team3s Thursday,
September 21 2000 Volume
01 : Number
271
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Date:
Wed, 20 Sep 2000 01:25:17 -0400
From: Mihai Raicu <aa2345@wayne.edu>
Subject: Team3S:
APEXI boost controller setup problem???
I apologize in advance for the
long message, but I want everybody to get
a clear picture of what is going
on.
This past weekend, Mike (my brother) along with a few others, did
some
light upgrades to our cars (94 TT and 95 VR-4). Before the
upgrade,
both cars were completely stock. The upgrades included K&N
air filter,
Apexi A-VCR Boost Controller, Dual Pod with Autometer boost gauge
and
Greddy EGT gauge. Both upgrades were identical on both cars.
Here is
what we completed on both cars. The air filter was a piece of
cake.
The plumbing in the engine compartment is totally complete, except
for
the EGT probe. The only things that are left (which are
quite
important), are the installation of the gauges (the wires and hoses
are
already pulled through the fire wall, but they are just not hooked
up)
and the hook up of the boost controller into the ECU. It was
getting
too late, and since the cars seemed to run OK, we left the
boost
controller unpluged. Here is what happed after that.
I
drove the car home about 25 miles that night, but I took it easy on it
and
didn't notice a difference. Next time I drove it is the
scenario
below.
The more I drove (first 7 miles through the city) the
worst the car felt
in terms of power. The boost on the stock display
(which is wrong, but
barewith me), was working much harder to get up to 14
psi. After about
5 miles of city driving, the boost levels would not go
over 7 psi (but
it would get there as quick as it should be). I then
stoped the car to
make sure all the hoses are still connected, including the
nail that we
pluged one of the hoses with, and everything looked OK, but I am
no
expert, so I might have missed something. Anyways, I then went on
the
highway and same story, barely any boost. In my opinion, I don't
think
I was getting any boost, because the car felt very much like my base
93
stealth. After about 10 miles of highway driving, I decide to step
on
it a little, and it seemed that if I stayed on the throtle long
enough,
the psi would slowly rise to 12 or 13, and I think the turbos
were
really spooling up because accelleration seemed much much more at
5500
RPM (12~13 psi) in 3rd gear than at 3500 RPM (7 psi). It was the
same
deal in 4th gear. When I saw that they eventually spool up, I did
not
want to step on the throtle too much so it doesn't over boost. I
drove
nicely the next 5 miles until I got out at my exit, after which I
tried
the throtle again in 1st and 2nd gear, and it was the same as before
(~7
psi).
By the way, I just talked to my brother, who by the way is
experiencing
the same symptoms, and he said he installed the boost gauge and
was
reading 8 psi at most, but was usually well below that.
As long as
this is not hurting the car, its OK, but if you guys think it
might hurt
anything, I won't drive it again until I finish the setup.
Thanks for all
your help in advance, and please respond privatly if you
have any
suggestions.
John
94 Yellow TT
& Mike
95 Red
VR-4.
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Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 23:23:17
-0500
From: "Brad Bedell" <bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject:
Team3S: My good week
First of all, my 3000 did as it was suppose
to. Protect me from all harm.
I recently lost a left front tire in
the middle of a corner and the car was
sent into a spin. Given the
choice to hit cars or run off the road, I
decided off the road was
"BEST".
Unfortunately, the exit point of the road also contained a nice
solid metal
light pole. I hit it nearly perpendicular into the
fender just behind the
front wheel.
The car is totaled, and the frame
is tweaked. *HOWEVER* most of my parts
are still
good.
Those of you who might need some parts, in the next 4-6 months, I
will have
parts from my new car:
A 92 motor Unknown miles (has been
replaced, I'm still doing research)
5 speed tranny (don't know if it has
large or small splines)
driveshaft
rear diff
Front & rear
brakes for a 92 car
Front & rear bumpers, side skirts, hood, lights,
active aero etc. (doing
another 99 conversion)
The new car is a 92
VR4 that is silver in color.
Brad
Check out my home page: http://home.austin.rr.com/overboost/
E-Mail:
bbedell@austin.rr.com ICQ#
3612682
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 05:16:37
-0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Meeting Mika...it could happen
If there was a chance that you
might meet Mika Hakinen and/or David
Coultard at a small gathering -- say at
the West/McClaren parties on Friday
and Saturday night or in the hospitality
suite trackside -- what would you
say to or ask either of them in an
attempt to be (a) polite and (b)
knowledgeable about their careers and
F1?
