team3s            Tuesday, October 10 2000            Volume 01 : Number 289




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Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 16:35:12 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Rotor Update

At 02:16 PM 10/9/00 -0700, Ken Middaugh wrote:
 
>Track tires will cost $520+ a set, but you will also need a set of wheels to
>mount them on.  Lots of folks are highly recommending the Kumho race tires

For the first year, I recommend Yokohama 032R tires. They wear like iron,
and you don't have to adjust the camber for them. They don't have quite the
same grip as the Kuhmos, but they will last twice as long. Excellent school
tire.
 
For
>wheels, the stock ones are sufficient but heavy and should cost $400+.  For
>aftermarket, you need forged racing wheels and those will be $1000+. 

I got a set from Tire Rack for about $200 each. Be careful what you buy,
because those real pretty street wheels won't last a New York minute on a
track. Can you say, "Crack, crack"? Tire Rack gives good advice.

>
>For camber, Merrit is real happy with -3 degrees.  If you want a daily
driver,
>then you will need to be able to adjust your camber at the track, so a set of
>front camber adjustment plates will be a good investment.  You can have an
>alignment shop make "street" and "track" marks on the adjustment plates, then
>you can change the camber at the track. 

I don't agree, but you are certainly welcome to try. Others do it. I
wouldn't do it.

>
>To increase the front track width, you will need longer racing wheel studs
and
>either wheel spacers OR a two-piece rotor with an extra thick facing.  Mohler
>suggests increasing each side by 3/4".  A wider front track is OK for a daily
>driver too.  Spacers and studs should be about $100.

Yeah, but where do you buy them? I've tried to track down studs with no luck.


 For two-piece rotors, talk
>to Terry Gosse at KVR, 800-636-0854.  He can make anything you want for a
very
>fair price.  Two-piece rotors should be about $700 and are also part of a
brake
>upgrades below.

Hey, Ken!  Give the guy a break!  He is a long way from $700 rotors.
Sheesh, I'm not even there yet.
>
>After you have made modifications to improve your corner exit speed, then you
>will want to upgrade your braking power.  To do this, you will need a kit
with
>aftermarket calipers and rotors (also caliper brackets, stainless steel
lines,
>racing fluid).  The best bang for the buck is Brad Bedells Porsche Big Red
>caliper upgrade with one-piece rotors at $1500. 

Good advice! Except Brad's kit does not include rotors.

Basically good advice, Ken. Seems like you west coast Internet millionaires
have a much bigger budget than I do.

Rich/old poop

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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 18:04:07 EDT
From: Zeoswolf@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Re:2nd gen headlight on a 1st gen

In a message dated 10/9/00 5:33:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
dusanboy@ix.netcom.com writes:

<< Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st >>

   Dusan,
   If you wanted to do this, the light conversion is simple.  What you have
to worry about is the hood.  You have two options, either shave down the 1st
gen hood to fit becuase the 2nd gen lights have a more curved shape to them. 
Or choice two, you need to get a 2nd gen hood.  Although you will compromise
the hood bonnets that people seem to love on the 1st gens.  Hope this
helps...  all in all, this might be pricey so I would think twice about it if
I were you.  Remember, the headlight assembly from the dealer is 375 a
side... then a hood.. possibly another couple hundred if you found it from a
junkyard then you have to paint it to match your car.  Just my thoughts.....
cheers!

james
94R/T

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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 18:11:25 -0400
From: "Dusan R. Simovic" <dusanboy@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re:2nd gen headlight on a 1st gen

Thanks James,
yeah, that does seem like a lot of money. I thought that the hood shape was
the same... damn it... anyhow, I better start saving for a newer VR-4 than
throwing away money like that... right? thanks for the info!

regards
Dusan

'92 Stealth base
K&N FIPK
BOSCH platinum +4
Advil bottle


- ----- Original Message -----
From: <Zeoswolf@aol.com>
To: <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2000 6:04 PM
Subject: Team3S: Re:2nd gen headlight on a 1st gen


