team3s          Thursday, September 14 2000          Volume 01 : Number 266




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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:57:01 +1200
From: Kevin Clark <Kevin.Clark@hnz.co.nz>
Subject: RE: Team3S: blew off my y-pipe!

> J/K - you need a new gasket and a better that stock clamp. 

The problem is that a new gasket can not be purchased
seperately, only with the complete Y-pipe ($$$).  If
anyone has another source then there are a few people
that would love to hear about it  :)

Cheers,
Kevin Clark
'91 GTO-VR4  (with superglue gasket fix)

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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 20:58:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: blew off my y-pipe!

Got one...

Whats it worth? 

Honest..whats it worth.

Its in excellent shape as well.

On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Kevin Clark wrote:

> > J/K - you need a new gasket and a better that stock clamp. 
>
> The problem is that a new gasket can not be purchased
> seperately, only with the complete Y-pipe ($$$).  If
> anyone has another source then there are a few people
> that would love to hear about it  :)
>
> Cheers,
> Kevin Clark
> '91 GTO-VR4  (with superglue gasket fix)
>
> ***  Info:  http://www.stealth-3000gt.st/Team3S-Rules.htm  ***
>



- -------------------------------------------------------------
|    The proven method to make a Supra race worthy, is to   |
|   strip it down, and shove as many $20 bills as possible  |
|            within the cavity of the car itself.           |
- -------------------------------------------------------------


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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 23:56:42 -0500
From: "Jeff" <spydervr4@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: blew off my y-pipe!

Jegs doesn't sell the right size.  T-Bolt clamps are not like regular worm
clamps; they must be the right size or they won't fit right.  I'd recommend
contacting www.ctcmotorsports.com

I bought some special t-bolts from them that have high tension springs
around the shaft the nut spins on to keep constant pressure on the clamp,
regardless of temperature variations.  It also makes them impossible to
overtighten (unless you squish the spring down all the way but then you're
missing the point).

I believe the size we need is 2.75"

jeff
'95 Mitsubishi Spyder VR-4
'90 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
To: "Team3S" <team3s@mail.stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 9:44 PM
Subject: RE: Team3S: blew off my y-pipe!


> > J/K - you need a new gasket and a better that
> > stock clamp.  If you still have problems, you
> > might as well buy a aftermarket y-pipe with
> > the proper fittings - I've heard they don't
> > come off if tightened correctly - whereas
> > the factory y-pip can come off fairly easily
> > even if attached to the rights specs...
>
> I've run up to 21 psi continuous from 1st through fourth gear without
> blowing off the stock Y-pipe, with a regular clamp.  Use a good clamp - a
> T-bolt clamp if at all possible.  Jegs sells them if you can't find one
> elsewhere:
>
> http://www.jegs.com
>
> Search for "Jegster T-Bolt Clamps".  I don't know offhand what size you
> need, but they are available all the way up to 5" inner diameter, which
> should be more than sufficient.
>
> Those will not blow off (you can probably tighten it enough to crush the
> throttle body if you tried hard enough), and keeping the factory Y-pipe
will
> save you some money to put into more useful modifications ($9 < $350).
>
> The aftermarket Y-pipes sure look pretty though.
>
> -Matt
> '95 3000GT Spyder VR4
>
> ***  Info:  http://www.stealth-3000gt.st/Team3S-Rules.htm  ***


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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:37:35 +0100
From: "George Shaw" <george.shaw@btinternet.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Strut Covers, Wires, Remote Start

Clifford provides a way of fitting their remote start feature to a manual.
It involves a routine to be carried out prior to leaving the car, forcing
the user to make the car safe i.e. placing it in neutral. If this sequence
is not followed, the remote start will not work. I believe it is simple to
rig a relay for most remote start systems to provide the same. My own
companies system uses a hand-brake interlock and a gear interlock to do the
same thing. Forward to me the details of the system you are looking at and I
will see if I can produce a diagram for you.

