team3s
Saturday, July 15
2000
Volume 01 : Number
201
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Date:
Fri, 14 Jul 2000 18:46:59 -0700
From: "Vineet Singh" <
billi_gates@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Team3S: A lot of posts, but no way to answer them...
I'm posting this to
both lists that I am on because about 3 weeks ago,
I lost my harddisk, and
subsequently my emails and other stuff. A day
after losing everything, I went
on vacation for 2 weeks. I have JUST
pieced my computer back together, and am
almost 100% up to speed, but
I do remember posting about some stuff earlier,
regarding knock
sensors and about CD's.
If you have any questions, and
have been trying to email me, please
resend the email. Hotmail stopped
accepting new emails after my box
got flooded with posts, so I believe I
never received some emails
after or around the 4rth.
If you have been
waiting for a CD, thank you for your patience, they
all left either
Wednesday, or will leave today (Friday), I'm sure you
can understand my
situation... All this and on top of that, my dogs
almost died because the
"house sitters" left them for 3 days with no
food and water, kinda makes your
vacation not so fun!
Thanks!
Vineet Singh
http://manualcd.com - DSM & 3/S Service
manuals on CDROM
http://eaglecars.com -
Eagle info
http://at.dsm.org - "Never Lift To
Shift!"
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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 18:07:05
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From: Wayne <
whietala@prodigy.net>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: ASC (cruse control)
At 08:46 AM 07/14/2000 , Dr. John A. Tabler
wrote:
>2) Can anyone point out from experience the most likely cause
of failure
>in the ASC?
>
>Thanks
>JAT
The
first place I would look would be the vacuum pump (as you obviously
are).
The vacuum nipple has a tendency to break off. It is located directly
under
all the cables, attached to the pump (unless it broke off, in which
case it
would be hanging with the hose in the general
vicinity)
Wayne
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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 20:59:10
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From: Casey Spivey <
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Subject: Team3S: 1991
& 1992 carpet difference? Help
I was wanting to put aftermarket
pre-molded carpet in my '91 3000GT.
The companies that sell them say that
their pre-molded ones are for
'92 through '96 and won't fit in a '91. Sunrise
Mitsu says they are
the same. What's the deal? Thanks in
advance.
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Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 21:02:59
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From:
jeff.mohler@netapp.comSubject: RE:
Team3S: 1991 & 1992 carpet difference? Help
What color do you
need?
Remember everyone..
1995 Tan VR4 interior..
You
name it..I got it.
Fair market value offers
considered.
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:I was wanting
to put aftermarket pre-molded carpet in my '91 3000GT.
:The companies that
sell them say that their pre-molded ones are for
:'92 through '96 and won't
fit in a '91. Sunrise Mitsu says they are
:the same. What's the deal? Thanks
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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 09:43:41
EDT
From:
DSMDealer1@aol.comSubject: Re: Team3S:
A lot of posts, (Some Words about the CD Manuals)
It was funny that I saw
this post today. After last night, I felt the need
to comment on
Vineet Singh's CD Manuals. When I first got them, I played
with them a
bit, then they just kinda sat there. Time had dictated that I
wouldn't
be playing with new toys for a while (Trying to turn a bare chassis
into a
11 (or possibly 10..) second street car in a matter of a week and 1/2
doesn't leave much time left for fun). However, last night as I was
putting
together the long shortblock, I suddenly found myself needing torque
specs
that I couldn't remember for the life of me. With my collection
of manuals
about 2 hours away from me, and it being 3 am, I thought that I
was pretty
much beaten, then Vineet's CD Manuals popped into my mind.
I ran inside,
turned on the computer, and luckily I had loaded them onto the
harddrive as I
left the disks at work. Voila...all the information
that I needed, and found
a few interesting things on the CD while browsing
quickly. What a life
saver!!! Vineet, track me down at the SO if
you go and I'll by ya a beer. I
thank you again for the manuals, and
suggest that anyone who does their own
work should consider purchasing these
manuals and loading it onto your hard
drive of your laptop and/or desktop
computer. You never know when you'll be
caught in the same predicament
I was! Thanks again Vineet!
Josh
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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 10:53:05
PDT
From: "Ryan Meador" <
captainrye@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Removal of Pre-Cats
Is it possible to remove the pre-cats on our
cars. If not, can they be
gutted? Also- Is it possible to run 2 different
size
turbos?
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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 11:27:31
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From:
jeff.mohler@netapp.comSubject: RE:
Team3S: Removal of Pre-Cats
the pre-cats are a BHAB (Big Hairy Ass
female-dog) to remove IMHO.
Can be done..but stinks to do it.
Two
different turbos..Ive thought about it a lot. What would happen is
the
first turbo to come up would spend all its energy backfilling the turbo
system
thats UP up yet, and on the high end the other way around.
You
would get better response from two identical turbos
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Team3S: Removal of Pre-Cats
Is it possible to remove the pre-cats on
our cars. If not, can they be
gutted? Also- Is it possible to run 2
different size
turbos?
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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 20:50:08
+0200
From: "Roger Gerl (RTEC)" <
roger.gerl@bluewin.ch>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Dangerous Dyno Session !!
Joe made a very good point and yes,
the combustion chamber has been balanced
on my car as well as they special
shop ported the heads.
I'm almost sure an air pocket got expansed and
caused the damage. I will see
the stuff on monday and hope to be able to take
some pics before they put
everything back together.
At the time I had
the piston damage on my car I was in between a shop
problem and got screwed
as they did not deliver the parts as well as the
piston offering was way too
much money for me at this time. So I made the
error and did not got Ross or
the much cheaper Magniolia pistons. If I have
to open the engine again
sometime I for sure will change them !!