> In a message dated 10/9/00 5:33:13 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> dusanboy@ix.netcom.com writes:
>
> << Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st >>
>
>    Dusan,
>    If you wanted to do this, the light conversion is simple.  What you
have
> to worry about is the hood.  You have two options, either shave down the
1st
> gen hood to fit becuase the 2nd gen lights have a more curved shape to
them.
> Or choice two, you need to get a 2nd gen hood.  Although you will
compromise
> the hood bonnets that people seem to love on the 1st gens.  Hope this
> helps...  all in all, this might be pricey so I would think twice about it
if
> I were you.  Remember, the headlight assembly from the dealer is 375 a
> side... then a hood.. possibly another couple hundred if you found it from
a
> junkyard then you have to paint it to match your car.  Just my
thoughts.....
> cheers!
>
> james
> 94R/T
>
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Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 15:33:42 -0700
From: Ken Middaugh <Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Rotor Update

> >For camber, Merrit is real happy with -3 degrees.  If you want a daily
> driver,
> >then you will need to be able to adjust your camber at the track, so a set of
> >front camber adjustment plates will be a good investment.  You can have an
> >alignment shop make "street" and "track" marks on the adjustment plates, then
> >you can change the camber at the track.
>
> I don't agree, but you are certainly welcome to try. Others do it. I
> wouldn't do it.

Yes, but you don't use your car as a daily driver, correct?  You just set camber
to the track settings.

Check out http://www.ground-control.com/default.htm for Ground Control's new
camber adjustment plates.  They currently don't have a Stealth/3000GT listing
yet, but they should have a universal style.  Tien and Cusco should also have
camber plates.  They should all be real easy to adjust.


> >To increase the front track width, you will need longer racing wheel studs
> and
> >either wheel spacers OR a two-piece rotor with an extra thick facing.  Mohler
> >suggests increasing each side by 3/4".  A wider front track is OK for a daily
> >driver too.  Spacers and studs should be about $100.
>
> Yeah, but where do you buy them? I've tried to track down studs with no luck.

Geoff Mohler bought his from http://www.rallydist.com/.  This link didn't work
today although it worked last week.  Our studs are 12mm * 1.5mm but I don't know
the stock length.


- --
Could you drive any better if I shoved that cell phone up your a**?!

Ken Middaugh (858) 455-4510
General Atomics
San Diego

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Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 17:38:53 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Team3S: Adventures in Braking

You may have seen my recent post on Road America, where I discussed braking
from 125 mph. Don't try this at home!

Serially, my brakes are working very, very well, so I thought I'd give you
an update.

My system includes:

"Big Red" Porsche 993 twin turbo calipers (purchased from Brad Bedell as a
kit)
Stainless steel brake lines on all four wheels (part of the kit)
Cryogenically treated Porterfield stock rotors.
Ford High Performance brake fluid (best bargain in all of racing! $3 a pint
at your Ford dealer)
Hawk Blue race pads

Other modifications:
Removed backing plates from front brakes for air flow
Removed front inner fender well (behind the intercoolers) to promote air flow
2.5 in. cooling air ducts from under the front valence to inside the front
wheels.
Water injection directly to the rotors (a stream of water, not a mist)
The piece de resistance -- special duct scoops from Walt Disney Animal
Kingdom. (These are the big cups you get at McDonalds, that are necked down
to fit into cup holders. I slice off the end of the cup. The 2.5-in duct
hose fits inside the neckdown very nicely. Then I attach the cup to the
bottom of the valence with plumbing strapping. The entire apparatus fits
inside the 4x6 in. openings to the left and right of the air dam, with half
the big opening of the cup in the air flow). My car is so low that I can't
use these on the street. Anything higher than a matchbox cover rips them
right off. So I install them when I change tires at the track.

Results:
At Road America, we brake three times per lap from 120+ (at 1, 5 and Canada
Corner), and three times from 100 (at 3, 8 and 14). When I am not being
hassled, I'll coast down from the big speeds to 100, then brake. But when a
Cobra R is in the mirrors at 125 mph, I lift, count one-two, then hit them
so hard they bounce off the ABS.

Under normal braking (from 100 mph), the brakes hold up very, very well.
Under Cobra R-assisted braking at 125 mph,  they get hot and begin to fade.
This is where the water injection pays off big time. After one of those big
stops, I flip the windshield washer lever a few times, and squirt water
directly onto the rotors. (I run 1/4 in. hoses  to both rotors and T them
into the hose leading to the windshield washers. To prevent the wipers from
turning, I pull the plug on the wiper motor. Works like a champ!) One 20
minute session under Cobra R-assisted braking uses up the entire windshield
washer reservoir, but the brakes hold up!.

My instructor drove the car and was impressed by the brakes. And I'm not
done yet (see below).

