team3s             Wednesday, July 5 2000             Volume 01 : Number 187




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Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 09:18:25 CDT
From: "Mark Wendlandt" <stealth_tt@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Installing/Removing tranny techniques

Chris....Others,

Yes, putting the tranny back in is the difficult part.  I have done
6(yes..6..1-6spd and 5-5spds) by myself with only a floor jack to help me. 
I can actually get one out in about 2.5 hrs if I hurry(if the exhaust nuts
are not rusted and engine is cool.)

I'm calling the front of the tranny the bell housing and the rear of the
tranny...the other end.

To get it to clear the frame when removing you will slide it away(while on
floor jack) from the engine about 1-2".  Then, you will start lowering the
jack so that the back of the tranny starts to fall.  Keep the bell housing
high.  The idea is to clear the frame by lowering the back of the
tranny(probably a 30deg angle) and once clear you can move it completely
away from the engine and continue to lower the jack.

If you have the car high enough, you can get the tranny out while still on
the jack.(I use 3-ton jack stands.  I place 4x4s on top of the jack and use
the area just behind the front wheel wells(rocker panels?) to mount my
jacks.  The 4x4s add height as well as spread the weight of the car so you
don't damage with the jacks.

Putting the tranny back in is of course more of a pain.  But, I do not have
a problem clearing the frame and getting it in to position, if you follow my
method above in reverse(Bell housing high..~30deg angle and then follow with
the rear of the tranny once it clears the frame).  My problem is lining up
the tranny input shaft with the clutch disk(splines).  A couple of times I
have done this it has slid right in and the others take a little/lot
longer(jack up/down a little at time until you get it lined up.)

I can do one in about 8-10 hrs by myself. Most of the time putting
everything back together of course!


Notes:

1)You did the engine so I'm assuming that you have good
organization/mechanical skills...but for everyone else....get a Service
Manual, plastic containers/bags,etc...a lot of shelf space and a clean work
area.  Air tools are a must!!!! I can't imagine doing it without them.

2) Be very careful when using jack stands.  I actually have stumps that I
put under the car just in case the jack stands were to fail.  I jack up the
hole car about 24 inches.  I also wire a 10 inch piece of 2x4 to the floor
jack pad to protect the tranny and provide a larger area for the tranny to
sit on.

3)You do not have to pop the ball joints to remove the cv axels.  Just
remove the control arm from the frame and the stabilizer links.  This will
allow you to swing the hole assembly(strut/hub/brakes,etc) out of the way
enough to pull the axel out of the hub.

4) Turn the flywheel unless you are confident that it does not need to be
turned(it is stepped/cupped so two surfaces need to be turned to stock specs
unless the clutch mfgr says otherwise.)  I aligned the clutch disk by eye.
Tool is not necessary.  Just make sure that it is visually centered(there is
a hole in the flywheel that I center it to)

5)You want to make sure that you do not pinch the wiring harness that is
above the bell housing between the engine and tranny.  I wire it out of the
way.

If you have any questions let me know.

Mark Wendlandt
'91RT/TT


>Ok, I need to replace my clutch before I raise my boost.  I replaced my
>engine myself but I had lots of trouble removing and installing the tranny.
>It took me and two other guys 4 hours of extreme hardship to get the tranny
>back in position to bolt it back onto the engine.  I know there must be a
>simplier method of doing this procedure.
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Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 10:28:33 -0400
From: smii <smii@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: best prices for high rise hoods for our cars.

George,

I appreciate very much your raising these legitimate concerns.  I am
going to be in touch with ROBOCAR to address these issues specifically.
If they are not able to supply us with the quality that is expected and
deserved for our cars, we simply won't order from them.

However, if I can get ligitamate proof and a good example of what it is
we are looking at, we all may be able to benefit greatly from this deal.

I will let you all know as soon as I hear back from ROBOCAR.

Thanks again, George for expressing your concerns.

Much appreciated.

