team3s           Saturday, December 23 2000           Volume 01 : Number 358




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Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 23:10:29 -0800
From: vect0r0 <vect0r0@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Team3S: FOR SALE: 92 *Heavily Modified* Stealth RT/TT

Im posting my baby for sale.  I again lost my liscense and can no longer
afford to keep her...  For FULL list of modifications, pictures, etc.
Please visit:

www.napavalleyberyyfarm.com

PSS:  The 92mm Piston Upgrade is actually a 93mm.

$63,000 invested.

Serious inquiries only please.

John


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Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 04:14:24 -0500
From: "Michael Bulaon" <profilevr4@3000gtvr4.net>
Subject: Team3S: Help! Car Smokes and burns oil after idling..... bad valve guides? 

My car.......95 3000GT VR-4 w/ 980000 miles.

My problem is this........
After idiling my car for several minutes, hitting the gas, whether it's just
blipping the gas pedal or actually driving, my car will emit a huge white
cloud of smoke from the exhaust, then go away after several minutes of
driving. Note this only happens if I let the car idle for sometime. I could
drive the car for hours and not see a hint of smoke while driving. But once
I stop and let it idle for awhile, it'll emit smoke from the exhaust upon
hitting the gas pedal after it's idled for some time.

Now most of the time the smoke seems white, however I've heard that the
problem is most likely worn valve guides, and that the smoke is from burning
oil.

My question is if it is oil, wouldn't the smoke be blue? However it does
smell of oil.

Also what are the chances that it may be the turbo that is causing the smoke
and not the valve guides?

Lastly, if it is the valve guides, how much can I expect to have these
repaired, and can I trust my local Mitsu dealership to handle the job.

Thanks in advance to all replies.

Michael Bulaon




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Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 13:39:08 -0800
From: "noble" <nketo@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Team3S: Re: Nippondenso injectors

Seasons greetings to all members!

One question: Does anyone know if the Nippondenso 720's used for our cars is
the
                      EXACT same ones used in the DSM's?
                      If so, there seems to be a lot of them for sale that I
can get cheaper,
                      but I wanted to make sure first.

Thanks in advance,
Noble




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Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 13:27:44 -0500
From: "brandon thomas" <a3kgtlvr@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Help! Car Smokes and burns oil after idling..... bad valve guides?

To my knowledge white smoke is associated with water or antifreeze. Usually
if a head gasket goes bad or if you cracked one of your heads you get white
smoke. I am not 100% sure if it would do it all the time or not. Just
thought I would put in my 2 cents

Brandon Thomas
1992 VR4
Blown Motor

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Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 13:08:29 -0600
From: "cody" <overclck@flash.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Help! Car Smokes and burns oil after idling..... bad valve guides?

If your car is emitting the bluish smoke other than pure white, and it is
only after idling this happends, then it could also easily be a bad seal on
a turbo (if it is a turbo).  My Eclipse did this, but only under vacuum
conditions at first, and eventually it started doing it after the car had
idled for awhile...

- -Cody

#-----Original Message-----
#From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
#[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of brandon thomas
#Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 12:28 PM
#To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
#Subject: Re: Team3S: Help! Car Smokes and burns oil after idling.....
#bad valve guides?
#
#
#To my knowledge white smoke is associated with water or
#antifreeze. Usually
#if a head gasket goes bad or if you cracked one of your heads you
#get white
#smoke. I am not 100% sure if it would do it all the time or not. Just
#thought I would put in my 2 cents
#
#Brandon Thomas
#1992 VR4
#Blown Motor
#
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#Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 17:39:28 -0700
From: Desert Fox <bigfoot@simmgene.com>
Subject: Team3S: Power steering fluid

Is there a recommended power steering fluid?

I'm running 0W-30 AMSoil synthetic in the engine. I'm gonna change all the
transmission/transaxle fluids to synthetic ASAP.

On the door panel of this VR-4, it says that the front tires were originally
245/45 17" and the rear were 245/45 18"... Is this right? The car has 18"
wheels all the way around now that all look to be factory...

I had to stop and replace tires part way home. The tires that were
originally on the rear were 265/35ZR18 BF Goodrich. The front were
245/40ZR18. Was this setup OK?

My snow tires haven't shown up yet. Still waiting, cleaning, making the list
of things to attend to on the new ride...

Merry Christmas everybody!

- --
Paul/.
95 black VR-4
98 VFR800F, TBR aluminum hi exit
formerly reasonable and prudent


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Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 18:52:14 -0600
From: "cody" <overclck@flash.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Power steering fluid

I don't think power steering fluid is a real big deal in our cars, but just
to be on the safe side, I ordered some Redline Power Steering Fluid for my
car.

Are you sure those sizes weren't just two different options???

VR-4's have always come with 245/45-17 or 245/40-18 from the factory,
depending on if you got the upgrade for the 18's or not.

265/35-18 is a popular upgrade size from the 245/40-18 that comes on the
car, but if your car is AWD, or even FWD, for that matter - you should keep
all the tire sizes the same - all the way around.  If anything, a little
more width in the front would be better than in the rear.  (Our cars tend to
understeer, not oversteer from the factory)

Also, on an AWD car, even slight differences in tire size may have adverse
affects on the center differential and vicious coupling.

- -Cody

Merry Christmas and  Happy New Year to everyone!
(or where I live, it seems to be almost more popular: Feliz Navidad y
Prospero Ano Nuevo)

#Is there a recommended power steering fluid?
#
#I'm running 0W-30 AMSoil synthetic in the engine. I'm gonna change all the
#transmission/transaxle fluids to synthetic ASAP.
#
#On the door panel of this VR-4, it says that the front tires were
#originally
#245/45 17" and the rear were 245/45 18"... Is this right? The car has 18"
#wheels all the way around now that all look to be factory...
#
#I had to stop and replace tires part way home. The tires that were
#originally on the rear were 265/35ZR18 BF Goodrich. The front were
#245/40ZR18. Was this setup OK?
#
#My snow tires haven't shown up yet. Still waiting, cleaning,
#making the list
#of things to attend to on the new ride...
#
#Merry Christmas everybody!
#


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Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2000 16:00:45 -0600
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Power steering fluid

> I'm running 0W-30 AMSoil synthetic in the engine. I'm
> gonna change all the transmission/transaxle fluids to
> synthetic ASAP.

0W-30 is pretty light for a turbo car.  You might want to consider moving up
to a 10W-30 full synthetic, that should give a little more bearing
protection.

> On the door panel of this VR-4, it says that the front
> tires were originally 245/45 17" and the rear were
> 245/45 18"... Is this right? The car has 18" wheels
> all the way around now that all look to be factory...

I think the door panel is confusing.  They all came with either size all the
way around.  There weren't any combinations sold.  The 18's were still a
factory option in '95, if I remember correctly.

> I had to stop and replace tires part way home. The
> tires that were originally on the rear were
> 265/35ZR18 BF Goodrich. The front were 245/40ZR18.
> Was this setup OK?

My opinion is that's not OK.  To run staggered sizes like that and still
match the outer diameters of the tires you would need to run 280/35-18 on
one end and 245/40-18 on the other end.  265/35-18 is 7% out of spec.
Whether that's enough to cause center differential damage or not, I don't
know for sure.  I do know that Mitsubishi has recommended to use the exact
same tires all the way around whenever possible to avoid minor sizing
inconsistencies, so Mitsubishi seems to think it is an issue even just
between brands/types of tires not even necessarily sized differently.

Maybe it is okay, but do you want to bet a $6,000 tranny on it?  Guess it
depends on how lucky you feel.  ;-)

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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