team3s
Tuesday, July 25
2000
Volume 01 : Number
213
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Date:
Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:19:05 -0400
From: "Michael" <
mdorsey@mindspring.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Conversions / Traction Control
I disagree. My friend
has a galant VR4 with a "stutterbox". The way he
explained it, is that
it changes the rev limiter down to a set value (say
5K) when the vehicle is
not moving and reverts to normal when the vehicle is
in motion. I
haven't actually seen it, but he tells me it allows his 20G
turbo to
partially spool up for the launch.
Michael
98 VR4
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-----Original Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st[
mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of Geoff Mohler
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 4:06
To:
team3s@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
Re: Team3S: Conversions / Traction Control
Ive sent a request for
more data for my Supra.
However..I did point out a stupid ugly error of
thiers.
They claim that by using thier unit as a launch rev-limiter
(which IS
cool) you can just nail the gas to say 4k rpm, and watch boost
climb.
*bzzz*
Wrong. We'll see what they have to say
about my comments on that.
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 08:27:38
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From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Conversions / Traction Control
I would agree that it allows
the turbo to spinn UP (shaft rpm) but boost?
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Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Michael wrote:
> I disagree. My friend has a
galant VR4 with a "stutterbox". The way he
> explained it, is that
it changes the rev limiter down to a set value (say
> 5K) when the vehicle
is not moving and reverts to normal when the vehicle is
> in motion.
I haven't actually seen it, but he tells me it allows his 20G
> turbo to
partially spool up for the launch.
>
> Michael
> 98
VR4
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
[
mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of Geoff Mohler
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 4:06
> To:
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Conversions / Traction Control
>
>
>
Ive sent a request for more data for my Supra.
>
> However..I did
point out a stupid ugly error of thiers.
>
>
> They claim
that by using thier unit as a launch rev-limiter (which IS
> cool) you can
just nail the gas to say 4k rpm, and watch boost climb.
>
>
> *bzzz*
>
> Wrong. We'll see what they have to say
about my comments on that.
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:23:13
-0400
From: "Michael" <
mdorsey@mindspring.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Conversions / Traction Control
I was also told me that I
could have my 3S bounce off the normal rev limiter
and watch it build
boost. I just haven't been brave enough to try it, and
definately
wouldn't risk a launch that way.
Michael
98 VR4
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From:
owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st[
mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of Geoff Mohler
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 11:20
To: Jannusch,
Matt
Cc:
team3s@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
RE: Team3S: Conversions / Traction Control
Yer kidding.
Ive
honestly never seen a turbo motor ever build boost W/O load.
Im wanting
to understand why that happens..on your car..etc.
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:27:33
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From: "Stephen C. Kempf" <
kempfsc@mail.auburn.edu>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Valve/cam timing, is that the problem?
Cody,
I
followed your suggestion and removed the timing belt covers to check the
cam
timing on my Stealth. What I found rather scares me, but I want to
make sure
I've got it right before I express my concerns to the dealer.
Looking at
the "back" (the side closest to the head) of the cam gears I
found two "sets"
of marks on each gear. A single groove and opposite 2
adjacent grooves. I
assume that these gears can be used on either the
exhaust or intake side, but
that when properly installed, on the front
bank, the single groove should
line up with the tip of the "triangular"
shaped pointer on the exhaust side
of the head and the double grooves
should each line up with the left and
right edges of the "square" shaped
pointer on the intake side of the head
while on the back bank the intake
gear single groove lines up with the tip of
the "triangular" shaped
pointer on the intake side and the double groove with
the "square" shaped
pointer on the exhaust side. Assumming this is correct,
the cams on the
front bank are right on; however, when the timing marks are
properly
aligned on the front bank, the ones on the cams on the rear bank are
as
follows. The double groove on the exhaust side of the rear bank is
right
on the mark, the single groove on the intake side is 5 gear teeth
advanced
(rotated toward the front of the engine). Arrrrrrrrrrgh!
#%$@**&%$#$%++!!
This concerns me, because it's so far off that there
might be potential
for valve damage. What do you think? I'm don't want to go
back to the
dealer until I have this documented and know where I stand. And,
of
course, who knows what happened on the crankshaft end of the
belt
installation.