In the case of the damage, all
injectors looked good as well as the intake
did. It is always possible that
something fell into a cylinder during the
injector and plugs job. I always
put some rags in and clean the stuff before
I open it, but it's always
possible. But then, the two first dynos wouldn't
have been
successful.
Yes, there was still enough air although we tried to give the
intercoolers
more with two large hoses. I doubt that this was a problem
because we did
this to other cars too often. Overheating has never ever been
a problem with
our cars on the dyno. The psiton broke at the top between
chamber and the
first ring. This part then crashed the plug and I wonder
where the parts are
now. they could caused some damage to the head, the
valves, the turbine
wheel and finally clogged up the rear pre-cat. We'll see
on Monday =:-(
I just hope we can again learn of that story although we
really don't know
the cause for the problem. Two weeks ago, Mitsu had another
3000GT from
Germany that drove at 1.5bnars of boost (anyone ever asked what a
2nd gen
with 13g can do boostwise ?) and the pistons had holes in them
afterwards...
anyone thinks that this was detonation and lean conditions ?
The
modification was a JET ECU with a custom program that increased the
fuel,
removed fuel cut, decreased timing a little and for boost a bleeder
valve
has been installed. No ther fuel mods have been done and of course
the
engine blew up pretty quick after the bleeder fell off and the owner
was
amazed of the incredibble performance.
> Personally Roger, I
don't think you should be held responsible for fixing
the car
> unless
something you did is at fault.
Thanks for all your support guys ! But
what would you say if you get the car
back and he says sorry the engine broke
due to an internal problem ? Ands
you drove the car for 2 years without a
problem and gave the car to a guy
that nowe says somethign broke. Well I'd be
abe to pay only a little but
customers are protected here by law and
personally, I couldn't be able to
look in a customers eyes anymore when I'd
give him a damaged car back. No,
I'm too much a human in this case
:-/
I keep you updated and will post pictures on my site
soon.
Roger
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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 19:28:48
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From: Nick Xiong <
nxiong@juno.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Removal of Pre-Cats
do it when you feel like... SUPERMAN!!! I just
did it today. Fronts are
EASY to due the fact that you can remove it
& hack away w/ a 1" wood
boring bit. Rears are a diff animal
because it's not easily removed &
you will breath & be blinded by
metallic dust/hot metal flying down... I
was able to fully gut the fronts I
GAVE UP on the rears after I got a
blinded one too many times & breathed
enuff dust & got a BIG enuff
headache... safety goggles DIDN'T
HELP. did get a 1.5" hole thru the
rears though... perhaps on another
day when I feel like superman, again.
but I can now hear the spool up
& down fr the turbos now ;-) and the car
is freaking LOUD. I
installed the ATR DP at the same time. combined
w/the infamous Borla
makes a killer sound.
On Sat, 15 Jul 2000 10:53:05 PDT "Ryan Meador"
<
captainrye@hotmail.com>
writes:
>
Is it possible to remove the pre-cats on our cars. If not, can they
> be
> gutted? Also- Is it possible to run 2 different size
turbos?
>
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Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 18:42:57
-0700
From: Errin Humphrey <
errin@u.washington.edu>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: (OT) Racing Videos
George Kuo wrote:
> LAncer,
Subaru, etc?? When Mitsubishi designed the
> GTO, im pretty sure they
didnt have racing in mind..
> and having said that.. it's more difficult
for us to
> turn this nice car into a race car..
Hmmm. Tell
that to the guys on this list who are
doing it as we speak.
:)
> In any type of racing series.. OK.. maybe not much in
> the
US.. but in Asia.. I never see anyone race a 3S..
> can you tell me why??
I see tons of Supras, Zs, RX7s,
> Lancers, Silvias, NSXs, etc... but never
a GTO..
Hmmm, I think I already went over most of the
reasons in my
last email. To summarize, the GTO
was never very popular in Japan
because it was
much too big (i.e. wide) to be practical on
Tokyo
streets. Ask anyone who lives in Tokyo. The
Supra and
NSX also didn't sell well due to this
same issue, but Toyota and Honda put a
lot of
money into these cars in series like FIA Nippon GT,
etc.
Also, the GTO had no racing heritage or
Japanese history, and its exterior
design was more
European in flavor.
> Hmm.. Ok.. u have a jpn GF
now so u know how
> everyone is Japan thinks...
Well, my links
to the Japanese car scene are a
bit more extensive than that. :)
She's been helping
me translate Japanese car videos and magazines,
but I
also have other Japanese friends. BTW, her
car in Japan is Skyline and
she regularly took it to
the street races and circuits, so it's not like
she
doesn't know what she's talking about. :)
> im trying to
say is that it's more
> of a high-performance luxury car... like the
SC400..
> or Linclon MK8.. not a car that you would want to turn
>
into a RACE car..
I disagree, and I think most others on this list would
also.
> I know I'll get a lot of flames when started this.
>
Again.. I'm not saying the 3S TT sux or not a great
> car or anything like
that... just this car is not meant
> to be a HARDCORE RACE car!
Simply put.. if it
> was.. we would see it on the tracks...
So I
guess if you want to drive a car that has gone
WAY faster than ours in the
1/4 mile and has a bigger
presence in US racing series like Speedvision GT,
then
maybe you should trade in for a Ford Mustang. I guess
it must a
HARDCORE RACE car and "superior" to
ours, right??? :) Have you
driven a Ford lately? :)
> OK.. this is my last post on this
issue.. i think i
> should keep my mouth shout.. we have a great
car
> here.. just too bad it doesnt have any racing heritage..
Yup,
it's too bad. My last post on the issue too. :)
Have a nice
day,
- --Errin Humphrey
94 VR4 - 15G ("just" a street
car!)
Seattle
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