team3s
Wednesday, November 1
2000 Volume 01 :
Number
312
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Date:
Tue, 31 Oct 2000 09:10:22 -0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Helmet Requirements
It depends on the club. You need to
check their specific requirements.
Some go so far as to check the sticker
inside the lining before letting you
on the track. Some have older or
newer requirements.
With regard to fireproofing again, it varies - some
have rigid requirements
about suits and fire extinguishers, others are more
lax. Check before you
assume you got it right.
Chuck
>
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>
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 6:05 PM
> To: Team 3S
> Subject:
Team3S: Helmet Requirements
>
> Do any of our regular club racers
know what the minimum requirements are
> for
> helmets? Is
Snell 95 sufficient, or do I need an additional fireproof
>
certification?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> DaveT/92TT
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:45:50
-0500
From: Rick Diogo <
rick@ceo-consulting.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Parts for sale
Pair of brand new turbos for a 95 Vr-4.
These are the 9b factory
turbos. I have a pair of actuators to go with
them. These turbos are
brand new still sealed in the Mitsubishi
boxes. (make offer)
Factory airbox from 94 R/T
TT. - $40
Parts are located in Florida. Buyer pays
shipping. I ship UPS ground.
Please email privately.
Thanks.
Rick Diogo
2000 Viper GTS
ex-94 R/T TT owner - loved
it.
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 16:05:01
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From: Gordon Tyrrell <
gordon.tyrrell@openet-int.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Parts shop in Florida
I'm looking for a parts supplier in Florida
(Orlando preferably) as I'm
visiting from the 10th Dec. and would be
interested in getting some parts
then so I can avoid shipping and import duty
headaches.
Thanks
Gordon
Dublin, Ireland
'93 Dark Metallic
Grey VVR4 (japanese import)
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 11:17:20
EST
From:
The68th@aol.comSubject:
Team3S: Exhaust Leak
Hey, I swear this car just loves to fall apart on
me. I just brought my car
in the shop for loud exhaust, expecting it
to be a broken flex tube or
something. Turns out that it's a leak in
the front exhaust pipe. And they
claim the part is around $850.00, and
it will be a little over a grand after
labor and tax. Can this be
right? Anyone have a front exhaust tube laying
around from upgrading
to custom exhaust? I have a 1992 Dodge Stealth ES, and
it's all
stock. Also, is it a possibility that this can be patched or
welded,
or what price would I be looking at from one of our discount dealers?
Thanks a lot, you guys keep me on the road.
Chris Boldon
1992
Stealth ES - Loud and in shop
P.S.
Will this hurt my car driving with
the exhaust like that?
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 11:17:17
EST
From:
The68th@aol.comSubject:
Team3S: Exhaust Leak
Hey, I swear this car just loves to fall apart on
me. I just brought my car
in the shop for loud exhaust, expecting it
to be a broken flex tube or
something. Turns out that it's a leak in
the front exhaust pipe. And they
claim the part is around $850.00, and
it will be a little over a grand after
labor and tax. Can this be
right? Anyone have a front exhaust tube laying
around from upgrading
to custom exhaust? I have a 1992 Dodge Stealth ES, and
it's all
stock. Also, is it a possibility that this can be patched or
welded,
or what price would I be looking at from one of our discount dealers?
Thanks a lot, you guys keep me on the road.
Chris Boldon
1992
Stealth ES - Loud and in shop
P.S.
Will this hurt my car driving with
the exhaust like that?
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 10:32:11
-0600
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Exhaust Leak
just don't breathe the fumes, man!
>
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> From:
The68th@aol.com [
SMTP:The68th@aol.com]
> Sent:
Tuesday, October 31, 2000 10:17 AM
> To:
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Subject: Team3S: Exhaust Leak
>
> Hey, I swear this car just loves
to fall apart on me. I just brought my
> car
> in the shop
for loud exhaust, expecting it to be a broken flex tube or
>
something. Turns out that it's a leak in the front exhaust pipe.
And
> they
> claim the part is around $850.00, and it will be a
little over a grand
> after
> labor and tax. Can this be
right? Anyone have a front exhaust tube
> laying
> around
from upgrading to custom exhaust? I have a 1992 Dodge Stealth ES,
>
and
> it's all stock. Also, is it a possibility that this can be
patched or
> welded, or what price would I be looking at from one of our
discount
> dealers?
