team3s Wednesday,
November 15 2000 Volume 01
: Number
324
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Date:
Tue, 14 Nov 2000 10:20:41 -0600
From: "Thoms, Shane - SGIG" <
sthoms@cardinalcorp.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Tour ECS light not on
Have the same problem right now.
Suspension acts the same so I am betting
bulb.
Have the damn defroster
vents to do anyway... ugh.
Shane
- -----Original
Message-----
From: Jannusch, Matt [
mailto:mjannusch@marketwatch.com]
Sent:
Monday, November 13, 2000 8:37 PM
To: Team3S Stealth
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Tour ECS light not on
> A new member of my group has asked why her
Tour light (for ECS)
> does not come on. She says that her Sport
light comes on when
> she hits the button, but no Tour. Any
suggestions?
The most likely cause is a burned out lamp. Does the
suspension seem to
change softer in tour and harder in sport? If the
shocks seem to be
functioning correctly then the lamp would be the #1
suspect. If there's no
difference in feel when switching modes then you
need to go through the ECS
troubleshooting section in the service
manual.
- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4
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Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 11:44:30
-0800
From: "Bob Forrest" <
bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: (no subject)
- ----- Original Message ----- From: <
Sportsmobile101@aol.com>
>
HI everyone, i am really sad after crashing my car. Someone
decided
to
> leave a plastic turp on the freeway on a foggy night and i was
the
> unfortuante one to find it. I really loved my car and the
worst part
is i
> couldn't afford full coverage. At 18 years old
i don't have that
great of an
> income, what do you guys suggest i
should do? Should i try to fix the
car,
> or give it away.
I need a new door, the front end is looking bad, the
only
> good thing
is that the engine is still running. Please help, anything
goes
>
right now. Thank you in advance.
> Chris 92 3000GT SL
Sorry
to hear your bad news, Chris... But it's hard to give an opinion
when
we know so little about your circumstances:
How little insurance? ($500
deductible, $1000 deductible, etc...?)
What did the insurance company
say?
What did the cops say?
This is a singular issue (rather than one
for the list), so please reply
privately, and I'll give you what little
advice I can offer. Only you
can decide what *can* be
done...
Best,
Forrest
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Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 12:31:24
EST
From:
Sportsmobile101@aol.comSubject:
Team3S: Crashed My 92 3000GT, Please help.
Sorry i posted this
message, but i forgot to write a subject.
HI
everyone, i am really sad after crashing my car. Someone decided to
leave a plastic turp on the freeway on a foggy night and i was the
unfortuante one to find it. I really loved my car and the worst part
is i
couldn't afford full coverage. At 18 years old i don't have that
great of an
income, what do you guys suggest i should do? Should i try
to fix the car,
or give it away. I need a new door, the front end is
looking bad, the only
good thing is that the engine is still running.
Please help, anything goes
right now. Thank you in advance.
Chris 92 3000GT SL
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Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 08:54:55
-0500
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <
DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Warranty coverage
I recently purchased the "cover all" warranty
for my 1995 VR-4 (50k miles).
There are a few warranty companies out there
who cover the non-twin turbo
models of the Stealth, 3000GT, Supra, etc. but
not many cover the big bad
boys.
Here is a company who does so if you
are looking for warranty coverage then
look no further. I am not
affiliated with this company but after seeing how
hard it was to find a
company who covered the twin turbo models. I also
heeded the warnings
of everyone on the list to "not go a single day without
a warranty on the
tranny" (since those are so expensive to fix) and decided
to get the
"anything that breaks gets fixed" coverage.
Global Standard Warranty
Ltd.
Administered by: Warranty Administration Corporation
P.O. Box
#140130
Denver, CO 80214-0130
800-445-4065
I do AutoX and Road Race
my car as well as use it for my daily driver so I
can't go a day with it
being broken. And for anyone wondering what it cost
I will give a brief
breakdown below. Feel free to contact the company or
myself (offline
please) for more specific information.
The VR-4/RT TT is in column "G" on
the sheet and for one year the coverage
costs are below. I think these
are with $100 deductible so if you go with a
$200 deductible the rates are a
bit cheaper. They have coverage up to 3
years/36k miles for all
cars. If your car is under 50k then you can get up
to 4 years/48k miles
of coverage.
