team3s
Wednesday, October 4
2000 Volume 01 :
Number
283
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Date:
Tue, 3 Oct 2000 13:50:50 -0700
From: "Veilside GTO" <
gtovr4@postalzone.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Unlimited Carfax, anyone?
Ken,
I just used that a few
days ago and it worked fine. Did u use credit card to
pay? If you did, it
should have gone through perfectly dine. Sorry, I should
have opted for the
unlimited carfax vin# search but did not.
Good luck.
Julian
Huang
94 Mitsubishi Veilside Tein TEC GTO tt
Team 3S
Seattle,
Washington
gtovr4@postalzone.com-
-----Original Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st[
mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of Ken Stanton
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 1:27 PM
To: Team3S
Stealth; 3SI Rochester
Subject: Team3S: Unlimited Carfax,
anyone?
Anyone out there have unlimited Carfaxs?
I want to run a
vin, and the preliminary "free" one wont even go through
(???)
If so,
please email me privately!
Thanks!
Ken Stanton
'91 Pearl White
RT/TT
Organizer - 3SI Rochester
(NY)
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 20:19:41
EDT
From:
SKCrusader@aol.comSubject: Team3S:
Single turbo??
Hey,
Alright, no ass kicking for
this please. I am also a member of the
mkiv.com (Supra TT) mailing
list. Guys are always talking about going
single. They turn
their TT's into single T's and get massive amounts of HP.
Supposedly,
going single is the best way to get huge HP out of the 4th gen
Supra.
Does anybody turn the VR-4 into a single turbo or are there
significant twin
upgrades that can be done on the VR-4?? Just trying to
expand on my
small knowledge base. =)
Scott
POS W-body GM
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 20:35:52
EDT
From:
AABOMB1@aol.comSubject:
Team3S: horn replacement
Hello list members,
I was looking under
hood today and I looked right behind the plenum and
noticed that the horn
seems to hanging down. This really doesn't seem normal
becuase it is only
being supported by the wires attached to it. Wires are
still working and
insulation only appears to be moderately damaged.
After seeing this
problem, I searched the Team3S archives and it seems that
everyone is saying
there is actually more than one horn. From what I can see
there is only one
horn and it is behind the plenum; my questions are:
1.) If there is more
than one horn, where is/are the other one(s)?
2.) I haven't tried to
disassemble the horn yet --- is it difficult to
disconnect the wires? Will I
have to strip the wires? How much will a new
horn cost me?
P.S. I
have '94 3000GT base model (DOHC / 222
HP)
Thanks
AA
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 18:04:45
-0700
From: "Jim Berry" <
fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Single turbo??
You're more than welcome to belong to any groups you
please and ask any
Stealth or 3000 questions you may have.
The Supra
is a straight 6 with sequential turbos [ one small for quick spoolup
and one
larger for more high end oomph !!!] --- the straight 6
configuration
allows for the use of a single turbo, the V6 in our cars makes
a single turbo
difficult as the exhaust routing gets messy. In addition the
large single results
in turbo lag which still allows big HP but makes driving
more of a challenge.
There are multiple turbo upgrade options for the 3S
cars --- U.S. spec cars
have a 9B turbo which allows 17 lb of boost up to
about 5500 rpm and then
drops off to about 9 lb or so. The European spec cars
have the 13B which allows
the car to hold higher boost to redline [7000rpm].
In addition there are 15G's, 17G's,
18T's [maybe] up to GT Pro's 368 20G size
turbos.In all of these cases the twin
turbo best choice because of the V6
configuration and the quicker spoolup.
As to massive amounts of HP, keep
in mind some of those big HP cars are
running 400 shots of nitrous. See the
following link.
http://www.ec3s.org/videos/supraondyno.mpeg
Jim
Berry
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----- Original Message -----
From: <
SKCrusader@aol.com>
To: <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
Hey,
> Alright, no ass kicking for this
please. I am also a member of the
> mkiv.com (Supra TT) mailing
list. Guys are always talking about going
> single. They turn
their TT's into single T's and get massive amounts of HP.
