team3s
Friday, October 13
2000 Volume 01
: Number
293
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Date:
Thu, 12 Oct 2000 23:29:13 -0500
From: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Brembo rotors
At 06:18 AM 10/12/00 -0700, Richard
wrote:
>Missed the previous post but rotors sizes are different in pre93
and
>post 93 GTs 296x30 on my pre93 and 314x30 on yours. Also bolt holes
etc.
>are different. So no direct bolt on possible without some
modifications.
>I assume you were talking about rotors too?
>
1st
gen and 2nd gen have different size rotors as far as I know.
Rich
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 07:31:56
GMT
From: "marc augellli" <
marcsaugelli@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Free White
Hi Everyone,
I was looking at the ebay site to
see what people our selling for the 3000
gt and I went to see a feedback
profile about about a person and I came
across an item he was selling. It
was homemade white face gauges for cars.
Has anybody ever done this or heard
about this? the link is:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=432208593It
seems very easy, I was thinking of just taking them off of my car and
scanning them. Then used photo paper to print it out. The only thing is how
will the light come thur it when driving at night? Any idea's?
Thanks
Guys for any info or any idea's on doing this project,
Marc Augelli 94
red SL
35,000
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:44:11
+0200
From: Roger Gerl <
roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Free White
>It seems very easy, I was thinking of just
taking them off of my car and
>scanning them. Then used photo paper to
print it out. The only thing is
>how will the light come thur it when
driving at night? Any idea's?
>Thanks Guys for any info or any idea's on
doing this project,
Yes, some of us have already done this (called
overlays). But first, taking
them out/in is a PITA and then what do you do
with the different
temperatures, humidity and, and. Paper is just not that
resistant to our
ambient than plastic or metal.
Roger
93'3000GT
TT
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 10:52:13
+0200
From: Roger Gerl <
roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject:
Team3S: Little Off topic : Camaro LS1 TwinTurbo
Here are some pics from
an f-body buddy who installed a twin turbo system
on his LS1... will be
pretty damn quick that baby :)
Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.chhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000566.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000567.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000568.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000569.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000570.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000571.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000572.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000573.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000574.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000575.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000576.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000577.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000578.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000579.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000580.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000581.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000582.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000583.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000584.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000585.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000586.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000587.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000588.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000589.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000590.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000591.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000592.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000593.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000594.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000595.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000596.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000597.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000598.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000599.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000600.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000601.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000602.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000603.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000604.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000605.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000606.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000607.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000608.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000609.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000610.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000611.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000612.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000613.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000614.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000615.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000616.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000617.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000618.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000619.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000620.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000621.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000622.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000623.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000624.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000625.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000626.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000627.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000628.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000629.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000630.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000631.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000632.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000633.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000634.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000635.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000636.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000637.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000638.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000639.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000640.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000641.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000642.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000643.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000644.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000645.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000646.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000647.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000648.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000649.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000650.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000651.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000652.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000653.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000654.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000655.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000656.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000657.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000658.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000659.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000660.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000661.JPGhttp://www.jacksonville.net/~eboggs/P1000662.JPG***
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 08:25:44
-0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Brake summary (long), was: Brake Kit Discount Availab le
You
don't think crossdrilling helps cooling? Even if you don't
consider
improved convection cooling through the holes in each vent, you
still have
more surface area for radiative cooling from the rotor.
What about the claims of better "bite" of the pads with
crossdrilling?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Berry
[
SMTP:fastmax@home.com]
> Sent:
Thursday, October 12, 2000 8:09 PM
> To: Ken Middaugh; Merritt
> Cc:
stealth_d@starnet.net;
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Brake summary (long), was: Brake Kit Discount
>
Available
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
Ken Middaugh <
Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
>
To: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
>
>
>
> > > 2. The Porterfield cryogenically treated rotors
seem to be the best
> buy for
> > > the buck.
>
>
>
>
> > For 1 piece steel rotors, I agree.
