (I have to replace the leaking crank seal
anyways) and I noticed the flywheel is extrememly worn.  The surface is
completely scratched and uneven for the entire area that the clutch disc
touches the flywheel.  I have the RPS Stage III clutch disc and pressure
plate with the stock flywheel.  For only driving 5000 miles since I
installed the clutch, I would imagine this is not normal.  So after talking
to my friend...here's his theory:

The clutch isn't disengaging because he thinks my slave cylinder is toast
even though it's only 5000 miles old.  Because of the loose bolt on the
pressure plate, the clutch disc was unevenly set and started to wear away at
the flywheel.  This situation was only worsened because of the worn slave.

I agree with the pressure plate part, but I'm still unsure about the slave
wearing away so fast.  I looked at it and there isn't any signs of leaking
in the boot.  While that doesn't mean the slave is okay, I find it
coincidental that both problems occured at the same time.  So here's my
question:

Is it possible that the loose bolt on the pressure plate could cause my
disengagement problem (the clutch doesn't disengage fully, even after
adjusting the pedal and booster rod nut).  Is it possible that the flywheel
was worn away so much that this somehow screwed up the disengaging process.
I would imagine that the clutch would probably slip rather than stay
together if this was the case, but I just have to ask anyways.

I'm just about had enough with this car's reliability as of this past year
and a half...and I'm loosing my patience with it.

Thanks again,
Chris "The Dis-heartened" Maxwell


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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 14:58:12 -0800
From: "Bart Kurek" <bart_kurek@eli.net>
Subject: Team3S: more on suspension

    A little more clarity on spring issues. Here's a brief run down on what
I've found with my own independent research.
1. Eibach - no application for any model 95 and up with a sunroof.
2. Intrax - Claims they fit with 83.55 rule. (read H&R)
3. H&R - Made the most sense of all. They explained that it actually has
nothing to do with the sunroof. How they explained it....The suspension was
built a little differently on 95 + models. The rear springs specifically. It
was hard to tell which model had which rear spring BUT every car that had a
sunroof had the more than one possibility. So it was simply easier to say,
"If it has a sunroof we can't fit it." This may or may not be true however.
H&R has springs for either of the two possibilities on a 95+. The one in
their catalog fits any model without a sunroof and some of the ones with a
sunroof. If you need the other model call and ask. They have them both.
Unfortunately it's only a one inch drop in front and rear. What they suggest
we all do is if the spring looks the same size it probably is. Intrax
specifically said diameter at the top needs to be 83.55mm. They'll drop it
1.7/1.5.
4. Neuspeed - Nothing.
5. Progress - Nothing.
6. HKS - ?

    This all makes for a much more believable story to me. What I'll do on
my '97 SL with an electric sunroof is to take out the rear springs and
measure every possible angle. Then I'll call all the spring companies back
and ask again based on measurements. Unless someone has already tried this?
I didn't see it come up in the search of archives....

- -Bart Kurek
Sales Engineer
Electric Lightwave Inc. (ELIX)
http://www.eli.net
mailto:bart.kurek@eli.net


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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 19:37:47 -0500
From: "Russell Edwards" <blue@cois.on.ca>
Subject: Team3S: its only money--latest update

Well finally got the results from  my local mechanic
car has past the test "conditionally" which means no visible smoke or other
problems but not a full pass (this means i cannot sell the car and have to
have it fixed properly within 2 years)
final diagnosis is bad rings/compression on 2 cylinders , marginal on the
third (all on the rear bank)
plus the original valve stem seal problem
only good news is that my "local" mechanic can remove the engine send it out
to a reputable machine shop (i have dealt with them before so i know they
are good)
for a full rebuild and reinstall for $3300 cdn + taxes
so looks like thats what i will be doing
I will be leaving it until March as they have too much work on at present
but at least  I can use it in the meantime
will keep you all posted
Russell
92 Stealth R/T
2000 Intrepid R/T
86 Corvette


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Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 06:44:11 -0800
From: Richard <radanc@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: High Flow Cat?

It is a fair price, but it is a rather wimpy cat. The old ceramic ATR
cat was a disaster (check previous posts). It disintegrated rather
quickly. I have had the new ATR high flow cat in for over 10k miles now
with no problems like the old one, but there are better ones for more
$$$.

