team3s
Thursday, June 22
2000
Volume 01 : Number
173
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Date:
Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:56:28 -0500
From: "John C. Davidson" <jd@edge-software.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: What Wheels?
> Thos Challenges do look like a nice wheel (nice
and open). Any idea
> what they weight? I hate it when
manufactures' don't list weights!
I threw one of them on a bathroom scale
after they came in and it read
18 lbs. Obviously, this is not exactly
pin-point accuracy but it was
in line with what I'd been told prior to
purchasing (just under 20 lbs).
What I can tell you is that they are
*ridiculously* light... to the
point of feeling "fake". Anyone who's
picked up a stock wheel knows
they feel like they're filled with
concrete. The contrast is huge. ;)
-JD
http://www.edge-software.com/private/jd/vr4
1993
Caracas Red 3000GT VR4 -------------------------------
Factory stock, with
all options: sunroof, chrome wheels,
premium sound system, and cd
changer
1992 Sandstone Gray Metallic 3000GT VR4
-------------------
Blitz DSBC, Blitz SBOV, SPI Boost Gauge, WeaponX
Intake,
Eibach Springs, Stillen Crossdrilled Rotors, Metal Matrix
Pads,
Borla Exhaust, Snake Eyes Mod., Volk Challenge wheels
(Chrome
w/Black Diamond lip), Firehawk SZ50 275/40 zr17
tires.
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 21:29:27
+0100
From: Gordon Tyrrell <gordon.tyrrell@openet-int.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Which model turbo is in my car (numbers from casing below)
I've
taken the numbers from the casing on the front turbo of my car.
Someone
(sorry I can't remember who) said they would be able to tell me
if they are
9B or 13G turbos from the numbers.
Here goes:
49177-02300 TD04 (2/D)
Thanks
Gordon
Dublin,
Ireland
1993 Japanese Import VR4
http://fly.to/mr2.ie
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 13:33:01
-0700
From: Ken Middaugh <Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: 60K service related
Tallahassee Mitsu is not very quick with
their email. It is much better to call
them at 888-689-1788. I
ordered the following parts from Norco Mitsu last
Sept., whose prices are
similar to Tallahassee's, but I didn't do the plugs &
plenum gasket
yet:
114.44 timing belt
62.62 tbelt
tensioner
21.83 tensioner pulley
20.96 idler
pulley
78.54 water pump
4.50 crank seal
4.76 x 4 cam seals
19.43 a/c belt
16.89 alt
belt
18.95 p/s belt
~35.00 x 2 accessory idler
pulley
16.94 thermostat & gasket
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464.14 subtotal for 120K
parts
While they're in there, you should consider replacing all pulleys
(they have
bearings which will squeak when the wear) and seals. You
don't want to pay for
this labor again.
Good
luck,
Ken
aa2345@wayne.edu
wrote:
>
> Hello Team,
>
> I have 5 quick question for
those that might know. I am going to do
> within the next few days a
60K tune-up on my brothers 94 TT (stock).
>
> 1. Are these
prices reasonable (the Mitsu ones $582 except for spark
>
plugs)?
> 2. Is labor reasonable from the Mitsu Dealer ($585) for
the 60K service?
> 3. Are both the Idler Belt Pulley Part numbers
(MD140071 and MD319022)
> necessary?
> 4. Can I ask the Mitsu
Dealer to set the spark plug setting to .31
> instead of .39 for
now? This is because I plan on putting in an
> electronic boost
controller in this car within 1 or 2 months. Will it
> hurt anything
if I run the plugs on such a short distance?
> 5. Does anyone know
of better Spark Plug wires (how much, where bought
> from?) and spark
plugs than the stock ones, keeping in mind a boost
> controller in the
near future.
>
> Here are the parts I looked up at the Dodge Dealer
and at a Mitsu Dealer.
> I have to admit that the Mitsu dealer had prices
cheaper by 27%.