>
Supposedly, going single is the best way to get huge HP out of the 4th gen
> Supra. Does anybody turn the VR-4 into a single turbo or are
there
> significant twin upgrades that can be done on the VR-4??
Just trying to
> expand on my small knowledge base. =)
>
> Scott
> POS W-body GM
>
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 18:07:56
-0700
From: "Jim Berry" <
fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
horn replacement
Hmmmmmm !!!!!! --- the horn in my stealth is behind the
front bumper cover, you
can't even see it with mirrors. You sure you're not
looking at a speaker or some such
goodie for an aftermarket
alarm.
Jim Berry
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From: <
AABOMB1@aol.com>
To: <
stealth-d@starnet.net>; <
stealth@dragnet.com>; <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Tuesday, October 03, 2000 5:35 PM
Subject: Team3S: horn
replacement
> Hello list members,
>
> I was looking
under hood today and I looked right behind the plenum and
> noticed that
the horn seems to hanging down. This really doesn't seem normal
> becuase
it is only being supported by the wires attached to it. Wires are
> still
working and insulation only appears to be moderately damaged.
>
>
After seeing this problem, I searched the Team3S archives and it seems that
> everyone is saying there is actually more than one horn. From what I
can see
> there is only one horn and it is behind the plenum; my
questions are:
>
> 1.) If there is more than one horn, where is/are
the other one(s)?
> 2.) I haven't tried to disassemble the horn yet --- is
it difficult to
> disconnect the wires? Will I have to strip the wires?
How much will a new
> horn cost me?
>
> P.S. I have '94
3000GT base model (DOHC / 222 HP)
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> AA
>
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[In The United States]
>
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 20:15:26
-0500
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <
mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Single turbo??
> Guys are always talking about going
single.
> They turn their TT's into single T's and get
> massive
amounts of HP. Supposedly, going
> single is the best way to get
huge HP out of
> the 4th gen Supra. Does anybody turn the
VR-4
> into a single turbo or are there significant
> twin upgrades
that can be done on the VR-4??
> Just trying to expand on my small
knowledge
> base. =)
Everyone retains (or at least I haven't
heard of anyone doing a single
tubosetup) the twin turbo setup on the 3/S
turbo cars. Mostly I think
because of a lack of good plumbing options
to set up a larger single turbo.
Since the Supra is an inline-6, all the
exhaust ports are on the same side
of the motor and it is relatively easy to
replace the twin turbo setup with
a single larger turbo. On the 3/S, we
have a V6 motor and therefore the
exhaust gasses exit on opposite sides of
the block and you'd have to
fabricate something to collect the gasses and
pass them into a single turbo.
Once you have that done, you have to figure
out where to put a big turbo -
there is hardly any room at all under the car
available for that.
The mild upgrade is to go the 13G turbos. The
higher-end upgrade (and the
one I would recommend) is to go with 15G
turbos. The fastest 3/S car (Jack
Tertadian's) holds the 1/4 mile
record with
10.810@128.44 using 15G's
and
nitrous. Adam Weltz has the fastest non-nitrous time at
11.25@125.43, but I
don't know what turbos he
was using. There are other hybrid turbos
available such as the 17G's,
GT357-Magnum, or if you are insane you can go
for the GT399-R setup from
GTPro. The turbos beyond 15G have yet to prove
themselves at the
dragstrip (or if they have, I haven't seen the times).
- -Matt
'95
3000GT Spyder VR4
15G's, etc.
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 22:14:34
-0000
From: "Sam Shelat" <
sshelat@erols.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: New to 3S... help?!?
Check with Gatecrasher at
www.3si.org. He already performed the
operation.