>
>
>
> I've said this a couple of times in the past ---
porterfield will make
> custom hats [ about
> $300 each ] and damn
near any rotor configuration you want. The rotors
> were about
>
$110 plus $40 for cryo treatment.
>
> I still remain unconvinced
that cross drilled or slotted rotors provide
> any advantage for
>
us, even at open track events. The purpose of the slots/holes is to
allow
> gasses to escape
> under heavy braking, the main problem
with our cars is overheating and
> burning up pads
> or boiling
brake fluid. If you want to spend money, do it on cooling
> goodies
[Merrit style],
> air ducts, fans, water, and wheels with open spokes.
Once a certain level
> of performance
> is achieved, additional
efforts to shorten stopping distance are a waste
> of money. At
this
> point cooling the brakes should be your priority.
>
> Jim Berry
>>> 93 stealth TT
---- "arrest me
red"
>
K&N FIPK -- Magnicore/.034" --- Blitz
SSBC
>
--- GAB struts --- Stillen SS lines
---
>
GC/Eibach 600# F/350# R --- GC caster/camber
plate
>
Yokohama AVS sport
255x40x17
>
Porsche/Brembo [ big red ] brakes --- Porterfield
> 315mm
rotors
>
Roadrace engineering rear strut
tower
>
Gtech --- 0-60 = 4.75 -- 1/4 = 13.3 @ 110 mph
>
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 08:42:29
-0500
From: "cody" <
overclck@flash.net>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Free White
It is much easier to make them clear.
Check
out my car under
www.3kgt.com go to Pictures,
then Readers Rides 1 and
look for Cody Graham - Top car.
Click on the
pic and you can see my custom CLEAR Gauges...
- -Cody
-
-----Original Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st[
mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of Roger Gerl
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 2:44 AM
To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
Re: Team3S: Free White
>It seems very easy, I was thinking of
just taking them off of my car and
>scanning them. Then used photo paper
to print it out. The only thing is
>how will the light come thur it when
driving at night? Any idea's?
>Thanks Guys for any info or any idea's on
doing this project,
Yes, some of us have already done this (called
overlays). But first, taking
them out/in is a PITA and then what do you do
with the different
temperatures, humidity and, and. Paper is just not that
resistant to our
ambient than plastic or metal.
Roger
93'3000GT
TT
www.rtec.ch***
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 10:07:29
-0400
From: Eric J Totten <
spankis@juno.com>
Subject: Team3S: fog
lights
This is probably a very simple task, BUT im completely new
to doing
anything on cars and cant figure it out.
How do you change the
bulb on a stock fog light. Me and a friend got
under the car and couldnt
figure it out.
Eric T.
'91 ES DOHC
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 08:12:14
-0700
From: "Bart Kurek" <
bart_kurek@eli.net>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: fog lights
on a '97 SL the black plastic housing around the light
snaps off. if you
feel around with your fingers behind it you'll feel the
clips. doesn't
really feel like it'll come off but it does. i pulled mine
outwards and
angled towards the center of the car. after that there's several
screws that
hold the rest of the light together. my bulbs were H3. I
reccemond the APC's
over PIAA. Brighter and at least half the cost.
-
-Bart Kurek
Sales Engineer
Electric Lightwave Inc. (ELIX)
http://www.eli.netmailto:bart.kurek@eli.net-
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric J Totten" <
spankis@juno.com>
To: <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Friday, October 13, 2000 7:07 AM
Subject: Team3S: fog lights
>
This is probably a very simple task, BUT im completely new to doing
>
anything on cars and cant figure it out.
> How do you change the bulb on a
stock fog light. Me and a friend got
> under the car and couldnt figure it
out.
>
>
> Eric T.
> '91 ES DOHC
>
>
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 08:15:39
-0700
From: Ken Middaugh <
Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Brembo rotors
> Yes --- I have the Big Red setup with 1994
17" wheels on my 93 Stealth TT.