Pretend that it's a handshake line, and you got five seconds after:
"Rich,
this is Mika Hakinen, world champion..."
What would you
say?
I promise to tell all to the group if such an exchange occurs.
And yes, there is a very slight chance it could happen.
I don't
consider this "off topic" because if there is any group of people
who would
know the answer to that question it's you folks.
Rich/94 Mitsubishi
3000GT VR4
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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 11:08:32
-0400
From: smii <smii@mediaone.net>
Subject: Team3S:
syncro help
Hello
everybody,
A friend of mine that is the owner of a
local speed shop that specializes
on
imports has a VR4 in his shop.The problem is the obvious and
common
syncro situation.
About a year and a half ago I bought 1st-5th
including reverse just in
case I ever needed them. Luckily for me I haven't
had to install them
yet. I don't want to part with the ones that I have
for
obvious reasons. Does anybody know if these syncros are
still
obtainable, its for a 91 VR4.
If anybody could helpme in this
situation, it would be greatly
appreciated.
Thank you very
much
Boris
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 08:42:17
-0700
From: "Geddes, Brian J" <brian.j.geddes@intel.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Question: Rear strut bar adjustment
All - I posted this question
to the Starnet list yesterday, but never got a
definitive response. Any
ideas (especially about the creaking sunroof!!!)
would be greatly
appreciated. Thanks!
Well, after 3.5 months of waiting, my Cusco
strut bar FINALLY arrived
yesterday. Woohoo! Not being fluent in
Japanese I had trouble reading the
directions, whose only non-Japanese
sentence was rather humorous: "This
product is designed for use in
Japan. It must not be used in any other
country." The
installation was pretty self explanitory once I popped off
the access
panels...although the bolts towards the front of the car are a
HUGE pain to
get at, and I left them off for now (any tips here?)!
In any case, I got
the thing on and relatively well secured, and then faced
the dilemma of
whether to adjust the bar to push the struts apart or pull
them
together. It seems that pulling the struts together will angle the
top
of the tires in slightly (negative camber, I think). When
cornering, this
angling would keep the outside tire's surface closer to
parallel with the
road, in turn creating more surface contact and better
traction. On the
other hand, it seems to me that in hard cornering the
struts will tend to
move together, and pushing them apart with the strut bar
will reduce body
flex.
Right now the push-apart logic makes more
sense to me, but I'm curious to
hear other people's views/arguements.
Thanks!
- - Brian
Oh, I have an aftermarket sunroof that creaks
going over rough roads, and I
was hoping that the strut bar would make that
go away. Now that the bar is
in though, the creaking is actually more
frequent. Any ideas?
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 11:45:05
-0400
From: "Heikki Pikkujamsa" <hpikkujamsa@compuserve.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Meeting Mika...it could happen
Well, for Mika Häkkinen for
example you could say "Terve mitä kuuluu?" which
means "How Are You?" in
Finnish. I bet Mika would be positively surprised to
hear this in his native
tongue and it would definitely bring a smile in his
face.
About his
career: Like all the other great drivers, Mika began driving
go-carts at
early age of 5, and drove national series from 1974 to 1986. He
achieved 5
national championships after he moved to Formula Ford for 1987
and won
Scandinavian Championship. For 1987 he moved to Opel Lotus
EuroSeries and won
the season, then for 1988 he drove in Vauxhall-Lotus
Challenge series and was
second.
1989 he moved to British Formula 3 -series in
Dragon/Marlboro-Reynard TOM's
Toyota Team. Unfortunately the car wasn't that
competitive but he achieved
7th place in overall. He also got to drive F3-car
in Monaco and Macao but
did not do too well. The highlight of that year was
when West Surrey Racing
Ralt RT33 Mugen Honda Team invited him to drive their
car in Cellnet F3
Superprix in Brands Hatch. With this competitive car he
took pole, drove the
fastest lap and won the whole race. This convinced the
managers of West
Surrey Racing Team and they signed Mika immediately for the
1990 season.
The 1990 Formula 3 season was two man show among two Finns,
Mika Häkkinen
and Mika Salo. These two dominated the season and took 1-2
positions in
overall standings, Häkkinen being the champion. F1 world had
already noticed
Mika's gifts and so Lotus-Judd F1 Team signed him for 1991
season.
Mika's first F1 race ever was in Phoenix, AZ. He was 13th in
qualifying but
at the race the motor caught fire and he DNF'd.