> Thanks a lot, you guys keep me on the
road.
> Chris Boldon
> 1992 Stealth ES - Loud and in shop
>
> P.S.
> Will this hurt my car driving with the exhaust like
that?
>
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 12:06:13
-0500
From: Ken Stanton <
tt007ken@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Exhaust Leak
You may not like this answer, but that is the right
price for a dodge part.
Mitsu will give you the same pipe for about $550, and
then their's the option my
fiance took for her '92 ES with a broken front
pipe-Monroe Muffler. It was
$325. And it is direly important that
you change that part because it will throw
off the O2 sensor reading, run
rich, bake your cat. conv. and cause ruckus. Best
of luck!
Ken
Stanton
'91 Pearl White RT/TT
Organizer - 3SI Rochester (NY)
The68th@aol.com wrote:
> Hey, I
swear this car just loves to fall apart on me. I just brought my
car
> in the shop for loud exhaust, expecting it to be a broken flex tube
or
> something. Turns out that it's a leak in the front exhaust
pipe. And they
> claim the part is around $850.00, and it will be a
little over a grand after
> labor and tax. Can this be right?
Anyone have a front exhaust tube laying
> around from upgrading to custom
exhaust? I have a 1992 Dodge Stealth ES, and
> it's all stock.
Also, is it a possibility that this can be patched or
> welded, or what
price would I be looking at from one of our discount dealers?
>
Thanks a lot, you guys keep me on the road.
> Chris Boldon
> 1992
Stealth ES - Loud and in shop
>
> P.S.
> Will this hurt my car
driving with the exhaust like that?
>
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 16:02:05
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From:
The68th@aol.comSubject:
Team3S: Exhaust leak UPDATE
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Ok, I just got a
call back from the mechanic. They say that the pipe cannot
be
welded. It is the bifold part(Whatever that is), and is broken on the
flex part? I have no clue what this means. What is the technical
name for
the part if I were to call the junk yard or something? Or can
I just get a
performance part that would fit it and not have to pay factory
prices?
Thanks again
Chris
1992 Dodge Stealth ES
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<HTML><FONT SIZE=2>Ok, I just got a call back from
the mechanic. They say that the pipe cannot <BR>be welded.
It is the bifold part(Whatever that is), and is broken on the
<BR>flex part? I have no clue what this means. What is
the technical name for <BR>the part if I were to call the junk yard or
something? Or can I just get a <BR>performance part that would
fit it and not have to pay factory prices?
<BR>Thanks
again
<BR>Chris
<BR>1992 Dodge Stealth
ES</FONT></HTML>
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 19:46:41
-0500
From: Michael Reid <
mreidis@home.com>
Subject: Team3S: Snow
Tires on 94 Stealth TT/AWD - Michelin Pilot Alpins ? 215/55/16 on 16 X 7 steel
wheels ?
Hi all,
I'm new to the Team3S list but may have spoken
with some of you
on the Starnet list back in 1996.
Back in 96 there
seemed to be only two snow tires for the car:
the Dodge recommended Goodyear
Eagle M+S and a Pirelli. They were both
about $300 Canadian ($200 US) each
and no inexpensive wheels were available.
OEM wheels from Chrysler were about
$300 Canadian.
Since they weren't "true" snow tires and they would have
cost some
$1400 Canadian with taxes without wheels or $2800 with new wheels,
and since
I don't drive the TT too much, especially in bad weather, I decided
not to
bother.
Even with the 245/45/ZR-17 OEM Goodyear GSC "frozen
hockey pucks", here in
Ottawa, Canada, the AWD made the Stealth so much
better than my previous 87
Mustang GT
with 225/60/15s in winter that I was
content. Even during the ice storm a
few years ago
during which I drove
every day, there was only 1 day when I was nervous...
driving
VERY
carefully on pure ice on the 417 highway at 20-30 km/h (12-20 mph)
when
most were doing
10-20 km/h (6-12 mph).
Flash forward 4 1/2
years to the present and there seems to be a lot more
variety
for
performance snow tires: Michelin, Bridgestone, Dunlop and Yokahama now
make
snow tires
in 16", 17" and even some 18" sizes. Also, my local tire guy
(Frisby Tire)
tells me he can
now get 16" x 7" steel wheels that should
(hopefully?) fit the TT even with
the bigger 94+
brake rotors, and they
are only $70 Canadian ($45 US) each.