>
> I also put one of my 1993 17"
wheels to see if they would fit, they did but
> with about .010" clearance
on one side, in my opinion not enough
> clearance to race with.
Was
this clearance to the spokes, or the inside wheel diameter?
- --
Could you drive any better if I shoved that cell phone up your
a**?!
Ken Middaugh (858) 455-4510
General Atomics
San
Diego
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 10:36:46
-0500
From: "Willis, Charles E." <
cewillis@TexasChildrensHospital.org>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: fog lights
Fog light design on the VR4 changed from '93 to
'94 from a cube to a
cylinder. On my '93, you have to take off the air
dam and can remove the
fog light assembly with three bolts. I just
replaced one unit to the tune
of $250 for the part. Now I tape mine up
at the track. Sorry, I didn't pay
attention to how to replace the lamp
inside.
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 12:00:15
-0400
From: "Dusan R. Simovic" <
dusanboy@ix.netcom.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: fog lights
Here is another question... I do't have fog lights
installed on my '92
Stealth. How do I go about installing them all
together?
Thanks!
Dusan
- ----- Original Message
-----
From: "Bart Kurek" <
bart_kurek@eli.net>
To: <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>; "Eric J
Totten" <
spankis@juno.com>
Sent:
Friday, October 13, 2000 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: fog
lights
> on a '97 SL the black plastic housing around the light
snaps off. if you
> feel around with your fingers behind it you'll feel
the clips. doesn't
> really feel like it'll come off but it does. i pulled
mine outwards and
> angled towards the center of the car. after that
there's several screws
that
> hold the rest of the light together. my
bulbs were H3. I reccemond the
APC's
> over PIAA. Brighter and at least
half the cost.
>
> -Bart Kurek
> Sales Engineer
>
Electric Lightwave Inc. (ELIX)
>
http://www.eli.net>
mailto:bart.kurek@eli.net>
>
>
----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric J Totten" <
spankis@juno.com>
> To: <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 7:07 AM
> Subject: Team3S: fog
lights
>
>
> > This is probably a very simple task, BUT im
completely new to doing
> > anything on cars and cant figure it
out.
> > How do you change the bulb on a stock fog light. Me and a
friend got
> > under the car and couldnt figure it out.
>
>
> >
> > Eric T.
> > '91 ES DOHC
>
>
> > *** Info:
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> >
>
>
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:22:00
-0700
From: Ken Middaugh <
Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
Subject:
Team3S: San Diego Gathering in 9 days
Hi folks,
The one day
gathering in San Diego is coming up on Sunday, Oct. 22. For
info,
please see
http://www7.50megs.com/w3sa/sandiego.html.
For
those of you coming, please email me ASAP so I can mail you a pass for
the
Car Corral.
Hope you can make it!
- --
Could you drive any
better if I shoved that cell phone up your a**?!
Ken Middaugh (858)
455-4510
General Atomics
San Diego
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 11:03:22
-0700
From: "Jim Berry" <
fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Brembo rotors
clearance was to the spokes --- and in all fairness it was
probably .020", but still
pretty damn
close.
Jim Berry
-
----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Middaugh <
Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
To:
Jim Berry <
fastmax@home.com>
>
>
> Yes --- I have the Big Red setup with 1994 17" wheels on my 93 Stealth
TT.
> >
> > I also put one of my 1993 17" wheels to see if
they would fit, they did but
> > with about .010" clearance on one
side, in my opinion not enough
> > clearance to race with.
>
> Was this clearance to the spokes, or the inside wheel
diameter?
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 11:12:28
-0700 (PDT)
From: George Kuo <
amkreadgto@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Brembo rotors
Maybe it's different with Stealth wheels.. but when
I
tried to put on a 1st gen VR4 wheel on the '94+
rotors, it wouldnt go on
at all.. the gating item was
the inside wheel diameter.. not the
spokes..
The 2nd gen (or Spyder) wheels did fit.
Hey Jim, you
going to the SD gathering? Whould love
to meet you in
person.