His best
race was in Imola where he was 5th. Mika was finished the season
15th in
overall standings.
In 1992 he drove Lotus-Ford. His best races were in
Portugal and Hungary
where he was 4th. Mika finished 8th that year.
In
1993 he moved from Team Lotus to McLaren. He was hoping to get to drive
the
number 2 car in the team but since McLaren already had Nigel Mansell
and
Michael Andretti he had to settle for team test driver. Fortunately
for
Mika, Michael Andretti didn't drive that great and returned back to USA
to
drive Indy cars in the end of the season. This opened the opportunity
for
Mika and he got to drive last 3 GP's. Highlight was his 3rd position
in
Japan Grand Prix. He got 4 points and was 15th in overall
standings.
The 1994 year brought big changes to McLaren. Ayrton Senna
signed with
Williams and he was replaced by Martin Brundle. This was also the
year
Ayrton Senna died in Imola Grand Prix. McLaren got new Peugeot engines
that
were powerful but not reliable. Mika's engine broke in 7 races
while
Brundle's engine went south in 11 races! But when Mika's engine lasted
the
whole race, he was fast. 3rd in San Marino, England, Italy, Portugal
and
Belgium. Despite all the engine problems Mika Finished 4th in
overall
standings.
McLaren had high hopes for the 1995 season. They
got new engines from
Mercedes-Benz and 1994 Indy car champion to drive, Nigel
Mansell. Nigel
replaced Martin Brundle, but to everybody's surprise he did
not fit into the
team's new car McLaren MP4/10 (too much Dunkin Donuts...?).
This car was a
total disappointment. Nigel Mansell said that the car drove
like a "cement
truck", and he quit the team after only two races. McLaren's
test driver
Mark Blundel replaced Nigel and he became Mika's teammate. Again,
the
reliability of the engines were not what McLaren had hoped for.
Mika's
engine broke 9 out of 15 GP's but still he managed to get 17 points
and was
7th in overall standings. On the last race in Australia Mika almost
died.
Mika's rear tire exploded during qualifying and he crashed against the
tire
wall. He got serious head trauma and was in coma for a long
time.
Fortunately for him, the season was over that gave him lots of time
for
recovery and by the start of the 1996 season he was ready to climb back
to
McLaren.
The 1996 season did not bring any big changes to McLaren
Team. Mercedes
supplied engines and worked hard to improve reliability. Mika
got a new
teammate, David Coulthard. Many thought that Mika wouldn't be ready
for the
season after his crash in Australia, but he showed nay-sayers by
getting 31
points that gave him 5th position on overall standings.
For
1997, McLaren-Mercedes got a new sponsor. Marlboro went with Ferrari
so
McLaren signed with another tobacco company, West. Car colors changed
from
red/white to silver, so finally Mercedes got their "silver arrow"
car.
Mika's performance was improving but MB engines still had many
problems.
Still he took points being 3rd, 4th and 5th in many races. Finally,
in Jerez
Grand Prix the engine worked like a dream and so Mika won the race
and got
maximum points. He finished 7th that season.
In 1998 things
started to happen. Adrian Newey designed a new car,
Mercedes-Benz and Ilmor
finally got their V-10 working right and Bridgestone
supplied the right
tires. This was a super year for Mika. He won 8 races out
of 16 GP's, was 2nd
two times and 3rd once. He DNF'd only in 3 GP's. This
was the first year Mika
got the World Champion title. On top of that, he got
married with Erja
Honkanen. What a lucky guy :-)
1999 looked good. Mika was on top of the
world and had maybe the best car
ever, McLaren-Mercedes MP4/14. Even with
tremendous pressure from Ferrari
and Michael Schumacher, nobody could stop
him. And so in last race in Japan
GP while Michael could not handle the
pressure and messed up his start,
Mika took his second World Champion
title.
This year did not start too well for Mika. In first two races he
DNF while
Michael Schumacher took valuable points by winning both of them.
But after
that Mika has won five times and been second 4 times. He has won
last 4
races and looks forward to increase his point lead to Michael
Schumacher in
Indianapolis. At the moment Mika has 80 points while Michael
has 78 points.
I personally believe that Mika will get his 3rd straight
world championship
title this year. And this, my friends, is something that
only a few great
drivers have ever accomplished.
Some things about
Mika's personal life: Mika's favorite restaurant, "Stars
and bars", is in his
home Monte Carlo conveniently next to his Yacht Club.
