team3s Wednesday,
November 22 2000 Volume 01
: Number
330
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Date:
Tue, 21 Nov 2000 17:29:59 -0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Aluminum racing driveshaft
Suppose I could ask about a 2pc
one, and a hoop only helps you if the
shaft breaks where it would be
beneficial for the hoop to even -be- there.
SO..being that vibration
within a specific narrow RPM band is
un-preventable.._shrug_..who
knows.
Ive still seen dozens of snapped CF shafts because people never
paid to
have them installed correctly..and wouldnt want to offer any of those
for
sale (myself) to the list.
On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, Roger Gerl (RTEC)
wrote:
> Geoff, for safety I'd install a loop to prevent any serious
damage. Also,
> there was no solution yet that got rid of the damn
vibrations that is
> produced by the design (single one). The carbon
driveshaft also had this
> problem and the one or two who have them never
got rid of the vibs. With an
> aluminum ds the vib will become worser over
the time compared to the carbon
> one and you need rebalancing very
often.
>
> Hope the product is ok and you will not make the same
experiences as all the
> others did.
>
> But what about a
two-piece design ?
>
> Roger
> 93'3000GT TT
>
www.rtec.ch>
>
>
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: "Geoff Mohler" <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
>
An: <
gt4@egroups.com>
>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. November 2000 04:45
> Betreff: Team3S: Aluminum
racing driveshaft
>
>
> > I will be having my Alum alloy
shaft built for my car within the next 2
> > weeks.
>
>
>
> *** Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
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>
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Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 19:27:23
-0600
From: "Brad Bedell" <
bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Brembo rotors (attach is just 21K)
The rotors I've seen from
Stillen are made by "Brady"
And isn't the "Brembo" cast into the back of
the caliper?
Brad
Check out my home page:
http://home.austin.rr.com/overboost/E-Mail:
bbedell@austin.rr.com ICQ#
3612682
- -----Original Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st[
mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of Merritt
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 6:51 PM
To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
Team3S: Brembo rotors (attach is just 21K)
At 04:03 AM 11/21/00 -0800,
Richard wrote:
>I believe dynamic racing also sells the same rotors
actually cheaper
>then Stillen who they get them from.
Before you
guys get your toga in a knot over some cheap Brembos, permit me
to show you
what happens to a Stillen rotor when used on one of our cars
(with due credit
to Oskar, who broke the sucker in the first place). I
broke two Powerslot
rotors exactly the same way: the hat and the rotor
separate at the
weld.
It is my humble opinion that Stillen and Powerslot and other
suppliers buy
their rotors from the same place, and it AIN'T BREMBO. I
have
Porsche/Brembo calipers on my car, and there is no doubt that they
came
from Brembo, because they are stamped with BREMBO in very big letters
on
the back. If any of you still think that Stillen buys blanks from
Brembo,
just ask Stillen if Brembo is imprinted on the rotors anywhere. If
not,
buyer beware.
Rich/old poop
*** Info:
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Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 21:33:48
-0000
From: "Sam Shelat" <
sshelat@erols.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Brembo rotors (attach is just 21K)
I have the same ones on my
street car and was disappointed when along with
the rotors came a disclaimer
that they were for street use only. Needless
to say, I warped them
after a couple of spirited high speed highway exit
ramp runs.
Sam
-
-----Original Message-----
From: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Date:
Wednesday, November 22, 2000 12:56 AM
Subject: Team3S: Brembo rotors (attach
is just 21K)
>At 04:03 AM 11/21/00 -0800, Richard
wrote:
>>I believe dynamic racing also sells the same rotors actually
cheaper
>>then Stillen who they get them from.
>
>Before
you guys get your toga in a knot over some cheap Brembos, permit me
>to
show you what happens to a Stillen rotor when used on one of our
cars
>(with due credit to Oskar, who broke the sucker in the first place).
I
>broke two Powerslot rotors exactly the same way: the hat and the
rotor
>separate at the weld.
>
>It is my humble opinion that
Stillen and Powerslot and other suppliers buy
>their rotors from the same
place, and it AIN'T BREMBO. I have
>Porsche/Brembo calipers on my
car, and there is no doubt that they came
>from Brembo, because they are
stamped with BREMBO in very big letters on
>the back. If any of you still
think that Stillen buys blanks from Brembo,
>just ask Stillen if Brembo is
imprinted on the rotors anywhere. If not,
>buyer
beware.
>
>Rich/old poop
>
*** Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
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Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 18:37:54
-0700
From: "Barry E. King" <
beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Brembo rotors..who?
Baer Racing claims to be able to supply
anything. I have seen their
selection of calipers from mild through
Wilde to downright exotic. I do not
know what they stock at any given
time but they seem to be able to do just
about anything, pocketbook
permitting.
The rotors I saw were AP, Brembo and another brand the name
of which escapes
me. All the systems I was looking at would require
custom hats and mounting
hardware and cost helluva a lot. No doubt it
is great stuff.
Here's a link:
http://www.baer.com/After much research
I believe the right solution for our cars in a road
racing scenario to be the
Porsche branded rotors (better than Brembos, which
can crack under duress)
and Porsche (Brembo, but Porsche spec) calipers.
