team3s
Friday, December 1
2000 Volume 01
: Number
337
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Date:
Thu, 30 Nov 2000 18:53:09 -0600
From: "Brad Bedell" <
bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Front end advice
Why not modify the Active aero
assembly? It was suppose to do what you're
trying to improve upon
anyhow.
Brad
Check out my home page:
http://home.austin.rr.com/overboost/E-Mail:
bbedell@austin.rr.com ICQ#
3612682
- -----Original Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st[
mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of Merritt
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 2:40 PM
To: Michael D.
Crose;
team3s@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
Re: Team3S: Front end advice
>steel. I have seen some kits
available that have a spoiler that is bolted
>with hinges at the rear of
the spoiler and has a toggle bolt that allows
the
>adjustment of the
angle of attack the spoiler makes with the ground.
>
Wow! That means I
could tuck it up tight around town and let it down on the
track. What a great
idea! Thanks. I had been thinking of something along
those lines, but hadn't
quite noodled it out yet.
Rich
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 20:31:16
-0500
From: Michael Reid <
mreidis@home.com>
Subject: Team3S: Bad
Leakdown/Compression Test
155 psi - Good Compression Test at Jim's HiTech
Auto
Thanks all for your help regarding my so called "Bad
Leakdown/Compression
Test".
There is always some smidgen of doubt, but
it appears that the first shop
(Robson Racing in Ottawa) may have been trying
to sell me an unneeded
engine rebuild.
I watched them at the
second (and less expensive) shop (Jim's Hi Tech Auto
in Stittsville)
and
confirmed that all three front cylinders gave about 75 PSI on first
stroke,
150 on 2nd,
and 155 (reported proper value) on the 3rd.
At that point
we didn't even bother doing leakdown tests or bothering with
the 3 rear
cyls.
Total cost: 0.7 hr * $66 + 15% taxes = $53.13 Canadian ($35 US) vs.
$345
($224) US at the
"high end" shop for 4 "alleged" hours.
I
wonder if they even pulled a sparkplug at the first shop ? Would they
be
provably incompetent
if they didn't replace the intake manifold gasket
when pulling the rear
plugs ? I'm going to
demand my money back for their
faulty diagnosis.
The "alleged" high end shop also gave me a line about a
puff of smoke at
start-up and that
the plugs were "fouled". The second
shop tells me the plugs are fine and
they also
appear to have been changed
by the first owner before 40,000 miles. (Do
original plugs
always have
paint on them ?)
When I called to ask if the tests were cold or warm,
whether they used a
mechanical gauge
or a scope, and whether or not they
tried a wet test, they said "warm,
mechanical and dry only"
and then tried
to reassure me that they know what they're doing and there
was major engine
damage.
They didn't think any cheap fixes would help.
Does anyone
think that an air filter cleaning, an oil change and a Bilstein
R-2000 engine
flush
(
http://www.motorlife.com/ )
could cause this difference in compression
tests ? Note that there
was no
noticeable difference in WOT acceleration before and after the above
on my
G-Tech perf meter.
This engine flusher is like the motorvac (
http://www.motorvac.com/ )
device and
runs a cleaning
solution with engine running through the fuel rails. It is
supposed to
clean injectors and carbon
from cylinders and intake valves. I
think something like this is
recommended in a TSB for the
Stealth/3KGT to
avoid piston-valve (and carbon?) contact when they cyls get
carboned
up.
So I figure either:
(a) the first shop is crooked, and/or
(b)
the first shop has at least one incompetent technicion, and/or
(c) the first
shop has bad equipment (and is thus incompetent), and/or
(d) air filter, oil
and filter, and/or engine flush can fix bad compression
tests, and/or
(e)
something very weird and unusual happened (benefit of a 0.1%
doubt).
Anyway, I'm extremely happy the engine is in good shape and
I'm about to
put a few grand
into the maintenance I need to keep this car
for at least 2-3 more years,
perhaps forever... :)
Mike.
94
Stealth RT/TT (don't know what you got till it's gone... :)
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Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2000 19:42:34
-0600
From: "Dale T. Kroetz" <
kroetz@mvn.net>
Subject: Team3S: Alpine
Head Unit
Hello everyone,
I have a slightly used
Alpine MDA-W750 for sale. If you don't know
what this is, it's Alpines top of
the line MD/CD/AM/FM/DHE head unit. It
is a double din and fits our cars
perfectly. I gave over $1000 for it
and I think retail is about $1200. I
would take $600 for the complete
unit, remote and all acc.