Powertrain is $980
Standard is $1,202
Preferred is
$1,159
Deluxe is $1,509
- --Flash!
dschilberg@freemarkets.com3Si
#577
1995 Black VR-4 w/ K&N FIPK, a Valentine One, and a custom spark
plug plate
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-----Original Message-----
From:
Sportsmobile101@aol.com [
mailto:Sportsmobile101@aol.com]
Sent:
Tuesday, November 14, 2000 2:52 AM
To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
Team3S: (no subject)
HI everyone, i am really sad
after crashing my car. Someone decided to
leave a plastic turp on the
freeway on a foggy night and i was the
unfortuante one to find it. I
really loved my car and the worst part is i
couldn't afford full
coverage. At 18 years old i don't have that great of
an
income,
what do you guys suggest i should do? Should i try to fix the car,
or
give it away. I need a new door, the front end is looking bad, the only
good thing is that the engine is still running. Please help, anything
goes
right now. Thank you in advance.
Chris 92 3000GT
SL
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Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 08:33:50
-0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Viper Hunting
Rich, be sure to pick rainy
weather!
Chuck
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
Connelly, Jay [
SMTP:jay.connelly@intel.com]
>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 8:23 PM
> To: Team 3S
> Subject: RE:
Team3S: Viper Hunting
>
> Let me know when you are ready to hunt
the Vipers and we can meet up out
> at
> Portland International
Raceway. I have both a VR4 (with a long list of
> mods) and a 99GTS
coupe (with a smaller list of mods). My Viper is quite a
> bit faster at
the track than my VR4 (1:21 in the VR4, 1:17 in the Viper)
> but
>
I'd love to see how some of the more hopped up TTs do against the Dodge.
>
> Biggest problem with the VR4 right now is weight (+400lbs over Viper),
HP
> (VR4 approx = 410, Viper = 510) and Torque (VR4 approx = 390, Viper
=
> 550).
>
> Cheers -
> Jay Connelly
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trent [
mailto:bdtrent@netzero.net]
> Sent:
Sunday, November 12, 2000 6:01 PM
> To: Team 3S
> Subject: Team3S:
Viper Hunting
>
> Rich,
>
> My experience with
upgrades leads me to believe that
> switching to at least a
>
500cc/min injector along with a simple fuel/MAF controller
> will make
the
> single biggest contribution to adding more boost.
After
> gutting all the
> cats, switching to 13g's, and high flow
fuel pump, I noticed
> little
> difference in pull and my EGT's were
pushing 950 C on any
> extended WOT run.
> After adding bigger
injectors, my car came ALIVE! My first
> open track
> event, I
ran a conservative 15psi as my instructor and I
> kept a close eye
on
> my EGT temp. It never went past 850 C. I dialed up
to
> 18psi for a lap but
> EGT's still remained below 850 C. I
had to dial back down
> as my corner
> entry speeds were so much
faster that I found I would need
> to re-learn the
> track not to
mention your brake concerns will take on new
> meaning when you
>
get these things running at 18+psi.
>
> Regards,
>
DaveT/92TT
>
>
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Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 20:21:46
EST
From:
Sportsmobile101@aol.comSubject:
Team3S: Will a hood from a 91 SL fit a 92??
Does
anyone know if a hood from a 91 SL will fit a 92 SL? Thanx in
advance.
Chris.
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Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 18:27:46
-0800 (PST)
From: John Christian <
jczoom_619@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Viper Hunting
Hi all,
CRAP, you West Coast guys have
all the toys!
Mid Ohio would be a good road course to run.
The
ARPCA has an April school, but it usually
rains/snows/hails for one or
both days....AWD rules
then.
Be of good cheer,
John
- ---
"Connelly, Jay" <
jay.connelly@intel.com>
wrote:
> Let me know when you are ready to hunt the Vipers
> and we
can meet up out at
> Portland International Raceway. I have both a
VR4
> (with a long list of
> mods) and a 99GTS coupe (with a smaller
list of
> mods). My Viper is quite a
> bit faster at the track than
my VR4 (1:21 in the
> VR4, 1:17 in the Viper) but
> I'd love to see
how some of the more hopped up TTs
> do against the Dodge.
>
> Biggest problem with the VR4 right now is weight
> (+400lbs over
Viper), HP
> (VR4 approx = 410, Viper = 510) and Torque (VR4
>
approx = 390, Viper = 550).
>
> Cheers -
> Jay
Connelly
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
Trent [
mailto:bdtrent@netzero.net]
> Sent:
Sunday, November 12, 2000 6:01 PM
> To: Team 3S
> Subject: Team3S:
Viper Hunting
>
> Rich,
>
> My experience with
upgrades leads me to believe
> that
> switching to at least
a
> 500cc/min injector along with a simple fuel/MAF
>
controller
> will make the
> single biggest contribution to adding
more boost.