Reasonably priced and likely
to perform as well as anything costing up to
three times more.
These
guys know brakes too:
http://www.powerhaus.com/ and can
supply
Porsche parts. They race lots. Again, hats will be custom
one-offs unless
you can swindle them out of the other "Big Red"
manufacturer. Or, consider
Brad B's setup which is basically the same
thing.
Barry
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
[
mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of Geoff Mohler
> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 10:35 AM
>
To: Team3s
> Subject: Team3S: Brembo rotors..who?
>
>
>
Who can I call that has a set of honest to GOD Brembo rotors.
>
>
Going with the advice of my Chief Mechanic (yes, we actually have one)
he
> is demanding I get brembo with cross-drill and slotting. Then
he will
> increase the cross drill hole diameter in his own
shop.
>
> Weve also ditched the Mueller redhead clutch, and on
advice will be using
> a Tilton clutch..about 1/2 the weight of even the
redhead and better
> plates.
>
>
> So guess what..I have
Jack's Chro-Moly flywheel for sale I just bought.
>
>
>
*** Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
***
>
*** Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
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Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 17:41:30
-0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Brembo rotors..who?
I called stillen, they only have 300Z
brembos.
On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, Richard wrote:
> I believe
dynamic racing also sells the same rotors actually cheaper
> then Stillen
who they get them from. They are cheaper retail (the
> middlemen) then
Stillen. The Stillen rotors that are stock replacements
> are supposedly
Brembro which should be the same as the one's MVP sells.
> I remember
getting this from Dusty? I think at MVP.
>
> Rich
>
>
Ken Middaugh wrote:
> >
> > > Who can I call that has a
set of honest to GOD Brembo rotors.
> > >
> > > Going
with the advice of my Chief Mechanic (yes, we actually have one) he
> >
> is demanding I get brembo with cross-drill and slotting. Then he
will
> > > increase the cross drill hole diameter in his own
shop.
> >
> > Rich posted awhile back that
http://www.mvpmotorsports.com sells
Brembo rotors
> > for our cars, however they offer cross drilled OR
slotted, not both.
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
Ken
> >
> > --
> > If you lived in your car, you'd
be home by now.
> >
> > Ken
Middaugh (858)
455-4510
> > General Atomics - Fusion Group, San Diego, CA
> >
> > *** Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
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>
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Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 17:49:25
-0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Aluminum racing driveshaft
I dont care what they say..I was a
wrench monkey for a speed shop in
Houston for a while..and installed
many..and threw away the remains of
many too.
On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, Sam
Shelat wrote:
> ACPT makes a two piece CF one for the VR-4 for $1047+
shipping. They told
> me vibration would not be a problem in our RPM
band and can withstand much
> more shock then the stock piece. I am
going to e-mail them about what Geoff
> had mentioned about road debris or
daily use.
>
> Sam
>
> -----Original
Message-----
> From: Roger Gerl (RTEC) <
roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
> To:
Team3S List <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
Date: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 7:23 PM
> Subject: Re: Team3S: Aluminum
racing driveshaft
>
>
> >Geoff, for safety I'd install a
loop to prevent any serious damage. Also,
> >there was no solution yet
that got rid of the damn vibrations that is
> >produced by the design
(single one). The carbon driveshaft also had this
> >problem and the
one or two who have them never got rid of the vibs. With an
> >aluminum
ds the vib will become worser over the time compared to the carbon
>
>one and you need rebalancing very often.
> >
> >Hope the
product is ok and you will not make the same experiences as all
>
the
> >others did.
> >
> >But what about a two-piece
design ?
> >
> >Roger
> >93'3000GT TT
> >
www.rtec.ch> >
> >
>
>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> >Von: "Geoff Mohler" <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
>
>An: <
gt4@egroups.com>
>
>Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. November 2000 04:45
> >Betreff: Team3S:
Aluminum racing driveshaft
> >
> >
> >> I will be
having my Alum alloy shaft built for my car within the next 2
> >>
weeks.
> >
> >
> >
> >*** Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
***
>
>
> *** Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
***
>
*** Info:
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Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 17:50:42
-0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Brembo rotors..who?
Ya..they'll supply anything if I send em
a corner suspension assembly from
my car to make stuff from.
They have
nothing for us.
On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, Barry E. King wrote:
>
Baer Racing claims to be able to supply anything. I have seen
their
> selection of calipers from mild through Wilde to downright
exotic. I do not
> know what they stock at any given time but they
seem to be able to do just
> about anything, pocketbook
permitting.
>
> The rotors I saw were AP, Brembo and another brand
the name of which escapes
> me. All the systems I was looking at
would require custom hats and mounting
> hardware and cost helluva a
lot. No doubt it is great stuff.
>
> Here's a link:
http://www.baer.com/>
> After much
research I believe the right solution for our cars in a road
> racing
scenario to be the Porsche branded rotors (better than Brembos, which
>
can crack under duress) and Porsche (Brembo, but Porsche spec) calipers.
>
Reasonably priced and likely to perform as well as anything costing up
to
> three times more.