Rich
92 Stealth TT

Jeff Lucius wrote:
>
> Well the ATR "high-flow" cat weighs 10 pounds less than the stocker
> (5 vs. 15). The ATR also has 3" openings versus the 2.37" openings of
> the stocker. I could see through the ATR cat; the stocker was like a
> solid block (after 55,000 miles of course). A quick search of the net
> showed that dyno results can be nearly identical for performance
> engines with an open exhaust versus with a cat, with the right
> tuning. While replacing a cat only that is working well is not worth
> it, it is probably a good idea to replace it if the rest of the
> exhaust is being upgraded. $175 seems like a very fair price.
>
> Jeff Lucius, www.stealth316.com
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Geoff Mohler" <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
> To: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
> Cc: "Team3S" <team3s@mail.stealth-3000gt.st>
> Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 8:29 PM
> Subject: RE: Team3S: High Flow Cat?
>
> Ive heard this multiple times from shops all over the country (and
> out of
> it).
>
> SCC even did a test with a 'high flow' cat once, and lost 2hp.
>
> *shrug*
>
> A convertor has to have a certain amount of resistance to flow to
> work,
> because the gasses need to stay in contact with the catylist for a
> long
> enough period of time to work.
>
> On Mon, 1 Jan 2001, Barry E. King wrote:
>
> > I asked my muffler guy about a hi-flow cat a few years back.  He
> said
> > "You're looking at it" and pointed to the stocker.  He could sell
> me Random
> > Technologies and others and make some cash, but he stated, without
> > hesitation, that they don't offer any improvement over a stock one.
>  He told
> > me he'd sell me one if I wanted or if I needed a new one, but other
> than
> > that there would be zero benefit.  *shrug*
> >
> > Notice how the flow comparisons offered by these companies are
> never against
> > a stock cat (at least not the last time I chekced)?  I'll get one
> when I
> > need a replacement, but I don't think I'll bother until that time.
> Seems to
> > be better places to spend the money.
> >
> >
> > Barry
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > > In search of more upgrades to do to my car as of now, i stumbled
> upon this
> > > site which lists larger flow cats for VR-4s for $175.  What
> diameter is
> > > this?  I am going with a 3" exhaust system to a muffler then two
> > > 2.25" outs
> > > from there.
> > >
> > > www.discountconverter.com
> > >
> > > Would that be beneficial, or should I look to another company  -
> Random
> > > Technologies???
> > >
> > > -Cody
>
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Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 21:55:58 -0500
From: Joe Gonsowski <twinturbo@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: its only money--latest update

I would do one more test before deciding to pull the engine.  Leakdown (aka
differential pressures) the rear cylinders and determine if the leakage is past
the valves or rings (you will be able to hear the leak path if you pressurize
the cylinder to 100psi.  If it is by the valves, you only need to pull the rear
bank head.  Loss of compression on one bank could easily be caused by a cam
skipping a couple teeth (or mistimed during a tune-up) and lightly kissing the
pistons before being corrected.  Or possibly over revving the engine from a
downshift when you're trying to upshift and the valves on a given cam may float
enough to hit the pistons before revs get back under control.

Although $3,300 Canadian sounds extremely cheap for the work involved (assuming
they do good work).

Again, good luck,
Joe Gonsowski

Russell Edwards wrote:

> Well finally got the results from  my local mechanic
> car has past the test "conditionally" which means no visible smoke or other
> problems but not a full pass (this means i cannot sell the car and have to
> have it fixed properly within 2 years)
> final diagnosis is bad rings/compression on 2 cylinders , marginal on the
> third (all on the rear bank)
> plus the original valve stem seal problem
> only good news is that my "local" mechanic can remove the engine send it out
> to a reputable machine shop (i have dealt with them before so i know they
> are good)
> for a full rebuild and reinstall for $3300 cdn + taxes
> so looks like thats what i will be doing
> I will be leaving it until March as they have too much work on at present
> but at least  I can use it in the meantime
> will keep you all posted
> Russell
> 92 Stealth R/T
> 2000 Intrepid R/T
> 86 Corvette
>
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Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 20:38:32 -0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: High Flow Cat?

