team3s            Tuesday, August 22 2000            Volume 01 : Number 240




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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 14:27:06 -0500
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: 1995 VR-4 wastegate/blow off valve

> Is there only a wastegate on a stock 1995 VR-4?  How would
> a blow off valve connect and are they tunable?  I see some
> that are set to a specific psi but what if I want it to
> open sooner or later?

I think there is some misunderstanding between what a blowoff valve does and
what a wastegate does.  Here's the scoop:

A wastegate is essentially a shortcut for exhaust gasses to bypass the
exhaust-side turbine wheel in the turbocharger.  In the 3/S cars, each turbo
contains a wastegate inside which simply allows exhaust an easier path
through the turbo by not going through the wheel.  The wastegate actuators
control the level of boost produced by opening when they see about 6 psi of
pressure.  When the wastegates are open, there is less exhaust gas passing
through the exhaust side turbine, which slows the compressor side turbine an
equal amount (both wheels are connected together by a rigid shaft, locking
them together), producing less flow and less boost.

A Blowoff Valve is a device which allows boost to exit the intake system
when you let off the gas and have positive pressure in the intake.  This
prevents the pressure wave from the closing throttle valve from slowing down
the turbine on the intake side, and in extreme cases prevents the same
pressure wave from causing damage to the turbine wheel and associated
components.

The stock valve on our cars is often incorrectly referred to as a blowoff
valve, when it is actually a Compressor Bypass Valve since it feeds the air
back into the intake to prevent air metering problems.  The stock valve is
non-adjustable, and it is probably a good thing that it isn't adjustable.  I
have seen a lot of people who get the adjustable ones just crank them down
so tight that they "flutter" when letting off the gas - which is undesirable
since it isn't letting the boost pressure flow out smoothly which is the
entire purpose of having a BOV.  The reason it flutters is because the
pressure wave is bouncing back and forth in the intake, opening the valve
when it hits it.  On the opposite side it is crashing into the turbine
wheel.

So, you set your boost pressure with the wastegates by showing them less
pressure if you are raising the boost.  All boost controllers fool the
wastegates in this fashion one way or another.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 12:53:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: George Kuo <amkreadgto@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Polyurethane bushings - Good News!

Hey Folks..

Good news..

<--------snip---------->

Subject: POSIBILITIES


 GEORGE,
     WELL, GOOD NEWS! I JUST TALKED TO STEVE BLAKELEY
(HEAD OF ENGINEERING)
WE WOULD LIKE TO GET YOUR CAR IN HERE TOWARD THE END
OF THE WEEK TO CHECK
OUT THE SUSPENSION. WE WOULD NEED IT FOR ABOUT A HALF
AN HOUR OR SO FOR
MEASURING PURPOSES. PLEASE GIVE US A CALL AND ASK FOR
EITHER ME OR STEVE
TO SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT TO GET THIS STARTED. AFTER
THIS MEETING, THEY
WILL DETERMINE IF WE ALREADY MAKE A BUSHING THAT WILL
WORK FOR THIS APPL-
ICATION OR WE COULD ENGINEER IT. IF ENGINEERING IS THE
ANSWER, THEN THEY
WOULD NEED IT FOR AN ADDITIONAL WEEK OR SO AFTER THIS
MEETING.
HOPE TO SEE YOU SOON!
THANKS!

ROB MCMAHAN
ENERGY SUSPENSION

<-----snip------>

Now.. I probably don't have time in the weekdays to
drive over there.. so.. Jim, if you can.. can you
please get in touch with them for me??  Ask for Rob
Mcmahan and tell him the situation.  Maybe if you can
set it up late Friday afternoon.. I can try to get off
work early and meet you there..

Please let me know if you can help!