>
> These guys know brakes too:
http://www.powerhaus.com/ and can
supply
> Porsche parts. They race lots. Again, hats will be
custom one-offs unless
> you can swindle them out of the other "Big Red"
manufacturer. Or, consider
> Brad B's setup which is basically the
same thing.
>
>
> Barry
>
> > -----Original
Message-----
> > From:
owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
> [
mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of Geoff Mohler
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 10:35
AM
> > To: Team3s
> > Subject: Team3S: Brembo
rotors..who?
> >
> >
> > Who can I call that has a
set of honest to GOD Brembo rotors.
> >
> > Going with the
advice of my Chief Mechanic (yes, we actually have one) he
> > is
demanding I get brembo with cross-drill and slotting. Then he will
>
> increase the cross drill hole diameter in his own shop.
>
>
> > Weve also ditched the Mueller redhead clutch, and on advice
will be using
> > a Tilton clutch..about 1/2 the weight of even the
redhead and better
> > plates.
> >
> >
> >
So guess what..I have Jack's Chro-Moly flywheel for sale I just bought.
>
>
> >
> > *** Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
***
> >
>
>
> *** Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
***
>
*** Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
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Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 18:59:50
-0700
From: "Barry E. King" <
beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Brembo rotors..who?
They'll make it though which is the point. They
are both local to me
(Phoenix, AZ) but would need the car for a week or
so.
It is going to be very difficult to find an off-the-shelf solution
except
for Brad's Kit and the other Big Red kit. If you do locate
another kit,
it'll be a good find. You might see if AP Lockheed has a
bolt-up kit, but I
doubt they do.
Barry
> -----Original
Message-----
>
> Ya..they'll supply anything if I send em a corner
suspension assembly from
> my car to make stuff from.
>
> They
have nothing for us.
*** Info:
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Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 18:14:52
-0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Brembo rotors..who?
The big-red kit is the ultimate for
99.999999% of 3s owners worldwide.
Its that nice.
When people talk
heat/warp/etc you have to take into consideration which
calipers you have as
well. We can get away with less rotor material here
to aid in cooling,
because we have a MUCH more efficient caliper.
On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, Barry
E. King wrote:
> They'll make it though which is the point. They
are both local to me
> (Phoenix, AZ) but would need the car for a week or
so.
>
> It is going to be very difficult to find an off-the-shelf
solution except
> for Brad's Kit and the other Big Red kit. If you
do locate another kit,
> it'll be a good find. You might see if AP
Lockheed has a bolt-up kit, but I
> doubt they do.
>
>
> Barry
>
> > -----Original Message-----
>
>
> > Ya..they'll supply anything if I send em a corner suspension
assembly from
> > my car to make stuff from.
> >
> >
They have nothing for us.
>
>
> *** Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
***
>
*** Info:
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Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 20:52:29
-0700
From: "Barry E. King" <
beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Brembo rotors..who?
After much research, I agree. We went through
this a year ago or so when
Brad came up with his kit. It is as good as
the "Big Red" kit IMO (uses the
same or similar parts) at a much reduced
price.
The road course TT Porsches around here (and these guys can use
anything
that money can buy) choose the Porsche 320ish mm ventilated disc
with the
cast in holes (same diameter as a '94+ VR4) and the bigger calipers
for more
swept area and better cooling. They report rare warpage and
manageable
fade.
Although I have drilled rotors on my VR4 (street
driven), the best I have
used during racing days past have been cast iron
slotted rotors. Drilled
rotors even with chamfers simply didn't last as
long due to eventual and
inevitable hairline fractures around the DRILLED
holes (cast won't do this).
Some people even have them break during an
event. Not cool. The slottted
rotors never exhibited such
behavior in the 10 years I used them.
Some otherwise experienced racers
will tell you to go with drilled rotors
and to just put up with the
inevitability that they will warp or shatter.
This is BS. Properly
slotted or even plain rotors with a proper caliper
will outperform the
drilled rotors in longevity and braking. I prefer
slotted in the rain,
plain or slotted under dry conditions with the possible
nod going to slotted
for frequent and heavy braking. The slots may allow
gases to escape a
bit quicker which can be important if there isn't much
cooldown time between
tight corners.
Barry
> -----Original
Message-----
> From:
owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
[
mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of Geoff Mohler
> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 7:15 PM
>
To: Barry E. King
> Cc: Team3s
> Subject: RE: Team3S: Brembo
rotors..who?
>
>
> The big-red kit is the ultimate for
99.999999% of 3s owners worldwide.
>
> Its that
nice.
>
> When people talk heat/warp/etc you have to take into
consideration which
> calipers you have as well. We can get away
with less rotor material here
> to aid in cooling, because we have a MUCH
more efficient caliper.
>
> On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, Barry E. King
wrote:
>
> > They'll make it though which is the point.
They are both local to me
> > (Phoenix, AZ) but would need the car for
a week or so.
> >
> > It is going to be very difficult to find
an off-the-shelf
> solution except
> > for Brad's Kit and the
other Big Red kit. If you do locate another kit,
> > it'll be a
good find. You might see if AP Lockheed has a
> bolt-up kit, but
I
> > doubt they do.
> >
> >
> >
Barry
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> >
>
> > > Ya..they'll supply anything if I send em a corner
suspension
> assembly from
> > > my car to make stuff
from.
