team3s            Monday, October 30 2000            Volume 01 : Number 310




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Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 05:01:29 +0100
From: "Roger Gerl \(RTEC\)" <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: TMO Datalogger on 94-95, OBDI/II???

> I was wondering if any of you guys know of anywhere where I can obtain
some
> tables of conversion factors between the VOLTAGE VARIANCE on each wire
(eg.
> going into/out of the ECU) and a readable and meaningful signal for us
such
> as SPEED, RPM, BOOST etc...  There must be such a table that is probably
> standard across the board, because APEXI was able to make our AVC-R boost
> controllers read all those signals and give them a numerical value that is
> meaningful to us.

First, everything should be foudn i nthe manual. Second, no, Apexi cannot
read all those signals ! There are only a few and this standard.

> If we had a table like this, my brother, John, could probably make a
> different program for our 2nd gen cars (that would take the signal from
the
> OBDII connector, pass it through a serial port, convert the voltages to
> meaningful signals, and reccord them allong with a time signature).

Sorry, but such programs already exist !

> >'91-'93 DRB II, the TMO works with this
> >'94-'95 Some hybrid protocol, but uses an OBD II connector
> >late '95+ OBD II, there are numerous tools, but none have Knock Sum
> readings like the TMO

The knock sum is calculated by using special programming techniques that
allows the Microcontroller free register to be programmed. It's the secret
from Todd Day how he did it :)  This is not possible in OBDII, i.e. the
microcontroller doesn't accept those commands anymore, therefore no chance.
Also to start with the TMO is not a good idea as it is made for the DSM cars
and not for ours (it just works halfway on ours).

Well, good luck ... I stopped with this project a year ago because it was
hopeless to get knock sum out.

Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch


> >
> I do not know which program my brother will be able to use best, but if he
> has all 3, then he can make his own judgement call.
>
> Thanks to all that are as eager to solve this as I am.
>
>
>
> -MIKE-           aa2345@wayne.edu
> 95 Red VR4
> Apexi AVC-R Electronic Boost Controller
> K&N FIPK, Boost Gauge, EGT Meter
>
>
> John, brother    iraicu@cs.wayne.edu
> 94 Pearl Yellow TT
> Apexi AVC-R Electronic Boost Controller
> K&N FIPK, Boost Gauge, EGT Meter
> G Teck 0-60 (4.9 sec) Top speed after mods 169 mph
>
>
>
>
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Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 04:50:38 +0100
From: "Roger Gerl \(RTEC\)" <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Radio Din size

> that Blitz makes a DIN size panel that holds a 42mm guage and two 1/4 din

Look at my page under www.rtec.ch and go to the cars side under Blitz DSBC
installation

Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch


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Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 01:14:02 -0500
From: "Brad Bedell" <bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject: Team3S: 1992 Silver VR4 for sale

Asking $11,500obo
I will also consider a trade/partial trade for a truck/SUV of less, equal or
greater value.
1992
Motor replaced at 59k miles (timing belt broke, covered under warranty)
Transmission changed at 53k miles (warranty)
Rare silver color
95 18" wheels with new tires (~2k miles)
94+ Brakes
New heater core
New defroster vents
New spark plugs & Magnacore wires
Apexi air intake
New Antenna mast
Leather in good shape, only one small place on the drivers seat.
Active exhaust works
Active aero works(front hangs down occasionally)

Additional notes:
I purchased this car used, changed the carpet, cleaned the car and have
spent countless hours restoring the car.
The clutch is slipping as of now, I can change the clutch or discount the
price of the car. (Buyer will have a choice of a RPS clutch or a Stock
replacement)
To my knowledge, the timing belt has not been done the second time around. I
can do the belt, or discount the car.

This car is in Austin TX, I will ship it, but buyer will have to arrange
everything.
Currently the car has ground control springs on it, it rides very stiff. I
will be reinstalling the stock springs on the car. (add 350.00 to selling
price if you want the springs)
Known issues with the car:
Fuel filter needs to be changed (unknown last change)
Tranny, diff, transfer case fluids need changed (unknown last change)
Stock Radio doesn't work (has a custom sound system now, but won't sell with
the car) I will be happy to do a basic install of a radio, if you provide
the radio.

Please email me directly as I don't spent much time reading the posts. I can
supply pictures of the car for interested buyers.
bbedell@austin.rr.com
Reason for selling:  I have a 95 VR4 spyder now.

Brad
Check out my home page: http://home.austin.rr.com/overboost/
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Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 18:31:11 -0000
From: "George Shaw" <george.shaw@btinternet.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Tour Light On Now:Does This Affect Suspension?

The UK spec cars don't seam to show the Tour light but do show the sport
light.

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- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: 29 October 2000 01:23
To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: Team3S: Tour Light On Now:Does This Affect Suspension?

Hello guys,
It has been a while since I wrote/followed the list so I apologize if
this was covered recently.    I have a '94 3000gt SL and the sport
mode light has always come on when I hit the ECS switch.    The
ride was noticeably "stiffer" and "bouncier" on these Houston
ratty roads.   But, when I turn the ECS switch to non-sport mode or
tour mode, the green "tour" light in the lower left corner of the dash
has NEVER come on.