I addressed this to Cody, but replies from anyone
are welcome.
Thanks,
Steve
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:27:53
-0400
From: "Michael" <
mdorsey@mindspring.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Conversions / Traction Control
I just tried bouncing my 3S
off the rev-limiter. No boost. My friend does
swear by the
stutterbox though. I'll see if I can get some more details
from
him.
Michael
98 VR4
- -----Original Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st[
mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of Michael
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 11:23
To:
team3s@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
RE: Team3S: Conversions / Traction Control
I was also told me that I
could have my 3S bounce off the normal rev limiter
and watch it build
boost. I just haven't been brave enough to try it, and
definately
wouldn't risk a launch that way.
Michael
98 VR4
-
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From:
owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st[
mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of Geoff Mohler
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 11:20
To: Jannusch,
Matt
Cc:
team3s@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
RE: Team3S: Conversions / Traction Control
Yer kidding.
Ive
honestly never seen a turbo motor ever build boost W/O load.
Im wanting
to understand why that happens..on your car..etc.
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 08:30:13
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From:
jeff.mohler@netapp.comSubject: RE:
Team3S: Conversions / Traction Control
Im taking an edukashun on this in
other places too.
*hmm...*
- -----Original
Message-----
From: Geoff Mohler [
mailto:gemohler@www.speedtoys.com]
Sent:
Tuesday, July 25, 2000 8:28 AM
To: Michael
Cc:
team3s@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
RE: Team3S: Conversions / Traction Control
I would agree that it
allows the turbo to spinn UP (shaft rpm) but boost?
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Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Michael wrote:
> I disagree. My friend has a
galant VR4 with a "stutterbox". The way he
> explained it, is that
it changes the rev limiter down to a set value (say
> 5K) when the vehicle
is not moving and reverts to normal when the vehicle is
> in motion.
I haven't actually seen it, but he tells me it allows his 20G
> turbo to
partially spool up for the launch.
>
> Michael
> 98
VR4
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
[
mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of Geoff Mohler
> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 4:06
> To:
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Conversions / Traction Control
>
>
>
Ive sent a request for more data for my Supra.
>
> However..I did
point out a stupid ugly error of thiers.
>
>
> They claim
that by using thier unit as a launch rev-limiter (which IS
> cool) you can
just nail the gas to say 4k rpm, and watch boost climb.
>
>
> *bzzz*
>
> Wrong. We'll see what they have to say
about my comments on that.
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 10:40:18
-0500
From: "cody" <
overclck@flash.net>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Valve/cam timing, is that the problem?
Well, it sounds liek I was
right about your problem then... as I told you
before, if there would
be any valve damage related to this, it owuld have
already happened.
unless it was to get off the timing marks even further.
That would be rare
unless the tensioner has failed.
- - Take pictures if you can of the
timing marks. that way you can show the
dealer what happened without
taking the car apart in front of them. Then
demand they fix it.
they broke it, they fix it - simple as that. If they
refute, or say
everything is OK, is the car still under warranty?
If so, find another
Dodge/Chrysler dealership to do the work free of charge.
-
-Cody
- -----Original Message-----
From: Stephen C. Kempf [
mailto:kempfsc@mail.auburn.edu]
Sent:
Tuesday, July 25, 2000 10:29 AM
To: cody
Subject: RE: Team3S: Valve/cam
timing, is that the problem?
Cody,
I followed your suggestion
and removed the timing belt covers to check the
cam timing on my Stealth.
What I found rather scares me, but I want to
make sure I've got it right
before I express my concerns to the dealer.