However,
it must be stated that the resale value of an SL vs a
VR-4 starts to become
very close as the years go by, so its just plain silly
to do it. In the
eclipse line-up, there are tons of parts for the front
wheel drivetrain to
control the power. That luxury is not there for the
FWD SL or base. Their
trannies will not hold up to more than 300lb-ft
of torque. Heck, the VR-4
trannies have a tough time handling that
power. However, Altered Atmosphere
Motorsports has a turbo package for
the SL for about $5000 and I think Brian
at GT-Pro (california) might have a
kit for you. Otherwise the NA guys have
mostly resorted to NOs to get
their thrills.
Sam
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From: Jannusch,
Matt <
mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
To:
team3S@stealth-3000gt.st <
team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Date:
Tuesday, October 03, 2000 5:06 PM
Subject: RE: Team3S: New to 3S...
help?!?
>> Anyone here pulled that conversion? If not, I
do want
>> to at least drop the SL model DOHC engine and
>>
turbo-charge that. I know, it's probably cheaper to
>> trade my
car in and go get a VR-4, but I WANT TO DO
>> THIS THE HARD WAY.
Thanks for any help in advance.
>
>You'll need a full motor, turbos,
both pre-cats, a downpipe, ECU, intake
>setup, turbo-calibrated MAF
sensor, intercoolers and mounting brackets,
>boost control system, and a
higher flow fuel pump at a minimum. You might
>need an SL tranny,
I'm not sure if the base model tranny bolts up, but the
>SL uses the same
block as the VR4 so theoretically it should bolt on.
>
>Expect to
run into some unexpected roadblocks and costs, but it should be
>possible
to do. Doesn't sound cheap to me...
>
>-Matt
>'95 3000GT
Spyder VR4
>
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Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 19:54:28
-0700
From: "Chris Maxwell" <
shmacker@home.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Wastegate problem?
Here's the deal. I have 355 turbos and I still
can't maintain high boost to
redline. No matter what pressure I set the
profec, boost falls to about 9spi
(or less) after 5500rpm. The boost holds
whatever I set it fine until about
5500rpm.
Boost leak, maybe, but
doubtful as all my vacumn lines were replaced with
silicon. I just
borrowed my friend's Apex BOV to replace my Blitz setup and
I'll try it out
tomorrow. Perhaps the stock BOV is leaking...
But I got to thinking. When
I replaced my stock turbos, I reused the
wastegate actuators. Is it possible
that one of the actuators is not working
properly (like it's open all the
time) and that would cause my boost
behavior? I'm going to buy something to
test them tomorrow (according to the
procedure in the manual) but I wanted to
see if anyone thinks that a faulty
wastegate would cause this or maybe it
would manifest itself in a different
way.
Thanks,
Chris
92 R/T
TT
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 08:57:15
-0400
From: "Dusan R. Simovic" <
dusanboy@ix.netcom.com>
Subject:
Team3S: K&N FIPK problems?
Hello,
I have noticed that since I have
installed my FIPK there has been this
"hiss" coming from the front right of
my car. At first ignored it since I
thought it had something to do with
the air vents (heater/AC) but yesterday
I realized it was the air filter that
is making this noise. I am not sure
that there is a problem, maybe it is
supposed to sound like that, but it
sounds like you have a piece of paper
stuck to a vacuum cleaner. So I popped
the trunk and looked at the filter
thinking that there isa big hole or that
there is something stuck to it, but
it looked fine... now, I was wondering
if this hissing sound was normal or
what? Maybe I am jsut used to the stock
filter... did any of you have a
similar problem?
thanks!
Regards
Dusan
'92
Stealth
K&N FIPK
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 09:27:09
-0400
From:
ukyo@avana.netSubject:
Re: Team3S: K&N FIPK problems?
I hope that hiss is normal... My
car does it too now
that I have added the K&N FIPK. I think that
it is
just the sound of more air being pulled through than we
are used
to.