I strongly suggest that if you use a remote start, that you also fit a hood
(bonnet) lock as it is very easy to "pop" the hood from outside the car (I
can open any Stealth or 3KGT in 12 secs and silence the alarm in 2), open
the doors via the exposed fuse box and enter the car and drive off, takes
about 45 secs. A thief watching say in a car park over a few days will learn
the pattern for you remote starting the car, say 10 mins before you leave
the office, watch till the car starts and he is off in less than 60 secs,
and the alarm (any alarm) can be bypassed from under the hood, the
immobiliser is already bypassed and the engine heated up. An electronic hood
lock costs about £85 (£30 fitting or DIY) is completely automatic and can
not be "got around" unless the car is in a garage equipped with a ramp and a
lot of time. (The system I fitted to my 3KGT TT took 25 mins to fit and
takes about 1h 30 mins to get around, and we know what we are doing. I also
fitted the same lock to the trunk release). You can fit such a lock in
around an hour or less, one bracket to screw in place, three electrical
connections to make and the bowden cable to cut. If anyone wants details
drop me a line.

eMail:                 george.shaw@btinternet.com
Fax/Voice Mail:  +44 (0) 87 0133 6126
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- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Jannusch, Matt
Sent: 14 September 2000 04:30
To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: RE: Team3S: Strut Covers, Wires, Remote Start

> Can you add remote start to a car with a
> manual trans? =)

You can, by bypassing the car starter's "Park" switch so it always thinks
the car is in park.  This is very dangerous though if someone uses your car
and puts it in gear when parking (the normal thing to do) or if you forget
and leave it in gear yourself.  If the car successfully starts, it could go
runaway on you.




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Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 23:01:16 -0500
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: blew off my y-pipe!

> The problem is that a new gasket can not
> be purchased seperately, only with the
> complete Y-pipe ($$$).  If anyone has
> another source then there are a few
> people that would love to hear about
> it  :)

Junkyard?  Are the throttle body sizes the same on the DOHC non-turbos and
the turbos?  How about one of the aftermarket intercooler pipe junctions
sleeves?  Make one out of a bicycle inner tube?  Thick rubber bands?  I
dunno...  Time to get creative if they are hard to come by.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 06:57:36 -0500
From: "Oskar" <swede@pclink.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: blew off my y-pipe! - 4 sale on E-bay

Great timing - I happen to have the following for sale on E-bay:

Alamo Y-pipe - barely used and in great shape:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=436008709&
r=0&t=0

K&N Aircharger - NIB:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=435558972&
r=0&t=0

Oskar
'95 R/T TT

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew H. Fogle" <foglem@t-three.com>
To: <team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 8:46 PM
Subject: Team3S: blew off my y-pipe!


> Well, with stock boost pressure on my 91' VR4 at 7,200 feet I blew my
> y-pipe off of the intake manifold... Anyone with ideas on how to fix and
> or prevent this would be helpful! Thanks! I think the piece of rubber
> around the pipe where the two come together is kinda shredded now.
>
> -Matthew H. Fogle
>
> ***  Info:  http://www.stealth-3000gt.st/Team3S-Rules.htm  ***
>


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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:31:49 -0500
From: sjc0u812@juno.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: PCV Catch Can et al

Hey Roger:

How are you?  I hope all is well, and the gas price issues aren't hurting
you too bad over there.

It's been a very exciting summer for me, spending way-hey too much money
on the car, but I feel I've also made serious progress getting it NEAR
it's true potential.  Gotta love these cars.

I got your message and would like a moment to review so I understand what
you are saying here.

> Send it back and get a closed one that supports a vacuum condition
> (and not
> cheap plastic in the hot engine compartment !) The little vacuum for
> the
> intake helps the PCV valve to get the high pressure out. The more you
> increase bosot on a car the more the pressure in the crankcase as
> the feed
> is from the intake plenum. The guy probably knows cars but not Turbo
> cars.
> Forget the "mod" on an NA car !