/George

- --- Jim Berry <fastmax@home.com> wrote:
> George
> I think they're in San Juan or San Clemente
> ----Depending on when it
> needs to be done my car could be made available.
> Bushings are high on my wish list.
>
>     Jim berry
> =============================================
> From: George Kuo <amkreadgto@yahoo.com>
>
> Subject: Team3S: Polyurethane bushings
>
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I got in contact with Energy Suspension in
> prototyping
> > polyurethane bushings for the 3S.  They might be
> > interested.  I will update the latest as soon as
> their
> > head of engineering gets back from vacation next
> week.
> >
> > A few questions:
> >
> > 1) Are the parts the same in all years and models?
> >
> > 2) They are located in the 949 area code.  They
> will
> > need a 3S for a minimum of 10days.  Any
> volunteers?
> > Mine is my daily driver.. so.. hmm.. wana pitch in
> for
> > me a rent a Geo Metro?? =)
> >
> > /George
> > '92 RT TT
> >
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 16:24:48 -0700
From: "Browne, Troy E" <troy.e.browne@intel.com>
Subject: Team3S: Need Help!

Hi Guys, Help!!

I have a '96 3000GT Spyder which I have modified with new 15G turbos, denso
720cc inj., ARC2 A/F,Apexi BC,
HKS intercoolers, HKS exhaust, and alamo downpipe. 

The car has always been extremely dependable 'till now.  Today I was taking
a friend for a ride and was
running hard through third gear when the engine seemed to stutter at about
5k rpms.  I dropped it into
fourth and let off the gas only to find that the engine was completely dead.
It felt as if I was coasting while
in fourth gear and did not respond at all to throttle position.  Once I got
pulled over I tried to start it to no avail.

The other night I was leaning out my mixture with the ARC2 as I was getting
black smoke with my original
system and I may have gotten it too lean.  Exhaust gasses maxed out @
850c.(this has been normal for me)

My question is this:
 Is there some kind of switch in the ecu which will cut fuel if a lean
condition is detected and if so can
 I reset it by disconnecting the battery?   I am REALLY hoping I didn't lose
a timing belt.  However,
the Mitsu Service manager said that's what it sounded like when he turned
over the engine.


Any other ideas guys.  I know if anyone can help,  you can.

Troy
dead spyderman  :(


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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 20:48:13 -0400
From: "John T. Christian" <jczoom@iname.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Front wheel clunk (resubmission)

Hi all,

Could be a wheel bearing also.

Be of good cheer,
John

Ken Wheeler wrote:
>
> You're local Pep Boys or basic shop can press those in.  It's not a big
> deal.  Most of the time they'll do it for $5 or so.  The lower 'A' arm comes
> off real easy.  What's really fun is getting the tie rod off.  You'll need a
> "Fork" for that one because pound it out won't budge it.
>
> Ken Wheeler
> '92 RT/TT
> '67 Mustang
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jannusch, Matt" <mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
> To: "Team3S Stealth" <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 9:32 AM
> Subject: RE: Team3S: Front wheel clunk (resubmission)
>
> > > ...It probably is the ball joint.  If you are mechanically
> > > inclined, you can probably do the job in about an hour or so.
> >
> > Aren't the ball joints pressed into the A-arms?  And not available from
> > Mitsubishi (only aftermarket)?  You'd need to get them pressed out and new
> > ones pressed in = machine shop time.
> >
> > -Matt
> > '95 3000GT Spyder VR4
> >
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 20:58:51 -0400
From: "John T. Christian" <jczoom@iname.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Battery

Hi all,

Could I relocate the Red Top to my back seat without having to put it
into a battery 'cage'??

I'd like to relocate the battery for two reasons:
1.  Weight distribution
2.  the hot engine compartment cooks my battery in two or three years


BTW I don't have a back seat or much left of the interior.

