team3s            Wednesday, June 21 2000            Volume 01 : Number 171




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Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 20:07:36 -0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Team3S: pressure plate and flywheel

Anyone have pictures of the stock pressure plate and flywheel --- web site
or digital pics. If so please contact me privately.


        Jim Berry


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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 19:50:50 -0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Team3S: flywheel

I'm looking for information on resurfacing the flywheel on turbo cars.
I finally got my used [ 5K miles ] Mueller lightweight flywheel and would
like to touch up the surface before installing it.
The flywheel is stepped --- that is the pressure plate is mounted on a
different surface/level than the clutch plate. If you remove material from
the friction surface, you alter the spacing between the flywheel friction
surface and the pressure plate friction surface. The removal of any
material is going to reduce the overall pressure exerted by the pressure
plate.
I'm sure the removal of 1 or 2 mills would have minimal a effect.
What I don't know is, how much can be removed without adversely
affecting the overall operation of clutch assembly ??

        Jim Berry


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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:38:34 -0500
From: Matt Jannusch <MAJ@BigCharts.com>
Subject: Team3S: Sumitomo tires?

Anyone tried the Sumitomo HTR Z II tires?  I'm thinking of getting a set and was wondering if anyone had tried them and whether or not they sucked.  My driving is mostly highway driving, with an autocross about once a month during non-winter times.

What sort of sizes will fit on the 17" wheels without hitting suspension components?  I looked for a FAQ, but didn't find one.  Maybe I can whip one up with whatever answers I get.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/sumitomo/su_htrz_2.jsp

I currently have a set of the Firestone Firehawk SZ's on the car and they can be pretty loud with the top down...  That's really the only thing I don't like about those.  The wear was good on them, about 25,000 miles and a number of autocrosses.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 23:54:59 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Team3S: Manual for Paxton EFI FPR needed

Unfortunately, I probably have thrown away the manual of the Paxton Fuel
pressure regulator. I need to know what the different installation options
are as well as the thread size of the port on the underside to get the
proper fitting. I'd be happy if anyone could scan the drawings or can lead
me to any information on the web.

Thanks in advance,
Roger
93'3000GT TT


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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 22:48:06 -0400
From: "Michael Booker" <mrbook@gate.net>
Subject: Team3S: Raising compression

Is there a formula, rule, or equasion that shows how high a certan engine's
compression ratio can be raised?

Matt



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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 22:13:11 -0500
From: "Brad Bedell" <bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: flywheel

As long as you remove the same amounts from both levels, you will be okay.


Brad
Check out my home page:  http://home.austin.rr.com/overboost/
E-Mail: bbedell@austin.rr.com ICQ#  3612682

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From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Jim Berry
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 9:51 PM
To: team3S@stealth-3000gt.st; starnet
Subject: Team3S: flywheel

I'm looking for information on resurfacing the flywheel on turbo cars.
I finally got my used [ 5K miles ] Mueller lightweight flywheel and would
like to touch up the surface before installing it.
The flywheel is stepped --- that is the pressure plate is mounted on a
different surface/level than the clutch plate. If you remove material from
the friction surface, you alter the spacing between the flywheel friction
surface and the pressure plate friction surface. The removal of any
material is going to reduce the overall pressure exerted by the pressure
plate.
I'm sure the removal of 1 or 2 mills would have minimal a effect.
What I don't know is, how much can be removed without adversely
affecting the overall operation of clutch assembly ??

        Jim Berry


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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 20:44:09 -0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Team3S: Fw: flywheel

 I'm looking for information on resurfacing the flywheel on turbo cars.
I finally got my used [ 5K miles ] Mueller lightweight flywheel and would
 like to touch up the surface before installing it.
The flywheel is stepped --- that is the pressure plate is mounted on a
 different surface/level than the clutch plate. If you remove material from
the friction surface, you alter the spacing between the flywheel friction
surface and the pressure plate friction surface. The removal of any
 material is going to reduce the overall pressure exerted by the pressure
plate.
I'm sure the removal of 1 or 2 mills would have minimal a effect.
What I don't know is, how much can be removed without adversely
 affecting the overall operation of clutch assembly ??
 