So, I could get 4 Michelin Pilot
Alpin's 215/55/16 on 16 x 7 steel wheels
for about
$1200 Canadian ($800
US) all taxes (7% GST and 8% PST) included. I'm
tempted to go this
route
for snow traction and economic reasons.
Or I could get 4
Michelin Pilot Alpin's 235/45/17 on the current OEM
wheels for about
$1300
Canadian ($860 US) or possibly on 17" steel wheels for maybe $1650
Canadian
($1100 US).
Wonder if the $450 extra for 17" tires and steel wheels would buy
me much
better dry handling
to be worth it for the 4 1/2 months per year
they are on ?
Any thoughts on the Pilot Alpin's ? I don't drive like
a maniac very
often, rarely go over
85 mph (did 140 mph once) and have
only heard noise from my Goodyear Eagle
GSCs when they were
misaligned;
never made them squeal due to cornering, accelleration or
braking. So I don't
need
outright performance, but appreciate a quiet, soft, yet OEM sporty
feel.
I want decent cold and winter performance over snow and ice on
those 20%
of winter days
we might have snow or ice, but I don't want
squirm or fast tread wear. I
also want a reasonably
economical and common
tire that might be found on a Saturday in Timbuktoo
should a tire
need
replacing on a road trip.
Can anyone relate their
thoughts/experiences with 16" or 17" steel wheels
on a TT/AWD ?
A 92
owners manual mentions using 16" wheels and 225/55/16 tires on 16 x 8
JJ
wheels when using
chains but recommends 235/45/17 Goodyear M+S's without
chains.
Thanks for any feedback,
Mike.
Black 1994 Dodge
Stealth RT/TT/AWD/ECS.
HKS Super Power Flo air filter (w/ 4 years of dust
mod).
HKS Exhaust (and stock BOV goose honk w/ 0.1 - 0.2 bar boost
mod).
Occasional 1-2 synchro crunch mod since 96 - no better, no
worse.
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 21:26:25
EST
From:
GREEN3000GTO@aol.comSubject: Team3S:
plugs and plugwires
Hello, I was alwas told that I had to purchase the
plugs from the dealer for
about $13 to $15 a pice. Now here is my question I
called Audozone and the
said that they carried the Bosch 4+platium plugs for
$6.99 a piece and the
Bosch premium plugwires for $89.99. Now I forgot who
on this list told me
that these was the best plugwires and plugs to run in
our car. Now if this is
the ones then why are the dealer ship wanting $15
for their plugs and
Autozone is only wanting $6.99 for theirs. Autozone even
said that they carry
the intake gasket the one you have to remove for $38.99
Do you guys think
that sounds right.
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 21:51:27
-0500
From: Ken Stanton <
tt007ken@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: plugs and plugwires
Ok don't know about performance but can talk
price!
The plugs you can get for $9.25/each, the wires for $50, and the
gasket for $5.25
from Conicelli Mitsubishi in PA. Call
1-800-892-8994, ask for John, and tell him
you are a 3SI member and that
Ken referred you. He'll take good care of ya.
Best of luck!
Ken
Stanton
'91 Pearl White RT/TT
Organizer - 3SI Rochester
(NY)
GREEN3000GTO@aol.com wrote:
>
Hello, I was alwas told that I had to purchase the plugs from the dealer
for
> about $13 to $15 a pice. Now here is my question I called Audozone
and the
> said that they carried the Bosch 4+platium plugs for $6.99 a
piece and the
> Bosch premium plugwires for $89.99. Now I forgot who on
this list told me
> that these was the best plugwires and plugs to run in
our car. Now if this is
> the ones then why are the dealer ship wanting
$15 for their plugs and
> Autozone is only wanting $6.99 for theirs.
Autozone even said that they carry
> the intake gasket the one you have to
remove for $38.99 Do you guys think
> that sounds right.
>
>
Thanks you.