Be of good cheer,
John


Roger Gerl wrote:
>
> >Lightweight and has more cranking amps than a regular Optima battery.
>
> The New Optima Red Top has 1050 AMP !!!!! Of course, on our cars this
> cranking power is not needed, hehe.
>
> I have this gel-battery in all my cars and it's the best I ever had.
> Smaller and more powerful than the stock sized batt.
>
> Roger
> 93'3000GT TT
> www.rtec.ch
>
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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 21:34:14 EDT
From: COMETOTHEZOO@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: ECU swap

Would there be any problems with swapping my ecu in my 94 VR4 with a 96 or
newer so that I can datalog? Other than the possibility of a couple pin swaps?

94 3000 VR4
http://hometown.aol.com/cometothezoo/
Mike Murray

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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 22:40:37 -0500
From: "cody" <overclck@flash.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Need Help!

Sounds like you blew a intercooler hose off to me.  Follow all the hoses,
making sure they are all in place.  I would start with the obvious places,
close to the intercoolers, the Y-Pipe, the front rubo, and then the rear
turbo is also a place to look...

- -Cody

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Browne, Troy E
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 6:25 PM
To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st; Browne, Troy E
Subject: Team3S: Need Help!



Hi Guys, Help!!

I have a '96 3000GT Spyder which I have modified with new 15G turbos, denso
720cc inj., ARC2 A/F,Apexi BC,
HKS intercoolers, HKS exhaust, and alamo downpipe.

The car has always been extremely dependable 'till now.  Today I was taking
a friend for a ride and was
running hard through third gear when the engine seemed to stutter at about
5k rpms.  I dropped it into
fourth and let off the gas only to find that the engine was completely dead.
It felt as if I was coasting while
in fourth gear and did not respond at all to throttle position.  Once I got
pulled over I tried to start it to no avail.

The other night I was leaning out my mixture with the ARC2 as I was getting
black smoke with my original
system and I may have gotten it too lean.  Exhaust gasses maxed out @
850c.(this has been normal for me)

My question is this:
 Is there some kind of switch in the ecu which will cut fuel if a lean
condition is detected and if so can
 I reset it by disconnecting the battery?   I am REALLY hoping I didn't lose
a timing belt.  However,
the Mitsu Service manager said that's what it sounded like when he turned
over the engine.


Any other ideas guys.  I know if anyone can help,  you can.

Troy
dead spyderman  :(


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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 23:07:32 -0500
From: "Vineet Singh (3S)" <stealthtt@ecanfix.com>
Subject: Team3S: Re: Info regarding "1995 VR-4 wastegate/blow off valve"

Not to sound mean or anything, but Dan, you should check this page
out,

http://www.rtec.ch/turbo_basics.html

Roger Gerl did a nice job on it, and it will teach anyone how the
turbo's work on our cars, and from that, you can infer what upgrade
path(s) you might want to try.

Vineet Singh
http://at.dsm.org - "Never Lift To Shift!"
http://chi.dsm.org - "ChicagoDSM - Go Fast With Class!"
http://manualcd.dsm.org - DSM & 3/S Service manuals on CDROM

>From: "Schilberg, Darren" <DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
>Subject: Team3S: 1995 VR-4 wastegate/blow off valve

>Is there only a wastegate on a stock 1995 VR-4?  How would a blow off
>valve connect and are they tunable?  I see some that are set to a
specific
>psi but what if I want it to open sooner or later?



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Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 23:46:14 -0500
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Need Help!

>> I have a '96 3000GT Spyder which I have modified with
>> new 15G turbos, denso 720cc inj., ARC2 A/F,Apexi BC,
>> HKS intercoolers, HKS exhaust, and alamo downpipe.

>> running hard through third gear when the engine seemed
>> to stutter at about 5k rpms.  I dropped it into fourth
>> and let off the gas only to find that the engine was
>> completely dead.  It felt as if I was coasting while
>> in fourth gear and did not respond at all to throttle
>> position.  Once I got pulled over I tried to start it
>> to no avail.

> Sounds like you blew a intercooler hose off to me.  Follow
> all the hoses, making sure they are all in place.  I
> would start with the obvious places, close to the
> intercoolers, the Y-Pipe, the front rubo, and then the
> rear turbo is also a place to look...