Looking at the "back" (the
side closest to the head) of the cam gears I
found two "sets" of marks on
each gear. A single groove and opposite 2
adjacent grooves. I assume that
these gears can be used on either the
exhaust or intake side, but that when
properly installed, on the front
bank, the single groove should line up with
the tip of the "triangular"
shaped pointer on the exhaust side of the head
and the double grooves
should each line up with the left and right edges of
the "square" shaped
pointer on the intake side of the head while on the back
bank the intake
gear single groove lines up with the tip of the "triangular"
shaped
pointer on the intake side and the double groove with the "square"
shaped
pointer on the exhaust side. Assumming this is correct, the cams on
the
front bank are right on; however, when the timing marks are
properly
aligned on the front bank, the ones on the cams on the rear bank are
as
follows. The double groove on the exhaust side of the rear bank is
right
on the mark, the single groove on the intake side is 5 gear teeth
advanced
(rotated toward the front of the engine). Arrrrrrrrrrgh!
#%$@**&%$#$%++!!
This concerns me, because it's so far off that there
might be potential
for valve damage. What do you think? I'm don't want to go
back to the
dealer until I have this documented and know where I stand. And,
of
course, who knows what happened on the crankshaft end of the
belt
installation.
I addressed this to Cody, but replies from anyone
are welcome.
Thanks,
Steve
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:20:20
-0400
From: "Dave Holden" <
dholden@deadkenny.northern-lights.bc.ca>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Valve/cam timing, is that the problem?
Stephen,
I had
the same problem with my car and it cost me 6 bent intake valves and a
head
job. Since your car still runs ( mine would not even fire ) you
are
probably OK. I think 5 teeth is right on the margin of the
"no
interference" zone.
Regards,
Dave Holden
Pearl White '91
R/T
Vancouver, BC
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
[
mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of Stephen C. Kempf
> cams on the
> front bank are right on;
however, when the timing marks are properly
> aligned on the front bank,
the ones on the cams on the rear
> bank are as
> follows. The double
groove on the exhaust side of the rear
> bank is right
> on the
mark, the single groove on the intake side is 5 gear
> teeth
advanced
> (rotated toward the front of the engine).
Arrrrrrrrrrgh!
> #%$@**&%$#$%++!!
>
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 19:05:13
+0100
From: George Shaw <
george.shaw@btinternet.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Traction Control
OK
I have bought a full traction control
system from
http://www.racelogic.co.uk for the 1995
3KGT Twin Turbo.
I will detail and get photos of the install and setup
for any that are
intersted. I will also run before/after times to see what
differance it makes.
I also bought (god help the credit card this month)
a set of Blitz Type-03
18x9 wheels and Yoko AVS Sport 235/40 R18 (wheels
were £470 each and the
rubber was £199 each Plus VAT at 17.5% stuff is dear
in the UK). I am now
after a Bomex aero kit to set it off. Next is a HID
conversion and a full
alarm/security fit. If anyone wants me to details all
the mods as I do them
just ask.
He goes the next few weeks of spare
time:-)
Can anyone answer my question on weather a manual sunroof can be
converted
to electric?? How? What is needed? Also the passenger side window
changed
to express operation just like the drivers
side?
George
TacTic
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:48:03
-0500
From: "Jannusch, Matt" <
mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Traction Control
> OK
> I have bought a full
traction control system from
>
http://www.racelogic.co.uk for the 1995
3KGT Twin Turbo.
Why would you want to add traction control to an AWD
car? I don't
understand... I've never had traction problems in
any street situation at
all. ????? I've done an AWD burnout in
the bleach box at the dragstrip,
but that's a different story...
-
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'95 3000GT Spyder VR4
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:01:43
-0700 (PDT)
From: Matt Wise <
diranged@south-park.cc>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Traction Control
My thoughts exactly.. traction control on an
awd car? Uhhhhhhh.... When
was your last checkup? Please go again..
On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, Jannusch, Matt wrote:
> > OK
>
> I have bought a full traction control system from
> >
http://www.racelogic.co.uk for the 1995
3KGT Twin Turbo.
>
> Why would you want to add traction control to
an AWD car? I don't
> understand... I've never had traction
problems in any street situation at
> all. ????? I've done an
AWD burnout in the bleach box at the dragstrip,
> but that's a different
story...
>
> -Matt
> '95 3000GT Spyder VR4
>
>
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:46:35
-0700
From:
jeff.mohler@netapp.comSubject: RE:
Team3S: Traction Control
George:
Without looking up in the roof
itself it would be hard to tell if the hole is
the same size..etc.