Thanks,

Boris


George Kuo wrote:

> I would NOT recommend any custom work done at ROBOCAR.
>  From previous personal experience and of my friends',
> their quailty and service SUX!
>
> I'm not an expert, but the quality of fiberglass and
> carbon fiber plays a big part of the quality of the
> hood itself.  I know there are cheap Honda
> fiberglass/CF hoods that are thin and weak.. i wouldnt
> put those kind of poor quality hoods on my TT..
>
> Robocar does have some great deals on parts.. but
> please think twice before u let their mechanics touch
> your car.. or put money down on some custom work that
> u have not seen before/yet..
>
> Anyways.. didnt mean to spoil ur lil group buy.. just
> dont wana see fellow members here get burnt~
>
> /George
>
> --- smii <smii@mediaone.net> wrote:
> > Hello everybody,
> >                  I just wanted to let everybody know
> > that I got in
> > contact with ROBOCAR, and they
> > said that if I could get a group order of a minimum
> > of 20 hoods, they
> > would be able to give a good
> > deal. the prices are as follows
> >
> > fiberglass = $380.00
> >
> >
> > carbonfiber = $600.00
> >
> > Remeber that this would allow us to fit a strut
> > tower bar under our
> > hoods, as well as provide
> > cooler air in the engine compartment. I would like
> > to know what kind of
> > design ideas we are
> > looking at, so please feel free to e-mail me
> > privately with your
> > suggestions, as we all have to agree
> > on the design that is going to be manufactured.
> >
> > All interested in getting in on this deal please
> > e-mail me at
> > smii@mediaone.net
> >
> > Thanks again.
> > Boris.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 07:56:24 PDT
From: "Ryan Meador" <captainrye@hotmail.com>
Subject: Team3S: Engine timing retarding...

Gentlemen,
I just purchased a '93 vr4 and have some not so quick questions.
1) I read my current engine codes to be 12, 13, and 25. What do those
   mean?
2) I reset the codes and ran the car- then checked them again. They
   have not come back (yet) BUT I am having a serious problem with the
   power of the car. I'm pegging the boost guage past 14 and don't
   think that stock boost should be 14 lbs. (Then again- I don't know
   the history of the used car) What should stock boost be? (no mods
   except K&N)
3) When passing 9 lbs. it feels like the engine timing is retarding
   and I lose major power. Heck, my old '87 Supra Turbo feels faster
   right now. It is almost a "stumbling" feeling- and the boost
   pulling stops (although the boost meter is still pumping hard.)
   Any ideas?
4) It seems like the accuator on the turbos can be manually adjusted
   by screwing in the connector on the end of the rod--- can I tone
   down the boost that way until obtaining a free flow exhaust? And-
   do both turbos have to be at exactly the same setting? Any help
   would be GREATLY appreciated- even bad news. I can't hardly
   stand having a car that should have 320 ponies but won't go fast at
   all if I press the gas past 1/2 way to the floor. Thanks- looking
   forward to being on the list.
- -Ryan *1993 Green VR-4 with NO vehicle history...
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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:11:37 -0500
From: "cody" <overclck@flash.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Engine timing retarding...

First off - some common knowledge about the turbo boost gauge.  On a '93
VR-4 you will never get more than 9 or 10 lbs. of boost at the factory
setting.  The boost gauge lies to you - it is not a true boost gauge, rather
an estimation that varies with engine RPM, MAF signal, etc.etc.

Secondly - your '93 VR-4 has ~only~ 300 hp stock.

Third - your timing retard problem actually sounds more like its time to
replace the spark plugs and wires.  Go wth some OEM spark plug wires, and
some NGK sparkplugs gapped around .032-.036 depending on what kind of mods
you intend in the near future.


- -Cody

#Gentlemen,
#I just purchased a '93 vr4 and have some not so quick questions.
#1) I read my current engine codes to be 12, 13, and 25. What do those
#   mean?
#2) I reset the codes and ran the car- then checked them again. They
#   have not come back (yet) BUT I am having a serious problem with the
#   power of the car. I'm pegging the boost guage past 14 and don't
#   think that stock boost should be 14 lbs. (Then again- I don't know
#   the history of the used car) What should stock boost be? (no mods
#   except K&N)
#3) When passing 9 lbs. it feels like the engine timing is retarding
#   and I lose major power. Heck, my old '87 Supra Turbo feels faster
#   right now. It is almost a "stumbling" feeling- and the boost
#   pulling stops (although the boost meter is still pumping hard.)
#   Any ideas?
#4) It seems like the accuator on the turbos can be manually adjusted
#   by screwing in the connector on the end of the rod--- can I tone
#   down the boost that way until obtaining a free flow exhaust? And-
#   do both turbos have to be at exactly the same setting? Any help
#   would be GREATLY appreciated- even bad news. I can't hardly
#   stand having a car that should have 320 ponies but won't go fast at
#   all if I press the gas past 1/2 way to the floor. Thanks- looking
#   forward to being on the list.
#


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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 08:53:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matt Wise <diranged@south-park.cc>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Engine timing retarding...