>
> 1994 Dodge Stealth Twin Turbo (60K
service)
>
>
$131 MD193874 Timing
Belt
>
$88 MD319040
Tensioneer
>
$109 MD972005 Water
Pump
>
$25 MD174234
Thermostat
>
$19 MD172376
Power Steering Belt
>
$25 MD187463
Accessory (A/C) Belt
>
$30 MB658136
Fuel Filter
>
$3
MD180361 Throtle Body
Gasket
>
$10 MD143791
Intake Plenum Gasket
>
$81 MD193980
Spark Plug
Wires
>
???????? Platinum NKG Spark
plugs
> $31.44
MD140071 Timing Belt Idler
Pulley possible
part
>
numbers
> $29.61
MD319022
>
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>
$582.48 all the above parts except for the Platinum NKG
plugs
>
$585 Labor from Mitsu Dealer
>
> Here are the
prices I got from a Dodge
Dealer.
>
$793 all the above parts except for the Platinum NKG
plugs
>
$850 Labor from Dodge Dealer
>
> As you can see, the
Dodge dealer is a rip-off.
>
> I e-mailed Tallahassee Mitsubishi
this list of part numbers, but so far
> they have not replied back with
the prices so that I can see if they are
> cheaper. The mitsu dealer
agreed to put in original factory parts.
>
> Thanks in advance to
anyone who will help, and to someones website (that I
> only have a
printout of) who I cant give the proper credit. You know who
> you
are. Really nice website entitled Team 3S- Dodge Stealth
Mitsubishi
> 3000GT 60k Service. Wish I could give the propper
credit.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Mike.
> 94 Pearl
Yellow Stealth TT
> 93 Red Stealth Base model, 5 sp needs 120K
tune-up, so if anyone has the
> part numbers necessary for the tune-up or
can point me to the right
> website, I will greatly appreciate it.
>
> Detroit Metro Area.
>
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- --
Forget world peace -- visualize using your turn
signal!
Ken Middaugh (858) 455-4510
General Atomics
San
Diego
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 15:46:47
-0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: 60K service
related
>---------------------
>
$582.48 all the above parts except for the Platinum NKG
plugs
> $585 Labor from Mitsu
Dealer
>
I thought just the folks on the coasts were getting
*&*&^% by their Mitsu
dealers, but I see it's everywhere
The Mitsu
dealer in Cedar Rapids replaced my timing belt and water pump for
$720, parts
and labor. It was under warranty, so maybe that's cheaper.
Rich/old
poop/94 VR4
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:15:23
EDT
From: DSMDealer1@aol.com
Subject: Fwd: Team3S:
60K service related (pricing)
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Date:
Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:03:35 EDT
Subject: Re: Team3S: 60K service related
(pricing)
To: aa2345@wayne.edu
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Mike,
I'm sending you my
pricing on the below parts on the right side of the
columns.
Josh
Conicelli Mitsubishi
610-272-8504
(8am-5pm EST)
In
a message dated 6/22/2000 3:46:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
aa2345@wayne.edu writes:
<< Here
are the parts I looked up at the Dodge Dealer and at a Mitsu Dealer.
I
have to admit that the Mitsu dealer had prices cheaper by 27%.
1994 Dodge Stealth Twin Turbo (60K
service)
$131 MD193874 Timing
Belt $91.45
$88
MD319040
Tensioneer
$58.71
$109
MD972005 Water Pump
$75.84
$25
MD174234
Thermostat
$15.89
$19
MD172376 Power Steering Belt
$12.19
$25
MD187463 Accessory (A/C) Belt
$15.83
$30 MB658136 Fuel
Filter
$20.19
$3
MD180361 Throtle Body
Gasket
$1.50
$10
MD143791 Intake Plenum
Gasket
$5.63
$81
MD193980 Spark Plug
Wires
$54.04
???????? Platinum NKG Spark
plugs $9.24/each
(MS851336)
$31.44
MD140071 Timing Belt Idler
Pulley
$20.87
numbers
$29.61
MD319022
$19.65
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$582.48 all the above parts except for the Platinum NKG plugs
>>
$391.79
is my total (Conicelli) without plugs and $447.23 with the plugs.
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 15:19:50
-0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
What Wheels?
Merritt wrote
> I need to stay with a 17 in. wheel
(because of race tire availability), I
> need a wheel that can withstand
open track/driver school events, and I'd
> dearly love to have lots of
open spaces (read: skinny spokes) to cool brakes.
I'm with you on
that --- the 17" tires are $50 less than the 18". At a set per
year that adds
up.