> > >
> > > They have nothing for us.
>
>
> >
> > *** Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
***
> >
>
>
> *** Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
***
>
*** Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
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Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 22:02:30
-0600
From: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Brembo rotors..who?
>Although I have drilled rotors on my
VR4 (street driven), the best I have
>used during racing days past have
been cast iron slotted rotors. Drilled
>rotors even with chamfers
simply didn't last as long due to eventual and
>inevitable hairline
fractures around the DRILLED holes (cast won't do this).
>Some people even
have them break during an event. Not cool. The
slottted
>rotors never exhibited such behavior in the 10 years I used
them.
Yo, Barry: Is there any reason why we couldn't cut some slots in
our stock
rotors?.
I know better than to drill one, but is there any
reason why we couldn't
take a Porterfield cyrogenically treated stock rotor
to a machine shop and
have them cut five or six slots across the rotor face?
It would be just a
straight cut across, perhaps at a 45 deg angle.
Any thoughts out there on this?
What would be the best machine tool
to use?
Whaddaya suppose it would cost at a machine shop?
Rich/old
poop
*** Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
***
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Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 23:18:49
-0500
From: "Dan Mecier" <
dmecier@ka.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Brembo rotors..who?
Rich,
Porterfield will slot them for you as
well.
Dan Mecier
94 3000GT VR-4
- -----Original
Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st[
mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of Merritt
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 11:03 PM
To: Barry E.
King; Team3s
Subject: RE: Team3S: Brembo rotors..who?
>Although
I have drilled rotors on my VR4 (street driven), the best I have
>used
during racing days past have been cast iron slotted rotors.
Drilled
>rotors even with chamfers simply didn't last as long due to
eventual and
>inevitable hairline fractures around the DRILLED holes (cast
won't do
this).
>Some people even have them break during an
event. Not cool. The slottted
>rotors never exhibited such
behavior in the 10 years I used them.
Yo, Barry: Is there any reason why
we couldn't cut some slots in our stock
rotors?.
I know better than to
drill one, but is there any reason why we couldn't
take a Porterfield
cyrogenically treated stock rotor to a machine shop and
have them cut five or
six slots across the rotor face? It would be just a
straight cut across,
perhaps at a 45 deg angle.
Any thoughts out there on this?
What would
be the best machine tool to use?
Whaddaya suppose it would cost at a machine
shop?
Rich/old poop
*** Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
***
*** Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
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Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 21:35:25
-0700
From: "Barry E. King" <
beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Brembo rotors..who?
There are probably a number of shops who can do this
but I'd talk to someone
like Porterfield first.
It has to be a
precision deal for obvious balance reasons and less obvious
reduction of
harmonics which can shatter an otherwise good rotor.
The slots can't be
too deep and don't need to be. They were only a few mm
as I
recall. I settled in on two slots per side at around 45 degrees
off
perpendicular, obtuse leading edge, 180 degrees apart on each
side
non-overlapping. I hope that makes
sense.
Barry
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
[
mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of Merritt
> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 9:03 PM
> To:
Barry E. King; Team3s
> Subject: RE: Team3S: Brembo
rotors..who?
>
>
>
> >Although I have drilled rotors
on my VR4 (street driven), the best I have
> >used during racing days
past have been cast iron slotted rotors. Drilled
> >rotors even
with chamfers simply didn't last as long due to eventual and
>
>inevitable hairline fractures around the DRILLED holes (cast
> won't
do this).
> >Some people even have them break during an event.
Not cool.
> The slottted
> >rotors never exhibited such behavior
in the 10 years I used them.
>
> Yo, Barry: Is there any reason why
we couldn't cut some slots in our stock
> rotors?.
>
> I know
better than to drill one, but is there any reason why we couldn't
> take a
Porterfield cyrogenically treated stock rotor to a machine shop and
> have
them cut five or six slots across the rotor face? It would be just a
>
straight cut across, perhaps at a 45 deg angle.
>
> Any thoughts out
there on this?
> What would be the best machine tool to use?
>
Whaddaya suppose it would cost at a machine shop?
>
> Rich/old
poop
>
>
> *** Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
***
>
*** Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
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Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 22:27:13
-0600
From: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Brembo rotors..who?
>Porterfield will slot them for you as
well.
You sure? They say they will drill them, but there is nothing in
their
catalog about slotting. I just
looked.
Rich
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Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 22:03:20
-0700
From: "Barry E. King" <
beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Brembo rotors..who?
http://www.kvrperformance.com is in
Canada, but they will do cross border
work. This should not be
necessary though. Maybe they can recommend
someone.
They sell
Brembo, AP and their own line.
Barry
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[
mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of Merritt
> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 9:27 PM
> To:
Dan Mecier; Barry E. King; Team3s
> Subject: RE: Team3S: Brembo
rotors..who?
>
>
> >Porterfield will slot them for you as
well.
>
> You sure? They say they will drill them, but there is
nothing in their
> catalog about slotting. I just looked.
>
>
Rich
>
>
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Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 22:10:49
-0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Brembo rotors..who?
I also just WASTED a set of porterfield's
on thier R$-E pads too.
Goddamn pads were harder than the rotors, 800
miles is all I got.