Here's my questions:

1.) Why a closed one?  I thought part of this idea was to get the oil
vapor out of the intake also, no?

2.) Yes, the unit is plastic, and way too big.  I plan to actually modify
the unit by cutting out and removing 2/3 of the huge bottle.  But, seeing
as how half of the components under the hood are plastic, I think it will
be ok.  I plan to mount it near the passenger side fuse box and HKS Dual
Mega Flow air intake -- if I can find some room!

3.) Won't the pressure inside the crankcase also push open the PCV valve?
 If I understand the workings, the pressure from the intake can pull open
the PCV valve.  But, it also appears, as with your fill tube problem, it
can work the other way?

Thanks,

SJ

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: <sjc0u812@juno.com>
> An: <team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. September 2000 20:43
> Betreff: Team3S: PCV Catch Can et al
>
>
> > Hello to all:
> >
> > I've recently purchased a catch container with built in breather
> from
> > Summit Racing for the PCV system.
>
>
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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 11:41:58 -0400
From: Rick Diogo <rick@ceo-consulting.com>
Subject: Team3S: Airbox for sale - twin turbo

I have a factory Vr-4 airbox for sale if anyone is interested.  $40 takes it.

Buyer pays shipping.  (can't be much on an airbox)

Please respond privately.





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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:12:30 -0700
From: Ken Middaugh <Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: blew off my y-pipe!

> Well, with stock boost pressure on my 91' VR4 at 7,200 feet I blew my
> y-pipe off of the intake manifold... Anyone with ideas on how to fix and
> or prevent this would be helpful! Thanks! I think the piece of rubber
> around the pipe where the two come together is kinda shredded now.

An alternative to a new factory or aftermarket y-pipe is to just replace the
hose.  Get a 3" long by 2.75" inside diameter silicon hose and two hose clamps.
The T-bolt clamps would be the best, but I use the regular worm screw type for
15 psi.  Finding the hose will be a challange.  Try local shops that work with
turbos.  Otherwise try http://www.turbocharged.com/main.htm, catologs,
turbochargers and accessories, silicon connectors.  They list 1/8" wall and 1/4"
wall silicon hose.  When I bought my car 2 years ago, it had 1/8" already
installed, and hasn't been any problem.

Good luck,
Ken
- --
Forget world peace -- visualize using your turn signal!

Ken Middaugh (858) 455-4510
General Atomics
San Diego

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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 09:56:42 -0700
From: Leonard Dy <LDy@acssys.com>
Subject: Team3S: stereo compatablity

Hello guys
Has anyone tried using the premium sound system components from different
years successfully?  Reason for asking is that my amplifier is shot from my
95 VR4 and I found an amplifier from a 97 SL for sale.  I called my local
Mitsu dealer and was told that their part numbers are different but they
were not sure about compatability.  Anyone know for sure?  Any input would
be appreciated..

Thanks
Len

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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:02:26 -0700
From: Ken Middaugh <Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
Subject: Team3S: Re: Open Track at Buttonwillow

> If you're going up to Buttonwillow I'd be happy to join in. It definitely is
> my favorite track. We could even do some drive alongs there, as they allow
> passengers.
>
> Anyone else up to join in?

Allright, I just registered for Sept. 30 & Oct. 1 at http://www.open-track.com
so I'm fairly certain I'll make this event.  Hopefully others will sign up too!
- --
Forget world peace -- visualize using your turn signal!

Ken Middaugh (858) 455-4510
General Atomics
San Diego

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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:11:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: Open Track at Buttonwillow

Ken:

I'll try.

The VR4 wont be done for a while yet, the Supra is getting a whole new
interior, the CElica GT-S..tho fun, is waiting for the TRD SC kit, and the
installation of a locking diff, wife bought a new RX7 turbo the other
day..might bring it *grin*, and then theres the Ferarri guys at my office
who usually do go, and I'll try hard to get the Speedtoys.Com lingenfelter
Firebird there too.