         Jim Berry
 


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Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 11:47:34 -0500
From: "Vineet Singh" <billi_gates@hotmail.com>
Subject: Team3S: Anyone have a spare TCU from a...

Hello, does anyone out there have a junked or parts car,

*1991-1992 (and possibly 1993) "3000gt SL" or Dodge Stealth RT / ES with the
220 (dohc, but n/a engine). If so, is it an A/T tranny?

If you have the above, I would be interested in purchasing the A/T TCU (A/t
tranny computer). It's not because I NEED it, I want to experiment with it,
so as such, I don't want to spend a whole lot of money on something, that
may or may not work for what I am trying.

Someone was sending me one from Canada, but it never got here. The sender
insists that he sent it... <sigh>.

Please contact me offline about this, as I don't want to add to the clutter,
my email address is eagletek@hotmail.com (my normal one, the
billi_gates@hotmail.com is just for 3/S digests, and not checked as often).

Thanks in advance!

Vineet Singh
Manuals On CD - http://manualcd.dsm.org
Club DSM A/T - http://at.dsm.org  -  "Never Lift To Shift!"

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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 20:57:41 -0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: flywheel

Brad thanks !!!

I know you can do that on a stock flywheel, but the Mueller lightweight has a billet
aluminum disk with a replaceable hardened steel friction surface. I can't undo any
modifications to the pressure plate mounting surface when I replace the steel
friction surface.
The replacement friction surface is $100 --- In this case I just want to touch up the
surface, but I'd also like to know how much I can remove, if any.

        Jim berry
================================================



 Brad wrote
> As long as you remove the same amounts from both levels, you will be okay.

============================================================
Jim Berry wrote

>> Subject: Team3S: flywheel
>>I'm looking for information on resurfacing the flywheel on turbo cars.
>> I finally got my used [ 5K miles ] Mueller lightweight flywheel and would
>> like to touch up the surface before installing it.
>> The flywheel is stepped --- that is the pressure plate is mounted on a
>> different surface/level than the clutch plate. If you remove material from
>> the friction surface, you alter the spacing between the flywheel friction
>> surface and the pressure plate friction surface. The removal of any
>> material is going to reduce the overall pressure exerted by the pressure
>> plate.
>> I'm sure the removal of 1 or 2 mills would have minimal a effect.
>> What I don't know is, how much can be removed without adversely
>> affecting the overall operation of clutch assembly ??
>>
>>         Jim Berry
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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:04:47 +0100
From: Gordon Tyrrell <gordon.tyrrell@openet-int.com>
Subject: Team3S: HKS boost controller? Good/bad/indifferent

I've finally found someone up in Northern Ireland that can supply and
fit a boost controller and stuff. Only thing is I have only 1 option, an
HKS EVC4 electronic controller with a Fuel-Cut defender.

Is this a good option? If not, what is better. The price seems quite
high stg£630 ($900) plus 4 hours labour. Is this normal or high? I'm
getting the HKS N2 exhaust at the same time and thinking about the
"Super PowerFlow free-flow induction system with twin filters £215.00 1
hour Fitting time"

Anyone think this is steep or there is a better option?

Can anyone supply to Ireland (add 4.7%duty then add 21% VAT onto the
price for the import to compare prices, plus shipping of course).

Thanks
Gordon
Dublin, Ireland
1993 Japanese Import VR4
http://fly.to/mr2.ie

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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:08:32 +0100
From: Gordon Tyrrell <gordon.tyrrell@openet-int.com>
Subject: Team3S: Question for Japanese owners

Hi there in Japan,

Note for US owners: 3000GT in Japan is called Mitsu GTO

I was speaking (ok mailing) with Brad Bedell the other day and he was
saying that he thought that the Japanese VR4 GTOs were fitted with the
13G turbo as standard. I know the MR2 Turbo I had ('95) had a bigger,
ceramic turbo than all other markets so this is very possible for the
VR4 too. Can anyone over there confirm/deny this for me please as I'm
considering upgrading the turbos and want to be sure what I have before
I upgrade.