But
while dis-asembling our 95 VR4, I noticed that the elec. roof is held
in
quite easily with just a few simple bolts.
I have the entire unit,
bolts, ancors, switches, motors and wiring from swith to
motor just layin
aropund waiting for a new home.
- -----Original Message-----
From:
George Shaw [
mailto:george.shaw@btinternet.com]
Sent:
Tuesday, July 25, 2000 11:05 AM
To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
Team3S: Traction Control
OK
I have bought a full traction control
system from
http://www.racelogic.co.uk for the 1995
3KGT Twin Turbo.
I will detail and get photos of the install and setup
for any that are
intersted. I will also run before/after times to see what
differance it makes.
I also bought (god help the credit card this month)
a set of Blitz Type-03
18x9 wheels and Yoko AVS Sport 235/40 R18 (wheels
were £470 each and the
rubber was £199 each Plus VAT at 17.5% stuff is dear
in the UK). I am now
after a Bomex aero kit to set it off. Next is a HID
conversion and a full
alarm/security fit. If anyone wants me to details all
the mods as I do them
just ask.
He goes the next few weeks of spare
time:-)
Can anyone answer my question on weather a manual sunroof can be
converted
to electric?? How? What is needed? Also the passenger side window
changed
to express operation just like the drivers
side?
George
TacTic
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 12:49:50
PDT
From: "Ryan Meador" <
captainrye@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Team3S: 3" Active Exhaust?
Anyone- Is it feasable to extrude the stock
intake opening in our active
exhaust mufflers and weld a 3" pipe to it? Then
do the same to the exhaust
openings??? Is the exhaust big enough on the
inside to handle this? Is it
free-flowing enough to be worth it? I know that
sounds illogical, but I
really enjoy the quieter exhaust tone when not
playing hard but would also
like the benefit of 3" when needed. No flames
please- just a reality check.
I'm trying to have my cake and eat it
too.
Ryan '93
VR4
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:57:16
-0400
From: Brian Geisel <
brian.geisel@compaq.com>
Subject:
Team3S: OEM Parts
Where is the best place for me to find OEM parts?
I need to get a
throwout bearing for a '94 3000GT VR-4, anyone have any
good
suggestions? I've heard there's a dealership in TN, but I don't
know
the number. Anyone?
TIA,
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:08:50
-0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Lucius <
stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: 3" Active Exhaust?
I think if you are still using the stock
downpipe, pre-cats, main
cat, and muffler, there is not much to gain
performance-wise by
attaching a few 3" pipes to the stock muffler. The stock
cat-back
exhaust pipes are almost 3 inches in diameter, at least to
the
muffler. I have some comparisons of the stock and ATR systems at
the
link below.
http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius/2-atr.htmTo
have your cake and eat it too, you might consider gutting the
pre-cats,
adding an aftermarket downpipe, and replacing the main-cat
with a
high-flow version. These are the main restrictions. The car
would still look
stock (except from below) and I don't think the
noise would increase much at
all.
Jeff Lucius, 3SI #476
Stealth 316
-->
http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius/-
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From: "Ryan Meador" <
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To:
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Sent:
Tuesday, July 25, 2000 1:49 PM
Subject: Team3S: 3" Active
Exhaust?
Anyone- Is it feasable to extrude the stock intake opening in
our
active exhaust mufflers and weld a 3" pipe to it? Then do the same
to
the exhaust openings??? Is the exhaust big enough on the inside
to
handle this? Is it free-flowing enough to be worth it? I know
that
sounds illogical, but I really enjoy the quieter exhaust tone
when
not playing hard but would also like the benefit of 3" when
needed.
No flames please- just a reality check. I'm trying to have my
cake
and eat it too.
Ryan '93
VR4
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:15:10
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From: Jeff Lucius <
stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: OEM Parts
Check out the Garage page at my website for some of
the more popular
places to order new (OEM) or used parts. I have personally
used Tall
Mitsu several times. They have great prices, knowledgeable staff,
and
are reliable. Compare their prices to your local dealers; you'll
see.