> After
> gutting all the
> cats, switching to
13g's, and high flow fuel pump,
> I noticed
> little
>
difference in pull and my EGT's were pushing 950 C
> on any
>
extended WOT run.
> After adding bigger injectors, my car came ALIVE!
> My first
> open track
> event, I ran a conservative 15psi
as my instructor
> and I
> kept a close eye on
> my EGT
temp. It never went past 850 C. I dialed
> up to
>
18psi for a lap but
> EGT's still remained below 850 C. I had to
dial
> back down
> as my corner
> entry speeds were so much
faster that I found I
> would need
> to re-learn the
> track
not to mention your brake concerns will take
> on new
> meaning when
you
> get these things running at 18+psi.
>
>
Regards,
> DaveT/92TT
>
>
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Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 21:13:53
-0600
From: "Brad Bedell" <
bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Will a hood from a 91 SL fit a
92??
Yes
Brad
Check out my home page:
http://home.austin.rr.com/overboost/E-Mail:
bbedell@austin.rr.com ICQ#
3612682
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From:
owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st[
mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of
Sportsmobile101@aol.comSent:
Tuesday, November 14, 2000 7:22 PM
To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
Team3S: Will a hood from a 91 SL fit a 92??
Does
anyone know if a hood from a 91 SL will fit a 92 SL? Thanx
in
advance.
Chris.
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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 08:59:33
-0800
From: "Bob Forrest" <
bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Will a hood from a 91 SL fit a 92??
1991 through 1993 hoods will
fit a '92.
- ----- Original Message ----- From: <
Sportsmobile101@aol.com>
>
Does anyone know if a hood from a 91 SL will fit a 92 SL? Thanx in
>
advance.
> Chris.
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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:11:20
-0500
From: "anscray" <
anscray@mediaone.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Upgraded Value
Hello All,
I have a 94 3000GT SL and VR4.. My SL has a Borla Cat-Back system
that
I realize now that I cant move over to the VR4, so I guess Im going to
have
to bite the bullett and buy a whole new TT system.. I have a
buyer for my
SL as I really dont need 2 3000's although it is nice.. My
problem is I
think I might be selling the SL too cheap and I need some
input.. My SL has
91,000 miles, The Borla system, and everything else
that was an option on
the 3000 GT SL in 1994.. I agreed to sell the car
for $ 9,500.00 w/o the
exhaust system, however I did not save the stock
system and I am pretty much
forced to sell the car w/Borla included.. Unless
I search for a stock system
to put back on and sell the Borla system
seperately.. This seems a bit
tedious.. So, Is $9,500 way to cheap with the
Borla system included or
should I be happy selling my SL for $9,500 with the
Borla... Any advice
would be greatly appreciated..
Scott
Ancil
94 3000GT SL
Pearl
White(Borla)
94 3000GT
VR4 Green(K&N CAI)
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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 12:59:30
-0800
From: "Bob Forrest" <
bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Team3S: No
Eibachs made for VR4s w/auto sunroof...
After the discussion on the list
last week, I emailed Eibach directly
and asked about those models. Here
is my email, and what they
replied
(below).
Best,
Forrest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Name:
Bob Forrest
Company: Team3S
Question:
Do you make a Pro-Kit for a '95
Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4 WITH an automatic
sunroof? You appear to have
applications for all other models, but I
can't find that
one...
TIA,
Bob Forrest
Admin, Team3S
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From: Alex Dupleich
eibach@eibach.comTo: Bob
Forrest
Subject: Eibach
Products
Thanks for your interest in Eibach Springs. In regards to
your 1995
Mitsubishi 3000 VR4, I am sorry to inform you but we do not
carry a spring
kit for that model. Thanks for your patience in
this
matter.
Sincerely,
Team Eibach
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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:31:31
-0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Upgraded Value
Hate to tell you, but (imho) seldom do you
ever get the price/value of
modifications you put in when you sell. I
think if you're getting $9.5K for
a '93 SL with 91K miles, you are doing
quite well. You say you can't use
the Borla cat back onthe VR4, so it
is of no value to you, except perhaps to
make the SL more attractive to a
buyer. Enjoy your VR4!