Thanks
Gordon
Dublin, Ireland
1993 Japanese Import VR4
http://fly.to/mr2.ie

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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 21:36:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matt Wise <diranged@south-park.cc>
Subject: Re: Team3S: HKS boost controller? Good/bad/indifferent

$900!??!?!? Dude the labor is like 20 mins! Thats a horrid price!

On Thu, 15 Jun 2000, Gordon Tyrrell wrote:

> I've finally found someone up in Northern Ireland that can supply and
> fit a boost controller and stuff. Only thing is I have only 1 option, an
> HKS EVC4 electronic controller with a Fuel-Cut defender.
>
> Is this a good option? If not, what is better. The price seems quite
> high stg£630 ($900) plus 4 hours labour. Is this normal or high? I'm
> getting the HKS N2 exhaust at the same time and thinking about the
> "Super PowerFlow free-flow induction system with twin filters £215.00 1
> hour Fitting time"
>
> Anyone think this is steep or there is a better option?
>
> Can anyone supply to Ireland (add 4.7%duty then add 21% VAT onto the
> price for the import to compare prices, plus shipping of course).
>
> Thanks
> Gordon
> Dublin, Ireland
> 1993 Japanese Import VR4
> http://fly.to/mr2.ie
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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 22:10:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: Team3S: [Admin]: Back..

Well, PacBell fessed up to a severe mass DSL outage today after it died on
me Wednesday night...

Thier lack of planning for thier DSL carrier hardware came to roost when
the power outages fried about 5,000 line cards that supply DSL to the
last-mile copper.

Instead of a mass fix, they were only replacing hardware as complaints
came in..so I screamed for _5_ days.

Good news:

Went to Thunderhill.  I mentally wanted to compete with a F355 Ferarri,
and a massively built Lingenfelter Firebird..theyre both friends at work
with course experience..one an IMSA driver.

Better news:

The new 17x10 CCW wheels, on the 275 kumhos at 30psi just freakin
rocked...I drove the tar outta em (for what I could..read more later) and
for about 8 very very hard laps, I had no scrub, and hadnt yet found the
cornering capacity of the combination.  I also opted to use 3/4" spacers
up front to completely remove the tracking differences in the car (1"
narrower in front than rear..this creates understeer) and 1/2" extra to
induce some oversteer that I could control easier with tire
pressures..than understeer.  With the offset and wheel dimensions I gave,
I had about 1.5-2" of tire outside each fenderwell, and had to bang up the
knife-edge of sheet metal over the rear tires...check your cars..its
there.

BEST news:

For my 8 good laps, I was right smack on both the firebird and the
Ferarri..the Firebird however had significant horsepower, and the long
straights he was able to take about 10-15yds away from me each lap.  The
Big Red brake upgrade..also worked great.  I NEVER found the edge of
braking in the 8 laps I was out (granted I could have used a dozen more to
really tune in where/how I could brake/turn most effectively).  The VR4,
and myself..were wholeheartedly congratulated for a much better than
expected performance, and my passenger and instructor had no advice to
give..other than he cant wait to see some suspention on the car..he was
grinning like a SOB...the quality of performance was NOT expected.

The bad news:

Major, massive, terminal overheating took place...lost the motor.

Lap 7, no probs, check the guage again in back straight of lap 8, its thru
the roof..and the last half of the course basically coasting barely nudges
it down.  Lots of heater and idling in the paddock brings it down to
normal...but over 2200rpm theres a loud hammering.

I belive its a wrist pin..idles perfectly, but knocks like hell above
that.

The EVC-4 was set for 1b, and water injection was installed and worked
flawlessly.

*shrug*  Just means I get to tear it down now *grin*

Can anyone suggest a building in the SF Bay area?  I dont have the
gumption to pull this myself and put it back..and would rather give it to
someone now..discuss what I want, and go write a check and take it back in
3-4 months when its done.

Any references in CA would be great.