This sounds too wierd... I bought a 93 Green VR-4 used recently too :) And
i had a few of these same problems. Mine has been having SERIOUS power
issues but I think ive finally found the cause. On mine, when you puill on
the throttle cable, you can hear an air leak at the Y pipe. .And have had
that pipe blow off a few times. Also, my stock boost guage also pegged
14psi even though my aftermarket guage never gets above 7psi (also related
to the Y pipe i believe). If I were you, I wouldnt mod your car for a
while (6 mo-> a year) and make sure its running OK. Im at 9 months and i
only have an exhaust because I want to take it slow.. we'll se how it runs
in 3 months or so.. if its still strong, then i'll start modding it.

On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Ryan Meador wrote:

> Gentlemen,
> I just purchased a '93 vr4 and have some not so quick questions.
> 1) I read my current engine codes to be 12, 13, and 25. What do those
>    mean?
> 2) I reset the codes and ran the car- then checked them again. They
>    have not come back (yet) BUT I am having a serious problem with the
>    power of the car. I'm pegging the boost guage past 14 and don't
>    think that stock boost should be 14 lbs. (Then again- I don't know
>    the history of the used car) What should stock boost be? (no mods
>    except K&N)
> 3) When passing 9 lbs. it feels like the engine timing is retarding
>    and I lose major power. Heck, my old '87 Supra Turbo feels faster
>    right now. It is almost a "stumbling" feeling- and the boost
>    pulling stops (although the boost meter is still pumping hard.)
>    Any ideas?
> 4) It seems like the accuator on the turbos can be manually adjusted
>    by screwing in the connector on the end of the rod--- can I tone
>    down the boost that way until obtaining a free flow exhaust? And-
>    do both turbos have to be at exactly the same setting? Any help
>    would be GREATLY appreciated- even bad news. I can't hardly
>    stand having a car that should have 320 ponies but won't go fast at
>    all if I press the gas past 1/2 way to the floor. Thanks- looking
>    forward to being on the list.
> -Ryan *1993 Green VR-4 with NO vehicle history...
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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 08:45:47 -0700
From: "Gross, Erik" <erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Engine timing retarding...

> I just purchased a '93 vr4 and have some not so quick questions.
> 1) I read my current engine codes to be 12, 13, and 25. What do those
>    mean?

All airflow related stuff - maybe someone forgot to reconnect the MAS at
some point and then reconnected it when it didn't idle right?

12 - Volume Air Flow Sensor
13 - Intake Air Temperature Sensor
25 - Barometric Pressure Sensor

These codes are all retained in memory until the ECM is reset or the battery
disconnected (this resets the ECM in 10 seconds).  The manual says to check
the harness and connectors for all 3 sensors and indicates that the first
two can be replaced if you get the error codes after rechecking the
harnesses.


HTH,
- --Erik


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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 11:52:06 -0400
From: "Michael Booker" <mrbook@gate.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Installing/Removing tranny techniques

Look at Bob Fontana's webpage, it has pictures of removal/installation of
the engine/transmission assembly.

http://www.gate.net/~mitsvr4/

Matt



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Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 09:16:15 PDT
From: "Ryan Meador" <captainrye@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Engine timing retarding...

That's exactly what I needed. Here's a new symptom for you experts- The car
does not have the problem when first started and COLD but worsens as it
heats up. I'm crossing my fingers for a sensor error... (PLEASE continue to
send feedback of other possible problems!) Thanks again guys. -Ryan



 > I just purchased a '93 vr4 and have some not so quick questions.
 > 1) I read my current engine codes to be 12, 13, and 25. What do those
 >    mean?

All airflow related stuff - maybe someone forgot to reconnect the MAS at
some point and then reconnected it when it didn't idle right?

12 - Volume Air Flow Sensor
13 - Intake Air Temperature Sensor
25 - Barometric Pressure Sensor


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Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 10:06:49 -0700
From: Ken Middaugh <Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: S-AVC-R reading O2 sensors voltage !?

I think this wire is necessary for learn mode.  I believe one of the
requirements that must be met for the Apexi to go into learn mode is that the
TPS signal be above 85% (whatever voltage that equates to) see
http://www.huntleyracing.com/engineproductswhole.htm.  I think this info used to
be on the Apexi USA web site but I couldn't find it recently.