=======================================================
> Anybody
got any ideas on what might fit these requirements?
> What are you other
racers running?
The attached post is from Geoff Mohler, who sez that the
CCW [ Complete
Custom Wheels ] are the hot setup. After a brief bit of
snooping I am starting
to feel the same way. The following link is to an RX7
site where the wheels are
discussed. http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/wheels.html#COM
Geoff Mohler wrote:
The CCWs are for road racing only, no
street wheel will be able to handle
a course in such a heavy
car.
17x10 custom build 2pc wheels..about 17lbs/ea. 275 40/17s
Kumhos at about
27-30psi all around (concrete or asphalt..depends). SAE
heat treated
longer front studs, and 3/4" generic wheel spacers. I need
to get some
hub-centric spacers cut, OR 3/4" added to the hat of the
wheel.
Jim Berry [
I may be getting older, but I refuse to grow up ]
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Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 00:25:52
+0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Which model turbo is in my car (numbers from casing below)
>
Here goes: 49177-02300 TD04 (2/D)
These are the pre-93
9b turbos. The 13g's number is 49177-00400. The 400
stand for 93+ turbos and
the leading zero is a grinded down number with a
stamped 0 for the
modification.
Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 15:30:45
-0700
From: jeff.mohler@netapp.com
Subject: RE:
Team3S: What Wheels?
I only say "cant handle it" because Ive now bent
three different brands of
'racing wheels'..and CCW is standing on thier claim
of "You wont do that here"
- -----Original Message-----
From: Jim
Berry [mailto:fastmax@home.com]
Sent:
Thursday, June 22, 2000 3:20 PM
To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st;
Merritt
Subject: Re: Team3S: What Wheels?
Merritt
wrote
> I need to stay with a 17 in. wheel (because of race tire
availability), I
> need a wheel that can withstand open track/driver
school events, and I'd
> dearly love to have lots of open spaces (read:
skinny spokes) to cool brakes.
I'm with you on that --- the 17"
tires are $50 less than the 18". At a set per
year that adds
up.
=======================================================
> Anybody
got any ideas on what might fit these requirements?
> What are you other
racers running?
The attached post is from Geoff Mohler, who sez that the
CCW [ Complete
Custom Wheels ] are the hot setup. After a brief bit of
snooping I am starting
to feel the same way. The following link is to an RX7
site where the wheels are
discussed. http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/wheels.html#COM
Geoff Mohler wrote:
The CCWs are for road racing only, no
street wheel will be able to handle
a course in such a heavy
car.
17x10 custom build 2pc wheels..about 17lbs/ea. 275 40/17s
Kumhos at about
27-30psi all around (concrete or asphalt..depends). SAE
heat treated
longer front studs, and 3/4" generic wheel spacers. I need
to get some
hub-centric spacers cut, OR 3/4" added to the hat of the
wheel.
Jim Berry [
I may be getting older, but I refuse to grow up ]
***
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:39:05
-0400
From: denny medeiros <dennymedeiros@videotron.ca>
Subject:
Team3S: Just want to introduce myself!!
Hi! Guy's,
Am a new Guy in
this list....Am very happy to have joined this list i hope
in learning a lot
of things about the stealth.
I have been a Turbo guy and my knowledge is
pretty good...my type of car was
a honda civic turbo that i owned
before....it was a good project and all but
i got bored....now i am looking
for a used 1991-1993 stealth RT turbo...am
inlove with this car like
CRAZY....Its just the Total Package( 4 wheel
drive, twin turbo's and a kick
ass V6 built by mitsubishi....plus the exotic
look with a beautifull
interior....
If any body is from Canada, Ontario.....ottawa Please But
please lets get
together and give me a kick ass ride...am dying to feel the
G's...
Denny Medeiros
* Dreaming of my midnight black
stealth turbo*
but i have never driving a
stealth
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 19:55:56
-0400
From: Denny Maderi <dmaderi@iname.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Fog Lamps
I own a 93' dodge stealth ES - I recently noticed that there
was water
building up in the passenger side fog lamp. So I removed it and
found
out that the lamp had been broken at one point and someone tried
to
repair it. Well as you can guess they did not do so well of a job - So
I
guess my question is does anyone know anywhere I might get a used
fog
lamp? I priced out a new one at the local dealer and it was 259.39 (
a
little to expensive for my pockets ). So if you know anyone or
yourself
have spare parts please let me know!! Thanks!!