> -----Original Message-----
>
From: anscray [
SMTP:anscray@mediaone.net]
>
Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2000 3:11 PM
> To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Subject: Team3S: Upgraded Value
>
> Hello All,
>
> I have a 94 3000GT SL and VR4.. My
SL has a Borla Cat-Back system
> that
> I realize now that I cant
move over to the VR4, so I guess Im going to
> have
> to bite the
bullett and buy a whole new TT system.. I have a buyer for
>
my
> SL as I really dont need 2 3000's although it is nice.. My
problem is I
> think I might be selling the SL too cheap and I need some
input.. My SL
> has
> 91,000 miles, The Borla system, and
everything else that was an option on
> the 3000 GT SL in 1994.. I
agreed to sell the car for $ 9,500.00 w/o the
> exhaust system, however I
did not save the stock system and I am pretty
> much
> forced to
sell the car w/Borla included.. Unless I search for a stock
>
system
> to put back on and sell the Borla system seperately.. This seems
a bit
> tedious.. So, Is $9,500 way to cheap with the Borla system
included or
> should I be happy selling my SL for $9,500 with the Borla...
Any advice
> would be greatly appreciated..
>
>
>
> Scott
Ancil
>
94 3000GT
> SL
> Pearl
White(Borla)
>
94 3000GT
> VR4 Green(K&N CAI)
>
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 23:27:09
+0100
From: "Roger Gerl \(RTEC\)" <
roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: No Eibachs made for VR4s w/auto sunroof...
http://www.eibach.com/All the availble
kits are listed there. Eibach Germany told me that the
sunroof starts to
"squeek" (ahem, right word ??) when a kit would be
installed. I do have
the Sport Kit on my Camaro Convertible and I must say
... horrible. The
Camaro is already made ... lets say not compareable to
other qualities but
now I hear squeeks allover the car.
Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch> After the discussion
on the list last week, I emailed Eibach directly
> and asked about those
models. Here is my email, and what they replied
>
(below).
>
> Best,
>
> Forrest
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
>
Name: Bob Forrest
> Company: Team3S
> Question:
> Do you make
a Pro-Kit for a '95 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4 WITH an automatic
> sunroof? You
appear to have applications for all other models, but I
> can't find that
one...
>
> TIA,
>
> Bob Forrest
> Admin,
Team3S
> ----------------------------
>
> From: Alex
Dupleich
eibach@eibach.com>
To: Bob Forrest
> Subject: Eibach
Products
>
>
Thanks for your interest in Eibach Springs. In regards to
> your 1995
Mitsubishi 3000 VR4, I am sorry to inform you but we do not
> carry a
spring kit for that model. Thanks for your patience in this
>
matter.
>
>
Sincerely,
>
Team Eibach
>
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Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:19:17
-0800
From: "Bob Forrest" <
bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Upgraded Value
Hey, Scott,
If you look at the 3/S values
on our Price page (
www.Team3S.com/FAQ.htm, under
'Basics'), your SL is listed at $14,771 retail, $10,630
wholesale.
That's what a dealer will sell/buy a '94 with approximately
10k miles/year,
or 60k on it. Yours has a 30k more than that, and the
prices on our
page are as of Aug 1, so adjust your numbers somewhat
lower-- Let's
call it $13k (R) and $9k (W) . Since you say the car is
in good shape,
your selling price should be closer to the middle of
those figures, or $11k,
IMO... Check similar available cars in your
area on
www.autotrader.com , and you'll have a
better "real world" idea
of how much you can get for
it.
Best,
Forrest
- ----- Original Message ----- From:
"anscray" <
anscray@mediaone.net>
>
I have a 94 3000GT SL and VR4.. My SL has a Borla Cat-Back
system
that
> I realize now that I cant move over to the VR4, so I guess Im going
to
have
> to bite the bullett and buy a whole new TT
system.. I have a buyer
for my
> SL as I really dont need 2
3000's although it is nice.. My problem is
I
> think I might be
selling the SL too cheap and I need some input.. My
SL has
>
91,000 miles, The Borla system, and everything else that was an
option
on
> the 3000 GT SL in 1994.. I agreed to sell the car for
$ 9,500.00 w/o
the
> exhaust system, however I did not save the stock
system and I am
pretty much
> forced to sell the car w/Borla included..
Unless I search for a stock
system
> to put back on and sell the Borla
system seperately.. This seems a bit
> tedious.. So, Is $9,500 way to
cheap with the Borla system included or
> should I be happy selling my SL
for $9,500 with the Borla... Any
advice
> would be greatly
appreciated..
> Scott Ancil
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