On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Ken Middaugh wrote:

>
> > If you're going up to Buttonwillow I'd be happy to join in. It definitely is
> > my favorite track. We could even do some drive alongs there, as they allow
> > passengers.
> >
> > Anyone else up to join in?
>
> Allright, I just registered for Sept. 30 & Oct. 1 at http://www.open-track.com
> so I'm fairly certain I'll make this event.  Hopefully others will sign up too!
> --
> Forget world peace -- visualize using your turn signal!
>
> Ken Middaugh (858) 455-4510
> General Atomics
> San Diego
>
> ***  Info:  http://www.stealth-3000gt.st/Team3S-Rules.htm  ***
>



- -------------------------------------------------------------
|    The proven method to make a Supra race worthy, is to   |
|   strip it down, and shove as many $20 bills as possible  |
|            within the cavity of the car itself.           |
- -------------------------------------------------------------


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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 15:46:44 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mike Baldwin <mbaldwin@eecs.tufts.edu>
Subject: Team3S: Help! Check Engine Light and Bay Area Dealer

Help! I was driving to the gym yesterday and noticed that my check engine
light had come on. I had previously driven about 50 miles with no
problems, parked my car on an incline and then - the light. I checked
themanual and it gave a pretty broad description of what the problem would
be.

1) Any idea what the problem could be? Or do I need to head to the dealer
for this one?

2) Will most dealerships be cool with a K&N FIPK? The car is under
EXTENDED triple diamond (Mitsu) warranty.

3) Can anyone recommend a quality Mitsubishi dealership in the bay area? I
live in SF and the car is a 97 VR4.

Thanks

Michael





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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 12:48:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: rusty fulton <digitalcujo@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S: good ol' getrag synchros

I have a 92 Stealth (AWD) with the infamous 5-speed
getrag tranny. The getrag problem I have is whenever I
I shift into 3rd gear it grinds. This grind noise is
proprotional to the motor RPMs. So I suspect the
3rd-4th gear synchros. I spent my whole weekend
pulling out the tranny and ripping it apart. As I look
at it now, I don't see any external problems with the
synchros. I'm thinking about pulling off the bearings
and gears to get to the synchro, to see if there may
be a problem that I can't see on the outside (the hub,
maybe?). I have called just about every possible # I
can find looking for a replacement 3rd gear synchro
and I can't find any.
Here are some quesses for the group....
Do you guys think that I should pull off the bearings
in the hope of getting to the synchros and finding the
problem? or should I just put everything back together
and just wait for the getrag to completely fail?

thanks,
rusty
'92 Stealth


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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:16:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: Open Track at Buttonwillow

Ken:

I will be there with the Celica GT-S.
Wife will be there with her new RX7-TT
Ken Kurts (Guy I race with) Will be there with his Lingenfelter Firebird.

Looks like Sunday we'll be there, maybe saturday.  If its saturday it'll
suck..Im at a customer site till midnight night before.



- -------------------------------------------------------------
|    The proven method to make a Supra race worthy, is to   |
|   strip it down, and shove as many $20 bills as possible  |
|            within the cavity of the car itself.           |
- -------------------------------------------------------------


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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:34:45 -0700
From: "Bart Kurek" <bart_kurek@eli.net>
Subject: Team3S: FIPK ?

I just received my K&N FIPK in the mail. I'm a little confused here. The
applications chart says '91 through '98 3000GT's. I have a '97. So far so
good. I open the box and it clearly states in big bold letters. '91 through
'95. Can I still throw this thing in my car?!

- -Bart Kurek
Sales Engineer
Electric Lightwave Inc. (ELIX)
http://www.eli.net
mailto:bart.kurek@eli.net


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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:43:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: FIPK ?