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 00:33:54
-0800
From: "Jim" <
devlin@jobe.net>
Subject: Team3S: proper
tranny fluid
Hello all,
Would someone please tell me what type of
transmission fluid to use in my
3000Gt automatic, other then the Mitsu
brand.
As always, thank you for your help. Im learning alot from you
all.
Jim, Lebanon,Missouri
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 01:53:32
-0500
From: "anscray" <
anscray@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: clutch adjustment help?
I just had the exact same problem
with my SL a couple of months ago.. If
and when you have to start
pulling the clutch out with your foot in order to
shift, Its definately a
cylinder..If in fact it is the Master Cylinder; when
you have it fixed, be
sure to check the engagement point of the clutch
again..It might vary a
little at first but should settle in within a
few
days..
Scott
1994 VR4
K&N Filtercharger
1994
SL
Borla Cat-Back
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 00:52:31
-0600
From: "cody" <
overclck@flash.net>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: proper tranny fluid
Go to
www.redlineoil.comThey have what
you need.
- -Cody
- -----Original Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st[
mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 2:34 AM
To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
Team3S: proper tranny fluid
Hello all,
Would someone please
tell me what type of transmission fluid to use in my
3000Gt automatic, other
then the Mitsu brand.
As always, thank you for your help. Im learning
alot from you all.
Jim, Lebanon,Missouri
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 01:53:19
-0600
From: "Vineet Singh \(3S\)" <
stealthtt@ecanfix.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Front end advice
I understood the cowl induction thing to be
correct... that air would
try to go INTO your engine compartment. To prove it
to myself on my
car, I removed the weatherstrip on the rear of the hood, on
along the
firewall. I stuck string/tape, about 6" in length, in various
sections
on the hood and had my friend video tape the areas in question
with
his hand and camera out the window. The strings around the end
of
hood, tried to go INTO and UNDER the hood if they could fold
over
enough... otherwise they just madly moved everywhere just in front
of
that area.
A little further down the hood, towards the middle, most
of the string
just flew backwards, and pretty much parallel with the hood. I
had
taken the 1g 3/S "strut" covers off, and string would NOT try to
go
into there, it mostly just acted as if there was still a cover
there,
sometimes moving in, sometimes out. THIS would be a good area to
get
air OUT of the engine. Up near the very front, I can't really
tell,
but they just move more rapidly, and try to disappear into my
popup
headlight cracks.
Furthermore... right now, I have like a
million little orange leaves
in that "cowl" area, right infront of the ducts
already there for
climate control. If you think air would want to get OUT of
the engine
from here, these leaves wouldn't be messing up my engine
compartment
now would they? :)
Oh, also... if you go fast enough, your
wipers try to disappear into
your cowl as well :) Same with a high velocity
car drier after a
touchless car wash.
Vineet Singh
http://at.dsm.org - "Never Lift To Shift!"
http://chi.dsm.org - "ChicagoDSM - Go Fast With
Class!"
http://manualcd.dsm.org - DSM
& 3/S Service manuals on CDROM
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Date: Thu, 30
Nov 2000 10:01:58 -0600
From: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Front end advice
>The pressure is much greater on the
outside of the hood than under
the hood
>especially at racing speeds
because the flow is relatively smooth
over the
>hood and then is forced
to change direction to flow over the
windshield, so
>the air stacks up
right at the base of the windshield. Under the
hood the
>air
entering has many obstructions getting to the back of the engine
bay
so
>most air flows through the radiator and under the
engine.
>
Is this based on anything you read, such as wind tunnel
tests, design
specs, or whatever? Or just a good guess? The cutting of my
hood
depends on
it.
Rich
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Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 06:16:59
-0600
From: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Front end advice
At 06:53 PM 11/30/00 -0600, Brad Bedell
wrote:
>Why not modify the Active aero assembly? It was
suppose to do what you're
>trying to improve upon anyhow.