I would like a sustainable 20psi motor, and suggestions for a monster
radiator would be handy.

The expected news:

The porterfield CD rotors, cracked at the hub after only that few laps.
Will be using cryo'd stockers next time around IMHO..unless Brad/Merritt
has another rotor suggestion I can use with the Big Reds.

Thanks!


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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:39:14 -0500
From: "Scott F." <scottf@binary.net>
Subject: Team3S: Getting Rims re-chromed

If I wanted to get a couple of original VR4 rims re-chromed where is the
best place to get it done and how much does it cost.

A while back someone talked about a place in Arizona that does them for $100
a rim.


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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:40:47 -0500
From: "Scott F." <scottf@binary.net>
Subject: Team3S: Paint for wipers

What is the paint used on the front and rear wiper arms ?

Lacquer or enamel ? What can I buy off the shelf to repaint worn spots.


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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 08:46:55 +0200
From: "Robby (fs)" <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: HKS boost controller? Good/bad/indifferent

>I've finally found someone up in Northern Ireland that can supply and
>fit a boost controller and stuff. Only thing is I have only 1 option, an
>HKS EVC4 electronic controller with a Fuel-Cut defender.

First, this is extremely expensive as the controller is available in the US
for around $600 (also expensive). Get a Blitz DSBC for around $450 or Apexi
S-AVC-R for around $550. Installation (well done) is about an hour for the
Blitz and about 2 for the Apexi. Usually a garage charges $80 per hour here
in Europe.

Second, a Fuel Cut defencer doesn't work on our cars (thought I told you
that already, as it's not a Toyota)

>getting the HKS N2 exhaust at the same time

If you need it ... it doesn't help power-wise.

>"Super PowerFlow free-flow induction system with twin filters £215.00 1
>hour Fitting time"

Whatever this should be. Sounds like the overpriced HKS stuff.

>Anyone think this is steep or there is a better option?

Yes, there are better opinions.

>Can anyone supply to Ireland (add 4.7%duty then add 21% VAT onto the
>price for the import to compare prices, plus shipping of course).

Of course VAT and shipping is your stuff but a) shipping is not that
expensive (well the exhaust is of course) and b) VAT can be reduced with
the help of a fake bill for a value of about $45.56 or so.

Roger
93'3000GT TT


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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 08:52:53 +0200
From: "Robby (fs)" <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Question for Japanese owners

>Note for US owners: 3000GT in Japan is called Mitsu GTO

Yes, yes, we know. It is also called GTO in Australia. AFAIK, we do no have
japanese members on the list.

>I was speaking (ok mailing) with Brad Bedell the other day and he was
>saying that he thought that the Japanese VR4 GTOs were fitted with the
>13G turbo as standard.

No, only the European ones. This due to our higher speeds we are allowed to
drive at. I'm not sure about the UK ones as I've never seen a turbo. But
you can look closely onto your front turbo close to the rubber intake.
There is a long number in the cast. Let me know what it reads and I can
tell you the size.

Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch


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Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 13:47:21 -0700
From: "Sam Shelat" <sshelat@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Somewhat off-topic - Fuel Injection question

My 94 Transam was SFI.  It refers to how the injectors are fired.  If
individually fired, just before the intake stroke event, it is considered
SFI.  In multiport or MFI systems, the injectors are fired in banks of
injectors.  SFI usually gives better mileage and MFI usually provides a more
torquey engine.  However, I do not know if this is strictly a function of
fuel delivery, or a difference in the design of the manifolds.

Sam 95 VR-4

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From: AABOMB1@aol.com <AABOMB1@aol.com>
To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Date: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 5:36 PM
Subject: Team3S: Somewhat off-topic - Fuel Injection question


>Ok, this is somewhat off-topic because I don't it was ever features in the
>3/S cars, but I was just wondering if someone here can give me an
explanation
>of "sequential multi-point fuel injection" - i.e. and explnation of how it
>works and the advantages it offers.
>
>This, I believe, is features in cars like the Diamante and the new Maxima
>
>
>
>AA
>
>-------------------
>E-mail: aabomb@thepentagon.com <or> aabomb1@aol.com
>Fax: (707) 982-8817 [In United States]
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Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 13:51:27 -0700
From: "Sam Shelat" <sshelat@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Need instructions for gutting pre-cats / ATR Downpipe

I can spin my 4-tires with the downpipe (Stillen) and cannot without it.  I
believe its cause the turbos spool quicker and I can overpower the tires off
the line before the car has a chance to roll.