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Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 13:20:39 -0800 (PST)
From: George Kuo <amkreadgto@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S: Attn: AutoX/Road racers..

What's your opinon on putting race tires in the fronts
and street tires in the rear?

Since our cars have more problem with under steer..

Thanks,
George

p.s. got a spare set of 2nd gen/spyder rims this
weekend!! =) ... one step closer..

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Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 17:41:45 -0800
From: "Nickolaos M. Sgouros" <atenag@coqui.net>
Subject: Team3S: ECS & ECS LIGHTS ARE GONE!

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Dear friends
I need some of your experience regarding my ECS. The Sport Tour lights are
gone and the suspension is not responding. Did someone know if the ECS unit
is fused? And if yes then when the fuse is located?  Looked at me ALLDATA CD
ROM  but I haven’t found the solution.

Thank for your response
Nikos the Greek
92' RT TT
Puerto Rico


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Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 18:50:03 -0500
From: ukyo@avana.net
Subject: Team3S: '97 SOHC to 200+ hp?

List,

I have been looking around the internet to find out
just what I need to do in order to get my '97 base
coupe over 200hp.  I'm trying to hit 200hp + so
hopefully my current car will tide me over until I pay
it off and then am able to get a VR4.  These are the
mods I am looking at right now to reach my goal. 
Please let me know if A)they will make 200+ hp or B)
what else I need to reach this goal.  Bear in mind I am
trying to do this for as little money as possible...

K&N FIPK (already installed)
Port and polish intake
Free flow custom exhaust with precats removed and a
free flow main cat split to true dual exhaust in the
rear.
93 octane pump gas (already "installed")
Octane booster fuel additive (???)

Would this help me to reach or surpass the 200hp mark? 
What else could I do that would be relatively
inexpensive to get a little more spunk from my SOHC
base 3000GT?  Any help would be appreciated.

- --Travis
'97 3000GT (Base + K&N FIPK sans Resonator Bottle / Red)


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Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 19:04:40 -0500
From: "Trent" <bdtrent@netzero.net>
Subject: Team3S: Helmet Requirements

Do any of our regular club racers know what the minimum requirements are for
helmets?  Is Snell 95 sufficient, or do I need an additional fireproof
certification?

Thanks in advance,
DaveT/92TT


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Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 16:37:39 -0800
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Helmet Requirements

Dave

It depends on the organization, but most seem to accept Snell 95 with an SA
rating. The SA  calls for a nomex liner as opposed to the M rating which is
for motorcycles and is usually an nylon material.

        Jim Berry
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- ----- Original Message -----
From: Trent <bdtrent@netzero.net>

> Do any of our regular club racers know what the minimum requirements are for
> helmets?  Is Snell 95 sufficient, or do I need an additional fireproof
> certification?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> DaveT/92TT
>



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Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 18:35:21 -0600
From: "Brad Bedell" <bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Helmet Requirements

Depends on the club.  Most don't "require" anything but snell 95.

If you go to some of the faster events, I'd want something with a nomex
liner.


Brad
Check out my home page: http://home.austin.rr.com/overboost/
E-Mail: bbedell@austin.rr.com ICQ#  3612682

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Trent
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2000 6:05 PM
To: Team 3S
Subject: Team3S: Helmet Requirements

Do any of our regular club racers know what the minimum requirements are for
helmets?  Is Snell 95 sufficient, or do I need an additional fireproof
certification?

Thanks in advance,
DaveT/92TT


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Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 08:57:37 -0800
From: "Nickolaos M. Sgouros" <atenag@coqui.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Tour Light On Now:Does This Affect Suspension?

Just check the bulb. To check if the suspension is working, turn the key On
without to start the engine. The ECS automatically  goes to TOUR mode. Then
press the ECS mode sw and you can listen the actuators adjusting the
absorbers to the Sport mode. If the SPORT TOUR indication is not flashing
then you have not alarm of malfunction.

Nikos the Greek
92' RT TT
Puerto Rico

 -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]  On Behalf Of Bob
Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2000 5:23 PM
To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: Team3S: Tour Light On Now:Does This Affect Suspension?

Hello guys,
It has been a while since I wrote/followed the list so I apologize if
this was covered recently.    I have a '94 3000gt SL and the sport
mode light has always come on when I hit the ECS switch.    The
ride was noticeably "stiffer" and "bouncier" on these Houston
ratty roads.   But, when I turn the ECS switch to non-sport mode or
tour mode, the green "tour" light in the lower left corner of the dash
has NEVER come on.   Well, today (after having the car for
25,000 miles) I noticed it stayed on (with or without headlights on).
Apparently it is supposed to stay on normally, I didn't even know
there was such a light.   My question is, did this affect the driving
in tour mode when the tour light was not on?  I.E. it "seems" to be
a more pleasent ride, i.e. maybe a bit better handling and takes
the bumps smoother.   Is this just my imagination?    Do I assume
I have a loose bulb on the tour end (wouldn't it be the same bulb
as the sport mode which always works in that mode?) or is there
really something wrong with the suspension?  The Mitsu dealer
that checked out the suspension about a year ago said everything
was working fine but he never noticed nor mentioned a tour
light.   Thanks ahead of time for all comments (I have the Digest
version).   Bob




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