- --Travis
'97 3000GT (Base + K&N FIPK - Resonator
Bottle / Red)
> Hello,
> I have noticed that since I have
installed my FIPK
there has been this
> "hiss" coming from the front
right of my car. At
first ignored it since I
> thought it had
something to do with the air vents
(heater/AC) but yesterday
> I
realized it was the air filter that is making this
noise. I am not
sure
> that there is a problem, maybe it is supposed to
sound like
that, but it
> sounds like you have a piece of paper stuck to a
vacuum
cleaner. So I
> popped
> the trunk and looked at the filter thinking
that
there isa big hole or that
> there is something stuck to it, but
it looked fine...
now, I was wondering
> if this hissing sound was
normal or what? Maybe I am
jsut used to the stock
> filter... did any
of you have a similar problem?
>
> thanks!
> Regards
>
Dusan
>
> '92 Stealth
> K&N
FIPK
>
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 09:30:17
-0400
From: "Dusan R. Simovic" <
dusanboy@ix.netcom.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: K&N FIPK problems?
Do you also get a really loud short
hiss once you shut off your car?
thanks
Dusan
- -----
Original Message -----
From: <
ukyo@avana.net>
To: <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Wednesday, October 04, 2000 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: K&N FIPK
problems?
> I hope that hiss is normal... My car does it too
now
> that I have added the K&N FIPK. I think that it is
> just the sound of more air being pulled through than we
> are
used to.
>
> --Travis
> '97 3000GT (Base + K&N
FIPK - Resonator Bottle / Red)
>
> > Hello,
> > I have
noticed that since I have installed my FIPK
> there has been this
>
> "hiss" coming from the front right of my car. At
> first
ignored it since I
> > thought it had something to do with the air
vents
> (heater/AC) but yesterday
> > I realized it was the air
filter that is making this
> noise. I am not sure
> > that there
is a problem, maybe it is supposed to
> sound like that, but it
>
> sounds like you have a piece of paper stuck to a
> vacuum cleaner.
So I
> > popped
> > the trunk and looked at the filter
thinking that
> there isa big hole or that
> > there is
something stuck to it, but it looked fine...
> now, I was
wondering
> > if this hissing sound was normal or what? Maybe I am
> jsut used to the stock
> > filter... did any of you have a
similar problem?
> >
> > thanks!
> > Regards
>
> Dusan
> >
> > '92 Stealth
> > K&N
FIPK
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 07:29:39
-0600
From: "Ken Wheeler" <
kenwheeler@phoenixdsl.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: K&N FIPK problems?
That is the sound of your car taking
in more air. It's normal. The air
intake is no longer underneath
your headlight assembley and is now located
in a more open area.
Nothing to worry about. It's when you don't hear the
hiss you should
start worrying.
Ken
'92 RT/TT
'67 Mustang
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Message -----
From: "Dusan R. Simovic" <
dusanboy@ix.netcom.com>
To:
"3STeam" <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Wednesday, October 04, 2000 6:57 AM
Subject: Team3S: K&N FIPK
problems?
> Hello,
> I have noticed that since I have
installed my FIPK there has been this
> "hiss" coming from the front right
of my car. At first ignored it since I
> thought it had something to
do with the air vents (heater/AC) but
yesterday
> I realized it was the
air filter that is making this noise. I am not sure
> that there is a
problem, maybe it is supposed to sound like that, but it
> sounds like you
have a piece of paper stuck to a vacuum cleaner. So I
popped
> the
trunk and looked at the filter thinking that there isa big hole
or
that
> there is something stuck to it, but it looked fine... now, I
was wondering
> if this hissing sound was normal or what? Maybe I am jsut
used to the
stock
> filter... did any of you have a similar
problem?
>
> thanks!
> Regards
> Dusan
>
>
'92 Stealth
> K&N FIPK
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 09:36:00
-0400
From: "Dusan R. Simovic" <
dusanboy@ix.netcom.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: K&N FIPK problems?
thanks, that helps me feel
better :)
regards
Dusan
- ----- Original Message
-----
From: "Ken Wheeler" <
kenwheeler@phoenixdsl.com>
To:
"Dusan R. Simovic" <
dusanboy@ix.netcom.com>;
"3STeam"
<
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Wednesday, October 04, 2000 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: K&N FIPK
problems?