/george
- --- Jim Berry <
fastmax@home.com> wrote:
> clearance
was to the spokes --- and in all fairness
> it was probably .020", but
still
> pretty damn close.
>
> Jim Berry
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ken Middaugh
<
Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
>
To: Jim Berry <
fastmax@home.com>
>
> >
> > > Yes --- I have the Big Red setup with 1994 17"
> wheels
on my 93 Stealth TT.
> > >
> > > I also put one of my
1993 17" wheels to see if
> they would fit, they did but
> > >
with about .010" clearance on one side, in my
> opinion not enough
>
> > clearance to race with.
> >
> > Was this clearance
to the spokes, or the inside
> wheel diameter?
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 11:12:28
-0700 (PDT)
From: George Kuo <
amkreadgto@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Brembo rotors
Maybe it's different with Stealth wheels.. but when
I
tried to put on a 1st gen VR4 wheel on the '94+
rotors, it wouldnt go on
at all.. the gating item was
the inside wheel diameter.. not the
spokes..
The 2nd gen (or Spyder) wheels did fit.
Hey Jim, you
going to the SD gathering? Whould love
to meet you in
person.
/george
- --- Jim Berry <
fastmax@home.com> wrote:
> clearance
was to the spokes --- and in all fairness
> it was probably .020", but
still
> pretty damn close.
>
> Jim Berry
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ken Middaugh
<
Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
>
To: Jim Berry <
fastmax@home.com>
>
> >
> > > Yes --- I have the Big Red setup with 1994 17"
> wheels
on my 93 Stealth TT.
> > >
> > > I also put one of my
1993 17" wheels to see if
> they would fit, they did but
> > >
with about .010" clearance on one side, in my
> opinion not enough
>
> > clearance to race with.
> >
> > Was this clearance
to the spokes, or the inside
> wheel diameter?
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 17:25:52
-0000
From: "Sam Shelat" <
sshelat@erols.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Brake summary (long), was: Brake Kit DiscountAvailable
What about
the brackets to put them on the car?
Sam
- -----Original
Message-----
From: Richard <
radanc@home.com>
To: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>;
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st<
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Date:
Friday, October 13, 2000 1:12 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Brake summary (long),
was: Brake Kit DiscountAvailable
>I agree, but take a different
view of braking finances. I want to
>optimize my large pad surface area
and therefore need larger rotors then
>anything stock Porterfield would
make except venturing into a non-stock
>rotor which means customization
anyway. To get the 332x32 SA I think the
>Cast Porsches are unmatched. I
am willing to pay for the development
>costs. My solution to the rears are
is going to be a bit creative, but
>will be upgraded rotors and calipers,
right now probably stock fronts. A
>master cylinder upgrade will be
critical to making this combination
>effective. A 24 mm MC or around there
will be necessary. You can get
>kits with hats for the Porsche rotors, but
my post 93 Stealth dosn't
>have the bolt on kits available for the post-92
models. I am also
>willing to pay for the strong stuff. Which means 7075
aluminum. No
>cracked hats hear. All in all my kit which is a smorgasbord
includes
>F-40 calipers ($1050), Porsche rotors ($250), Machined 7075 hat
($600-
>done by local shop) = $1850
total.
>
>
>Rich
>92 Stealth TT
>
>Merritt
wrote:
>>
>> My summary of your
summary:
>>
>> 1. It's tough to beat Brad's Big Red
kit.
>> 2. The Porterfield cryogenically treated rotors seem to be the
best buy
for
>> the buck.
>> 3. The next upward step MIGHT
be to buy a two-piece Porsche rotor. (Does
>> anyone know if the
Porsche rotor will fit the Brad's conversion, or do
we
>> need
a new mounting bracket?)
>> 4. No one has improved our rear
brakes yet except for an extremely
>> expensive
kit.
>>
>> Correct me if I am wrong.
