team3s              Sunday, June 4 2000              Volume 01 : Number 159




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Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 16:17:19 -0700
From: "Chris Maxwell" <shmacker@home.com>
Subject: Team3S: 94 brakes on a 92?

If I wanted to upgrade both my front and rear brakes on my 92 Twin Turbo to
the brakes from a 94+ turbo, is it a direct replacement or do i need to
switch some other things?

Thanks,
Chris
92 TT


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Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 00:58:01 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: Questions

> Ken,

No it's Roger :)

> Okay, I clear on regapping the plugs, and NGK's gapped to.034 are being
> installed as we speak right now.

Good !

> However I am unclear as to how the ApexiSuper AFC Fuel Controller cuts
fuel,
> when it gives you the ability to adjust fuel mapping.  Enlighten me.

The fuel map is not adjusted as the ECU stays as it is. The AFC "only"
alters the MAS signal to the ECU and causes it to think that there is
another air flow. But we all know that our fuel system is already mexxed out
at 1.00 bars so the AFC can only lean it out. The result will be detonation
and knock. Therefore one will increase the fuel delivered with the help of
the AFC (what is only rpm related and not engine load !!!) but this results
in fuel cut as the desired fuel value is not o nthe map anymore and the ECU
htinks that there is something wrong. The AFC only helps if you go to the
450cc DSM injectors.

Roger
93'3000GT TT



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Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 01:02:13 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: AMS 13G turbo upgrade

> Oil lines, eh?  I've got 90k mi on my '94 VR-4.  Do you think I should
> do that just as a simple precautionary measure... Hmmm, of course
> if my turbos do go that's just another reason to replace them with
> larger ones :)

No, it's not necessary. Not the oil feeding lines nor the return lines must
be replaced. It may help that you do a good engine flush as this may free up
any glogged lines. We have only reports for users who had problems with the
oil lines after a lot dirt or cooked oil in the lines (shutting down the
engien immediatly after hard driving, a big nono). Finally, nothing to worry
about.

> > I would absolutely replace the oil lines. I had to replace both turbos
due
> > to oil starvation because the previous owners just shut the car off
without
> > allowing the engine to idle to cool the turbos. As a result, oil coked
up
> > the oil feed lines (they have a fairly small inside diameter) thus
starving
> > the turbos of oil.

Yes, but even then an engine flush helps to free them up again. But the oil
lines are easy to be changed anyways when the turbos are already off.

Roger
93'3000GT TT



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Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 20:26:16 -0400
From: Denny Maderi <dmaderi@iname.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Not the bearing?!?

Have you checked for play with the inner and outer tie rods??? Those can
cause shimmying when driving. Also make sure if the outer tie rod end is
greasalbe that it has plenty of grease in it. Good Luck.

Deano

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Mitsukid99@aol.com
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 6:15 PM
To: team3s@www.speedtoys.com
Subject: Team3S: Not the bearing?!?


Just replaced the front driver bearing and the tire still wobbles, which

equals shimmy when driving.. What else could it be?!?!

Ant

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Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 19:25:51 -0700
From: "Jim Berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Not the bearing?!?

It might be a damaged rim ---- have you checked the runout on the rim ????


        Jim Berry
==========================================================

> Have you checked for play with the inner and outer tie rods??? Those can
> cause shimmying when driving. Also make sure if the outer tie rod end is
> greasalbe that it has plenty of grease in it. Good Luck.
>
> Deano
>
> >
> Just replaced the front driver bearing and the tire still wobbles, which
>
> equals shimmy when driving.. What else could it be?!?!
>



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Date: Sat, 3 Jun 2000 21:35:06 -0500
From: "Brad Bedell" <bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: 94 brakes on a 92?

With consideration of the Rotors, calipers, dust shields, and wheels it is a
direct replacement.

You will need to upgrade the wheels and either replace or cut the dust
shields to make them fit your 92.


Brad
Check out my home page:  http://home.austin.rr.com/overboost/
E-Mail: bbedell@austin.rr.com ICQ#  3612682

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Chris Maxwell
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 6:17 PM
To: team3s@mail.stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: Team3S: 94 brakes on a 92?

If I wanted to upgrade both my front and rear brakes on my 92 Twin Turbo to
the brakes from a 94+ turbo, is it a direct replacement or do i need to
switch some other things?

Thanks,
Chris
92 TT


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Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 09:17:29 -0400
From: "Jack Powell" <jpowe13@attglobal.net>
Subject: Fw: Team3S: Re: Questions

Sorry, sent to wrong email address


- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Jack Powell" <jpowe13@attglobal.net>
To: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Sent: 04 June, 2000 9:02 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: Questions


> Sorry Roger.  If what you say is true, then why would a Fuel Cut Defensor
> not prevent that cut?
>
> Jack
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
> To: <Team3S@www.speedtoys.com>
> Sent: 03 June, 2000 6:58 PM
> Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: Questions
>
>
> > > Ken,
> >
> > No it's Roger :)
> >
> > > Okay, I clear on regapping the plugs, and NGK's gapped to.034 are
being
> > > installed as we speak right now.
> >
> > Good !
> >
> > > However I am unclear as to how the ApexiSuper AFC Fuel Controller cuts
> > fuel,
> > > when it gives you the ability to adjust fuel mapping.  Enlighten me.
> >
> > The fuel map is not adjusted as the ECU stays as it is. The AFC "only"
> > alters the MAS signal to the ECU and causes it to think that there is
> > another air flow. But we all know that our fuel system is already mexxed
> out
> > at 1.00 bars so the AFC can only lean it out. The result will be
> detonation
> > and knock. Therefore one will increase the fuel delivered with the help
of
> > the AFC (what is only rpm related and not engine load !!!) but this
> results
> > in fuel cut as the desired fuel value is not o nthe map anymore and the
> ECU
> > htinks that there is something wrong. The AFC only helps if you go to
the
> > 450cc DSM injectors.
> >
> > Roger
> > 93'3000GT TT
> >
> >
> >
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> >
>


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Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 10:05:09 -0400
From: Mark <pagan@siscom.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: 94 brakes on a 92?