> That is the sound of your car taking in more
air. It's normal. The air
> intake is no longer underneath
your headlight assembley and is now located
> in a more open area.
Nothing to worry about. It's when you don't hear
the
> hiss you
should start worrying.
>
> Ken
> '92 RT/TT
> '67
Mustang
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dusan R.
Simovic" <
dusanboy@ix.netcom.com>
> To:
"3STeam" <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2000 6:57 AM
> Subject: Team3S: K&N FIPK
problems?
>
>
> > Hello,
> > I have noticed that
since I have installed my FIPK there has been this
> > "hiss" coming
from the front right of my car. At first ignored it since
I
>
> thought it had something to do with the air vents (heater/AC) but
>
yesterday
> > I realized it was the air filter that is making this
noise. I am not
sure
> > that there is a problem, maybe it is
supposed to sound like that, but it
> > sounds like you have a piece of
paper stuck to a vacuum cleaner. So I
> popped
> > the trunk and
looked at the filter thinking that there isa big hole or
> that
>
> there is something stuck to it, but it looked fine... now, I
was
wondering
> > if this hissing sound was normal or what? Maybe I
am jsut used to the
> stock
> > filter... did any of you have a
similar problem?
> >
> > thanks!
> > Regards
>
> Dusan
> >
> > '92 Stealth
> > K&N
FIPK
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 07:43:11
-0600
From: "Ken Wheeler" <
kenwheeler@phoenixdsl.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Need a little advice on a VR4
I bought my '92 RT/TT with 62k
on it. Mint condition. Had never seen the
rain or snow. I
don't think the lady knew which one was the gas pedal so
she never drove it
hard. Loaded with factory alarm and radar detector built
into the dash
above the fuel guage. 60k maintenance already completed.
No
stains or even scratches on the entire car (well, now there are thanks
to
someone keying it for me). I got it for $13k. Typical
dealer is pulling
your leg....HARD.
Ken
'92 RT/TT
'67
Mustang
- ----- Original Message -----
From: <
ukyo@avana.net>
To: <
team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Tuesday, October 03, 2000 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Need a little advice
on a VR4
> Some important things I forgot to
mention:
>
> 63,296 miles (about 30 of those are mine).
:)
> Chrome rims.
> Missing the button that switchs the exhaust
or
> suspension (I don't know which button is which...
> button that
is still mounted reads ECS and is on the
> dash near the tach.)
>
Missing lighter (no biggie).
> Missing hatchback sliding cover.
>
Does have the sunroof removable cover. :)
> Missing jack.
>
Looks like it has great tires on it (forgot brand name).
> Located in
Austell, Georgia (just out side of Atlanta).
>
> I wouldn't mind
buying the car and putting a little
> (lot) of TLC into it, but I don't
want to dump a lot of
> money in a dog that is going to bite me in the
wallet
> every time I turn around. :)
>
> Sorry if this
comes through twice...
>
> --Travis
> '97 3000GT (Base +
K&N FIPK - Resonator Bottle / Red)
>
> > Hi guys,
>
>
> > I recently found a '94 VR4 not too far from where I
>
> work. It's dark green and has light beige leather
> >
interior. It has the manual crank sunroof. The
>
engine
> > pulls strong with no noticable knocking / ticking.
>
The
> > transmission seems to have a slight problem with going
>
> in to second (syncro???). The paint is in decent
> > shape,
but not great. The interior has seen better
> > days with the
driver seat needing to be totally
> > reworked. The carpet is
stained in the back on both
> > sides (looks like an oil or dark soda
spill). The
> > stereo is in CODE mode, so I have no idea if it
even
> > works. The active areo works, I have no idea on
the
> > power antenna. It has 17" rims (I thought VR4s
were
> > supposed to have 18"???) that look to be stock
> >
Mitsubishi. The climate control works fine. The
>
power
> > door lock does not work on the passenger side, nor
>
does
> > the passenger inside door handel. They are
asking
> > $14,995 for the car, but in the shape it's in I feel
>
> that to be a little high. Thing is it has been on the
> >
lot for a while. They said that if it doesn't move in
> > 2 weeks
that it is going to auction where they, "know
> > we can get $15K out
of it".