> Guys, I was installing an S-AVC-R (Apexi boost controller, new type) in a
> customers car tdy and during attaching the TPS wire I thought about why the
> thing needs it. Well, of course I haven't found anything in the manual and
> during the setup I checked the sensor levels. Here I noticed that the
> voltage shows down to millivolts what means a voltage between 0.00 and 1.02
> volts can be displayed.
>
> In my point of view, I just can't see why the thing needs the TPS wire ...
> maybe because the japanese engineers like to know how lead the foot is ...
> dunno. But I really like the idea to connect the input to one of the O2
> sensors. We need to see a voltage of 0.88 to 0.96V at WOT and the display
> with it's recording capabilities as well the replay function would be
> perfect for analyzing the stuff without a datalogger.
>
> I'm sure I'm not the first one who thinks about this ! Therefore, I wonder
> if anyone already did this and what the experiences are. Hey, no light show
> with 10 colored LED's, no hard to read gauges, no guessing anymore (0.1 V
> between the LEDS is just not perfect !!)
>
> Another note while at the S-AVC-R topic : Is it true the peak values are
> lost when power is gone on the thing ? If so, why did the engineers only
> think to the tip of the nose ? The A/B/etc seetings are also stored so
> what's the problem ?
>
> Happy boosting
> Roger (virusless !!)
> 93'3000GT TT
> www.rtec.ch
>
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Ken Middaugh (858) 455-4510
General Atomics
San Diego

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Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 10:45:33 -0700
From: Ken Middaugh <Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Engine timing retarding...

Welcome Ryan,

If you are overboosting, you will get this stumbling symptom if your spark plugs
are gapped to stock (0.044 ??) spec.  Most folks gap their plugs from
0.032-0.035 when running higher than stock boost.

Many times, folks will sell their cars because of this simple problem.
Overboosting can occur as hoses develop leaks, become loose, or just become
disconnected.  When I bought my car, the plastic hose barb on the Boost Control
Solenoid Valve was broken and I experienced the symptom you described. 

The easiest and cheapest place to begin your diagnosis is with the vacuum lines
and hoses.  You need to check the condition of the vacuum lines from hose barb
on the back of the Y-Pipe (near the throttle body), to the boost control
solenoid on the firewall, to the 4-way "H" connector, to the wastegate
actuators.  You (or a mechanic) can check for leaks using a small hand pump to
pump the hoses to +8 psi to determine if there are any leaks.  You can check
that the actuators actually move too.  Also check the Y-Pipe hose to the
throttle body, and finally check all hoses from the turbos to the intercoolers
to the Y-pipe, clamps frequently become loose.  If these are all OK, we'll give
you more ideas to help find your problem.

Good luck,
Ken

> Gentlemen,
> I just purchased a '93 vr4 and have some not so quick questions.
> 1) I read my current engine codes to be 12, 13, and 25. What do those
>    mean?
> 2) I reset the codes and ran the car- then checked them again. They
>    have not come back (yet) BUT I am having a serious problem with the
>    power of the car. I'm pegging the boost guage past 14 and don't
>    think that stock boost should be 14 lbs. (Then again- I don't know
>    the history of the used car) What should stock boost be? (no mods
>    except K&N)
> 3) When passing 9 lbs. it feels like the engine timing is retarding
>    and I lose major power. Heck, my old '87 Supra Turbo feels faster
>    right now. It is almost a "stumbling" feeling- and the boost
>    pulling stops (although the boost meter is still pumping hard.)
>    Any ideas?
> 4) It seems like the accuator on the turbos can be manually adjusted
>    by screwing in the connector on the end of the rod--- can I tone
>    down the boost that way until obtaining a free flow exhaust? And-
>    do both turbos have to be at exactly the same setting? Any help
>    would be GREATLY appreciated- even bad news. I can't hardly
>    stand having a car that should have 320 ponies but won't go fast at
>    all if I press the gas past 1/2 way to the floor. Thanks- looking
>    forward to being on the list.


- --
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Ken Middaugh (858) 455-4510
General Atomics
San Diego

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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 17:15:39 -0400
From: "WALTER D. BEST" <WDBO39@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Noise Update (was Re: tire rubbing on shock)

It's the wheel bearing, I did the same thing last winter, hit ice and very
slowly slid over and hit the curb, ended up bending the edge of the rim.
Anyway,  it put a real small dimple in the bearing housing and it did the
exact same thing, clicking sound.  It was just enough to drive you crazy,
and yes once you took off the weight you couldn't find it.

