team3s           Tuesday, November 14 2000           Volume 01 : Number 323




----------------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 14:56:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Team3S: Tranny wanted

I want:

One BAD VR4 tranny.

I dont care how it shifts, as long as I can WOT it on a dyno (will weld
together for FWD only function to tune car in January).

Anyone?  I cant imagine a smoked one is worth a whole lot..


***  Info:  http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm  ***

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 18:23:21 -0800
From: "Connelly, Jay" <jay.connelly@intel.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Viper Hunting

Let me know when you are ready to hunt the Vipers and we can meet up out at
Portland International Raceway.  I have both a VR4 (with a long list of
mods) and a 99GTS coupe (with a smaller list of mods). My Viper is quite a
bit faster at the track than my VR4 (1:21 in the VR4, 1:17 in the Viper) but
I'd love to see how some of the more hopped up TTs do against the Dodge.

Biggest problem with the VR4 right now is weight (+400lbs over Viper), HP
(VR4 approx = 410, Viper = 510) and Torque (VR4 approx = 390, Viper = 550).

Cheers -
Jay Connelly


-----Original Message-----
From: Trent [mailto:bdtrent@netzero.net]
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 6:01 PM
To: Team 3S
Subject: Team3S: Viper Hunting

Rich,

My experience with upgrades leads me to believe that
switching to at least a
500cc/min injector along with a simple fuel/MAF controller
will make the
single biggest contribution to adding more boost.  After
gutting all the
cats, switching to 13g's, and high flow fuel pump, I noticed
little
difference in pull and my EGT's were pushing 950 C on any
extended WOT run.
After adding bigger injectors, my car came ALIVE!  My first
open track
event, I ran a conservative 15psi as my instructor and I
kept a close eye on
my EGT temp.  It never went past 850 C.   I dialed up to
18psi for a lap but
EGT's still remained below 850 C.  I had to dial back down
as my corner
entry speeds were so much faster that I found I would need
to re-learn the
track not to mention your brake concerns will take on new
meaning when you
get these things running at 18+psi.

Regards,
DaveT/92TT


____________NetZero Free Internet Access and Email_________
Download Now     http://www.netzero.net/download/index.html
Request a CDROM  1-800-333-3633
___________________________________________________________

***  Info:  http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm  ***


***  Info:  http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm  ***

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 21:30:25 -0500
From: Ken Stanton <tt007ken@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S: Tour ECS light not on

Hello all

A new member of my group has asked why her Tour light (for ECS) does not
come on.  She says that her Sport light comes on when she hits the
button, but no Tour.  Any suggestions?
Thanks!

Ken Stanton
'91 Pearl White RT/TT
Organizer - 3SI Rochester (NY)


__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger.
http://im.yahoo.com

***  Info:  http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm  ***

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 20:36:43 -0600
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Tour ECS light not on

> A new member of my group has asked why her Tour light (for ECS)
> does not come on.  She says that her Sport light comes on when
> she hits the button, but no Tour.  Any suggestions?

The most likely cause is a burned out lamp.  Does the suspension seem to
change softer in tour and harder in sport?  If the shocks seem to be
functioning correctly then the lamp would be the #1 suspect.  If there's no
difference in feel when switching modes then you need to go through the ECS
troubleshooting section in the service manual.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

***  Info:  http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm  ***

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 21:55:40 -0500
From: smii <smii@mediaone.net>
Subject: Team3S: Engine Light Turning On

Hello everybody,

I've managed to tune my VPC much better since I took Jeff Lucius' advice
and went to Bob Fontana's page.  The only problem I am having now is
that under hard acceleration, once my car hits about 4,000-4,500 RPMs,
the check engine light turns on and I see a bunch of black smoke pouring
out of the exhaust.  I have a feeling that I am running WAY too rich.
Does anyone know how I can get my car to run a little leaner at full
throttle?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks, everyone!!

Boris


***  Info:  http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm  ***

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 18:31:05 -0800
From: "Connelly, Jay" <jay.connelly@intel.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Let's go Viper Hunting!

Good luck. I was on the same quest a couple of years ago. I think you
accurately called out the cars that were problems for me.  In the end, I
wound up retiring the VR4 to street duty and buying a Viper.  BTW - I think
you need a bit more than 400HP to keep up with the Vipers since they weigh
about 400lbs less than a standard VR4 and dyno 405 at the rear wheels out of
the box.

At the track, I was running 1.1bar with the stock turbos.  Lowered an inch
with all the plumbing you mentioned.  I could keep up with all of the older
vipers (pre-97) at PIR and in fact, I could beat many of the newer ('97+)
Vipers.  The problem I had was when I came across a good driver in a newer
Viper, they did fairly well in the corners and pulled away on the straights.
Not to mention that some of my friends had modded Vipers that could keep up
with me on the corners.  Actually, having one of them hang with the VR4 in
the corners was what finally made me break down and buy a Viper.  After all,
not much chance to hang with them on the straights and if one with
relatively minor mods can hang with me on the corners, it felt like a losing
battle.