Sam 95 VR-4
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From: Michael <mdorsey@mindspring.com>
To: 'Eddie' <stealth3@superservers.net>; 'Team3S List'
<team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Date: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 8:47 PM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Need instructions for gutting pre-cats / ATR Downpipe


>I recently put the ATR DP on my 98 VR4 with a test pipe.  I can definately
>tell a difference.  Peak HP seems about the same, but the curve is much
>higher.  I don't have cold hard facts like a dyno test, but I find myself
>having to feather the throttle in corners I used to run WOT.  I can also
>notice a little loss of low end torque, but nothing to worry about.  My
>other mods are DSBC at 1.00 bar, K&N FIPK, and Borla Exhaust.  I also have
>NOT gutted the pre-cats, just replaced the main cat with a test pipe.
>
>Michael
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
>[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Eddie
>Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 18:32
>To: 'Team3S List'
>Subject: Team3S: Need instructions for gutting pre-cats / ATR Downpipe
>
>
>Does anyone have these instructions handy?
>
>Does anyone use the ATR downpipe? - Will I notice a large improvement with
>this (and gutted cats) - over our stock downpipe? - or should I save my
>money and only gut the pre-cats?
>
>Thanks.
>Eddie
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 06:05:27 -0500
From: "Dale T. Kroetz" <kroetz@mvn.net>
Subject: Team3S: K&N FIPK

I'm new to this list. Could someone tell the best/cheapest place to buy
a K&N FIPK for a 92 SL?

- --



Dale T. Kroetz
kroetz@mvn.net

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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 05:21:53 PDT
From: "Zentelis none" <zentelis@hotmail.com>
Subject: Team3S: upgrades help

Mabey some of you remember me asking where to look for Stealth TT's for sale
and finally I'm in a position to get one. (in July in fact). I'm just not
the kind of guy who likes stock (unless it's a stock hemi cuda or
charger r/t ;)). I'm pretty inexperienced at all this and would love some
opinions on the best turbo/intercooler/exhaust/etc upgrades. I don't plan on
upgrading for another few months yet so I can do alot of research. A
starting point would be greatly appreciated..an upgrades "tutorial" as it
were. Thanks in advance!
- -Aaron

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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:37:27 +0200
From: Robby <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Need instructions for gutting pre-cats / ATR Downpipe

>I can spin my 4-tires with the downpipe (Stillen) and cannot without it.  I
>believe its cause the turbos spool quicker and I can overpower the tires off
>the line before the car has a chance to roll.

These are only the front wheels that are spinning due to the 55% rear
traction we have and the time the viscous coupling needs to tranfer power.
It is possible on wet and slippery or very "non-sticking" roads, otherwise
your tranny would break faster than all wheels can couple together !

Roger
93'3000GT TT
www.rtec.ch


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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 09:04:02 -0400
From: Jeff Schwartz <jeff.schwartz@citicorp.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Sumitomo tires?

Hi Matt,
 
 I just bought the HTZ II's about 1 month ago.  They are great for the
price and look awesome, but I have to say that the handling is not as
good as the original tires which were the Yokohoma's.  The tire size is
245-40ZR18 (the stock size for the 95 VR4).  The car sort of over shoots
now, when I make an aggressive move on the highway.  I paid $180/tire
from my local place, which is the same price as www.tirerack.com.