Sometimes you'll see
him relaxing at the Cafe de Paris with his Finnish wife
Erja Honkanen. He has
a dog named "TOTO". He drives, among other things,
Mercedes A-class, Ferrari
360 Modena and Vespa scooter. He also has
Mitsubishi MU2B aircraft which he
bought from his manager and former F1
World Champion Keke Rosberg. Keke, BTW,
is also a Finn.
I hope the above gives you a little background
information in case you
actually will meet Mika. Say hello from me in case
you do and tell him that
I'll keep the Finnish Flag way up for
him!
Heikki
'92 Stealth R/T TT
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:58:00
CDT
From: "Curt Gendron" <curt_gendron@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Team3S: New 1/4 mile posting board
Hey everyone,
I've just
completed a new page for 1/4 mile times. Its at:
http://www.geocities.com/cgendron/fastest3s.html
I
don't have it linked from my "Minnesota 3/S" site yet, but it will be
soon. If your as sick as I am about sending in your times to the
3000gt.com
board and never getting it posted, then this is the
solution. I guarantee
to have your times posted on this page within a
week of getting all the info
I need.
So check out the page!! If your
time isn't up there, or you see errors in
the times, then send me an e-mail
to the address listed on the page with the
info.
Thanks,
Curt
http://www.mn3s.org
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:49:27
-0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Help! Aquarium Valve
We just tried to install a Redline manual
boost controller on the car. We
installed a boost gauge and used Roger's
diagrams and tons of helpful
e-mails from last year, but it's baffling. Here
are the symptoms:
1. It will sometimes hit 20 psi at 2500 rpm in any
gear, even sixth.
2. It blows the Y-pipe off at anything over 15 psi
3. It
seems to operate normally part of the time, with the boost increasing
as rpm
increases, going to the target 15 psi no problem, and staying there
like it
should. Next run, it's up to 20 psi in a heartbeat (holy shit, does
it fly
when it runs up to 20 psi!!!!) and blows off the Y-pipe. We have
adjusted it
every which way, but nothing helps.
We have obviously done something
basically wrong. Any ideas?
If we can't make it work, we'll try a straight
manual valve and shitcan the
Redline controller.
(Curt: I shoulda took
you up on your offer to install a Blitz, but I've had
this dang Redline thing
laying around for more than a year, so I thought
we'd give it go. Big
mistake.)
The car is at the shop now, whilst my wrench tries to figure it
out. I
came back home to ask you guys.
Help!
Rich/old poop/94 VR4
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 14:10:16
-0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Help! Aquarium Valve
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Merritt
<merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
>
We just tried to install a Redline manual boost controller on the car.
We
> installed a boost gauge and used Roger's diagrams and tons of
helpful
> e-mails from last year, but it's baffling. Here are the
symptoms:
>
> 1. It will sometimes hit 20 psi at 2500 rpm in any
gear, even sixth.
That usually means that the wastgate isn't getting a
pressure signal --- line
blown off or plugged, I don't know why it would work
part time, maybe the
line is kinked.
> 2. It blows the Y-pipe off
at anything over 15 psi
In your case it appears to be a good safety
feature. Make sure the gasket
and the throttle body are clean of all oil and
tighten the clamp with a socket
instead of a
screwdriver.
Jim
Berry
P.S. Ask Mika what in the hell really happened to Andretti at
McLaren.
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 17:45:31
-0400
From: "Heikki" <hpikkujamsa@compuserve.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Meeting Mika...it could happen
Many of you credited me on the
Mika autobiography I posted earlier. Even
though I am true Mika Häkkinen fan,
the credits should go to Jari Murto and
his exellent articles at http://www.kolumbus.fi/jori.murto/index2.html
Heikki
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:30:08
-0000
From: "Sam Shelat" <sshelat@erols.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: APEXI boost controller setup problem???
You are getting as much
boost as the wastegate will allow w/o boost control.
Its cause there is no
solenoid action to help build boost beyond the spring
tension on the
wastegates.
Sam
- -----Original Message-----
From: Mihai Raicu
<aa2345@wayne.edu>
To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Cc:
iraicu@cs.wayne.edu <iraicu@cs.wayne.edu>
Date:
Wednesday, September 20, 2000 4:24 AM
Subject: Team3S: APEXI boost controller
setup problem???
>I apologize in advance for the long message, but
I want everybody to get
>a clear picture of what is going
on.