Tell you what - I really love the VR4 in the off season. Still a great car!!

Jay Connelly


-----Original Message-----
From: Merritt [mailto:merritt@cedar-rapids.net]
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2000 9:32 AM
To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st; stealth@starnet.net
Subject: Team3S: Let's go Viper Hunting!

I need some good tech advice on engine mods. All I have
right now is a K&N.
My requirements are somewhat different than all you
dragstrip demons,
because I run open track events on road courses.

As it stands right now, a VR4 is the equal of every
street-driven, licensed
car on a road course, with the exception of Vipers, TT AWD
Porsches, and
Cobra Rs (and maybe new M3s and 911s, but I haven't seen any
yet). With
upgraded brakes and suspension, we can stay with them
through the twisty
bits, but they tend to pull away (or catch up) on the
straights with their
superior horsepower.

I want to build a car that can at least stay with them on
straights. I
don't have to be faster, just NOT SLOWER. I have followed
enough TT
Porsches to know that they are not that much faster than us,
but they are
definitely faster in a straight line. And you haven't lived
until you see a
Cobra R or a modded Supra in your mirrors, coming up on you
at 140+ like a
freight train.

I figure I need 400+ hp to stay with them.
450 hp probably would be right on.

Here is what I am planning:

Blitz DSBC boost controller (because it's simple and has
multiple
settings), running 15 psi mostly, 18 psi occasionally.
Spearco water injection (to keep combustion temps down)
   (There is slim to no chance I will change these unless
DSBCs are no
longer available. My buddy Curt G knows how to make these
work, and that
seems to be 95% of the battle)

ATR downpipe.
Gut cats, remove main cat
Run custom-made single exhaust to straight through muffler.
At the track, I will run 100+ octane racing gas.

Think this will do it?
Any other suggestions?
When do I start getting into problems with overheated
intercoolers?
Do I need a knock sensor?
I have been blowing off my Y-pipe lately -- is it time for a
new one?
Suggestions?

Remember, I am not looking for 11 second quarter miles here.

I need a system that will give me good, constant horsepower
for 20-30
MINUTES at a time -- sort of like our friends do on the
Autobahns --
without frying the engine internals or overheating the
engine.

All suggestions welcome, especially from Germany and other
open trackers.
Remember, I need power AND reliability.

In 2002, we'll probably go to a dedicated track car with 600
hp, depending
on what kind of success Geoff has...but this year, I just
want to have the
fastest street-driven car on the track.

Rich/old poop/94 VR4
K&N
Big Red Porsche brakes w/Hawk Blues, SS lines, Ford fluid,
air ducting,
water injection.
(Air blowers and water injection to calipers next).
Ground Control suspension w/Eibachs and camber plates
(Penske shocks next)

***  Info:  http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm  ***


***  Info:  http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm  ***

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 02:52:05 EST
From: Sportsmobile101@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: (no subject)

    HI everyone, i am really sad after crashing my car.  Someone decided to
leave a plastic turp on the freeway on a foggy night and i was the
unfortuante one to find it.  I really loved my car and the worst part is i
couldn't afford full coverage.  At 18 years old i don't have that great of an
income, what do you guys suggest i should do?  Should i try to fix the car,
or give it away.  I need a new door, the front end is looking bad, the only
good thing is that the engine is still running.  Please help, anything goes
right now.  Thank you in advance. 

Chris 92 3000GT SL
                              

***  Info:  http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm  ***

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 09:36:27 -0000
From: "Martinb" <martin@star.co.uk>
Subject: Team3S: spoiler identification help

Hi all
If anyone has the time, could they have a look @ this website
www.berkley.co.uk and try to identify the make of front spoiler on the
3000GTO for me as i haven't a clue what it is.
And if anyone knows where one can be obtained would be useful.
Thanks in advance.
Martin.


________________________________________________________________________
This message has been checked for all known viruses, by Star Internet,
delivered through the MessageLabs Virus Control Centre.
For further information visit:
http://www.star.net.uk/stats.asp


***  Info:  http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm  ***

------------------------------

Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2000 17:02:00 -0600
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Team3S: Got trunk parts left?

To all those folks who were parting out their 3000GTs:

Anybody got the trunk trays left?  These are the two floor trays on the
driver's side of the spare tire well. I would like to relocate my battery
and CD player to this area, and I don't want to cut up my stock trays. I
want to keep them pristine in case I have to put the car back stock some day.

(Can you imagine when I eventually put my open tracking car back on the
market as a stocker? It'll have roll cage brackets welded to the floor,
funny-looking hoses and stuff under the hood, the remnants of brake ducts
and so on. Yet, the ad can say, "Low Mileage! Driven only on weekends by an
old poop." )

Please contact me off list if you got trays at:
merritt@cedar-rapids.net

Rich/old poop

***  Info:  http://www.Team3S.com/Rules.htm  ***

------------------------------

End of team3s V1 #323
*********************