Yea..probly didnt change printing ont he box.

On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Bart Kurek wrote:

> I just received my K&N FIPK in the mail. I'm a little confused here. The
> applications chart says '91 through '98 3000GT's. I have a '97. So far so
> good. I open the box and it clearly states in big bold letters. '91 through
> '95. Can I still throw this thing in my car?!
>
> -Bart Kurek
> Sales Engineer
> Electric Lightwave Inc. (ELIX)
> http://www.eli.net
> mailto:bart.kurek@eli.net
>
>
> ***  Info:  http://www.stealth-3000gt.st/Team3S-Rules.htm  ***
>



- -------------------------------------------------------------
|    The proven method to make a Supra race worthy, is to   |
|   strip it down, and shove as many $20 bills as possible  |
|            within the cavity of the car itself.           |
- -------------------------------------------------------------


***  Info:  http://www.stealth-3000gt.st/Team3S-Rules.htm  ***

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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:43:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: Open Track at Buttonwillow

I'll add..

I -may- take the GT-S, I will probly show up in my other new car.

1993 Teal Celica GT-4 Alltrac.  (only 81 imported, and 7 Teal)

On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Geoff Mohler wrote:

> Ken:
>
> I will be there with the Celica GT-S.
> Wife will be there with her new RX7-TT
> Ken Kurts (Guy I race with) Will be there with his Lingenfelter Firebird.
>
> Looks like Sunday we'll be there, maybe saturday.  If its saturday it'll
> suck..Im at a customer site till midnight night before.
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> |    The proven method to make a Supra race worthy, is to   |
> |   strip it down, and shove as many $20 bills as possible  |
> |            within the cavity of the car itself.           |
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> ***  Info:  http://www.stealth-3000gt.st/Team3S-Rules.htm  ***
>



- -------------------------------------------------------------
|    The proven method to make a Supra race worthy, is to   |
|   strip it down, and shove as many $20 bills as possible  |
|            within the cavity of the car itself.           |
- -------------------------------------------------------------


***  Info:  http://www.stealth-3000gt.st/Team3S-Rules.htm  ***

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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:47:24 -0700
From: "Bart Kurek" <bart_kurek@eli.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: FIPK ?

interesting....I also just called extreme and they said that the manual in
the box was more accurate...so they're siding with the box and you guys are
siding with several www sites applications chart. oh well. i suppose i'll
just try and cram the SOB in there and see what happens. thanks.

- -Bart Kurek
Sales Engineer
Electric Lightwave Inc. (ELIX)
http://www.eli.net
mailto:bart.kurek@eli.net


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Geoff Mohler" <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
To: "Bart Kurek" <bart_kurek@eli.net>
Cc: <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: FIPK ?


> Yea..probly didnt change printing ont he box.
>
> On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Bart Kurek wrote:
>
> > I just received my K&N FIPK in the mail. I'm a little confused here. The
> > applications chart says '91 through '98 3000GT's. I have a '97. So far
so
> > good. I open the box and it clearly states in big bold letters. '91
through
> > '95. Can I still throw this thing in my car?!
> >
> > -Bart Kurek
> > Sales Engineer
> > Electric Lightwave Inc. (ELIX)
> > http://www.eli.net
> > mailto:bart.kurek@eli.net
> >
> >
> > ***  Info:  http://www.stealth-3000gt.st/Team3S-Rules.htm  ***
> >
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> |    The proven method to make a Supra race worthy, is to   |
> |   strip it down, and shove as many $20 bills as possible  |
> |            within the cavity of the car itself.           |
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> ***  Info:  http://www.stealth-3000gt.st/Team3S-Rules.htm  ***
>


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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:52:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: FIPK ?

Jees..what whiners they are.

AFAIK, theres not a single change in intakes during the entire production
of the car.