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Links page has over 400 links, including many, many
aftermarket
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From: "Brian Geisel" <
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To:
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Sent:
Tuesday, July 25, 2000 1:57 PM
Subject: Team3S: OEM Parts
Where is the
best place for me to find OEM parts? I need to get a
throwout bearing
for a '94 3000GT VR-4, anyone have any good
suggestions? I've heard
there's a dealership in TN, but I don't know
the number.
Anyone?
TIA,
geis
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:31:12
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From: "Ryan Meador" <
captainrye@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: 3" Active Exhaust?
I just gutted my pre-cats and just bought
an Extreme Technologies downpipe.
So I'm at the point where I need to decide
what I'm going to do with the
main cat and back. I could go aftermarket
(Greddy/HKS) or go custom
(actually cheaper). Just wondering if saving the
active exhaust was possible
or if the muffler would restrict what I've
worked so hard to free up. Truth
is, I simply don't want to sound like a
punk in a wussy 4-banger with a 6
inch tip hanging off the back. You've all
seen them...or at least heard
them...
Ryan
'93 VR4
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From: Jeff Lucius <
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To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.stSubject:
Re: Team3S: 3" Active Exhaust?
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:08:50 -0700
(PDT)
I think if you are still using the stock downpipe, pre-cats,
main
cat, and muffler, there is not much to gain performance-wise
by
attaching a few 3" pipes to the stock muffler. The stock
cat-back
exhaust pipes are almost 3 inches in diameter, at least to
the
muffler. I have some comparisons of the stock and ATR systems at
the
link below.
http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius/2-atr.htmTo
have your cake and eat it too, you might consider gutting the
pre-cats,
adding an aftermarket downpipe, and replacing the main-cat
with a
high-flow version. These are the main restrictions. The car
would still look
stock (except from below) and I don't think the
noise would increase much at
all.
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From: "Ryan Meador" <
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To:
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Sent:
Tuesday, July 25, 2000 1:49 PM
Subject: Team3S: 3" Active
Exhaust?
Anyone- Is it feasable to extrude the stock intake opening in
our
active exhaust mufflers and weld a 3" pipe to it? Then do the same
to
the exhaust openings??? Is the exhaust big enough on the inside
to
handle this? Is it free-flowing enough to be worth it? I know
that
sounds illogical, but I really enjoy the quieter exhaust tone
when
not playing hard but would also like the benefit of 3" when
needed.
No flames please- just a reality check. I'm trying to have my
cake
and eat it too.
Ryan '93
VR4
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 15:58:57
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From: "Jannusch, Matt" <
mjannusch@marketwatch.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: 3" Active Exhaust?
> Just wondering if saving the active
exhaust was possible
> or if the muffler would restrict what I've worked
so hard
> to free up. Truth is, I simply don't want to sound like
a
> punk in a wussy 4-banger with a 6 inch tip hanging off the
>
back. You've all seen them...or at least heard them...
I'd dump the stock
exhaust completely. Get a high-flow cat and some form of
cat-back
exhaust. I have the Borla setup and I can tell you that it in no
way
sounds "wussy" or like a Honda, which is what I assume you mean.
It
actually sounds nearly V8-like with the pre-cats gutted and the
high-flow
cat on. On deceleration I get a nice rumble, and a smooth low
note while
cruising. On hard acceleration it sounds just plain
mean. The stock
exhaust sounds like a vacuum cleaner and I'm glad my
car doesn't have it on
there anymore...
- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder
VR4
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 17:14:28
-0400
From: Brian Geisel <
brian.geisel@compaq.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: OEM Parts
Dude,
I just called Tall
Mitsu and they were awesome. I talked to Jeremy
and
he's 1 day
shipping me the clutch throwout bearing. Sweet! Thanx
man
geis
Jeff Lucius wrote:
> Check out the Garage page
at my website for some of the more popular
> places to order new (OEM) or
used parts. I have personally used Tall
> Mitsu several times. They have
great prices, knowledgeable staff, and
> are reliable. Compare their
prices to your local dealers; you'll see.
>
>
http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius/1-repair.htm>
>
The Links page has over 400 links, including many, many aftermarket
>
suppliers.