Not again..Brembo from here out.
On Tue, 21
Nov 2000, Dan Mecier wrote:
> Rich,
>
> Porterfield will
slot them for you as well.
>
> Dan Mecier
> 94 3000GT
VR-4
>
> -----Original Message-----
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[
mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of Merritt
> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 11:03 PM
> To:
Barry E. King; Team3s
> Subject: RE: Team3S: Brembo rotors..who?
>
>
> >Although I have drilled rotors on my VR4 (street driven),
the best I have
> >used during racing days past have been cast iron
slotted rotors. Drilled
> >rotors even with chamfers simply
didn't last as long due to eventual and
> >inevitable hairline
fractures around the DRILLED holes (cast won't do
> this).
>
>Some people even have them break during an event. Not cool. The
slottted
> >rotors never exhibited such behavior in the 10 years I used
them.
>
> Yo, Barry: Is there any reason why we couldn't cut some
slots in our stock
> rotors?.
>
> I know better than to drill
one, but is there any reason why we couldn't
> take a Porterfield
cyrogenically treated stock rotor to a machine shop and
> have them cut
five or six slots across the rotor face? It would be just a
> straight cut
across, perhaps at a 45 deg angle.
>
> Any thoughts out there on
this?
> What would be the best machine tool to use?
> Whaddaya
suppose it would cost at a machine shop?
>
> Rich/old poop
>
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Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2000 18:29:47
-0600
From: "john adams" <
johnqadamsiii@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Transmission Problem
Greetings Jim,
You've
probably already checked the fluid level on the car, but
its worth my
mentioning. You should note the condition of it
also: red or pink=good, brown
with burnt smell=bad; metal in fluid=bad, or
milky colored
= water or
coolant contamination. It seems not all too uncommon that people
will
substitute the 7176 fluid with the more widely available dexron or
type
f,
which would also cause some problems. A fluid *flush* with filter
change
wouldnt harm anything just to be sure. I suppose you should also look
for
error codes
using a multimeter and perform a checklist of various
things in order to
troubleshoot
it more precisely. Hopefully it isnt
anything that will require pulling it
out and/or
rebuilding it. You should
always rule out the easy things first.
I actually just bought a stealth
es 3-4 weeks ago myself with a/t.
It was running fine and looked fine
until recently, when the fluid
started looking like the color of
pepto-bismal. I think there
was probably water seapage into the engine
compartment initially before i
got it
that caused the low-fluid-like
symptoms im experiencing, and not a coolant
leak into the tranny via cooler
lines, as there has never been any tracable
coolant loss. Perhaps the wrong
fluid was also used.
Has anyone else experienced this opaque pink color under
similar
circumstances?
What about having the wrong fluid used in your 4
speed automatic chrysler or
mits. trans?
Anyway, good luck with
it.
john
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From: Jim <
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To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Date:
Friday, November 17, 2000 6:04 PM
Subject: Team3S: Transmission
Problem
>Hi Guys, I have a problem with my transmission. I
have a
>95 GT-SL with automatic trans. The car has 83,000 miles
on
>it. When I try to pass a car on the highway, the car feels
>like
it slips into netrual, the tach revs, then when I let
>off the gas a bit,
it catches again. Also when Im driving
>around town, it feels like Im
driving a stick shift in
>second gear. The trans acts like its braking or
slowing me
>down. Its not making any noises, or clunking when I put
it
>into gear. Any help would be great. I just bought the car a
>few
weeks ago, so its still under guarantee.
>
>Thanks Jim,
Missouri
>
>
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:30:55
-0500
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <
DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Brembo rotors
And for all of the non-metal intuitive people
out there ... if two parts are
welded together then the resulting weld is
stronger than the two metal
pieces. That means that nothing should ever
break at a weld (as long as it
is made correctly) and if it does break at the
weld then Buyer Beware as
previously stated.
- --Flash!
dschilberg@freemarkets.com3Si
#577
1995 Black VR-4 w/ K&N FIPK, a Valentine One, and a custom spark
plug plate
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From: Merritt [
mailto:merritt@cedar-rapids.net]
Sent:
Tuesday, November 21, 2000 7:48 PM
To: Richard; Ken Middaugh
Cc: Geoff
Mohler; Team3s
Subject: Team3S: Brembo rotors (attach is just
21K)
<< File: brokenrotor.jpg >> At 04:03 AM 11/21/00
-0800, Richard wrote:
>I believe dynamic racing also sells the same rotors
actually cheaper
>then Stillen who they get them from.
Before you
guys get your toga in a knot over some cheap Brembos, permit me
to show you
what happens to a Stillen rotor when used on one of our cars
(with due credit
to Oskar, who broke the sucker in the first place). I
broke two Powerslot
rotors exactly the same way: the hat and the rotor
separate at the weld.
It is my humble opinion that Stillen and Powerslot and other suppliers
buy
their rotors from the same place, and it AIN'T BREMBO. I
have
Porsche/Brembo calipers on my car, and there is no doubt that they
came
from Brembo, because they are stamped with BREMBO in very big letters
on
the back. If any of you still think that Stillen buys blanks from
Brembo,
just ask Stillen if Brembo is imprinted on the rotors anywhere. If
not,
buyer beware.