> >
> > What do you guys think a car in this shape
would be
> > worth? I would like to toss out a number at
them
> > before they ship it off. I don't mind putting
some
> > work in to the car to make it more like it should be,
>
> but I don't want to drop $15K on a fixer - upper.
> >
> >
Comments??? Thanks in advance...
> >
> >
--Travis
> > '97 3000GT (Base + K&N FIPK - Resonator Bottle /
Red)
> >
> >
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> >
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 14:00:43
GMT
From: "Greg Gonzales" <
greggonzo1@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Clutch Adjustment
Is the clutch adjustable on our cars?
92 RT
TT
Greg
G
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Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 16:18:17
+0200
From: Jim Matthews <
jim@the-matthews.com>
Subject: Fwd:
Team3S: AVC-R problem
This was sent to the list incorrectly but also CCed
to me...
"H. Le Hir" <
hlehir@lucent.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I'm glad I'm not the only one to have that kind of
experience.....maybe I'm
> not completely insane.
>
> I
basically posted a VERY similar thing, a couple months ago, and because
>
I'm using a Blitz DBSC I was told from this list to "live with it", that
>
it's _normal_", and that I should learn to adjust the boost settings of
the
> DBSC based on the sky/atmosphere conditions.
>
> What I
discovered as well is if I experience that kind of erratic boost
>
behavior, _sometimes_ shutting off the engine, waiting somethin like 30
>
secs, and restarting the car sometimes helps. And yes, that occurred while
I
> was driving towards bad weather (usually lower atm pressure), or
climbing in
> the mountains.
>
> What's interested is that I
have an Apexi AVC-R in one of my 300ZX TT, and I
> never ever had "this"
problem with that boost controller (same road, same
> driver, same
conditions).
>
> I also have a lot of members of the
www.twinturbo.net that are using the
>
Blitz DBSC and the AVC-R, and they do not experience that kind of
strange
> behaviour.
>
> So, this makes me beleive that we
probably experience a similar problem, but
> that it's NOT related to the
boost controller, but rather to the CAR/ENGINE
> setup.
>
>
In my case, the DBSC was done with the help of Roger, so it's "state of
the
> art".
> Unfortunately, my knowledge of the Mitsu engine is not
good enough to the
> point that I can describe what part is causing this,
but I have the feeling
> that the ECU can somehow cause it.
>
> In my case, under the same DBCS setting, my boost will vary from 0.7
bar, up
> to 1.05 bar (where I have the DBSC max level setup)
>
> Henri
> 90 300 ZxTT 2+2 Auto
> 92 300 ZxTT 2+2
Manual
> 92 Stealth RT/TT
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 11:05:14
EDT
From:
SKCrusader@aol.comSubject: Re: Team3S:
Single turbo??
Thanks for the info. I forgot
about the differences in the motors. I
remembered the I-6 for the
Supra, but didn't think about the exhaust problems
for a single on the V6 in
the 3/S. Just as a side note......I saw an Eclipse
GSX advertised with
a 20G and a 75 shot of NOS with some other mods claiming
475 HP. Is
that realistic?? On top of that, they wanted $32K for it. I'd
buy something with twins before buying an Eclipse of any trim.
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 10:18:08
-0500
From: "cody" <
overclck@flash.net>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Single turbo??
That is very realistic for the Eclipse. 475
HP is fairly easy, even without
the NOS... The 20G's are HUGE,
especially for the 2.0L Eclipse. i want two
for my 3000GT
:-) sorry... 32K does sound like alot, but depending
on
what is done to the car, maybe the owner figures it's worth that, he
may
have more than that invested too... so who knows... Personally, I'd
go for
either a '93 or '94 VR-4 with a pair of 15G's.... for alot less, and
then
spend the extra doing suspension mods, other engine mods, stereo,
etc.