>
> Jeff Lucius, 3SI #476
> Stealth
316
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>
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> From: "Brian Geisel" <
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>
To: <
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team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 1:57 PM
> Subject: Team3S: OEM
Parts
>
> Where is the best place for me to find OEM parts? I
need to get a
> throwout bearing for a '94 3000GT VR-4, anyone have any
good
> suggestions? I've heard there's a dealership in TN, but I
don't know
> the number. Anyone?
>
> TIA,
>
geis
>
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 20:14:26
-0400
From: Eric J Totten <
spankis@juno.com>
Subject: Team3S:
digital climate control
I was wondering if its possible to put the
digital climate control system
in a '91 ES that is currently without, mostly
if its an easy procedure
or a quick switch..
Eric
'91 Red ES
DOHC
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 21:27:34
EDT
From:
Zeoswolf@aol.comSubject:
Re: Team3S: Valve/cam timing, is that the problem?
In a message dated
7/23/00 3:03:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
kempfsc@mail.auburn.edu
writes:
<< Just as background, I taken care of the few problems
I've had with this
car immediately as they occur. I do my own oil and
filter changes every
3000 miles, which has kept the engine running "as
new" until recently as I
approached the 60,000 mile mark. As I
approached this mileage, I started
to get some missing and a decrease
in power, but I figured this was only
normal since that is the
recommended mileage for new plugs and, of course,
a timing belt.
Unfortunately, this is where my problems began. I took the
car into the
dealer for this major service and after paying a hefty bill,
got my car
back, again still running "as new" (So far so good).
Unfortunately,
the dealer didn't mention that it would be a good idea to
install a new
water pump and belt tensioner at the same time as the new
timing belt
(I really should have thought of this myself, just too many
years away
from this sort of work I guess), and after a couple of weeks,
the water
pump started leaking and the tensioner "squeaking". Fortunately
(?),
the car was still covered (just barely) by my original 7 year
Chrysler
service contract, so I returned it to the dealer for the
necessary
repairs. The new tensioner and water pump were installed;
however, it
took two weeks and it was fairly clear that the mechanics
didn't enjoy
having to work on the car. When they finally finished the
job, I drove
the car home and discovered it no longer ran smoothly, lacked
power
(felt like it was dragging a lead weight), and the exhaust note had
a
"hollow" or "flat" sound and was louder than normal under
acceleration
(though this did not appear to be due to an exhaust leak).
Upon further
inspection, I found that many of the cam and timing cover
bolts were only
finger tight and that there was a dent in the oil pan
that appeared to be
due to the engine being jacked up from underneath.
As you might guess, I
was not a happy camper. After properly tightening
all the loose bolts I
could find (the ones I couldn't get to and check
worry me) I returned the
car to the dealer, but rather than make an
issue out of everything, I
suggested that when the timing belt was
reinstalled or retensioned after
the water pump installation that the
mechanic probably didn't get the
valve/cam timing "spot on". Trusting
soul that I am, I also marked the cam
and belt cover bolts so I would
know whether or not they really took the
covers off to check and see if
the valve/cam timing was right. Four days
later I got the car back
again and was told that it was all just an
ignition timing problem,
that they had taken the covers off and checked
the valve/cam timing and
that was OK, and that the car now had plenty of
power (I guess they
figured that telling me this would make it so). The
drive home revealed
that all the problems were still present and the car
probably would
have hard time out accelerating a Neon. When I checked the
engine after
arriving home it was clear that neither the timing belt nor
cam covers
had been removed (the marked bolts were still in exactly the
same
position as when I took the car in).
>>
well that
day has come where i brought my car back to the dealership for this
same
problem and alas.. they said everything checked out 100%. i just dont
understand it, i seem to have a loss of power and my exhaust sounds just
like
what steve kempf described.. i just put on my stillen hi flow intake
right
after i got it home and that seemed to help out quite a bit... but
damn, is
it supposed to be that LOUD!! anyone with ideas on any of
these problems,
cuz i guess cam timing wasnt the problem unless the
dealership's little
computer analysis thingy lied to us. PLEASE
HELP!!!!!!
james
94R/T
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