The car should still start (in limp-home mode) with intercooler hoses
disconnected.  If it doesn't start at all, check the fuses for ignition,
fuel pump, ECU, etc.  The stuttering in 3rd gear described earlier doesn't
sound particularly promising though.  Check the easily-checked stuff (fuses,
hoses, electrical connections to MAS, timing belt (remove top inspection
cover and make sure it is at least in one piece), etc).  Since you have an
ARC2, try disconnecting the MAF sensor leads from the ARC2 to the ECU and
reconnect the factory airflow meter and try starting the car without the
ARC2, but ONLY if you are sure the timing belt is okay.

If none of those suggestions pan out, perform a compression test to see what
sort of condition the pistons and rings are in.  I'm guessing at least
something on the list above will be the culprit though.  Unfortunately, it
sounds like you coasted down with the car in-gear and the clutch out in 4th
gear, so if the timing belt is broken there is a high probability that
you'll need to replace a lot of valves and potentially pistons.

Hopefully it is something simple though...

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 05:14:39 -0000
From: "Sue Smith" <saintsue@netzero.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Need Help!

I know this is off the subject, and the least of your worries right now, but
what psi and what gear where you picking up the 850C at?
- ----- Original Message -----
>  Exhaust gasses maxed out @
> 850c.(this has been normal for me)
>



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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 11:55:46 +0200
From: "Roger Gerl \(RTEC\)" <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: ECU swap

Hmmm, I'd not do this, OBDII at least incorporates more O2 sensors.

Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch

> Would there be any problems with swapping my ecu in my 94 VR4 with a 96 or
> newer so that I can datalog? Other than the possibility of a couple pin
swaps?



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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 12:06:33 +0200
From: "Roger Gerl \(RTEC\)" <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Need Help!

Sounds like the y-pipe connection to the TB to me. Even if it is HKS this
doesn't mean that everything is perfect and you don't mention if you have
stil lthe stock IC piping. No, the car will not fire up as the MAF will not
read any air flow and the ECU then doesn't inject any fuel when the main
pipe is off.

For the ECU it initiates fuel cut when there is too much knock or the
caluclated value fell off the fuel map. But this is not what you have
experienced.

To how much did you leaned it out ? What showed the ARM1 at WOT above 4800 ?

Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch


- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: "Browne, Troy E" <troy.e.browne@intel.com>
An: <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>; "Browne, Troy E" <troy.e.browne@intel.com>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 22. August 2000 01:24
Betreff: Team3S: Need Help!


>
> Hi Guys, Help!!
>
> I have a '96 3000GT Spyder which I have modified with new 15G turbos,
denso
> 720cc inj., ARC2 A/F,Apexi BC,
> HKS intercoolers, HKS exhaust, and alamo downpipe.



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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 08:45:51 -0400
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Re: Info regarding "1995 VR-4 wastegate/blow off valv e"

Vineet,

   Not to be mean, but the name is Darren (and hence why the nickname
"Flash" is easier to remember).  I did read his page as it was the first
thing I printed out.  He does a great job explaining for a boost controller
or manually adjustable valve, but for stock locations and what goes where I
needed to refer to the Manuals on CD that I have from you.  It took someone
else to tell me that the BOV is actually called a "Turbocharger bypass
valve."  This was a bit misleading but I did manage to locate this on my car
last night.
   Could someone please tell me, from page 15-9 on the CD Manual for "Air
Cleaner" what the heck items 19 (Purge hose connection) and 21 (Boost hose
connection) are or where they go?  Also, are items 16 (Breather hose) and 17
(Vacuum hose connection) the parts used for the turbo bypass valve (aka BOV)
to determine the pressure difference for operation?
   In conclusion, it was mostly a misunderstanding of what the words meant
(bypass valve instead of BOV), etc.  I am learning more and more now and I
appreciate everyone's time.  Sorry to be such a bother.