Last time out, at Heartland Park, I ran Pagid Black pads ($220) . They
dusted severely and turned my wheels black on the street, but the first
time I took them on a track they quit dusting. The Pagids stopped very
well, and lasted the entire event, plus another 50 laps at Marshalltown.
When I replaced them, there was still lots of pad left. My major complaint
with the Pagids is the terrible noise they make off the track. It sounds
like metal-to-metal all the time, even when there's 1/4 in. of pad left.

The Hawk Blues ($150) appear to have used up half the pad, which is pretty
good for a big, heavy-braking track like RA. I think if I run again this
season, I'll stay with this set of Hawk Blues and take the Pagids along as
spares. The blues don't make nearly as much noise on the street as the
Pagids. Not yet, anyway.

There is one more event -- in November, at Heartland Park in Topeka, put on
by the Audi Quattro club.

Next:  I have a set of residual pressure valves from Porterfield that are
supposed to keep pressure on the rear pads so that the rears actually do
some work for a change and contribute to the braking. Also, this winter we
are going to see if we can't put the old front VR4 calipers (or something
else) on the rears. I also have a set of NASCAR truck air blowers, which we
are going to install in the duct system so there will be constant air
pressure into the rotors. We'll also run the water injection into the
blowers to create a mist instead of a stream. We'll keep you posted on the
progress..

Rich/old poop








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Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 19:30:31 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Team3S: Great video

It's not a 3000GT, but if you want to see how Canada Corner should be
taken, go to www.trackguys.com, click on the video clip section, and then
click on Turn 12 at Road America.

It's my buddy and instructor Jeff Lacina in his 95 Mustang 351 coming into
Canada Corner at 145 (20 mph faster than me), then storming through in 3rd,
upshifting to 4th, and disappearing under the bridge into 13. Turn up the
sound!!

Rich/old poop


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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 20:37:45 -0400
From: smii <smii@mediaone.net>
Subject: Team3S: New England Drag Way (import and compact cars only)

 Hello everyone, I just wanted to take the time to let everybody know
that this Saturday is a big day at New England Dragway. Street modified
imports and compact car only,in short IMPORT BLISS. I personally know of
several highly tuned Japanese super cars that will be there. This is a
good chance for us to show our stuff. My car is in the shop for some
last minute modifications and a quick change of CV joints before the
weekend.I'm hoping to run some decent times without any problems. To
enter, you must be there at 8am. It would be nice to see our cars in
vast numbers. There will be plenty of stock,lightly modified, and highly
modified cars there. So no matter where your car is on the modification
line, this will be a good time to pick up some new ideas, and also see
where you are, and figure out what you want to do to your car next.

   New England Dragway is located in Epping New Hampshire Just over the
Massachusetts border. for more imformation go to
WWW.NewEnglandDragway.com        HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE!!!!!!

Boris
91 RT/TT


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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 19:59:03 -0500
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: New England Drag Way (import and compact cars only)

> Hello everyone, I just wanted to take the time to let
> everybody know that this Saturday is a big day at New
> England Dragway.

A little far for me to venture out...

I and some comrades from MN 3/S will be at Rock Falls Raceway for their
Saturday Fun Day in Wisconsin.  There is an Import Day on Sunday, but I have
an autocross to attend on that day.

Anyone is welcome if you are around the WI/MN/IA area...  The last weekend
of drag racing in the region as far as I know.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 21:56:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Road America Report

> >but don't know why this would make the rear "loose" or "step out." 
- ---

Someone not expecting it might say its steppin out back there, but it
reduces lateral load on the wheels and allows for much greater rotation of
the car -vs- a rear end that simply tracked straight.
 
> >the AWS to make it OPPOSITE phase.  I believe it's all hydraulics, so
- ---
Oh god..nono.  This would be like a really pooched up toe setting in the
back of the car.  Would actually put more lateral stress on the outside
rear wheel, and would be seriously funky in the rear.  IMHO..
 
> > As for me, my car exhibits understeer under acceleration and oversteer under
> >braking, and I have to really watch the latter due to my inexperience, so
- ---
You can thank the front end torque bias for that.  Simply outdriving the
amount of rubber on the front of the car..plus -some- weight Xfer.  Im
investigating some seriously heavy spring rates to cure that problem as we
speak.  Nothing in the commercially available vein even attracts me.  Too
spongy.  But since I'll never see a course as bad as a "decent" city
street, who cares.
 