- -Cody
- -----Original Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st[
mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of
SKCrusader@aol.comSent:
Wednesday, October 04, 2000 10:05 AM
To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
Re: Team3S: Single turbo??
Thanks for the
info. I forgot about the differences in the motors. I
remembered
the I-6 for the Supra, but didn't think about the exhaust
problems
for a
single on the V6 in the 3/S. Just as a side note......I saw
an
Eclipse
GSX advertised with a 20G and a 75 shot of NOS with some other
mods claiming
475 HP. Is that realistic?? On top of that, they
wanted $32K for it. I'd
buy something with twins before buying an
Eclipse of any trim.
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 08:41:58
-0700
From: "Jim Berry" <
fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
K&N FIPK problems?
> I hope that hiss is normal... My car
does it too now
> that I have added the K&N FIPK. I think that
it is
> just the sound of more air being pulled through than we
>
are used to.
It's not more air going in --- the car uses the
same amount of air
at any rpm as it used to . The noise was always there, but
before
the FIPK it was inside the air box which acts to muffel the
sound.
Jim
Berry
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Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 10:48:26
-0500
From: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Kuhmos revisited
As you may recall, I asked the group for advice
on what to do about my car
eating its Kuhmos, and several of you suggested
more camber. OK, we set it
to minus three degrees camber today,
+0.10 positive toe, and maximum
castor. (geez, does it turn in!
Wow!).
I also ordered two replacement Kuhmos, shaved and heat cycled,
which will
go on the fronts and will get rotated during the
weekend.
Now I have to drive it 300 miles each way (on street tires) to
Road America
for a Badger Bimmer event this weekend. I know that increased
negative
camber tends to heat up tires (I learned that from the new F1
broadcaster
on Speedvision), so my question is:
Is it OK to run at
normal highway speeds (75-85) for extended times with
this kind of negative
camber? Or should I reduce my speed and run at the
speed limit?
If
anybody is going to RA this weekend, look for a black Mitsu and a red
Fiero
parked together and come over and say hi.
Rich/94 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4
twin turbo
Kuhmos, Porsche Big Reds, Hawk Blues, SS lines, Eibachs, lowered,
K&N,
stock motor.
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 09:00:29
-0700
From: "Bart Kurek" <
bart_kurek@eli.net>
Subject: Team3S:
lowering 3kgt ?
How far can the car go down before one may need a camber
kit? What works
best for spring/shock combo's? I've used Eibach/KYB-AGX on my
Eclipse and it
felt good. Thank you.
- -Bart Kurek
Sales
Engineer
Electric Lightwave Inc. (ELIX)
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 10:05:51
-0600
From: "Ken Wheeler" <
kenwheeler@phoenixdsl.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: K&N FIPK problems?
Jim, you didn't like my very technical
explanation? :) LOL. You are right,
my mistake on the air
part.
Ken
'92 RT/TT
'67 Mustang
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From: "Jim Berry" <
fastmax@home.com>
To: <
ukyo@avana.net>; <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Wednesday, October 04, 2000 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: K&N FIPK
problems?
>
> > I hope that hiss is normal... My
car does it too now
> > that I have added the K&N FIPK. I
think that it is
> > just the sound of more air being pulled through
than we
> > are used to.
>
>
> It's not more air
going in --- the car uses the same amount of air
> at any rpm as it used
to . The noise was always there, but before
> the FIPK it was inside the
air box which acts to muffel the
sound.
>
> Jim
Berry
>
>
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Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 11:24:55
-0500
From: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: lowering 3kgt ?
At 09:00 AM 10/4/00 -0700, Bart Kurek
wrote:
>How far can the car go down before one may need a camber kit? What
works
>best for spring/shock combo's? I've used Eibach/KYB-AGX on my
Eclipse and it
>felt good. Thank you.
If you go to maximum lowness
on the Ground Control kit, you can still align
it within factory specs. If
you want to dial in more than -0.05 negative
camber, you'll need a camber
kit.\
I am still running stock shocks with my Eibachs.
Rich/94
VR4
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