99% sure anyway, and it's fairly easy thing to fix.

 Oh, mark about three places on the cam bolt and mounting plate, the cam
bolt is used for the alignment, hopefully you won't have to get it realigned
once you remove the strut bolts to fix your problem.

Good luck,

Dave Best
 3Si #62
http://ifrag.ncsa.uiuc.edu/best/
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To: <matthews@bnro.de>
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Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 11:40 AM
Subject: Team3S: Noise Update (was Re: tire rubbing on shock)


> Hello Jim,
> My brother has the same identical problem on his 94 TT.  When making left
> turns.  It is mostly evident on the highway, not during lane changes, but
> even easy highway turns.  It started after my brother had a small fender
> bender ( more accurately tirebender because the rest of the car was fine)
> last winter that required a new front right wheel, a tie rod, and I dont
> remember what other parts.  The mechanic did a 4 wheel alignment and the
> noise just kind of crept up un him.  I was the first to notice, as I drive
> with the radio lower than he does and I pay more attention to the car.  I
> will take the car back to the mechanic as soon as I finish his 60K tuneup
> to see what he thinks and will keep you posted on what I resolve.
>
> Mike,
> 94 Pearl Yellow TT
> Detroit Metro Area, Michigan
>
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 23:48:02 +0200
From: Mike Chapleski <mike.chapleski@attglobal.net>
Subject: Team3S: Fuel line replacement

    Has anyone replaced their fuel lines from the fuel filter, through
the fuel rails and then back to the return line with steel braided lines
and AN-type connectors?  I just installed a fuel pressure gauge in my
dash and am trying to figure out where I am going to insert the pressure
sensor in the system.  I just bought two new fuel rails and figured I
would tap them and install steel braided lines.  This looks straight
forward except for the stock fuel pressure regulator.  I cannot figure
out how to keep this in the system.  So my next question is what does
this do anyway?  I am still running stock turbos and fuel.  Just want to
take care of this now.

Mike Chapleski
0018
'95 Stealth RT TT


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Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 23:48:11 +0200
From: Mike Chapleski <mike.chapleski@attglobal.net>
Subject: Team3S: Clutch Master Cylinder Replacement

    I am getting ready to replace my clutch master cylinder and was
looking in the service manual.  It says I need to remove the brake
booster to get the clutch cylinder out.  After looking under the hood I
think they are correct.  So has anyone done this?  Will it be possible
for me to unbolt the brake booster and move it out of the way without
removing the hydraulic lines.  I just bleed my brakes with Super Blue
and do not want to go through another quart+ of that stuff.

Mike Chapleski
0018
'95 Stealth RT TT




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Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 00:53:52 +0200
From: lehir@genesiscom.ch (Genesiscon Lehir)
Subject: RE: Team3S: Tire Help!!!

>>So you're missing the BEST part of the car....This is WHERE the 3-S is
>>clearly superior
- ---

>>Are you kidding?

No, I'm not

>>Talk about having a SUV mentality here...

Beaurkkkkkkkkkk
Even if we have a 4WD Voyager...I do NOT like to drive trucks !!

>>Stopping a 4000+lb -car- in snow and ice is not a pleasurable experience
when
>>you have to do it in a hurry..

Get rid of the ABS
Get good snow tires....and you're all set

And....why slow down....when you've got the possibility to accelerate and
dynamically avoid the obstacle ;-)

>>I dont care what you say *grin*.

I say nothing ;-)

>>Rain/snow/ice only serve to greatly magnify our car's one great
problem..weight.

Naah....We're losing serious HP through the AWD...actually, limited traction
conditions are where the 3S
is at its peak potential....

Henri


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Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 16:02:08 -0700
From: Ken Middaugh <Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: S-AVC-R reading O2 sensors voltage !?

This is a good idea Trent, which is why I'm responding to the list.

You could periodically disable learn mode for all gears and switch over to
monitor O2 or another voltage of choice (this is essentially what I do with the
RPM/IDC wire, I leave on RPM normally, occasionally I switch to IDC).  Normally,
you  want learning enabled and the TPS wired in correctly.  This is because the
AVC will continually go into learn mode (when "requirements" are met) in order
to "maintain" boost curve.  This is how it accomodates atmospheric changes,
elevation changes, etc. 