Rich/old poop
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 09:30:36
EST
From:
OrangeFell@aol.comSubject: RE: Subject:
Team3S: OBD-II Diagnostic Computer availability-
Matt, and to the rest of
you who I've recieved emails from, both with
questions and offers of
donations, I apologize for my lack in replying the
last couple of days on
this- been quite busy.
The first question I'd like to answer is Matt's-
whether or not this is the
right peice of hardware for the job. Yes,
it is. The cartridge included has
been verified correct by calls to
two dealers. The MRP-N(8M) cartridge is
used for all models in the
Mitsubish lineup.
Secondly, as to those offering donations for
this in the benefit to the
group, please contact me at my email, and we'll
set up arrangements. Some
have mentioned Paypal and other methods,
this is quite acceptable. Any
donation is appreciated, and the
possible gains from this tool outweigh any
price we could pay for
it.
Finally, it was mentioned by another that it would be greatly
appreciated if
alternate bidding wasn't done against the group bid- IE, the
one I'm placing.
I don't think I need to underscore the value of this
tool to everyone with a
second generation car. It's my intention that
this be used as a tool for
all, so that we all gain some good from this
computer's purchase. If you
require this tool's assistance
immediately, tell me and I'll have the thing
shipped to you, but so long as
the programmers get it in due course. Since
that's the best way for
all to get the goods on this item, I would hope that
would be the group
sentiment as I know it is from those who have contacted me
to this
point.
Questions or comments, as always, fire away-
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 10:40:19
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you
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 16:26:37
+0000
From: Gordon Tyrrell <
gordon.tyrrell@openet-int.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Ralliart Tuner in Ireland
After all my pain and effort to find
parts and mechanics to fit them
I've finally found a Ralliart Dealer in
Ireland.
My prayers have been answered. For those that might not know
who
Ralliart are, they're the rally tuning arm of Mitsubishi
(Lancer
Evolution VI etc). They're also dealers for HKS so I'm getting
a
complete overhaul.
I also met one of the men from HKS in the US,
Michael (can't remember
his surname). Nice man with a lot of knowledge about
their product.
Just wanted to let anyone in Ireland that's on the list
know about this.
Contact me for more details.
Gordon
Dublin,
Ireland
Dark Metallic Grey '93 VR4 (Japanese import)
60k
miles
Current:
Uprated Fuel pump
HKS EVC IV
K&N
Filtercharger
Soon to be:
HKS Exhaust
CAT Bypass
15G's
Fuel
Controller
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 16:32:36
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From: Gordon Tyrrell <
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Subject:
Team3S: Intercooler Upgrade
Are there noticable gains to be had by
upgrading intercoolers?
I have boost up at .75-.8 bar and am pleaseed with
the performance
increase.
IF there are good gains (I mean seat of the
pants noticable by the way)
what make are teh best to get for a '93
VR4?
Thanks
Gordon
Dublin, Ireland
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 17:40:42
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From: Roger Gerl <
roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Ralliart Tuner in Ireland
>After all my pain and effort to
find parts and mechanics to fit them
>I've finally found a Ralliart Dealer
in Ireland.
Great... be prepared to pay ££££ :((
>My prayers
have been answered. For those that might not know who
>Ralliart are,
they're the rally tuning arm of Mitsubishi (Lancer
>Evolution VI etc).
They're also dealers for HKS so I'm getting a
>complete
overhaul.
An overhaul from HK$ ,what do you mean. ????
BTW,
getting the HK$ exhaust from the US directly is finally cheaper than
get
them in Europe, even with shipping and VAT ! I hope they will do good
work
because allover the continent RallyArt was not able to answer any
questions
on the 3000GT !
Good luck
Roger
93'3000GT tT
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 08:26:13
-0800
From: Bonnie McLean <
bonnie@benhamad.com>
Subject:
Team3S: re: Filled tank with diesel-94 3000GT dead-Help!
I filled up my
gas tank Sunday-car died within 500 ft.
Turns out the trucking company filled
the premium tank with diesel!
Car is now at the dealers - they are draining
the tank and flushing the
system.
But I am getting mixed stories on what
parts to be replaced, especially
regarding
the catalytic converter-the
dealer doesn't think so-they do not even have
it running yet - an estimate is
to be submitted to the trucking co. today-I
just don't want any problems down
the line. Help!
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 16:55:11
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From: Gordon Tyrrell <
gordon.tyrrell@openet-int.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Ralliart Tuner in Ireland
>
> Great... be prepared
to pay ££££ :((
>
Story of my life :)
>
> An
overhaul from HK$ ,what do you mean. ????
>
He's a RalliArt Agent
but runs an EVO VI and Corolla rally car and other
rally stuff so he's doing
a complete checkup on the car. He has all the
Japanese import equipment for
the GTO.
>
> BTW, getting the HK$ exhaust from the US
directly is finally cheaper than
> get them in Europe, even with shipping
and VAT ! I hope they will do good
> work because allover the continent
RallyArt was not able to answer any
> questions on the 3000GT
!
>
I'll see what happens when I get a price here and compare. The
$ is nearly on
a par with the Irish Pound right now so it's not easy to save
that way
anymore.