-
-Deano
Syracuse - NY
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:59:23
-0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: What Wheels?
>The attached post is from Geoff Mohler, who
sez that the CCW [ Complete
>Custom Wheels ] are the hot setup. After a
brief bit of snooping I am
starting
>to feel the same way. The
following link is to an RX7 site where the
wheels are
>discussed. http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/wheels.html#COM
>
$345 per wheel is a bit steep for me.
\
Rich/old
poop
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:10:49
-0700
From: jeff.mohler@netapp.com
Subject: RE:
Team3S: What Wheels?
You kiddin me?
Id've saved lots of cash at
that price...well..
I paid $1900 including shipping 2-day UPS from
Florida for mine.
Checked torque on all 10,000 bolts..mounted the
tires..was the smoothest wide
wheel ive ever used before..
-
-----Original Message-----
From: Merritt [mailto:merritt@cedar-rapids.net]
Sent:
Thursday, June 22, 2000 4:59 PM
To: Jim Berry; Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject:
Re: Team3S: What Wheels?
>The attached post is from Geoff Mohler,
who sez that the CCW [ Complete
>Custom Wheels ] are the hot setup. After
a brief bit of snooping I am
starting
>to feel the same way. The
following link is to an RX7 site where the
wheels are
>discussed. http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/wheels.html#COM
>
$345 per wheel is a bit steep for me.
\
Rich/old
poop
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 20:07:28
-0100
From: "Jason Barnhart" <phnxgld@erols.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Sumitomo tires?
I'm not surprised, but I can gurantee the
Firehawks hook WAY better in 275
than 245 GSCs or 245
Pzeros.
Jason
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
>
> [mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of Jason Barnhart
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 12:38
PM
> > To: Ken Middaugh; Matt Jannusch
> > Cc: team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
> >
Subject: Re: Team3S: Sumitomo tires?
> >
> >
> > I'm
also running Firehawk SZ50 EPs now in 275/40/17 (they sure
> > don't
look 3
> > centimeters wider than my Pzeros were) and the traction
is
> > amazing. I could
> > light my Pzeros up pretty
easily, even from a roll in first on
> > cold nights,
> > but
I'm wondering if my clutch is going to hold up as the Firehawks just
>
> won't spin. I've noticed some minor rubbing on the plastic
inner
fender,
> > when I get around to it I'll secure the plastic so
it doesn't
> > move around so
> > much. They seem very
quite and track very well. The tread is
> > really deep,
>
> so I'd expect to get a lot of life out of them.
> >
> >
Jason
> > 94 VR4
> >
> >
> > ***
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> >
>
>
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 19:21:44
-0500
From: "Kyle Meyer" <kyle@logicaldirection.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Sumitomo tires?
I just wouldn't want to pay a premium for
larger rubber to get the
equivalent of a 255 or a 265...
I value my
rubber/dollar ratio :>
- -Kyle
> -----Original
Message-----
> From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
>
[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of Jason Barnhart
> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 4:07 PM
>
To: Kyle Meyer
> Cc: team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Sumitomo tires?
>
>
> I'm not surprised,
but I can gurantee the Firehawks hook WAY better in 275
> than 245 GSCs or
245 Pzeros.
>
> Jason
>
> > > -----Original
Message-----
> > > From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
>
> > [mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of Jason Barnhart
> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 12:38
PM
> > > To: Ken Middaugh; Matt Jannusch
> > > Cc: team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
> >
> Subject: Re: Team3S: Sumitomo tires?
> > >
> >
>
> > > I'm also running Firehawk SZ50 EPs now in 275/40/17 (they
sure
> > > don't look 3
> > > centimeters wider than my
Pzeros were) and the traction is
> > > amazing. I
could
> > > light my Pzeros up pretty easily, even from a roll in
first on
> > > cold nights,
> > > but I'm wondering if
my clutch is going to hold up as the
> Firehawks just
> > >
won't spin. I've noticed some minor rubbing on the plastic inner
>
fender,
> > > when I get around to it I'll secure the plastic so it
doesn't
> > > move around so
> > > much. They seem
very quite and track very well. The tread is
> > > really
deep,
> > > so I'd expect to get a lot of life out of them.