No, what
I am trying to do is improve air flow to the brakes and to the
radiator. I'll
take a spoiler as part of the package. If I can't figure a
way to get better
air flow to the radiator from underneath, then I'll leave
the air dam
alone.
Rich
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Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 06:47:42
-0600
From: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Front end advice
Thanks, Vineet.
Looks like cutting the
hood is needed.
Rich
At 01:53 AM 12/1/00 -0600, Vineet Singh \(3S\)
wrote:
>I understood the cowl induction thing to be correct... that air
would
>try to go INTO your engine compartment. To prove it to myself on
my
>car, I removed the weatherstrip on the rear of the hood,
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 07:17:40
-0700
From: "Ken Wheeler" <
kenwheeler@phoenixdsl.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: clutch adjustment help?
I've just dumped ANOTHER clutch into
my '92 RT/TT. That's what I get for
not adjusting my clutch pedal after
the first install. Brian at GT Pro was
a great help and had a custom
clutch plate made for me. One side is a
Carbon Carbon, Kevlar, and
another secret ingredient, and the other side is
Raybestos Blue Plate
Organic. So far so good, but that clutch plate was a
very tight fit on
the tranny spline.
My question is, how far off of the floor do I want the
clutch pedal
engaging?
Thanks for the input,
Ken Wheeler
'92
RT/TT
'67 Mustang
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From: "anscray"
<
anscray@mediaone.net>
To:
"Ken Middaugh" <
Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>; <
kalla@tripoint.org>
Cc: <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Thursday, November 30, 2000 11:53 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: clutch adjustment
help?
> I just had the exact same problem with my SL a
couple of months ago..
If
> and when you have to start pulling the
clutch out with your foot in order
to
> shift, Its definately a
cylinder..If in fact it is the Master Cylinder;
when
> you have it
fixed, be sure to check the engagement point of the clutch
> again..It
might vary a little at first but should settle in within a few
>
days..
>
>
> Scott
> 1994 VR4
> K&N
Filtercharger
> 1994 SL
> Borla
Cat-Back
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 08:47:36
-0600
From: "Curt Gendron" <
curt_gendron@hotmail.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: proper tranny fluid
Actually, I've talked to several AT DSM
owners, and almost all of them
recommend using the Mitsubishi Triple Diamond
ATF fluid. I did this on my
girlfriend's base 3000GT and it seems to
shift a little quicker. Just stick
with the stock Mitsu fluid on the
autos.
later,
Curt
CarParts at:
http://www.mn3s.org/car-parts.html>From:
"cody" <
overclck@flash.net>
>To: "Jim"
<
devlin@jobe.net>
>CC: "Team3S"
<
team3s@mail.stealth-3000gt.st>
>Subject:
RE: Team3S: proper tranny fluid
>Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 00:52:31
-0600
>
>Go to
www.redlineoil.com>
>They have
what you need.
>
>-Cody
>
>-----Original
Message-----
>From:
owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>[
mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of Jim
>Sent: Friday, December 01, 2000 2:34 AM
>To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>Subject:
Team3S: proper tranny fluid
>
>
>Hello
all,
>
>Would someone please tell me what type of transmission fluid
to use in my
>3000Gt automatic, other then the Mitsu
brand.
>
>As always, thank you for your help. Im learning alot from
you all.
>
>Jim,
Lebanon,Missouri
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Date: Fri, 1 Dec 2000 07:26:08
-0800
From: "Mark Domke" <
mark@lobelfinancial.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Rear Stabilizer
Hey, I got my hands on a big 97 Kelley Bluebook
that has all the options
between the different models. "Rear Stabilizer" was
listed as an SL and
higher included option in 97 models, meaning there wasn't
a rear stabilizer
on the base. Assuming 96(mine) and 97 were the same here,
that would mean I
don't have one and could get one as an upgrade right? I
haven't stuck my
head under there to see. Is "stabilizer" another word for
"anti-sway bar"?
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Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2000 18:02:32
-0600
From: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Getrag bought by Dana
This may be a break for us.
Dana Corp
has purchased Getrag. See the press release below.
We may have much more
luck pressuring Dana to make transmission parts
available than we do dealing
with a faraway stuck-up German company.
We can start calling/e-mailing
CEO Joe Magliochetti and bugging the
beegeezus out of him right away, or we
can launch a carefully orchestrated
campaign.