>
> Good luck
>
Thanks.
I'll let you know how I get on. It might be cheaper for you too. Who
knows
(miracles can happen you know ;)
Gordon
Dublin,
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 11:03:17
-0600
From: xwing <
xwing@execpc.com>
Subject: Team3S: Re:
Aluminum racing driveshaft
ACPT when I called over summer wanted me to
send them my
whole 3 piece driveshaft setup as they did not have the
dimensions
for EITHER the 91-93 or 94+ cars ready-available to
actually
BUILD the 2-piece carbon shaft for me on my 94.
They did not
even seem to understand the different types of universal
joints present on
the stock 3 piece version. I was not impressed with
their ability to
actually produce the shafts; I'm sure they can and
supposedly have but does
it have to be a one-off special every
time, and have to send in the 40lbs or
whatever worth of shafts
via UPS every time? Sheesh.
Jack
T.
Geoff Mohler wrote:
> I dont care what they say..I was a
wrench monkey for a speed shop in
> Houston for a while..and installed
many..and threw away the remains of
> many too.
> On Tue, 21 Nov
2000, Sam Shelat wrote:
> > ACPT makes a two piece CF one for the VR-4
for $1047+ shipping. They told
> > me vibration would not be a
problem in our RPM band and can withstand much
> > more shock then the
stock piece. I am going to e-mail them about what Geoff
> > had
mentioned about road debris or daily use.
> > Sam
>
> >
From: Roger Gerl (RTEC) <
roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
> >
>Geoff, for safety I'd install a loop to prevent any serious damage.
Also,
> > >there was no solution yet that got rid of the damn
vibrations that is
> > >produced by the design (single one). The
carbon driveshaft also had this
> > >problem and the one or two who
have them never got rid of the vibs. With an
> > >aluminum ds the
vib will become worser over the time compared to the carbon
> > >one
and you need rebalancing very often.
> > >Hope the product is ok and
you will not make the same experiences as all
> > the others
did.
> > >But what about a two-piece design ?
> >
>Roger 93'3000GT TT
>
> > >Von: "Geoff Mohler"
<
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
>
> >> I will be having my Alum alloy shaft built for my car within the
next 2
> > >> weeks.
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 18:06:40
+0100
From: Roger Gerl <
roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Intercooler Upgrade
>Are there noticable gains to be had
by upgrading intercoolers?
>I have boost up at .75-.8 bar and am pleaseed
with the performance
>increase.
No ! With a larger intercooler you
will gain no performance at all.
Higher boost means more discharge temp of
the turbos. A bigger IC will then
help to cool them down to lower the danger
of preignition that causes
detonation. Therefore a big intercooler or any
hard pipe will only help
when boost is significantly increased and a larger
turbo installed.
>IF there are good gains (I mean seat of the pants
noticable by the way)
>what make are teh best to get for a '93
VR4?
Na, forget it for now as the IC comes after the turbo upgrade. And
the
turbos you have planned will not give you more performance without
larger
injectors. A fuel controller alone doesn't help
anything.
Please note, the most mods must go in at the
same.
Roger
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 18:21:18
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From: Roger Gerl <
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Subject:
Re: Team3S: Ralliart Tuner in Ireland - Thermostat
>Thanks. I'll let
you know how I get on. It might be cheaper for you too. Who
>knows
(miracles can happen you know ;)
Just ask him about the lower temp
RallyArt thermostat. I'm interested in it
but nobody could answer me if it
fits the 3S cars !
Roger
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 09:19:06
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From: Bonnie McLean <
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Subject:
Team3S: re: Filled tank with diesel-94 3000GT dead-help
Sunday I filled
up my gas tank at Union 76, car died 500 ft. after starting.
Had it towed to
the dealer-found out the trucking company had put diesel
fuel in the wrong
pump-so they're flushing the system, BUT
I am getting conflicting stories on
what parts should be replaced,
specifically
the catalytic converter-the
tanking company is picking up the tab on this-so
I want it done right-Can I
have some input out there? I don't want to be
stuck
down the
road!!
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 12:04:48
-0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: re: Filled tank with diesel-94 3000GT dead-help
Okay, I'll
share my experience with my Jeep Grand Cherokee. It was water in
the gasoline
rather than diesel fuel.
1. If the dealer is doing the work, and
they know it is an insurance claim,
they will try to replace everything they
suspect, which is good for you.
2. We had the injectors cleaned,
the fuel tank drained and flushed, the
fuel filter replaced, the spark plugs
replaced, and the oil and filter
replaced because of the possibiltiy of cross
contamination by the EGR
system. You might suspect damage to the fuel pump
and fuel pressure
regulator, and you might worry about the catalytic
converter, except that
you only drove it 500 feet. If the fuel pump is
pumping fuel up to the
proper pressure, you are probably okay. The
dealer should be able to verify
that your fuel delivery system is working
according to spec. If you ran a
long time you might start worrying
about the O2 sensor.
3. The Jeep worked fine after the
repairs.
4. Stick them hard. We all depend on them to provide
reliable fuel. I bet
you weren't the only one that got a tank of
diesel.