On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Bart Kurek wrote:

> interesting....I also just called extreme and they said that the manual in
> the box was more accurate...so they're siding with the box and you guys are
> siding with several www sites applications chart. oh well. i suppose i'll
> just try and cram the SOB in there and see what happens. thanks.
>
> -Bart Kurek
> Sales Engineer
> Electric Lightwave Inc. (ELIX)
> http://www.eli.net
> mailto:bart.kurek@eli.net
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Geoff Mohler" <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
> To: "Bart Kurek" <bart_kurek@eli.net>
> Cc: <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 2:43 PM
> Subject: Re: Team3S: FIPK ?
>
>
> > Yea..probly didnt change printing ont he box.
> >
> > On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Bart Kurek wrote:
> >
> > > I just received my K&N FIPK in the mail. I'm a little confused here. The
> > > applications chart says '91 through '98 3000GT's. I have a '97. So far
> so
> > > good. I open the box and it clearly states in big bold letters. '91
> through
> > > '95. Can I still throw this thing in my car?!
> > >
> > > -Bart Kurek
> > > Sales Engineer
> > > Electric Lightwave Inc. (ELIX)
> > > http://www.eli.net
> > > mailto:bart.kurek@eli.net
> > >
> > >
> > > ***  Info:  http://www.stealth-3000gt.st/Team3S-Rules.htm  ***
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------------------------
> > |    The proven method to make a Supra race worthy, is to   |
> > |   strip it down, and shove as many $20 bills as possible  |
> > |            within the cavity of the car itself.           |
> > -------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >
> > ***  Info:  http://www.stealth-3000gt.st/Team3S-Rules.htm  ***
> >
>
>
> ***  Info:  http://www.stealth-3000gt.st/Team3S-Rules.htm  ***
>



- -------------------------------------------------------------
|    The proven method to make a Supra race worthy, is to   |
|   strip it down, and shove as many $20 bills as possible  |
|            within the cavity of the car itself.           |
- -------------------------------------------------------------


***  Info:  http://www.stealth-3000gt.st/Team3S-Rules.htm  ***

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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:44:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Re: Open Track at Buttonwillow

Ya..were actually in the middle of one of THOSE projects as well

On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Zobel, Kurt wrote:

> FYI,
>
> re: making supra fast
> Its pretty much the same with the 3000GT, except substitute Titanium bars
> for the $20s. (Gold bars are too heavy)
>
> RIP
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geoff Mohler [mailto:gemohler@www.speedtoys.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 2:16 PM
> To: Ken Middaugh
> Cc: Zobel, Kurt; VeilSdeGTO@aol.com; XanthViper@XanthViper.com;
> richfowler@home.com; fastmax@home.com; amahoser@linkline.com;
> Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st; Brian@GTPro.com; q11981@email.mot.com;
> tomcomeau@home.com
> Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: Open Track at Buttonwillow
>
>
> Ken:
>
> I will be there with the Celica GT-S.
> Wife will be there with her new RX7-TT
> Ken Kurts (Guy I race with) Will be there with his Lingenfelter Firebird.
>
> Looks like Sunday we'll be there, maybe saturday.  If its saturday it'll
> suck..Im at a customer site till midnight night before.
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> |    The proven method to make a Supra race worthy, is to   |
> |   strip it down, and shove as many $20 bills as possible  |
> |            within the cavity of the car itself.           |
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>



- -------------------------------------------------------------
|    The proven method to make a Supra race worthy, is to   |
|   strip it down, and shove as many $20 bills as possible  |
|            within the cavity of the car itself.           |
- -------------------------------------------------------------


***  Info:  http://www.stealth-3000gt.st/Team3S-Rules.htm  ***

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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 17:51:41 -0400
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: FIPK ?

Remember that step 10 (removing the bolts from the stock air filter box)
takes about two hours with a Dremmel tool instead of two minutes.  There was
a picture circulated before, but if they are stuck in there (like mine were)
then it will be rough to get out.  Enjoy.  We all have gone through that
stage with the FIPK upgrade I hear.