- --
Jeff Schwartz
1995 Panama Green Pearl VR4
Borla, K&N, Magnecors, Redline Fluids


Matt Jannusch wrote:
>
> Anyone tried the Sumitomo HTR Z II tires?  I'm thinking of getting a set and was wondering if anyone had tried them and whether or not they sucked.  My driving is mostly highway driving, with an autocross about once a month during non-winter times.
>
> What sort of sizes will fit on the 17" wheels without hitting suspension components?  I looked for a FAQ, but didn't find one.  Maybe I can whip one up with whatever answers I get.
>
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/sumitomo/su_htrz_2.jsp
>
> I currently have a set of the Firestone Firehawk SZ's on the car and they can be pretty loud with the top down...  That's really the only thing I don't like about those.  The wear was good on them, about 25,000 miles and a number of autocrosses.
>
> -Matt
> '95 3000GT Spyder VR4
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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 07:10:36 -0700
From: Daniel Jett <djett@corp.ultratech.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: [Admin]: Back..

Geoff,

Try BRE in San Jose. I don't have their number, but they are in the book. I have heard good things about them. They have done a lot of European imoprts, and a couple DSM's/3S cars.

Anyway, good luck, and let me know where you take the car!

Dan Jett
94 Stealth TT


>>> Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com> - 6/20/00 10:10 PM >>>

Can anyone suggest a building in the SF Bay area?  I dont have the
gumption to pull this myself and put it back..and would rather give it to
someone now..discuss what I want, and go write a check and take it back in
3-4 months when its done.

Any references in CA would be great.

I would like a sustainable 20psi motor, and suggestions for a monster
radiator would be handy.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              

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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 08:33:35 -0700
From: jeff.mohler@netapp.com
Subject: RE: Team3S: [Admin]: Back..

Ive been told to call BRE by a few ppl now..am trying to find thier number as
the one I have found is disconnected.

Thanks!!

- -----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Jett [mailto:djett@corp.ultratech.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 7:11 AM
To: team3s@stealth-3000gt.st; gemohler@www.speedtoys.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: [Admin]: Back..


Geoff,

Try BRE in San Jose. I don't have their number, but they are in the book. I have
heard good things about them. They have done a lot of European imoprts, and a
couple DSM's/3S cars.

Anyway, good luck, and let me know where you take the car!

Dan Jett
94 Stealth TT


>>> Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com> - 6/20/00 10:10 PM >>>

Can anyone suggest a building in the SF Bay area?  I dont have the
gumption to pull this myself and put it back..and would rather give it to
someone now..discuss what I want, and go write a check and take it back in
3-4 months when its done.

Any references in CA would be great.

I would like a sustainable 20psi motor, and suggestions for a monster
radiator would be handy.

 


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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 09:11:56 -0700
From: Ken Middaugh <Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Sumitomo tires?

My '91 VR4 has about 28K on Firestone SZ50 with a little track time (I'll need
to replace them soon).  I think they are very quite compared to the Yokohama
502's that were on it when I bought it and compared to many cheap tires in other
cars I ride in.  I have 275/40/17 on stock rims.  With Eibach Pro-Kit springs
and proper alignment, there is no rubbing.  I had minor but tolerable rubbing on
stock springs.  Other brands might have different "profiles" so their 275's
might rub.

Folks in the past have commented favorably on the Sumitomo HTRZ's but I don't
remember any details.

Good luck.

Matt Jannusch wrote:
>
> Anyone tried the Sumitomo HTR Z II tires?  I'm thinking of getting a set and was wondering if anyone had tried them and whether or not they sucked.  My driving is mostly highway driving, with an autocross about once a month during non-winter times.
>
> What sort of sizes will fit on the 17" wheels without hitting suspension components?  I looked for a FAQ, but didn't find one.  Maybe I can whip one up with whatever answers I get.
>
> http://www.tirerack.com/tires/sumitomo/su_htrz_2.jsp
>
> I currently have a set of the Firestone Firehawk SZ's on the car and they can be pretty loud with the top down...  That's really the only thing I don't like about those.  The wear was good on them, about 25,000 miles and a number of autocrosses.
>
> -Matt
> '95 3000GT Spyder VR4
>
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Ken Middaugh (858) 455-4510
General Atomics
San Diego

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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 09:18:14 -0700
From: Leonard Dy <LDy@acssys.com>
Subject: Team3S: sport springs install info needed

Hello everyone....