Okay, that's my guess! Flame away
Team3si!
Chuck
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
Bonnie McLean [
SMTP:bonnie@benhamad.com]
>
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 11:19 AM
> To:
'team3S@stealth-3000gt.st'>
Subject: Team3S: re: Filled tank with diesel-94 3000GT dead-help
>
> Sunday I filled up my gas tank at Union 76, car died 500 ft.
after
> starting.
> Had it towed to the dealer-found out the
trucking company had put diesel
> fuel in the wrong pump-so they're
flushing the system, BUT
> I am getting conflicting stories on what parts
should be replaced,
> specifically
> the catalytic converter-the
tanking company is picking up the tab on
> this-so
> I want it done
right-Can I have some input out there? I don't want to be
> stuck
>
down the road!!
> Bonnie McLean
>
bonnie@benhamad.com>
>
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 10:02:12
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From: Ken Middaugh <
Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: re: Filled tank with diesel-94 3000GT dead-help
Sorry to hear
the bad news :(
I can't give a definitive answer, so get the advice from
SEVERAL dealers. It
may be that nothing needs to be replaced, and that
a fuel system flush will be
just fine.
Possibly affected items
are:
catalytic converter
pre catalytic converters (if you have the twin
turbo)
oxygen sensors
fuel filter
injectors
Also consider having
the fuel injectors cleaned.
Good luck.
>
> Sunday I
filled up my gas tank at Union 76, car died 500 ft. after starting.
> Had
it towed to the dealer-found out the trucking company had put diesel
>
fuel in the wrong pump-so they're flushing the system, BUT
> I am getting
conflicting stories on what parts should be replaced,
>
specifically
> the catalytic converter-the tanking company is picking up
the tab on this-so
> I want it done right-Can I have some input out there?
I don't want to be
> stuck
> down the road!!
- --
If you
lived in your car, you'd be home by now.
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 12:09:29
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From: "cody" <
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Subject: RE:
Team3S: re: Filled tank with diesel-94 3000GT dead-help
Honestly, I would
have everything fuel related replaced.
To start - flush and fill (not at
that station) the gas tank. replace fuel
pump. flush all fuel
lines to and from the engine. replace injectors.
replace spark
plugs. flush fuel rail. replace fuel pressure regulator.
Did
I miss anything???
- -Cody
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From:
owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st[
mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of Bonnie McLean
Sent: Wednesday, November 22, 2000 11:19 AM
To:
'team3S@stealth-3000gt.st'Subject:
Team3S: re: Filled tank with diesel-94 3000GT dead-help
Sunday I
filled up my gas tank at Union 76, car died 500 ft. after starting.
Had it
towed to the dealer-found out the trucking company had put diesel
fuel in the
wrong pump-so they're flushing the system, BUT
I am getting conflicting
stories on what parts should be replaced,
specifically
the catalytic
converter-the tanking company is picking up the tab on this-so
I want it done
right-Can I have some input out there? I don't want to be
stuck
down the
road!!
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 20:37:04
+0100
From: "Mikael Kenson" <
vr4@bahnhof.se>
Subject: Team3S: Removal
of AC
Hi,
How much weight can I save by removing all air condition
related parts? I
don't want to take away the console in the car since the car
doesn't look
stock if I do. Will the display and ventilation work even if I
remove AC
compressor etc (except from no cold
air...)?
Thanks,
Mikael Kenson
http://www.3000gt.nu***
Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 20:22:03
+0100
From: "Mikael Kenson" <
vr4@bahnhof.se>
Subject: Team3S: Engine
size
Hi,
Has anyone considered bigger bore pistons to get more
volume? If so how big
is it possible to go? If I remember right someone
posted pics of a 3.5 liter
3000GT (had direct port NOS) but maybe that engine
had longer stroke as
well...
/Mikael Kenson
http://www.3000gt.nu***
Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 20:40:04
+0100
From: "Mikael Kenson" <
vr4@bahnhof.se>
Subject: Team3S:
Cams
Hi,
How much HP can be gained by using other (custom made)
cams on a VR4?
The engine is highly modified and will be ported
etc.
Thanks,
Mikael Kenson
http://www.3000gt.nu ***
Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 20:46:20
+0100
From: "Mikael Kenson" <
vr4@bahnhof.se>
Subject: Team3S: Intake
manifold
Hello,
Where can I find a higher flowing intake
manifold?
Has any one with rebuilt fuel system (cross flow left to right
on both
banks) had problems that indicate that the right hand cylinders
receive more
air that the left cylinders due to poor intake manifold
design?
Thanks,
Mikael Kenson
http://www.3000gt.nu***
Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
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Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 20:29:49
+0100
From: "Mikael Kenson" <
vr4@bahnhof.se>
Subject: Team3S: Nitrous
oxide
Hello,
I shall install a nitrous oxide for use at launch
only (and maybe a short
burst in 3'rd gear..)
What is the best nitrous
oxide system for a VR4?
How big shot?
As my car is modified I
don't care if it's a complete kit or not.
NOS for example, I have heard
that there are different Solenoids available,
which one shall I
use?
Thanks,
Mikael Kenson
http://www.3000gt.nu***
Info:
http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm
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