> That almost sounds as if you have some positive toe dialed in at the rear,
> especially if it wants to swap ends under hard braking. Check the
> alignment, and get rid of that positive toe in the rear.
- ---
Agreed.  The car should be dead 0 toe all around.

..and if your alignment shop cant measure toe under load..then you dont
have a good toe alignment.  My shop tries to keep about a 5' per mile toe
setting on the car under load.  This is measures with a toe-analyser on
the ground..with the car rolling over it.  Cool device.  Ive seen on our
VR4 ('95 stock bushings) about a 9' per mile difference in what the best
alignment rack in the world considers 0 toe, and what 0 toe really is with
load on the suspension.  Note:  There is no "number" to dial in to correct
for this..so I cant speculate.

Damnit Rich..we're gonna -have- to meet in the middle somewhere this next
spring/summer and go racin!


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|   strip it down, and shove as many $20 bills as possible  |
|            within the cavity of the car itself.           |
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 00:31:08 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Road America Report

>Damnit Rich..we're gonna -have- to meet in the middle somewhere this next
>spring/summer and go racin!
>
I wish SOMEBODY would come out and play. I'm tired of being the only VR4 at
the track. I don't have anybody to compare notes with.

Rich

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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 22:34:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Road America Report

Sweet.

We belive BRE found the (or very possibly) the source of our motor failure
at Buttonwillow.

Oil starvation.

Oil was full..and still was when he pulled it.  Yet the turbos and some of
the journals..and oil pump innards showed signs of pumpin' air instead of
oil.

I gather we were pulling easy 1.0G+ thru some turns that were in the area
of 10-15 seconds each in the track configuration we had that day (full
course).

Will keep everyone up to date on what else we discover/do.

On Tue, 10 Oct 2000, Merritt wrote:

> >Damnit Rich..we're gonna -have- to meet in the middle somewhere this next
> >spring/summer and go racin!
> >
> I wish SOMEBODY would come out and play. I'm tired of being the only VR4 at
> the track. I don't have anybody to compare notes with.
>
> Rich
>
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|            within the cavity of the car itself.           |
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 02:44:21 -0700
From: "noble" <nketo@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Team3S: Turbo Tech question

Hi everyone,

After long hard hours, I managed to rip off the factory turbos myself
without lifting the entire engine :)

I have a few questions regarding the compressor housings on the stock
TD04-9B's.
I have been told different reports of how far these can be machined;
one guy says 13G's are the max, another says 15G's.

The one that said 13G's said I'd need to order his TD04L's, but I dont see
what a larger turbine has to do with fitting a 15G.

I've found Mitsu numbers which corresond to the TD04L's,
which differ from the factory numbers.
These are 49177-00420 and 49177-00320.

Do these numbers imply larger compressor housings?
What about the tried and tested max compressor size I can upgrade to using
stock housings?

Thanks in advance,
Noble

PS: Happy boosting!



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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 09:53:40 -0700
From: "Geddes, Brian J" <brian.j.geddes@intel.com>
Subject: Team3S: Update: Engine lockup

I just got the diagnosis on my 3000 from the dealership.  For those who
voted for a piece of the clutch lodged against the flywheel, that's the
closest to what happened.  It looks like the release bearing came apart, and
a piece of it worked it's way into the starter motor, locking it up.  While
I was driving the car it ran fine because the starter wasn't doing anything.
When I tried to start the car again, the starter of course wouldn't turn,
but the attempted start got the starter teeth stuck in the out position.
The frozen starter prevented the flywheel from moving, which is why I
couldn't turn the crankshaft pulley by hand. 

So, it looks like I'm out a new clutch, a new starter, and possibly a new
flywheel.  This is particularly annoying because I JUST replaced the starter
2 months ago.  Depeding on the extent of the damage to the flywheel, they're
either going to resurface or replace it.  I guess 85k miles isn't a terrible
life for a clutch. 

Now would of course be an ideal time to drop in a non-OEM clutch if I so
chose.  I've always been pretty happy with the stock clutch (I have a base
model)...any input on pros/cons of an aftermarket clutch?

Hey, at least the engine isn't siezed!