I suggest we start by
asking somebody like Jack T or anyone else who has
delved deeply into the
synchro parts problem to lay out the facts for us,
and then -- and only then
-- we should bombard Joe with phone calls,
e-mails and letters, pleading for
him to make our parts available. Any spin
wizards out there have any other
suggestions on how to do this? Let's not
go off the deep end until we get our
weapons lined up, and then let's hit
them with an avalanche. This issue
affects EVERYONE on these 3S lists, so
we should do it right.
The
floor is now open for discussion on how to proceed.
Rich/old
poop
Dana Completes Agreement to Acquire Interest in European
Manufacturer
Toledo, OH -- Nov 09, 2000 -- Dana Corporation (NYSE: DCN) today
announced
that it has completed the purchase of an interest in GETRAG
Getriebe- und
Zahnradfabrik Hermann Hagenmeyer GmbH & Cie, a manufacturer
of
transmissions, transaxles, axles, and other automotive
components.
Headquartered in Ludwigsburg, Germany, the company had sales of
$750
million in 1999. Financial terms of the agreement were not disclosed.
"This relationship will support our global growth strategy for
the
passenger car market, and enhance our focus on advanced
automotive
technologies," said Dana Chairman and CEO Joe Magliochetti.
"GETRAG has a
highly skilled workforce and a solid reputation for precision
engineering,
quality, and innovation. We have great respect for this fine
organization
and we are excited about expanding Dana's relationship with
GETRAG."
Dana acquired a 30-percent stake in GETRAG Cie, the parent
company of the
GETRAG group of companies, and a 49-percent stake in GETRAG's
North
American operations. Bill Carroll, president of Dana's Automotive
Systems
Group, will be on the Advisory Board of GETRAG GmbH & Cie.
"This strategic partnership strengthens Dana's automotive
offerings
globally, and particularly enhances our opportunities in the
European
passenger car market," Mr. Carroll said.
"Strategically,
this transaction is very similar to our recent
collaboration with GKN to
produce advanced driveline technologies. GETRAG's
transaxle and gear
manufacturing technologies are highly complementary to
our expertise and will
enable us to further develop our under-the-vehicle
technology, products, and
systems," he added.
Dana and GETRAG will establish a joint technology
council to explore ways
to further advance automotive applications for design
and technology. The
two companies also will create a joint marketing council
to bring the
resulting new products and innovations to market rapidly.
In addition to strategic alliances with GETRAG and GKN, Dana also
recently
announced an alliance with Motorola, Inc., aimed at enhancing
product
performance and reliability. Electronics leader Motorola will provide
Dana
with access to advanced electronics technology. In return, Dana
will
incorporate this technology within its advanced chassis, drivetrain,
and
engine systems and will leverage its expertise in infrastructure to
take
these new products to market.
GETRAG is a major supplier to the
European automotive industry and has an
excellent reputation for the quality
of its products and technologies. The
company employs some 5,000 people in 11
manufacturing facilities worldwide.
Its major customers include Audi, BMW,
DaimlerChrysler, Ford, GM/Opel,
Jaguar, Porsche, and Volkswagen.
Dana
Corporation is one of the world's largest independent suppliers to
vehicle
manufacturers and their related aftermarkets. Founded in 1904 and
based in
Toledo, Ohio, the company operates some 320 major facilities in 32
countries
and employs more than 80,000 people. The company reported sales
of $13.2
billion in 1999. Dana's Internet address is
www.dana.com .
Large media
outlets:
Gary Corrigan, V.P. - Corporate Communications
(419)
535-4813
Gary.Corrigan@Dana.comJeff
Cole, Manager, Marketing Communications
(419) 535-4704
Jeff.Cole@Dana.comSmall to midsize
media outlets:
Denise LaFleur, Communications Specialist
Denise.LaFleur@Dana.com(419)
535-4500
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Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2000 03:01:11
+0100
From: Syncom <
syncom@mail.digitel2002.hu>
Subject:
Team3S: Passenger airbag wanted
Hi folks,
I'm looking for a 3000GT
passenger airbag module (the cover on mine is
damaged, but I can't order it
separately). If anyone should have one
for sale please contact me
privately.
Thank you and best wishes,
Zsolt Kovacs
95 3000GT
SL
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