>
>This past weekend, Mike (my brother) along with a few others,
did some
>light upgrades to our cars (94 TT and 95 VR-4). Before the
upgrade,
>both cars were completely stock. The upgrades included
K&N air filter,
>Apexi A-VCR Boost Controller, Dual Pod with Autometer
boost gauge and
>Greddy EGT gauge. Both upgrades were identical on
both cars. Here is
>what we completed on both cars. The air
filter was a piece of cake.
>The plumbing in the engine compartment is
totally complete, except for
>the EGT probe. The only things that
are left (which are quite
>important), are the installation of the gauges
(the wires and hoses are
>already pulled through the fire wall, but they
are just not hooked up)
>and the hook up of the boost controller into the
ECU. It was getting
>too late, and since the cars seemed to run OK,
we left the boost
>controller unpluged. Here is what happed after
that.
>
>I drove the car home about 25 miles that night, but I took
it easy on it
>and didn't notice a difference. Next time I drove it
is the scenario
>below.
>
>The more I drove (first 7 miles
through the city) the worst the car felt
>in terms of power. The
boost on the stock display (which is wrong, but
>barewith me), was working
much harder to get up to 14 psi. After about
>5 miles of city
driving, the boost levels would not go over 7 psi (but
>it would get there
as quick as it should be). I then stoped the car to
>make sure all
the hoses are still connected, including the nail that we
>pluged one of
the hoses with, and everything looked OK, but I am no
>expert, so I might
have missed something. Anyways, I then went on the
>highway and same
story, barely any boost. In my opinion, I don't think
>I was getting
any boost, because the car felt very much like my base 93
>stealth.
After about 10 miles of highway driving, I decide to step on
>it a little,
and it seemed that if I stayed on the throtle long enough,
>the psi would
slowly rise to 12 or 13, and I think the turbos were
>really spooling up
because accelleration seemed much much more at 5500
>RPM (12~13 psi) in
3rd gear than at 3500 RPM (7 psi). It was the same
>deal in 4th
gear. When I saw that they eventually spool up, I did not
>want to
step on the throtle too much so it doesn't over boost. I
drove
>nicely the next 5 miles until I got out at my exit, after which I
tried
>the throtle again in 1st and 2nd gear, and it was the same as
before (~7
>psi).
>
>By the way, I just talked to my brother,
who by the way is experiencing
>the same symptoms, and he said he
installed the boost gauge and was
>reading 8 psi at most, but was usually
well below that.
>
>As long as this is not hurting the car, its OK,
but if you guys think it
>might hurt anything, I won't drive it again
until I finish the setup.
>
>Thanks for all your help in advance,
and please respond privatly if you
>have any
suggestions.
>
>John
>94 Yellow TT
>
>&
Mike
>95 Red VR-4.
>
>
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:39:26
-0000
From: "Sam Shelat" <sshelat@erols.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Help! Aquarium Valve
Stop being a cheapo and buy yourself a good
boost controller. There is one
for sale in the classifieds of www.3si.org its an HKS EVC IV. 20psi?
are
you crazy man! The controller is the best way to go especially
since you
track race, you do not want to have to worry about overboosting
while coming
out of a turn doing a 100+.
Sam
- -----Original
Message-----
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Date:
Wednesday, September 20, 2000 8:43 PM
Subject: Team3S: Help! Aquarium
Valve
>We just tried to install a Redline manual boost controller
on the car. We
>installed a boost gauge and used Roger's diagrams and tons
of helpful
>e-mails from last year, but it's baffling. Here are the
symptoms:
>
>1. It will sometimes hit 20 psi at 2500 rpm in any
gear, even sixth.
>2. It blows the Y-pipe off at anything over 15
psi
>3. It seems to operate normally part of the time, with the boost
increasing
>as rpm increases, going to the target 15 psi no problem, and
staying there
>like it should. Next run, it's up to 20 psi in a heartbeat
(holy shit, does
>it fly when it runs up to 20 psi!!!!) and blows off the
Y-pipe. We have
>adjusted it every which way, but nothing
helps.
>
>We have obviously done something basically wrong. Any
ideas?
>If we can't make it work, we'll try a straight manual valve and
shitcan the
>Redline controller.
>
>(Curt: I shoulda took you
up on your offer to install a Blitz, but I've had
>this dang Redline thing
laying around for more than a year, so I thought
>we'd give it go. Big
mistake.)
>
>The car is at the shop now, whilst my wrench tries to
figure it out. I
>came back home to ask you
guys.
>
>Help!
