team3s           Saturday, October 28 2000           Volume 01 : Number 309




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Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 14:32:00 EST
From: "Rick H." <tt_3kgt@hotmail.com>
Subject: Team3S: Radio Din size

List,

  I am looking to remove my stock radio from my 93 3000GT VR4.  I want to
put a single din radio in the slot and probably just use a kit from Wal-Mart
to make the installation look a lttle better. My question is that I seen
that Blitz makes a DIN size panel that holds a 42mm guage and two 1/4 din
controllers. Has anyone else ever used this or had experience with it. I am
looking to put a boost controller and turbo timer in those spots and I am
just curious. Thanks for the help! Anyone got pictures of there
installation?

Rick-
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Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 12:41:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Lucius <stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Fluids - Redline?

Hi Rick,

It's not a FAQ or directly about flushing but you might find my web
page interesting.
http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius/2-awddrainfill.htm

If you want to learn more about the whole AWD system you might take a
look at this web page.
http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius/2-AWD.htm

Jeff Lucius, 3SI #476
  --> http://www.stealth316.com/

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From: "Rick H." <tt_3kgt@hotmail.com>
To: <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 1:08 PM
Subject: Team3S: Fluids - Redline?

List,

  I am looking to flush out my diff, tranny, and gearbox this month
with a aftermarket fluid. In the past, in previous vehicals, I have
used Royal Purple synthetic or Redline. I am not familiar with these
cars and would like to get an opinion from everyone on past
experience, etc. Thanks for all the info!

  Is there a FAQ or instruction for flushing fluids from these
pieces?

Rick
93 3KGT VR4

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Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 18:29:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: aa2345@wayne.edu
Subject: Team3S: TMO Datalogger for 2nd gen?

Hello Everybody,

I noticed that there isn't a TMO Datalogger for the 2nd gen cars.  I
really do not understand why.  Has anyone tried to make the software work
with the signal from the plug between the steering wheel and the radio?
My brother John is a computer programmer and is currently doing his
masters in Computer Science (High Speed Networking), so he knows his stuff
pretty good.  He was thinking of making a program to accept the signals to
a serial port and then to reccord everything that comes in.  All we would
probably need is some conversion tables between the different VOLTAGES and
SPEED, BOOST, INJECTOR, O2, RPM, etc...

However, before venturing out and designing something from scratch, I was
thinking that he could use the TMO DATALOGGER software as a starting
point.  Who knows, maybe he can decompile it and he doesn't have to design
an entirely new program. 

This is an old problem, that as far as I know, nobody solved for the 2nd
gen cars.  If someone did it, please let me know.  Whoever broke any
ground on this issue, please let me and the list know, and maybe together
we can figure something out for the benefit of all.

Can anybody give me the TMO software?  If you are worried about
copyrights, e-mail me privately, and if you put it up at an address
disclosed only to me/a few select people, then maybe we can work it out
that way (provided it is a manageable size).  My brother has a high speed
internet connection as long as you can upload it somewhere.

Thanks a million, and maybe we can solve this issue.

- -MIKE-
95 Red VR4
Apexi AVC-R

John
94 Pearl Yellow TT
Apexi AVC-R


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Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 01:17:05 -0400
From: "Mihai Raicu" <aa2345@wayne.edu>
Subject: Team3S: TMO Datalogger on 94-95, OBDI/II???

Hello Team,

As some of you already know, Ken Middaugh and Jeff (Spyder VR4) are
currently working on getting the TMO DATALOGGER software to work with the
2nd gen cars.

I was wondering if any of you guys know of anywhere where I can obtain some
tables of conversion factors between the VOLTAGE VARIANCE on each wire (eg.
going into/out of the ECU) and a readable and meaningful signal for us such
as SPEED, RPM, BOOST etc...  There must be such a table that is probably
standard across the board, because APEXI was able to make our AVC-R boost
controllers read all those signals and give them a numerical value that is
meaningful to us.  It's true that there were a few settings to program the
unit (6 cylinders, throttle position...) but it seems like there should be a
standard conversion table for all V6 Japanese engines.

If we had a table like this, my brother, John, could probably make a
different program for our 2nd gen cars (that would take the signal from the
OBDII connector, pass it through a serial port, convert the voltages to
meaningful signals, and reccord them allong with a time signature).

But maybe he can disect/decompile the DATALOGGER program, if anybody has it
and is willing to give it to him.  He has an FTP account that he is going to
change the password temporarily to allow people to FTP the program to him if
they wish to do so.  If you have any software that you think might be useful
to us and you have the means of FTP'ing, please let me or John know.

Ken Middaugh brought it to my attention that there are 3 protocols in use:
>
>'91-'93 DRB II, the TMO works with this
>'94-'95 Some hybrid protocol, but uses an OBD II connector
>late '95+ OBD II, there are numerous tools, but none have Knock Sum
readings like the TMO
>
I do not know which program my brother will be able to use best, but if he
has all 3, then he can make his own judgement call.

Thanks to all that are as eager to solve this as I am.



- -MIKE-           aa2345@wayne.edu
95 Red VR4
Apexi AVC-R Electronic Boost Controller
K&N FIPK, Boost Gauge, EGT Meter


John, brother    iraicu@cs.wayne.edu
94 Pearl Yellow TT
Apexi AVC-R Electronic Boost Controller
K&N FIPK, Boost Gauge, EGT Meter
G Teck 0-60 (4.9 sec) Top speed after mods 169 mph




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Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 03:53:33 EDT
From: COMETOTHEZOO@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Pressure tester how to

Here is the 3/S and DSM pressure tester page, with photos and descriptions on
assembling and testing your boost system:

http://www.ecanfix.com/~amit/

94 3000 VR4
http://hometown.aol.com/cometothezoo/
Mike Murray

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Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 20:22:40 -0500
From: Bob <r4381576@earthlink.net>
Subject: Team3S: Tour Light On Now:Does This Affect Suspension?

Hello guys,
It has been a while since I wrote/followed the list so I apologize if
this was covered recently.    I have a '94 3000gt SL and the sport
mode light has always come on when I hit the ECS switch.    The
ride was noticeably "stiffer" and "bouncier" on these Houston
ratty roads.   But, when I turn the ECS switch to non-sport mode or
tour mode, the green "tour" light in the lower left corner of the dash
has NEVER come on.   Well, today (after having the car for
25,000 miles) I noticed it stayed on (with or without headlights on).
Apparently it is supposed to stay on normally, I didn't even know
there was such a light.   My question is, did this affect the driving
in tour mode when the tour light was not on?  I.E. it "seems" to be
a more pleasent ride, i.e. maybe a bit better handling and takes
the bumps smoother.   Is this just my imagination?    Do I assume
I have a loose bulb on the tour end (wouldn't it be the same bulb
as the sport mode which always works in that mode?) or is there
really something wrong with the suspension?  The Mitsu dealer
that checked out the suspension about a year ago said everything
was working fine but he never noticed nor mentioned a tour
light.   Thanks ahead of time for all comments (I have the Digest
version).   Bob




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