>>
>>
Rich/old poop
>>
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 17:27:11
-0000
From: "Sam Shelat" <
sshelat@erols.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Free White
Ask Hans Ertl on 3si.org. He has done it
already for all the gauges.
Sam
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From:
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To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Date:
Friday, October 13, 2000 7:32 AM
Subject: Team3S: Free
White
>Hi Everyone,
>
>I was looking at the ebay site
to see what people our selling for the 3000
>gt and I went to see a
feedback profile about about a person and I came
>across an item he was
selling. It was homemade white face gauges for cars.
>Has anybody ever
done this or heard about this? the link is:
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=432208593>
>It
seems very easy, I was thinking of just taking them off of my car
and
>scanning them. Then used photo paper to print it out. The only thing
is how
>will the light come thur it when driving at night? Any
idea's?
>Thanks Guys for any info or any idea's on doing this
project,
>
>Marc Augelli 94 red SL
35,000
>
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 14:27:38
-0700
From: "Bart Kurek" <
bart_kurek@eli.net>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Brake summary (long), was: Brake Kit DiscountAvailable
How these
breaks?
http://www.motorolacup.com/gallery10/pages/DSC00082_JPG.htm-
-Bart Kurek
Sales Engineer
Electric Lightwave Inc. (ELIX)
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sam Shelat" <
sshelat@erols.com>
To: "Richard"
<
radanc@home.com>; "Merritt" <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>;
<
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Friday, October 13, 2000 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Brake summary (long),
was: Brake Kit DiscountAvailable
> What about the brackets to put
them on the car?
>
> Sam
> -----Original Message-----
>
From: Richard <
radanc@home.com>
> To: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>;
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
<
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
Date: Friday, October 13, 2000 1:12 AM
> Subject: Re: Team3S: Brake
summary (long), was: Brake Kit
DiscountAvailable
>
>
>
>I agree, but take a different view of braking finances. I want to
>
>optimize my large pad surface area and therefore need larger rotors
then
> >anything stock Porterfield would make except venturing into a
non-stock
> >rotor which means customization anyway. To get the 332x32
SA I think the
> >Cast Porsches are unmatched. I am willing to pay for
the development
> >costs. My solution to the rears are is going to be a
bit creative, but
> >will be upgraded rotors and calipers, right now
probably stock fronts. A
> >master cylinder upgrade will be critical to
making this combination
> >effective. A 24 mm MC or around there will
be necessary. You can get
> >kits with hats for the Porsche rotors, but
my post 93 Stealth dosn't
> >have the bolt on kits available for the
post-92 models. I am also
> >willing to pay for the strong stuff. Which
means 7075 aluminum. No
> >cracked hats hear. All in all my kit which
is a smorgasbord includes
> >F-40 calipers ($1050), Porsche rotors
($250), Machined 7075 hat ($600-
> >done by local shop) = $1850
total.
> >
> >
> >Rich
> >92 Stealth
TT
> >
> >Merritt wrote:
> >>
> >> My
summary of your summary:
> >>
> >> 1. It's tough to beat
Brad's Big Red kit.
> >> 2. The Porterfield cryogenically treated
rotors seem to be the best buy
> for
> >> the buck.
>
>> 3. The next upward step MIGHT be to buy a two-piece Porsche
rotor.
(Does
> >> anyone know if the Porsche rotor will fit
the Brad's conversion, or do
> we
> >> need a new mounting
bracket?)
> >> 4. No one has improved our rear brakes yet
except for an extremely
> >> expensive kit.
> >>
>
>> Correct me if I am wrong.
> >>
> >> Rich/old
poop
> >>
> >> *** Info:
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> >
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 19:28:34
-0500
From: "Trent" <
bdtrent@netzero.net>
Subject:
Team3S: 91,92 Rotors
My 92 rotors are 296mm (just measured them).
There is little to no
additional room for larger rotors or calipers.