I've done some research and decided that the lowering spring install can be
a DIY project.  The question I have regards the bump stops.  I have not come
up with any info pertaining to the issue of trimming them. Do they need to
be trimmed and by how much?  The springs I'm going to install are the RS*R.
Is there anything else I should be aware of before attempting this project
this weekend?  Any and all advice is appreciated.

Thanks for your time,
Len

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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 09:40:10 -0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Team3S: Re: Bay Area motor installer (was: [Admin]: Back...)

I don't know what they charge, but Frey Racing in MountainView gets my
vote...  Since they work on Winston Cup cars, I'd trust them any day for
squeezing every last bit of HP out of your car.  They're in the book,
and have a website:  www.freyracing.com .  Good luck!

Best,

Forrest

- ----- Original Message ----- From: <jeff.mohler@netapp.com>
To: <djett@corp.ultratech.com>; <team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>;
> Ive been told to call BRE by a few ppl now..am trying to find thier
number as
> the one I have found is disconnected.
>
> Thanks!!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Daniel Jett [mailto:djett@corp.ultratech.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2000 7:11 AM
> To: team3s@stealth-3000gt.st; gemohler@www.speedtoys.com
> Subject: Re: Team3S: [Admin]: Back..
>
>
> Geoff,
>
> Try BRE in San Jose. I don't have their number, but they are in the
book. I have
> heard good things about them. They have done a lot of European
imoprts, and a
> couple DSM's/3S cars.
>
> Anyway, good luck, and let me know where you take the car!
>
> Dan Jett
> 94 Stealth TT
>
>
> >>> Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com> - 6/20/00 10:10 PM >>>
>
> Can anyone suggest a building in the SF Bay area?  I dont have the
> gumption to pull this myself and put it back..and would rather give it
to
> someone now..discuss what I want, and go write a check and take it
back in
> 3-4 months when its done.
>
> Any references in CA would be great.
>
> I would like a sustainable 20psi motor, and suggestions for a monster
> radiator would be handy.




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Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 10:04:25 -0700
From: Ken Middaugh <Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: sport springs install info needed

> be trimmed and by how much?  The springs I'm going to install are the RS*R.
> Is there anything else I should be aware of before attempting this project
> this weekend?  Any and all advice is appreciated.

Below is an old post that should help you out.  Have fun!


- -------- Original Message --------
Subject: Team3S: Changing struts, was: GAB Sport strut prices
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 1999 11:23:12 -0800
From: Ken Middaugh <middaugh@omega.gat.com>
Reply-To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
Organization: General Atomics - Fusion Division
To: stealth-3000gt@list.sirius.com
References: <3.0.32.19990330082735.012e7374@dmv.com> <3700D428.EEEC64FD@ibm.net>


> Is changing the struts something someone with average hand tools can do
> at home?

I recently changed my struts and springs myself.  I used the
instructions from the posts below.  I was planning on rewritting the
instructions for the do-it-yourselfer but haven't gotten around to it
yet.  However, here are a few pointers.

Note the position of the front camber adjustment bolts before you loosen
them.

I removed the front assemblies, then took them to a local tire shop
(with a spring compressor) to swap the hardware.  It cost $40.  You
could rent a spring compressor and do it yourself but this is very
dangerous! 

For the rear struts top mount, I used a small pipe wrench to hold the
large washer with 'flats', then used a wrench to turn the nut.  If you
use a wrench to hold the strut shaft instead of the large washer, you
will bung up the threads on the ECS strut.

Note that the rear strut lower mount hole is flared, so put it on the
flared stud correctly.

When installing the rear top mount, pull the metal spacer (that fits on
the strut shaft) up so that it sits only halfway into the top rubber
bushing.  Then place the lower washer over spacer.  Next, place the top
washer and nut on.  The top washer will rest on the spacer while the
bottom washer will fit around the spacer.  Thus when you tighten the
nut, the spacer will be pushed all the way to the stop and you will
assured that the lower washer will be around the spacer instead of
offset and resting on the top of the spacer.