- --Flash!
dschilberg@freemarkets.com

3Si #577
1995 Black VR-4 w/ K&N FIPK and a Valentine One
http://www.ec3s.org/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi

- -----Original Message-----
From: Vineet Singh (3S) [mailto:stealthtt@ecanfix.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 12:08 AM
To: Team3S
Subject: Team3S: Re: Info regarding "1995 VR-4 wastegate/blow off
valve"

Not to sound mean or anything, but Dan, you should check this page
out,

http://www.rtec.ch/turbo_basics.html

Roger Gerl did a nice job on it, and it will teach anyone how the
turbo's work on our cars, and from that, you can infer what upgrade
path(s) you might want to try.

Vineet Singh
http://at.dsm.org - "Never Lift To Shift!"
http://chi.dsm.org - "ChicagoDSM - Go Fast With Class!"
http://manualcd.dsm.org - DSM & 3/S Service manuals on CDROM


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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 06:12:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Lucius <stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: ECU swap

When I talked to the parts manager at one of the local dealerships,
he said every year and model has a different ECU. This does not mean
that you cannot swap them but suggests that the Mitsu did not intend
for them to be swapped. Many changes occurred between 1994 and 1996
concerning fuel management and monitoring (that pesky OBDII stuff).

Jeff Lucius, 3SI #476
Stealth 316
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- ----- Original Message -----
From: <COMETOTHEZOO@aol.com>
To: <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 7:34 PM
Subject: Team3S: ECU swap

Would there be any problems with swapping my ecu in my 94 VR4 with a
96 or newer so that I can datalog? Other than the possibility of a
couple pin swaps?

94 3000 VR4
http://hometown.aol.com/cometothezoo/
Mike Murray


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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 08:22:13 -0500
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: ECU swap

> When I talked to the parts manager at one of the local dealerships,
> he said every year and model has a different ECU. This does not mean
> that you cannot swap them but suggests that the Mitsu did not intend
> for them to be swapped. Many changes occurred between 1994 and 1996
> concerning fuel management and monitoring (that pesky OBDII stuff).

Hmmm...  How about on a CA emissions '95 with 4 O2 sensors and all that
stuff?  I think the only thing mine is missing is the little thing that
plugs into the "hole" on the intake plenum - some sort of EGR valve or
something that kinda sticks out the top near the back of the plenum.  I have
the hole (not fully machined out), but no sensor.

I guess I should do some digging in the super-sweet 3/S Backup Manual CD.
:-)

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 08:28:19 -0500
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Need Help!

> No, the car will not fire up as the MAF will not
> read any air flow and the ECU then doesn't inject
> any fuel when the main pipe is off.

Actually, I think I was partially right (and partially wrong) the car should
start, but the quality of it running will be super-poor.  When the turbos
start spinning (which they will if there's no backpressure stopping them
from spinning) the MAF sensor will read way too much air and the motor will
likely stop running because it is much too rich.

It actually will start with the MAF disconnected - you can even drive the
car - sorta.  At least a '95 Spyder VR4 will.  You can probably guess how I
know, the story starts with a K&N...  ;-)

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 16:01:55 +0200
From: Roger Gerl <roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject: RE: Team3S: ECU swap

Jeff exactlyh it the point, I only add a little to the "hole" in the plenum.

>Hmmm...  How about on a CA emissions '95 with 4 O2 sensors and all that
>stuff?  I think the only thing mine is missing is the little thing that
>plugs into the "hole" on the intake plenum - some sort of EGR valve or
>something that kinda sticks out the top near the back of the plenum.  I have
>the hole (not fully machined out), but no sensor.

The sensor that is in this "hole" (when it is fully bored) is a MAP
(manifold absolute pressure) sensor that is only used in late models and in
California. Therefore, one could think that the late model ECU can read MAP
and this is true... but it is only used to control emissons and nothing
else :(

Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch


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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 16:44:09 +0200
From: Jim Matthews <jim@the-matthews.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Need Help!