Assuming I upgrade my
wheels, are there any other limitations that anyone
else is aware of that
prevent me from upgrading to larger rotors and
calipers? Someone mentioned
that the rotor/wheel hole pattern is
different also, but this is hard to
confirm. Is there any reason to
think the caliper mounts are different? Is
there any relief for those
of us still driving the old dogs?
Regards,
Dave
T/92TT/13g's
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 18:03:07
-0700
From: "Jim Berry" <
fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
91,92 Rotors
There is no difference in the mounting of the calipers or
rotors or wheels
between the 1st and 2nd generation
cars.
Jim
Berry
=================================================
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From: Trent <
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> My 92
rotors are 296mm (just measured them). There is little to no
>
additional room for larger rotors or calipers. Assuming I upgrade
my
> wheels, are there any other limitations that anyone else is aware of
that
> prevent me from upgrading to larger rotors and calipers?
Someone mentioned
> that the rotor/wheel hole pattern is different also,
but this is hard to
> confirm. Is there any reason to think the
caliper mounts are different? Is
> there any relief for those of us
still driving the old dogs?
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 06:09:56
-0700
From: Richard <
radanc@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Brembo rotors
OK, hopefully this will put the 1st - 2nd gen rotor issue
to bed. These
are my sheet from Porterfield since I wanted to upgrade to the
2nd gen
rotors. My rotors dimensions are:
OD-296mm Height-45.2mm
Nominal thickness-30mm Min Thk-28.4 mm
Hub Hole-68.8 mm # mount holes-5 Hole
or stud size-0.500 bolt circle-
114.3 mm
93+ front rotor
specs
OD-314 mm Height-45.6mm Nominal thickness-30mm Min Thk-28.4mm
Hub
Hole-68.8mm mount holes-5 Hole or stud size-0.49 Bolt
circle-
108.01mm
Rich
92 Stealth TT
George Kuo wrote:
>
> Maybe it's different with Stealth wheels.. but when I
> tried to
put on a 1st gen VR4 wheel on the '94+
> rotors, it wouldnt go on at all..
the gating item was
> the inside wheel diameter.. not the spokes..
>
> The 2nd gen (or Spyder) wheels did fit.
>
> Hey Jim, you
going to the SD gathering? Whould love
> to meet you in
person.
>
> /george
> --- Jim Berry <
fastmax@home.com> wrote:
> >
clearance was to the spokes --- and in all fairness
> > it was probably
.020", but still
> > pretty damn close.
> >
>
> Jim Berry
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From:
Ken Middaugh <
Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
>
> To: Jim Berry <
fastmax@home.com>
> >
>
> >
> > > > Yes --- I have the Big Red setup with 1994
17"
> > wheels on my 93 Stealth TT.
> > > >
> >
> > I also put one of my 1993 17" wheels to see if
> > they would
fit, they did but
> > > > with about .010" clearance on one side,
in my
> > opinion not enough
> > > > clearance to race
with.
> > >
> > > Was this clearance to the spokes, or
the inside
> > wheel diameter?
> >
> >
>
>
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> >
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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 20:25:58
-0500
From: "Brad Bedell" <
bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: 91,92 Rotors
Bolt patterns are the same
Hub diameter is
the same
Caliper mounting point is the same.
Different on the later
cars:
Rotor larger in diameter
Caliper has longer mounting points to
accommodate the larger rotor.
As for wheels, you are probably correct,
you really need to get at least the
mitsubishi stock 17" wheels for the
clearance.
Brad
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From:
owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st[
mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of Trent
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2000 7:29 PM
To: Team
3S
Subject: Team3S: 91,92 Rotors
My 92 rotors are 296mm (just measured
them). There is little to no
additional room for larger rotors or
calipers. Assuming I upgrade my
wheels, are there any other limitations
that anyone else is aware of that
prevent me from upgrading to larger rotors
and calipers? Someone mentioned
that the rotor/wheel hole pattern is
different also, but this is hard to
confirm. Is there any reason to
think the caliper mounts are different? Is
there any relief for those
of us still driving the old dogs?
Regards,
Dave
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