I also have pictures of the install as I'm sure others have them and Jeff
probably has a link on his Garage page.  Cheers.

- --Flash!
dschilberg@freemarkets.com

3Si #577
1995 Black VR-4 w/ K&N FIPK and a Valentine One
http://www.ec3s.org/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi
http://www.3kgt.com <http://www.3kgt.com>  - "Car pictures" then "Readers'
4" page

- -----Original Message-----
From: Bart Kurek [mailto:bart_kurek@eli.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 5:47 PM
To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: Re: Team3S: FIPK ?

interesting....I also just called extreme and they said that the manual in
the box was more accurate...so they're siding with the box and you guys are
siding with several www sites applications chart. oh well. i suppose i'll
just try and cram the SOB in there and see what happens. thanks.

- -Bart Kurek
Sales Engineer
Electric Lightwave Inc. (ELIX)
http://www.eli.net
mailto:bart.kurek@eli.net


***  Info:  http://www.stealth-3000gt.st/Team3S-Rules.htm  ***

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Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 14:54:40 -0700
From: "Bart Kurek" <bart_kurek@eli.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: FIPK ?

Well I'll take some pictures when I'm done. Hopefully you won't see the duct
tape. ;) Thank to everyone for quick replies!

- -Bart Kurek
Sales Engineer
Electric Lightwave Inc. (ELIX)
http://www.eli.net
mailto:bart.kurek@eli.net


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Geoff Mohler" <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
To: "Bart Kurek" <bart_kurek@eli.net>
Cc: <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: FIPK ?


> Jees..what whiners they are.
>
> AFAIK, theres not a single change in intakes during the entire production
> of the car.
>
> On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Bart Kurek wrote:
>
> > interesting....I also just called extreme and they said that the manual
in
> > the box was more accurate...so they're siding with the box and you guys
are
> > siding with several www sites applications chart. oh well. i suppose
i'll
> > just try and cram the SOB in there and see what happens. thanks.
> >
> > -Bart Kurek
> > Sales Engineer
> > Electric Lightwave Inc. (ELIX)
> > http://www.eli.net
> > mailto:bart.kurek@eli.net
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Geoff Mohler" <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
> > To: "Bart Kurek" <bart_kurek@eli.net>
> > Cc: <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 2:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: Team3S: FIPK ?
> >
> >
> > > Yea..probly didnt change printing ont he box.
> > >
> > > On Thu, 14 Sep 2000, Bart Kurek wrote:
> > >
> > > > I just received my K&N FIPK in the mail. I'm a little confused here.
The
> > > > applications chart says '91 through '98 3000GT's. I have a '97. So
far
> > so
> > > > good. I open the box and it clearly states in big bold letters. '91
> > through
> > > > '95. Can I still throw this thing in my car?!
> > > >
> > > > -Bart Kurek
> > > > Sales Engineer
> > > > Electric Lightwave Inc. (ELIX)
> > > > http://www.eli.net
> > > > mailto:bart.kurek@eli.net
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ***  Info:  http://www.stealth-3000gt.st/Team3S-Rules.htm  ***
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------------------------
> > > |    The proven method to make a Supra race worthy, is to   |
> > > |   strip it down, and shove as many $20 bills as possible  |
> > > |            within the cavity of the car itself.           |
> > > -------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > > ***  Info:  http://www.stealth-3000gt.st/Team3S-Rules.htm  ***
> > >
> >
> >
> > ***  Info:  http://www.stealth-3000gt.st/Team3S-Rules.htm  ***
> >
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> |    The proven method to make a Supra race worthy, is to   |
> |   strip it down, and shove as many $20 bills as possible  |
> |            within the cavity of the car itself.           |
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> ***  Info:  http://www.stealth-3000gt.st/Team3S-Rules.htm  ***
>


***  Info:  http://www.stealth-3000gt.st/Team3S-Rules.htm  ***

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