Good luck,
Ken

- ------- Included file from Henri Feusi -------------

     ATTENTION:
    
     You _DO_NOT_ need a spring compressor to replace the rear struts.
    
     You can replace the struts in about 30 minutes(15min a piece).
    
     I have done this twice(during intermission while watching a
Penguins
     Hockety Game), and it is extremely simple. 
    
     Do the following:
    
     1. Place a standard 2 ton hydraulic shop jack(the one with the long
     handle) directly under the lower arm on your rear end of your
     suspension - make sure it is a solid point.
    
     2. Jack the car up until the wheel is off the ground - you will
have
     to jack quite a bit since you are jacking the car up on the
     suspension, and the spring is compressing.
    
     *** IMPORTANT SAFETY TIP*** Place a jack stand raised to the proper
     level under the regular jack point on the car ****
    
     3. At this point, remove the wheel(you might want to crack the lugs
on
     the ground before jacking if you don't have an air impact wrench).
    
     4. Now, from inside the car, remove the strut covers in the trunk
     located under the roll-up tarp. 
    
     5. Remove the rubber dust cup, tehn unplug the wiring harnes from
the
     strut.
    
     6. Loosen the BIG nut on the strut - you may require two wrenches
to
     do this, one to keep the center from rotating, and one to do the
work.
     Do  this slowly just to be safe(if you did not compress the spring
     enough, you may experience  a surprise :)-  completely remove the
nut.
    
    
     7. Go back under the car, and remove the bolt holding the strut in
     place. Once removed, you may require a bit of prying effor to get
the
     strut to slide off the lower mount.
    
     8. Once the strut is off the lower mount, you'r done! Slide it out
and
     you are ready to put the new one in.
    
    
    
     OPTIONAL - but cool looking.
    
     ** If you wish to check/paint your springs(Yellow is always nice),
     this is a good time to lower the jack slowly(leave the jack stand
in
     place). The spring will decompress and you can simply remove that
as
     well.***
    
    
     Installation is reversal of removal.
    
    
     NOTES:
    
     Mitsubishi replaced their struts after 92 with a "one size fits
all"
     model.  There is a TSB on this, and and easy fix. The 91(92
     too?)'VR4's had a small spacer installed under the retaining nut,
this
     was removed on later models because the strut is just a little
     shorter. You cannot buy the older struts anymore, so you are stuck
     with the shorter ones. - This is not a problem, just discard the
     spacer and you'll be OK.
    
     While you are at it, I recommend purchasing new Rubber stops -
these
     get worn pretty bad, and if they are torn, they are no good.
Should
     be small $$ at a mitsu dealer.
    
    
     I can provide picture of the strut installtion if anyone requires
     them.
    
     It's a SIMPLE and SAFE procedure.
    
     H.

- ---------------- Included file from Jose ----------------

Henry,

First of all, thanks for the post about the rear struts.

Now, for the front ECS struts:

1) loosen lug nuts, raise front and put on jack stands (for safety),
remove
wheel.

2) Open your hood, remove the 3 nuts on the strut assembly, remove the
rubber
dust cover.  Now you'll see the ECS electrical connector.  Just pull it
straight
out, do not rotate.

3) Now for the bottom part, using a breaker bar or something similar (I
used a
1/2" socket wrench with a 4 ft long tube attached to it for more
torque!!!)
remove the two nuts that attach the struts to the brake assembly. Use a
lot of
WD-40 and let it soak for about 15 min.

4) To remove the bolts just tap them out with a hammer. NOTE: Before you
tap
this bolts out, remove all the brackets that attach the brake lines to
the strut
assembly.

5) Now you should be able to move back and forth the strut assembly
until it
comes out of the brake assembly.

With the proper breaker bar (4 ft long in my case!  :) ) it took me
about 40
minutes to remove the first one, and about 10 to 15 min for the second
one
because I already knew how to do it.

Good luck!

- -Jose

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Ken Middaugh (858) 455-4510
General Atomics
San Diego

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