>
> >
> > > Jason
> > > 94 VR4
> >
>
> > >
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> >
> >
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 20:40:17
-0100
From: "Jason Barnhart" <phnxgld@erols.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Sumitomo tires?
I can understand that, but the 275/40/17 Firehawk
SZ50 EPs are selling for
$204 ea on tirerack (http://www.tirerack.com). Personally I
think I over
did it with these tires, they just stick too well and I'm not
sure my clutch
(Centerforce DF) is going to hold up.
Jason
-
----- Original Message -----
From: Kyle Meyer <kyle@logicaldirection.com>
To:
Jason Barnhart <phnxgld@erols.com>
Cc: <team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Thursday, June 22, 2000 11:21 PM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Sumitomo
tires?
> I just wouldn't want to pay a premium for larger rubber
to get the
> equivalent of a 255 or a 265...
>
> I value my
rubber/dollar ratio :>
> -Kyle
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:42:06
-0700
From: jeff.mohler@netapp.com
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Sumitomo tires?
Then you have a driver education
issue..
Dont push it so hard...thats still a good
clutch.
Personally ive tired of the straight-line stuff in the VR4, and
have moved it to
open course work..which I would suggest all of you do at
least once *grin*.
1320' use is just pretty darn abusive on our
cars..I'll keep the Supra for the
1/4mi stuff, lot more durable.
-
-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Barnhart [mailto:phnxgld@erols.com]
Sent: Thursday,
June 22, 2000 2:40 PM
To: Kyle Meyer
Cc: team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Sumitomo tires?
I can understand that, but the 275/40/17
Firehawk SZ50 EPs are selling for
$204 ea on tirerack (http://www.tirerack.com). Personally I
think I over
did it with these tires, they just stick too well and I'm not
sure my clutch
(Centerforce DF) is going to hold up.
Jason
-
----- Original Message -----
From: Kyle Meyer <kyle@logicaldirection.com>
To:
Jason Barnhart <phnxgld@erols.com>
Cc: <team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Thursday, June 22, 2000 11:21 PM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Sumitomo
tires?
> I just wouldn't want to pay a premium for larger rubber
to get the
> equivalent of a 255 or a 265...
>
> I value my
rubber/dollar ratio :>
> -Kyle
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:55:14
-0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
What Wheels?
Geoff wrote
> You kiddin me?
>
>
Id've saved lots of cash at that price...well..
>
> I paid $1900
including shipping 2-day UPS from Florida for mine.
>
> Checked
torque on all 10,000 bolts..mounted the tires..was the smoothest wide
>
wheel ive ever used
before..
==================================================
>
>The attached post is from Geoff Mohler, who sez that the CCW [
Complete
> >Custom Wheels ] are the hot setup. After a brief bit of
snooping I am
> starting
> >to feel the same way.
===============================================
Merrit
wrote:
> $345 per wheel is a bit steep for me.
> \
>
Rich/old poop
Rich
Depends on how much you value your life
--- I'd feel a lot better going into turn 8
at Willow springs at 120 mph if
my wheels were the best available.
BTW, I see the CCWs are listed as race
only --- Geoff, you have a set , care to
elaborate ?? Is this a lack of DOT
certification or what.
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:00:45
-0700
From: jeff.mohler@netapp.com
Subject: RE:
Team3S: What Wheels?
Rich
Depends on how much you value your life
--- I'd feel a lot better going into
turn 8
at Willow springs at 120 mph
if my wheels were the best available.
BTW, I see the CCWs are listed as
race only --- Geoff, you have a set , care to
elaborate ?? Is this a lack of
DOT certification or what.
- ---
Not aware of a DOT stamp for
wheels..but I dont see a need for 17x10" wheels
that stick out of the car
1.5" all around for the street, and I dont have to
swap race rubber for
street rubber all the time anymore either.
Im just sick of bending
"strong" street wheels while racing.
If you wanna see what a 4000lb car
under cornering stress does to a set of
racing OZs, I will SHIP YOU FREE a
set of 17x8.5's that are bent in all axis to
the point that not even autox
speeds are comfortatble...worse that having bad
struts that
bounce.