"Jannusch, Matt" wrote:
>
> It actually will start with the MAF disconnected - you can even drive the
> car - sorta.  At least a '95 Spyder VR4 will.  You can probably guess how I
> know, the story starts with a K&N...  ;-)
>
> -Matt
> '95 3000GT Spyder VR4

I have a similar story that starts with a K&N, but in my case a fuse blew a few
days after installation (apparently because I hadn't disconnected the battery to
reset the ECU and it saw too much air) and I was dead on the side of the road.
A simple fix, but it cost me a tow and a $195 troubleshooting visit to the Dodge
dealer!  That's one EXPENSIVE fuse, but I'd expected worse and was happy to
shell it out and cut my losses...

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Jet Black '94 Dodge Stealth R/T Twin-Turbo AWD AWS 6-spd
Adjustable Active Suspension, Adjustable Exhaust System
K&N FIPK, A'PEXi Super AVC-R (1.0 bar @ 64% BADC)
A'PEXi Turbo Timer (30 sec), Blitz Blow-Off Valve
Magnecore spark plug wires, Redline fluids (trans, xfer, diff)
Porterfield cryo-treated rotors, RS4 pads, braided lines
Michelin Pilot XGT-Z4 245/45ZR17, Top Speed: 171 mph
G-Tech Pro: 0-60 4.79 sec, 1/4 13.16 sec @ 113.9 mph
1 Feb 99 Dyno Session: 406 SAE HP, 354 lb-ft torque


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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 08:29:46 -0700
From: "Browne, Troy E" <troy.e.browne@intel.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Need Help!

I was running at 1.15bar in 3rd gear.  Exhaust heats up rapidly when on high
boost.

Troy

- -----Original Message-----
From: Sue Smith [mailto:saintsue@netzero.net]
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 10:15 PM
To: Browne, Troy E
Cc: Team 3/S List
Subject: Re: Team3S: Need Help!


I know this is off the subject, and the least of your worries right now, but
what psi and what gear where you picking up the 850C at?
- ----- Original Message -----
>  Exhaust gasses maxed out @
> 850c.(this has been normal for me)
>



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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 10:33:27 -0500
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Need Help!

> I was running at 1.15bar in 3rd gear.  Exhaust heats up rapidly
> when on high boost.

Water injection or race fuel, or do you know you've eliminated knock?

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 11:39:00 -0400
From: "Bill Miller" <millebi@kw.igs.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Active Exhaust RT-Turbo

Hi Ian,

I've found that if you just jack up the driver's side rear you have enough room to get your hand in
around the actuator for the exhaust. I personally had another person's help so you don't have to go
up and down for the next step. To unstick mine I would squirt it with WD40 (or any other
penetrating oil) and have someone pull on the cable from the trunk, I'd then give it a push with a
screw driver to pull the cable back. You just keep doing this back and forth with a squirt now and
again and it will start moving quite nicely.

I have just recently discovered that the return spring on my actuator has broken so I'm stuck in
Sport mode. I attempted to replace the spring but it isn't strong enough to close it. The spring
must be one of the type that is quite strong at the first third of it's pull and weaker after it
gets longer, I replaced it with something that's stronger the longer you pull it. Hopefully your
spring is ok.

Bill
91 TT "Old Red"

On 18 Aug 2000, at 14:23, Ian marks wrote:

> I was hoping someone could direct me as to how to free up the active exhaust
> valve/switch for my Stealth. I remember someone had a webpage with the
> procedure decribed on it but I don't have that bookmarked anymore.
> Thanks
> Ian Marks
> '94 RT turbo
> Los Angeles

Humpty Dumpty was pushed...

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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 16:43:50 +0100
From: Gordon Tyrrell <gordon.tyrrell@openet-int.com>
Subject: Team3S: Anyone know an NSX site

I'm looking to find a Honda NSX website (preferably in Europe).
Does anyone know of one?