>
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 23:09:24
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From: "Michael D. Crose" <
ncsu4me@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: plugs and plugwires
Use the NGK plugs, the extra money is worth
it. This info is for the turbo
models:
Spark plug wires MD156560 1
Set 53.26 Norco Mitsubishi
NGK Spark Plugs
PFR6J11 6 Plugs 68.12 Advance
Auto
The price for the wires is with the 3si 20% discount at Norco
Mitsubishi(1-888-689-1788 ask for Paul.)
Hope this
helps,
Michael
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 20:28:02
-0800
From: "Jim Berry" <
fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
plugs and plugwires
- ----- Original Message -----
From: <
GREEN3000GTO@aol.com>
>
Hello, I was alwas told that I had to purchase the plugs from the dealer for
> about $13 to $15 a pice. Now here is my question I called Audozone and
the
> said that they carried the Bosch 4+platium plugs for $6.99 a piece
and the
> Bosch premium plugwires for $89.99
Last I heard the
Bosch 4+ were not 'approved' for use on the Mitsubishi ---
I was told that
means that they haven't been tested on the car that doesn't
mean they aren't
any good just not tested. Bottom line use at your
own
risk
Jim
Berry
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 23:26:32
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From: "Michael D. Crose" <
ncsu4me@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Interior lightbulbs and starting ?'s
I have a few bulbs out I was
wondering if I could get those at the local
auto parts store or if they are
dealer parts. The inspection light under
the hood, the passenger side
vanity light, and the light in the back of the
hatch are all burnt
out.
Also, What makes a car be able to jump to life almost
instantaneously? I
read some where that race engines start fast but
run rough, is this true?
Somedays it takes my car like a second or two
to jump to life will the 60K
mile tune up fix this or is there something
else that needs to be
done?
Thanks,
Michael
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 20:32:26
-0800
From: "Jim Berry" <
fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Softest Springs
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Schilberg,
Darren <
DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
>
They don't list spring rates because you get to make your own spring
>
rates with the kits. The Eibach Pro Kit, H&R, and one other one (at
1.75"
> of drop) all have different rates. And if you get
progressive springs then
> you can have to different spring rates in one
spring.
> The only kits you can't customize
as far as rates go are the coilover
> kits (Ground Control for
example).
Not so ---- the coil-over allows a drop of
up to 3+" [ not practical by the way]
and you can choose whatever rate Eibach
springs you want.
Jim
Berry
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Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 00:22:02
-0500
From: Bill Wagner <
wagner@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Exhaust leak UPDATE
If you look underneath the car where both
pipes are coming out of the
front and back exhaust banks, the part they are
talking about is the
part that joins the two and then sends them down the
main exhaust pipe.
The reason it's so expensive is because it's comprised of
pipe, rubber
bellows as well as a metallic braid (that's why it's expensive,
but it
shouldn't be THAT expensive!).
In any case, I would get a photo
copy from the manual showing the
exhaust, verify beyond a doubt that that is
the part you need, and then
fax or jpeg it up and e-mail it to some junk
dealers. Chances are good
there are plenty of wrecked cars out there with
these pieces in good
condition. You might also try Tallahasee Mitsubishi
because they sell
3SI members prices at a substatial discount. By the way,
this is a VERY
easy part to replace unless you run into a busted bolt.
Good Luck,
Bill Wagner
The68th@aol.com wrote:
>
> Ok, I
just got a call back from the mechanic. They say that the pipe
>
cannot
> be welded. It is the bifold part(Whatever that is), and is
broken on
> the
> flex part? I have no clue what this
means. What is the technical
> name for
> the part if I were
to call the junk yard or something? Or can I just
> get a
>
performance part that would fit it and not have to pay factory prices?
>
> Thanks again
> Chris
> 1992 Dodge Stealth
ES
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Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 21:32:48
-0800 (PST)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Exhaust leak UPDATE
Of course..if anyone missed
it.
Ive got one for free.
San Jose, CA..come and get it.
On
Wed, 1 Nov 2000, Bill Wagner wrote:
> If you look underneath the car
where both pipes are coming out of the
> front and back exhaust banks, the
part they are talking about is the
> part that joins the two and then
sends them down the main exhaust pipe.
> The reason it's so expensive is
because it's comprised of pipe, rubber
> bellows as well as a metallic
braid (that's why it's expensive, but it
> shouldn't be THAT
expensive!).
>
> In any case, I would get a photo copy from the
manual showing the
> exhaust, verify beyond a doubt that that is the part
you need, and then
> fax or jpeg it up and e-mail it to some junk dealers.