>
>Rich/old poop/94
VR4
>
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 18:57:52
-0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Help! Aquarium Valve
>. 20psi? are
>you
crazy man!
20 psi is the problem, Sam.
I can't keep it to 15
psi.
Rich
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 23:43:38
-0400
From: "Mihai Raicu" <aa2345@wayne.edu>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
APEXI boost controller setup problem???--THANK YOU!!!
Hello
Team,
Thanks Ken Middaugh, Jack M., Sue Smith, and Sam Shelat for your
helpful
input on the low boost problem both my brother and I have ben having
since
the incomplete Apexi AVC-R installation. After reading your
messages, I am
finally relieved that there is nothing wrong with our
cars. Next weekend I
will get to finish the entire setup (connect the
AVC-R). Until then, I need
to keep driving the car this way. I
will keep everyone posted on the
progress of the installation within ~1.5
weeks. Then, I will probably ask
for more questions with regard to the
initial setup of the menus.
- -MIKE-
95 Red VR-4
John (my
brother)
94 Pearl Yellow TT
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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 23:27:17
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From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: APEXI boost controller setup problem???--THANK
YOU!!!
>Thanks Ken Middaugh, Jack M., Sue Smith, and Sam Shelat for
your helpful
>input on the low boost problem both my brother and I have
ben having since
>the incomplete Apexi AVC-R installation.
I've been on these lists for more than two years now, and people seem
to
have more problems with boost controllers than anything else. With all
due
respect to Roger's wonderful web site and diagrams, you'd think
that
SOMEBODY could figure out how to install these furshlugginer
boost
controllers without our having to go through 87 kinds of hell. I know
it's
a combination of Jap-english instructions and pisspoor documentation
(you
should see the illiterate instructions that came with my
Redline
controller!) plus the overwhelming complexity of our twin turbo
system, but
geez, it ain't rocket science. It's just a bunch of blowoff
valves and a
snake's nest of tubing and mysterious components and weird-ass
boost
controllers.
I went with a manual controller because I thought
it would be SIMPLE to
install (I'm not cheap, Sam). Silly me.
If we
could somehow combine Roger's web site with photos and instructions
of actual
installations of specific hardware, maybe we could solve this
mystery.
Forgive my rant. But, like Mihai and his brother -- and countless others
on
this list -- now I am in the middle of a boost controller
installation,
too. God help us all, every one.
Curt, I shoulda
listened to you!.
Rich/old poop/94 VR4
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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:18:44
-0600
From: "Ken Wheeler" <kenwheeler@phoenixdsl.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: APEXI boost controller setup problem???--THANK YOU!!!
Well, I
just installed one of these bad boys and......... the
programming
sucks. The learning mode takes a while to finalize its
settings. I think
it will be a good unit once it gets tuned in. I
went to the drag strip here
in Denver last night and couldn't get above a .78
bars because the unit had
finished learning yet. That on top of there
being over twice as many the
normal racers, it was tough to get more than a
couple of runs down the
strip. As soon as I get her "tuned" in, I
should be pulling mid 14's at
this altitude. It's frustrating, so have
patience. A LOT of patience, and
then wait a little more. And if
that doesn't work, take a break, and wait a
little while longer.
I'll
also get the pics of my installation online here shortly (as soon as I
can
fix my digital camera since it fell off of the desk).
Thanks, Jeff, for
meeting me up there and the offer to borrow your helmet!
Ha Ha
Ken
Wheeler
'92 RT/TT
'67 Mustang
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From: "Mihai Raicu" <aa2345@wayne.edu>
To: "Stealth" <team3s@mail.stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Wednesday, September 20, 2000 9:43 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: APEXI boost
controller setup problem???--THANK YOU!!!
> Hello
Team,
>
> Thanks Ken Middaugh, Jack M., Sue Smith, and Sam Shelat
for your helpful
> input on the low boost problem both my brother and I
have ben having since
> the incomplete Apexi AVC-R installation.
After reading your messages, I
am
> finally relieved that there is
nothing wrong with our cars. Next weekend
I
> will get to finish
the entire setup (connect the AVC-R). Until then, I
need
> to
keep driving the car this way. I will keep everyone posted on the
>
progress of the installation within ~1.5 weeks. Then, I will probably
ask
> for more questions with regard to the initial setup of the
menus.
>
> -MIKE-
> 95 Red VR-4
>
> John (my
brother)
> 94 Pearl Yellow TT
>
>
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