> While replacing a cat only that is working well is not worth it
- ---

I disagree.  Its a well known fact at as a convertor ages, it slowly loses
flow efficiency and catylitic efficiency as well.  10-15Hp can be lost in
an old convertor as you approach 90-100k miles.


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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 00:58:16 -0600
From: "cody" <overclck@flash.net>
Subject: Team3S: Cold Air Just Got Easier???

Ok, so, maybe this product has been around a while, but for some reason, i
just now thought of this (I think of some things at the weirdest times I
swear)

Regardless - I was browsing Ebay Motors, and found an air filter that I will
believe will work with my generic 3" cone adapter for the generic DIS style,
K&N filter.  The product I have seen is made by rActive (I think) and I have
seen it as complete systems for other cars.  My question is - looking at the
design of it, with the semi-heat shield thing in place, it looks pretty easy
to add some nice 4" ducting that could virtually run anywhere...  cold air
made easy...

What do you all think???

Here is a sample pic I found..
http://home.att.net/~zvs/filter/filteryel3.jpg

- -Cody


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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:12:49 +0100
From: "Roger Gerl \(RTEC\)" <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: more on suspension

The only answer to this is to get a Ground Control Kit with Eibach springs
and the stock spring rate. Anything else will result in squeeks and rattles
in the sunroof.

Here in Europe we do have springs called "Apex Springs"  and the lower the
car more than an inch. They do not have an exception for the cars equipped
with sunroofs.

>     A little more clarity on spring issues. Here's a brief run down on
what
> I've found with my own independent research.

Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch


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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:09:36 +0100
From: "Roger Gerl \(RTEC\)" <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: High Flow Cat?

> It is a fair price, but it is a rather wimpy cat. The old ceramic ATR
> cat was a disaster (check previous posts). It disintegrated rather
> quickly.

Yes, unfortunately Rich is right as I also had the very same ceramic cat,
very light but not worth any money. ATR exchanged the cat without any cost
and I got the heavier metal cat. Please note, the ceramic one is 10 lbs
ligehr due to the small two ceramic cat pieces at the in and out section of
it. The metallic version now has a full metall part that flows well but is
also heavier !

> I have had the new ATR high flow cat in for over 10k miles now
> with no problems like the old one, but there are better ones for more
> $$$.

The metal one is really godd and it is made my Random Tech. It is available
form RT directly with different inlet/outlet sizes and flanges.

Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch


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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:57:27 +0100
From: "Roger Gerl \(RTEC\)" <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Cold Air Just Got Easier???

> seen it as complete systems for other cars.  My question is - looking at
the
> design of it, with the semi-heat shield thing in place, it looks pretty
easy
> to add some nice 4" ducting that could virtually run anywhere...  cold air
> made easy...

No it is not easy at all to run any duct top the filter. Almost no chance
for the TT cars.

Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch


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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:05:41 +0100
From: "Roger Gerl \(RTEC\)" <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: its only money--latest update

> I would do one more test before deciding to pull the engine.  Leakdown
(aka
> differential pressures) the rear cylinders and determine if the leakage is
past
> the valves or rings (you will be able to hear the leak path if you
pressurize
> the cylinder to 100psi.

Even more, it is important that a good engine flush as well as a good carbon
cleaning is done prior to these tests. Especially the leak down can show
strange results when the valve seats are clogged up by carbon.

Furthermore, the engine does not need to be pulled as we were able to work
through the oil pan and from the top. This pushed the overall cost
significantly down by about a grand.

I have only read "lower compression" but do you have the figures of all
cylinders ? And did they removed the carbon beforehand ? And as already
asked what is the timing belt adjusted to ?

Hmm, I'd like to see the figures again but with proper testing

Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch


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Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:02:54 -0600
From: "cody" <overclck@flash.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Cold Air Just Got Easier???

ok ok, but ~easier???~

what about running the duct, not from the front of the car, but maybe
relocating the battery, and running the duct from the rear firewall closer
to the ground???

(there should be room in the N/A's...)

- -Cody


#> seen it as complete systems for other cars.  My question is - looking at
#the
#> design of it, with the semi-heat shield thing in place, it looks pretty
#easy
#> to add some nice 4" ducting that could virtually run anywhere...
# cold air
#> made easy...
#
#No it is not easy at all to run any duct top the filter. Almost no chance
#for the TT cars.
#


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