- - Brian


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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:56:02 -0400 (EDT)
From: John Stegall III <jstegall@programmer.net>
Subject: Team3S: Hybrid Charger

Okay, curious question.  Just learned something from the old man and his Porsche Boxster and I got curious as to if they do something like this for our cars.  He just got a supercharger-turbocharger hybrid on his boxster; rather than twin-turboing it.  I don't know much about the specs or anything, since I've barely gotten to look under the hood of the car, but sure enough the two different chargers working off of the belt and exhaust of his car are there.  Anyone here know if anyone makes any hybrid chargers for our 3S cars?  Or if our cars can be twin turbocharged and supercharged at the same time?!?  That would be a killer combination... supercharger present, one wouldn't have to worry about turbo-lag at all.

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1997 3000GT
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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:06:09 -0500
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Update: Engine lockup

> Now would of course be an ideal time to drop in a non-OEM
> clutch if I so chose.  I've always been pretty happy
> with the stock clutch (I have a base model)...any input
> on pros/cons of an aftermarket clutch?

If the stock clutch works for you, stay with that.  If the stock clutch will
hold the power you are making then there's no reason to upgrade.

> Hey, at least the engine isn't siezed!

Came out lucky!  Finally, a good luck story on this list instead of a bad
luck story!

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 10:10:06 -0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Update: Engine lockup

- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geddes, Brian J"
<brian.j.geddes@intel.com>
- ----------------snip------------
> Now would of course be an ideal time to drop in a non-OEM clutch if I
so
> chose.  I've always been pretty happy with the stock clutch (I have a
base
> model)...any input on pros/cons of an aftermarket clutch?

Hey, Brian,

Glad to hear the damage is so "minor"...  :-)

The stock clutch is excellent, especially for our NT cars, but I wanted
something with a little more positive grip.  I got the RPS "Carbon Claw"
and couldn't be happier.  You can still slip it, but when you pop that
pedal, there is no slip at all.  My lady loves it too.  It's a bit more
work in stop-and-go traffic, but other than that, it's just what I
wanted.  That said, I'd have no problem putting in another stock clutch.
The Carbon Claw is just a bit better for my purposes - highly
recommended...

Best,

Forrest



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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 12:11:46 -0500
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Hybrid Charger

> Anyone here know if anyone makes any hybrid chargers
> for our 3S cars?  Or if our cars can be twin
> turbocharged and supercharged at the same time?!?

Nobody makes anything like that for turbo 3/S cars...  Probably makes some
sort of sense on something like a Boxster that comes with a wimpy motor in
the first place but when you start with something putting out 300 HP a
supercharger would only be a restriction in the intake path.

Besides, where would you put it?  There's NO room under the hood that's
in-line with the accessory belts to run a supercharger.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 11:33:34 -0700
From: Ken Middaugh <Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Turbo Tech question

Well, http://www.gt-pro.com has their 357 Magnum that uses the stock TD04
housing.  They call it the "17G killer" so this may currently be the turbo with
the biggest turbine in the TD04 housing.

> After long hard hours, I managed to rip off the factory turbos myself
> without lifting the entire engine :)
>
> I have a few questions regarding the compressor housings on the stock
> TD04-9B's.
> I have been told different reports of how far these can be machined;
> one guy says 13G's are the max, another says 15G's.
>
> The one that said 13G's said I'd need to order his TD04L's, but I dont see
> what a larger turbine has to do with fitting a 15G.
>
> I've found Mitsu numbers which corresond to the TD04L's,
> which differ from the factory numbers.
> These are 49177-00420 and 49177-00320.
>
> Do these numbers imply larger compressor housings?
> What about the tried and tested max compressor size I can upgrade to using
> stock housings?

- --
Could you drive any better if I shoved that cell phone up your a**?!

Ken Middaugh (858) 455-4510
General Atomics
San Diego

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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2000 19:05:58 -0000
From: "Sam Shelat" <sshelat@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Rotor Update

- -----Original Message-----
From: Ken Middaugh <Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
To: kalla@tripoint.org <kalla@tripoint.org>; Team3S
<Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Date: Monday, October 09, 2000 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Rotor Update


.  The best bang for the buck is Brad Bedells Porsche Big Red
>caliper upgrade with one-piece rotors at $1500.  Terry at KVR suggests that
the
>Porsche 928 caliper would be a better caliper for our heavy cars than the
Big
>Red.  A kit with 928 calipers and a two-piece rotor with Porsche 322mm disk

I thought the 993 calipers were from  the 928-s4

Sam


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