Thanks
Gordon
Dublin, Ireland
1993 Japanese Import VR4

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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 11:52:47 -0400
From: "Schilberg, Darren" <DSchilberg@freemarkets.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Anyone know an NSX site

http://www.webring.org/cgi-bin/webring?ring=nsxring&list

- --Flash!
dschilberg@freemarkets.com

3Si #577
1995 Black VR-4 w/ K&N FIPK and a Valentine One
http://www.ec3s.org/cgi-bin/gallery.cgi
http://www.3kgt.com <http://www.3kgt.com>  - "Car pictures" then "Readers'
4" page

- -----Original Message-----
From: Gordon Tyrrell [mailto:gordon.tyrrell@openet-int.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 11:44 AM
To: gto
Subject: Team3S: Anyone know an NSX site

I'm looking to find a Honda NSX website (preferably in Europe).
Does anyone know of one?

Thanks
Gordon
Dublin, Ireland
1993 Japanese Import VR4

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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 09:12:34 -0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Team3S: ...NSX site?  Big Red Brakes for 3S, too...

- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gordon Tyrrell"
<gordon.tyrrell@openet-int.com>
>Subject: Team3S: Anyone know an NSX site
> I'm looking to find a Honda NSX website (preferably in Europe).
> Does anyone know of one?
> Gordon  > Dublin, Ireland     > 1993 Japanese Import VR4


There's a NSX site that comes out of Germany - looks like it's heavy
with a Big Red Porsche brake upgrade from Mov'It:
http://movit.de/htm/nsxreasi.htm

One of the links got me to a Stealth/3000GT page with a Big Red upgrade
for our cars, too...
http://movit.de/htm/stealth.htm

Lots more sites listed if you do a search on altavista.com for "Honda
NSX"...

I still contend that the NSX design was stolen from Dodge's original
design for the Stealth in 1984/5 or so...  The NSX picture there is a
ringer for the mid-engine, 4-banger hemi, 3S prototype...

Best,

Forrest





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Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2000 09:15:40 -0700
From: "Browne, Troy E" <troy.e.browne@intel.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Need Help!

Roger,

I have the GTPRO Y-pipe and HKS hard pipe kit and from the top all hoses
looked to be in place.
I have yet to look down by the intercoolers for a popped hose.

One more thing.  I added octane boost in my last fill up.(20 miles ago) to
reduce possibility of
knock.

When I had the ARC2 installed the shop had been working on my car for 8
weeks.  As such I was getting
quite iritated and ready to get my car back.  The mechanic had installed
everything except the ARM1
stating that I would burn up my engine if I used the thing but if I wanted
to leave the car a couple
more days he would get to it.  Well,  I just took the unit home with me to
get away from that place
and never installed it, so to answer your question, I don't know what the
mixture was.


- -----Original Message-----
From: Roger Gerl (RTEC) [mailto:roger.gerl@bluewin.ch]
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 3:07 AM
To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: Re: Team3S: Need Help!


Sounds like the y-pipe connection to the TB to me. Even if it is HKS this
doesn't mean that everything is perfect and you don't mention if you have
stil lthe stock IC piping. No, the car will not fire up as the MAF will not
read any air flow and the ECU then doesn't inject any fuel when the main
pipe is off.

For the ECU it initiates fuel cut when there is too much knock or the
caluclated value fell off the fuel map. But this is not what you have
experienced.

To how much did you leaned it out ? What showed the ARM1 at WOT above 4800 ?

Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch


- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: "Browne, Troy E" <troy.e.browne@intel.com>
An: <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>; "Browne, Troy E" <troy.e.browne@intel.com>
Gesendet: Dienstag, 22. August 2000 01:24
Betreff: Team3S: Need Help!


>
> Hi Guys, Help!!
>
> I have a '96 3000GT Spyder which I have modified with new 15G turbos,
denso
> 720cc inj., ARC2 A/F,Apexi BC,
> HKS intercoolers, HKS exhaust, and alamo downpipe.



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