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 20:02:32
-0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Sumitomo tires?
>Personally ive tired of the straight-line
stuff in the VR4, and have moved
it to
>open course work..which I would
suggest all of you do at least once *grin*.
Hear hear! I'll second
that!
In drag racing, it's all over in 12+ seconds, then you have to wait
HOURS
to run again. Same with autocrossing. In open tracking, we run flat out
for
HOURS!! And we really don't hurt the car, because we don't
bangshift the
tranny, perform tire-burning launches, or run 7200 rpm all day
(I shift at
6000, unless I am running down a 911 or an M3). In fact, I
believe that
open tracking is what the Mitsu engineers designed our cars to
do, because
they are so good at it.
Rich/old poop/94
VR4
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:18:13
-0700
From: "Chris Maxwell" <shmacker@home.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Trying to bleed clutch, ran into problems...
Okay, I replaced the engine
but haven't started it yet because I'm trying to
take care of putting all the
fluids in and what not. Well, I was trying to
bleed my clutch but for
some reason the pedal would always stay light except
for the last 1/2inch
when I pushed it in. I did the "press clutch in a few
times while
bleeder valve was open, then close it when clutch is fully
depressed"
technique a few times but there is no improvement in the pedal.
When I say
that the pedal is light, I mean that when I press it, it is not
actuating the
clutch release cylinder. It's like there is air in the system
and I
can't get it out. I disconnected the booster tube when I was
putting
the tranny back in, so would that make a difference? Is this
something that
might be booster related? Do I need to start the car
first to build up
pressure somewhere?
Thanks again,
Chris
92 R/T
TT
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 20:07:07
-0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: What Wheels?
>
>Im just sick of bending "strong"
street wheels while racing.
I've been running stock wheels, and haven't
bent one yet.
>
>If you wanna see what a 4000lb car under cornering
stress does to a set of
>racing OZs, I will SHIP YOU FREE a set of
17x8.5's that are bent in all
axis to
>the point that not even autox
speeds are comfortatble...worse that having bad
>struts that
bounce.
>
I guess that rules out Oz wheels. They bend, and Oz won't
replace them, I
take it.
Rich
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:09:03
-0700
From: jeff.mohler@netapp.com
Subject: RE:
Team3S: What Wheels?
No..they wont touch em..you "raced"
*grin*
And funny compound wheels like OZ..wheel straigtening places wont
touch either.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Merritt [mailto:merritt@cedar-rapids.net]
Sent:
Thursday, June 22, 2000 6:07 PM
To: Mohler, Jeff; Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject:
RE: Team3S: What Wheels?
>
>Im just sick of bending "strong"
street wheels while racing.
I've been running stock wheels, and haven't
bent one yet.
>
>If you wanna see what a 4000lb car under cornering
stress does to a set of
>racing OZs, I will SHIP YOU FREE a set of
17x8.5's that are bent in all
axis to
>the point that not even autox
speeds are comfortatble...worse that having bad
>struts that
bounce.
>
I guess that rules out Oz wheels. They bend, and Oz won't
replace them, I
take it.
Rich
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 21:14:03
-0400
From: "Fred Richardson" <rich@magma.ca>
Subject: Team3S: Re: Which
model turbo ?
Has anyone on the list have a compilation of the different
OEM turbo
numbers, both the stamped one and the matching 9b to 15 as they
evolved over
the years. I would be interested in such a list, including the
ones used in
the Stealth RT TT as well.
Regards,
Fred
R.
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 21:31:28
-0100
From: "Jason Barnhart" <phnxgld@erols.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Sumitomo tires?
I certainly don't profess to be a world class
driver, but I know my car
pretty well and it's a problem when the tires WON'T
spin. Instead, the
clutch slips. I don't dump the clutch any
longer, WAY too much traction to
try that, but it's a quick slip, one that
would all but roast my Pzeros.
I'm lucky if it spins enough not to bog when
it finally hooks, when it does
it's usually a cool night. Besides, if
the DF Centerforce can't cope with
400-420 hp, then it's junk in my
opinion. I'm planning on running road
courses every now and then, I'm
only about 1.5 hrs from Summit Point, but I
need to get the new (factory)
struts and Porterfield brakes on first.