Trent Owens wrote:
>
> Ken,
>
> Is it necessary once the AVC has already "learned" the boost curve?  If it doesnt,
> then a simple switch would work.....
>
> Trent
>
> Ken Middaugh wrote:
>
> > I think this wire is necessary for learn mode.  I believe one of the
> > requirements that must be met for the Apexi to go into learn mode is that the
> > TPS signal be above 85% (whatever voltage that equates to) see
> > http://www.huntleyracing.com/engineproductswhole.htm.  I think this info used to
> > be on the Apexi USA web site but I couldn't find it recently.
> >
> > > Guys, I was installing an S-AVC-R (Apexi boost controller, new type) in a
> > > customers car tdy and during attaching the TPS wire I thought about why the
> > > thing needs it. Well, of course I haven't found anything in the manual and
> > > during the setup I checked the sensor levels. Here I noticed that the
> > > voltage shows down to millivolts what means a voltage between 0.00 and 1.02
> > > volts can be displayed.
> > >
> > > In my point of view, I just can't see why the thing needs the TPS wire ...
> > > maybe because the japanese engineers like to know how lead the foot is ...
> > > dunno. But I really like the idea to connect the input to one of the O2
> > > sensors. We need to see a voltage of 0.88 to 0.96V at WOT and the display
> > > with it's recording capabilities as well the replay function would be
> > > perfect for analyzing the stuff without a datalogger.
> > >
> > > I'm sure I'm not the first one who thinks about this ! Therefore, I wonder
> > > if anyone already did this and what the experiences are. Hey, no light show
> > > with 10 colored LED's, no hard to read gauges, no guessing anymore (0.1 V
> > > between the LEDS is just not perfect !!)
> > >
> > > Another note while at the S-AVC-R topic : Is it true the peak values are
> > > lost when power is gone on the thing ? If so, why did the engineers only
> > > think to the tip of the nose ? The A/B/etc seetings are also stored so
> > > what's the problem ?
> > >
> > > Happy boosting
> > > Roger (virusless !!)
> > > 93'3000GT TT
> > > www.rtec.ch
> > >
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> >
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> > San Diego
> >
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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 16:45:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Lucius <stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Fuel line replacement

Mike,

I installed my Autometer fuel pressure sensor in the fuel line after the
filter. Some pics and other info can be found at the url below.

http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius/2-fp_install.htm

You cannot eliminate the stock FPR without replacing it with another. The
FPR increases fuel pressure (by restricting return flow) to match the
increased manifold pressure under boost. In turbo models, the fuel
pressure solenoid also reduces FP at idle using the FPR. If you convert
the ends of your new fuel rails to AN fittings, then there is a multitude
of aftermarket options available, but you will also have to adapt the high
pressure supply line and the return line. You can increase FP beyond the
factory specs (to increase injector flow) by installing another FPR after
the factory in the fuel return line. However, unless you plan on flowing a
LOT more fuel (like 720s maxed out, which is more fuel than 15Gs can
supply air for) then the stock lines, rails, and FPR are adequate. Please,
let us know what you do to the rails as this may be a mod I might
consider.

Jeff Lucius
Red 1992 Stealth TT - modified
 --> http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius/
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 --> http://www.manualcd.com/

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From: "Mike Chapleski" <mike.chapleski@attglobal.net>
To: "Team 3S" <team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 3:48 PM
Subject: Team3S: Fuel line replacement


>     Has anyone replaced their fuel lines from the fuel filter, through
> the fuel rails and then back to the return line with steel braided lines
> and AN-type connectors?  I just installed a fuel pressure gauge in my
> dash and am trying to figure out where I am going to insert the pressure
> sensor in the system.  I just bought two new fuel rails and figured I
> would tap them and install steel braided lines.  This looks straight
> forward except for the stock fuel pressure regulator.  I cannot figure
> out how to keep this in the system.  So my next question is what does
> this do anyway?  I am still running stock turbos and fuel.  Just want to
> take care of this now.
>
> Mike Chapleski
> 0018
> '95 Stealth RT TT


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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 17:08:21 -0700
From: jeff.mohler@netapp.com
Subject: RE: Team3S: Tire Help!!!

Get rid of the ABS
Get good snow tires....and you're all set

And....why slow down....when you've got the possibility to accelerate and
dynamically avoid the obstacle ;-)

>>I dont care what you say *grin*.