Chances are good
> there are plenty of wrecked cars out there with these
pieces in good
> condition. You might also try Tallahasee Mitsubishi
because they sell
> 3SI members prices at a substatial discount. By the
way, this is a VERY
> easy part to replace unless you run into a busted
bolt.
>
> Good Luck,
>
> Bill Wagner
>
>
>
The68th@aol.com wrote:
>
>
> > Ok, I just got a call back from the mechanic. They say
that the pipe
> > cannot
> > be welded. It is the bifold
part(Whatever that is), and is broken on
> > the
> > flex
part? I have no clue what this means. What is the technical
>
> name for
> > the part if I were to call the junk yard or
something? Or can I just
> > get a
> > performance part
that would fit it and not have to pay factory prices?
> >
> >
Thanks again
> > Chris
> > 1992 Dodge Stealth ES
>
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Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 00:05:58
-0600
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <
mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Exhaust leak UPDATE
> Of course..if anyone missed
it.
> Ive got one for free.
> San Jose, CA..come and get
it.
The turbo downpipe won't fit a non-turbo car. The non-turbo
doesn't have
pre-cats and has a curved piece that goes up in the front and
mates with the
front exhaust manifold. I wouldn't be surprised if the
dimensions of the
overall pipe lengths going to the manifolds are different
as well.
Should be able to find one of those downpipes in a junkyard
somewhere
reasonably easily. Should be able to use one off any base
model 3/S for
sure, and the ones for SL/RT are a "maybe". The service
manuals don't make
a distinction between base/ES and SL/RT but do make
distinctions between
non-turbo and turbo.
- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder
VR4
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Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 09:03:39
+0200
From: "Oleg-Telia" <
Oleg@telia.lv>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Snow
Tires on 94 Stealth TT/AWD - Michelin Pilot Alpins ? 215/55/16 on 16 X 7 steel
wheels ?
I rekomend Bridgestone Blizzak 225/50/R17 as snow
tires
Oleg
3SI#0441
> Hi all,
>
> I'm new to the
Team3S list but may have spoken with some of you
> on the Starnet list
back in 1996.
>
> Back in 96 there seemed to be only two snow tires
for the car:
> the Dodge recommended Goodyear Eagle M+S and a Pirelli.
They were both
> about $300 Canadian ($200 US) each and no inexpensive
wheels were
available.
> OEM wheels from Chrysler were about $300
Canadian.
>
> Since they weren't "true" snow tires and they would
have cost some
> $1400 Canadian with taxes without wheels or $2800 with
new wheels, and
since
> I don't drive the TT too much, especially in
bad weather, I decided not to
> bother.
>
> Even with the
245/45/ZR-17 OEM Goodyear GSC "frozen hockey pucks", here in
> Ottawa,
Canada, the AWD made the Stealth so much better than my previous
87
>
Mustang GT
> with 225/60/15s in winter that I was content. Even during the
ice storm a
> few years ago
> during which I drove every day, there
was only 1 day when I was nervous...
> driving VERY
> carefully on
pure ice on the 417 highway at 20-30 km/h (12-20 mph) when
> most were
doing
> 10-20 km/h (6-12 mph).
>
>
> Flash forward 4 1/2
years to the present and there seems to be a lot more
> variety
>
for performance snow tires: Michelin, Bridgestone, Dunlop and Yokahama
now
> make snow tires
> in 16", 17" and even some 18" sizes. Also,
my local tire guy (Frisby Tire)
> tells me he can
> now get 16" x 7"
steel wheels that should (hopefully?) fit the TT even
with
> the bigger
94+
> brake rotors, and they are only $70 Canadian ($45 US)
each.
>
> So, I could get 4 Michelin Pilot Alpin's 215/55/16 on 16 x
7 steel wheels
> for about
> $1200 Canadian ($800 US) all taxes (7%
GST and 8% PST) included. I'm
> tempted to go this route
> for snow
traction and economic reasons.
>
> Or I could get 4 Michelin Pilot
Alpin's 235/45/17 on the current OEM
> wheels for about
> $1300
Canadian ($860 US) or possibly on 17" steel wheels for maybe $1650
>
Canadian ($1100 US).