Jason
12.82 at 109.40 with a
1.92 60' (first race day with new clutch and Pzeros)
114k
miles.
13.36 at 101.5 with 88k miles and a Weapon-R filter
- -----
Original Message -----
From: <jeff.mohler@netapp.com>
Cc:
<team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Thursday, June 22, 2000 11:42 PM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Sumitomo
tires?
> Then you have a driver education issue..
>
>
Dont push it so hard...thats still a good clutch.
>
> Personally ive
tired of the straight-line stuff in the VR4, and have moved
it to
>
open course work..which I would suggest all of you do at least
once
*grin*.
>
> 1320' use is just pretty darn abusive on our
cars..I'll keep the Supra for
the
> 1/4mi stuff, lot more
durable.
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 20:55:08
-0500
From: Matt Jannusch <MAJ@BigCharts.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: What Wheels?
> No..they wont touch em..you "raced"
*grin*
> And funny compound wheels like OZ..wheel straigtening places wont
touch either.
So you can't race the OZ "Racing" wheels?
Nice...
I suppose I'll want to find some lighter, stronger wheels at some
point but for now the stock 17" chrome wheels are okay for my needs. They
seem very* heavy though. Less mass on the wheels would probably make
acceleration and braking easier on the car. I have a suspicion that one of
them might be slightly bent though as I get some wheel jiggle when turning that
alignment hasn't solved. I'm hoping that it could actually be unevenly
worn tires (worn from hard autocrossing) that is causing it and that a set of
new tires might fix it back up.
- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder
VR4
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 22:43:12
EDT
From: "Dg B" <dbretton@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Team3S: OT: For all of you who ever dreamed of this...
Hi
folks!
I know I am going to get flak for this. However, I am
willing take it on
the chin for this OT post.
I ran across this on Ebay,
and it made me think of the first thing that ever
got me interested in these
go-fast Japanese cars... :)
I won't spoil the surprise, but click on the
link below if you like go-fast
cars *and* were a fan of Japanese animation
as a kid.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=362127435&r=0&t=0
I
apologize for the OT post, fellas, but I really think it was worth it.
(It made me grin from ear to ear, and I had to share it with some of
you)
Regards,
Dennis
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Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 20:26:41
-0700
From: jeff.mohler@netapp.com
Subject: RE:
Team3S: Sumitomo tires?
Yes..isnt that a good thing tho!!
The
clutch needs to be the weak point in the car..wheelspin loses time and
wastes
-valuable- off the line momentum.
And..Ive always been of the opinion
that the CFDF _is_ junk..they are on Supras.
- -----Original
Message-----
From: Jason Barnhart [mailto:phnxgld@erols.com]
Sent: Thursday,
June 22, 2000 3:31 PM
To: Mohler, Jeff
Cc: team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Sumitomo tires?
I certainly don't profess to be a world
class driver, but I know my car
pretty well and it's a problem when the tires
WON'T spin. Instead, the
clutch slips. I don't dump the clutch
any longer, WAY too much traction to
try that, but it's a quick slip, one
that would all but roast my Pzeros.
I'm lucky if it spins enough not to bog
when it finally hooks, when it does
it's usually a cool night. Besides,
if the DF Centerforce can't cope with
400-420 hp, then it's junk in my
opinion. I'm planning on running road
courses every now and then, I'm
only about 1.5 hrs from Summit Point, but I
need to get the new (factory)
struts and Porterfield brakes on first.
Jason
12.82 at 109.40 with a
1.92 60' (first race day with new clutch and Pzeros)
114k
miles.
13.36 at 101.5 with 88k miles and a Weapon-R filter
- -----
Original Message -----
From: <jeff.mohler@netapp.com>
Cc:
<team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Thursday, June 22, 2000 11:42 PM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Sumitomo
tires?
> Then you have a driver education issue..
>
>
Dont push it so hard...thats still a good clutch.
>
> Personally ive
tired of the straight-line stuff in the VR4, and have moved
it to
>
open course work..which I would suggest all of you do at least
once
*grin*.
>
> 1320' use is just pretty darn abusive on our
cars..I'll keep the Supra for
the
> 1/4mi stuff, lot more
durable.
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