I say nothing ;-)

>>Rain/snow/ice only serve to greatly magnify our car's one great
problem..weight.

Naah....We're losing serious HP through the AWD...actually, limited traction
conditions are where the 3S
is at its peak potential....
- ---

Wellllll...ok.

To each thier own.

I dont recall any literature praising an AWD/TT sports car..as a tool for winter
travel tho.

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Date: 5 Jul 2000 17:22:09 -0700
From: John Monnin <jkmonnin@altavista.com>
Subject: Team3S: 1st Gen stock turbo boost increase

It hase been mentioned on this list that the 91-92?,93?  twin turbos are restricted to 9Lbs of Boost but the 93?, 94? and up models have 12 Lbs of boost available. 
Is there a way to increase the boost on a 91 to 12 Psi using stock parts is this too expensive.  I am lukewarm on the idea of adding a bleeder valve and I am not financially ready to buy a god boost controller.

John Monnin
91 VR-4  (hope to be back together soon)
jkmonnin@altavista.com


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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 17:22:29 -0700
From: jeff.mohler@netapp.com
Subject: RE: Team3S: 1st Gen stock turbo boost increase

AFAIK, thats the only change, a modification in how the stock boost control
system works.

- -----Original Message-----
From: John Monnin [mailto:jkmonnin@altavista.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 5:22 PM
To: team3s-digest@mail.stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: Team3S: 1st Gen stock turbo boost increase


It hase been mentioned on this list that the 91-92?,93?  twin turbos are
restricted to 9Lbs of Boost but the 93?, 94? and up models have 12 Lbs of boost
available. 
Is there a way to increase the boost on a 91 to 12 Psi using stock parts is this
too expensive.  I am lukewarm on the idea of adding a bleeder valve and I am not
financially ready to buy a god boost controller.

John Monnin
91 VR-4  (hope to be back together soon)
jkmonnin@altavista.com


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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 19:33:02 -0500
From: Matt Jannusch <MAJ@BigCharts.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: 1st Gen stock turbo boost increase

> It hase been mentioned on this list that the 91-92?,93?  twin turbos are
> restricted to 9Lbs of Boost but the 93?, 94? and up models have 12 Lbs of
> boost available. 

> Is there a way to increase the boost on a 91 to 12 Psi using stock parts
> is this too expensive.  I am lukewarm on the idea of adding a bleeder
> valve and I am not financially ready to buy a god boost controller.

Actually, there's a free way to do it.  Inside the nipple on the boost
control solenoid is a small plastic insert that you can pull out with a
small drill bit or something similar and that'll get you to the
second-generation boost levels.  Doing it this way will preserve complete
stock-looking appearance and reliability as the ECU still has full control
of the boost level if severe knock is detected.

Behind the Y-pipe and throttle body is a rats-nest of hoses.  There is a
white/yellow plastic "H" connector.  One of the hoses attached to there goes
up to one of the solenoids on the firewall.  That solenoid is the boost
control solenoid.  I don't recall which one of the nipples the insert is in
(I believe it is the bottom one).  Look to see which one has a smaller hole
and that should be the one.  Look closer and you'll see the seam between the
insert and the wall of the solenoid.  Get a drill bit that is just a little
bit smaller than the opening and chuck it in a drill.  With the drill
spinning, insert it into the hole and slightly angle the bit so that it
grabs the insert and starts spinning the insert.  Pull out the bit with the
insert attached.  Put the hose back on, and you are done.

Did it on my roommate's '91 VR4, no problems and a little more boost and
slightly better spoolup of the turbos.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 19:37:39 -0500
From: Matt Jannusch <MAJ@BigCharts.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Tire Help!!!

> Wellllll...ok.
> To each thier own.
> I dont recall any literature praising an AWD/TT sports car..as a tool
> for winter travel tho.

I don't drive my Spyder in the winter as it is too nice a car to let the
salt rust away, but I did drive my previous '94 VR4 in winter.  If you get
good snow tires, it is an excellent winter vehicle and I felt much safer
driving it than any "normal" car.  I have to disagree with disconnecting the
ABS though, since if you have great tires they should grip plenty to get the
car stopped without a problem.  I don't care what "experts" say about ABS
and winter driving - when people get in a sticky situation they slam the
brakes HARD and hold them on and don't even steer which is the worst thing
possible to do.  Even experienced drivers do it on occasion even though they
know better.  I'll take the backup safety of ABS any day.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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