> Wonder if the $450 extra for 17" tires and steel
wheels would buy me much
> better dry handling
> to be worth it for
the 4 1/2 months per year they are on ?
>
>
> Any thoughts on
the Pilot Alpin's ? I don't drive like a maniac very
> often, rarely go
over
> 85 mph (did 140 mph once) and have only heard noise from my
Goodyear Eagle
> GSCs when they were
> misaligned; never made them
squeal due to cornering, accelleration or
> braking. So I don't
need
> outright performance, but appreciate a quiet, soft, yet OEM sporty
feel.
>
> I want decent cold and winter performance over snow and
ice on those 20%
> of winter days
> we might have snow or ice, but I
don't want squirm or fast tread wear. I
> also want a reasonably
>
economical and common tire that might be found on a Saturday in
Timbuktoo
> should a tire need
> replacing on a road
trip.
>
>
> Can anyone relate their thoughts/experiences with
16" or 17" steel wheels
> on a TT/AWD ?
> A 92 owners manual
mentions using 16" wheels and 225/55/16 tires on 16 x 8
> JJ wheels when
using
> chains but recommends 235/45/17 Goodyear M+S's without
chains.
>
>
> Thanks for any feedback,
>
Mike.
>
>
> Black 1994 Dodge Stealth RT/TT/AWD/ECS.
>
HKS Super Power Flo air filter (w/ 4 years of dust mod).
> HKS Exhaust
(and stock BOV goose honk w/ 0.1 - 0.2 bar boost mod).
> Occasional 1-2
synchro crunch mod since 96 - no better, no worse.
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 09:27:01
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From: Roger Gerl <
roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Snow Tires on 94 Stealth TT/AWD
No steel wheels fit our cars
and it is definitely not recommended !!!
For the snow tires we have
any 16,17,18" winter tires here in Europe for
many, many years , or how
would the proms come to St.Moritz with their
large Merc,BMW or Porsches
;-)
I had some Dunlops 225/50-17 on the stock wheels for two years, then
I
moved to the Continental Winter Sport Contact 235/45-17 again on the stock
wheels. They are good for speeds to 210km/h what is the max for winter
tires. I even had them on the car when I have been on the dyno, hehe. Since
years this is the most perfect tire I drove, quiet, lasts long and ice and
snow traction is brilliant. I highly recommend them and use them now too on
the Audi A8.
The Michelins have also been tested in the Alps last
month and tehy are
good as well but I don't have any experience with
them.
Roger, Switzerland
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.chAt 19:46 31.10.2000 -0500,
Michael Reid wrote:
>Hi
all,
>
> I'm new to
the Team3S list but may have spoken with some of you
>on the Starnet list
back in 1996.
>
>
Back in 96 there seemed to be only two snow tires for the car:
>the Dodge
recommended Goodyear Eagle M+S and a Pirelli. They were both
>about $300
Canadian ($200 US) each and no inexpensive wheels were available.
>OEM
wheels from Chrysler were about $300
Canadian.
>
> Since
they weren't "true" snow tires and they would have cost some
>$1400
Canadian with taxes without wheels or $2800 with new wheels, and since
>I
don't drive the TT too much, especially in bad weather, I decided not
to
>bother.
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Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 08:09:07
-0500
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <
DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Softest Springs
Jim,
Good catch ... I
meant to say that the coilovers typically do not come
with progressive
springs (since the coilover design is more like stacking
two springs on top
of each other). You can specify the rate but it is
fixed. A
standard Eibach Pro-Kit for example can be a single spring rate
or
progressive.
I basically want to copy the ECS system sine
I don't have it and make an
adjustable height control (coilover), adjustable
shocks (GAB), and
progressive rates so city driving is not so rough (aka Tour
mode). :-)
- --Flash!
dschilberg@freemarkets.com3Si
#577
1995 Black VR-4 w/ K&N FIPK and a custom spark plug plate
http://www.ec3s.org/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi-
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Berry [
mailto:fastmax@home.com]
Sent: Tuesday,
October 31, 2000 11:32 PM
To: Schilberg, Darren; 'Trent'; Team 3S
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Softest Springs
- ----- Original Message -----
From:
Schilberg, Darren <
DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
>
They don't list spring rates because you get to make your own spring
>
rates with the kits. The Eibach Pro Kit, H&R, and one other one (at
1.75"
> of drop) all have different rates. And if you get
progressive springs
then
> you can have to different spring rates in
one spring.
> The only kits you can't
customize as far as rates go are the coilover
> kits (Ground Control for
example).
Not so ---- the coil-over allows a drop of
up to 3+" [ not practical by the
way]
and you can choose whatever rate
Eibach springs you want.
Jim
Berry
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Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 06:19:54
-0800 (PST)
From: Jeff Lucius <
stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Exhaust leak UPDATE
Chris,
Once you identify the part
(the $35 Manual on CD and the free Team3S
CAPS software can help with this),
you can check with the Mitsu
dealers I list on the Garage Page at my web site
or the used-parts
yards I list on the same page.
The CAPS programs
describes the downpipe as:
For
AWD: Pipe, Exhaust,
FR; Part #MR127473
For SOHC FWD 5M/T: Pipe, Exhaust, FR; Part
#MR126660
For DOHC FWD 5M/T: Pipe, Exhaust, FR; Part #MR651620
Now for
all I know these are not the exact part numbers you need plus
they actually
may be the same part so interchangeable. It is best to
check with your
mechanic for the exact part that needs replaced, then
check with a Mitsu
dealer for the part number for your car if you
need that. Shop around for the
best price.
Jeff Lucius, 3SI #476
-->
http://www.stealth316.com/- -----
Original Message -----
From:
The68th@aol.com To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st Sent:
Tuesday, October 31, 2000 2:02 PM
Subject: Team3S: Exhaust leak
UPDATE
Ok, I just got a call back from the mechanic. They say that
the pipe
cannot be welded. It is the bifold part(Whatever that is), and
is
broken on the flex part? I have no clue what this means. What
is
the technical name for the part if I were to call the junk yard
or
something? Or can I just get a performance part that would fit
it
and not have to pay factory prices?
Thanks again
Chris
1992
Dodge Stealth ES
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Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 08:23:09
CST
From: "Curt Gendron" <
curt_gendron@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: plugs and plugwires
Actually, you can buy the stock NGK plugs
(PFR6J11) from CarParts. With the
33% off coupon I have, this makes
the plugs only $7.85 a piece. Just search
for the part number on the
CarParts webpage. To use the discount coupon, go
to:
http://www.mn3s.org/car-parts.htmlFYI..
Only put the NGKs in your twin turbo. You'll regret putting Bosch,
or
any other brand in.
later,
Curt
http://www.mn3s.org>From: "Michael
D. Crose" <
ncsu4me@hotmail.com>
>To:
GREEN3000GTO@aol.com>CC:
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>Subject:
Re: Team3S: plugs and plugwires
>Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 23:09:24
EST
>
>Use the NGK plugs, the extra money is worth it. This
info is for the turbo
>models:
>Spark plug wires MD156560 1 Set
53.26 Norco Mitsubishi
>NGK Spark Plugs
PFR6J11 6 Plugs 68.12 Advance
Auto
>
>The price for the wires is with the 3si 20% discount at
Norco
>Mitsubishi(1-888-689-1788 ask for Paul.)
>
>Hope this
helps,
>Michael
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Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2000 09:43:47
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From:
GREEN3000GTO@aol.comSubject: Team3S:
re plugs & plugwires
Thanks everyone for all of your advices. So I
guess sense my car is none
turbo (94 sl) it is best
to use the Bosch 4+ Platium plugs. Does everyone
agree.
Thank
you.
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Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2000 10:05:19
-0500
From: Michael Reid <
mreidis@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Snow Tires on 94 Stealth TT/AWD
Hi Roger,
thanks for your
feedback.
At 09:27 AM 11/1/2000 +0100, Roger Gerl wrote:
>No
steel wheels fit our cars and it is definitely not recommended
!!!
Well that's what I've heard in the past from everywhere, including my
tire
dealer, but now he claims his book shows that they have a 16" steel
wheel
for my 94 TT. I'd be willing to try them out to see if they fit with
no
problems. If they don't fit I'll go with the 235/45/17's on the OEM
wheels.
What do you mean by not recommended ? Not safe to drive ? Not
able to give
the performance of 17" wheels/tires ? Or could cause something
to break ?
I don't care that much about ultimate dry
performance.
Mike.
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