Incidentally has anyone done this?  rotors, calipers, and dust shields from
a second gen can be had for about 400-500 bux and I have been thinking
about it as a small brake upgrade to my '93 but wondered if anyone has
already done this mod and could comment on the results.

Mark
'93 R/T TT

At 09:35 PM 6/3/00 -0500, Brad Bedell wrote:
>With consideration of the Rotors, calipers, dust shields, and wheels it is a
>direct replacement.
>
>You will need to upgrade the wheels and either replace or cut the dust
>shields to make them fit your 92.
>
>
>Brad
>Check out my home page:  http://home.austin.rr.com/overboost/
>E-Mail: bbedell@austin.rr.com ICQ#  3612682
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
>[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Chris Maxwell
>Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 6:17 PM
>To: team3s@mail.stealth-3000gt.st
>Subject: Team3S: 94 brakes on a 92?
>
>If I wanted to upgrade both my front and rear brakes on my 92 Twin Turbo to
>the brakes from a 94+ turbo, is it a direct replacement or do i need to
>switch some other things?
>
>Thanks,
>Chris
>92 TT
>
>
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>
>
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Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 10:29:08 EDT
From: DOWNDRIVEN1@cs.com
Subject: Team3S: AVC-R

I finally got my APEXi AVC-R working right. But why cant I get First gear to
reach 1.00. I have the start duty set at 50% in first gear. My boost is set
to 1.00 and 65% Duty. Feed Back is 97533. If I am lucky 1st will reach .80
kg/cm2. thank you Alex

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Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 10:46:53 -0700
From: "Sam Shelat" <sshelat@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Apexi avc-r

If its overboosting, you need to turn you duty cycle down a bit.  Your rpms
should read the same as the dash (mine do)  Unless you hooked up to the
inject wire instead of rpm wire on the ECU.  Also start the feedback on 5
across the board first.   It will overshoot mostly becuase the duty cycle is
too high in a gear.  It will make the car feel slower, but you have to do it
to protect your motor.  Then start fooling with the start duty cycle.
Especially first gear makes a difference.  Start out at 10%+ and then adjust
the duty cycle again if it overboosts.  The problem is that if you have
learn on, it will screw with these settings after a couple days of hard
driving (but you are not getting the right rpm signal, so its not learning).
You have to first determine if all the wires are hooked right!  I used the
manual not their diagram, because it was not 100% right.  The two gens have
different connectors and even when using the right connector, the points
they said to hook it to was different for my 95.

Good Luck
Sam 95 VR-4
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From: DOWNDRIVEN1@cs.com <DOWNDRIVEN1@cs.com>
To: team3s@stealth-3000gt.st <team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Date: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 7:06 PM
Subject: Team3S: Apexi avc-r


>I need help with my AVC-R. I cant get it set up right. Why don't the RPM's
>read the same numbers as my tach i.e. 3000 rpm's reads 500. I just don't
get
>it. I have not been able to get it to "learn" anything. Can someone please
>explain some of it's functions the manual is no help. What does F/B do,
start
>duty do. Can any one offer me any good setup programs that are working good
>for them. My car does fine in first gear it boosts to 1.0kg/cm2 but in
second
>gear it jumps to 1.13 kg/cm2 and in third it goes to 1.18 kg/cm2. I can get
>stable boost it keeps over boosting.
>                                    thank you very much Alex
>                                    stock except K&N FIPK
>
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Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 10:48:08 -0500
From: "Brad Bedell" <bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: 94 brakes on a 92?

I've done the rear upgrade.  I just cut the dust shield back as far as I
could (to allow maximum cooling)

I've done the front upgrade, but had to take them off due to a wheel
clearance problem (on a 92 Stealth)

Brad
Check out my home page:  http://home.austin.rr.com/overboost/
E-Mail: bbedell@austin.rr.com ICQ#  3612682

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Mark
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 9:05 AM
To: team3s@mail.stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: RE: Team3S: 94 brakes on a 92?

Incidentally has anyone done this?  rotors, calipers, and dust shields from
a second gen can be had for about 400-500 bux and I have been thinking
about it as a small brake upgrade to my '93 but wondered if anyone has
already done this mod and could comment on the results.

Mark
'93 R/T TT

At 09:35 PM 6/3/00 -0500, Brad Bedell wrote:
>With consideration of the Rotors, calipers, dust shields, and wheels it is
a
>direct replacement.
>
>You will need to upgrade the wheels and either replace or cut the dust
>shields to make them fit your 92.
>
>
>Brad
>Check out my home page:  http://home.austin.rr.com/overboost/
>E-Mail: bbedell@austin.rr.com ICQ#  3612682
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
>[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Chris Maxwell
>Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 6:17 PM
>To: team3s@mail.stealth-3000gt.st
>Subject: Team3S: 94 brakes on a 92?
>
>If I wanted to upgrade both my front and rear brakes on my 92 Twin Turbo to
>the brakes from a 94+ turbo, is it a direct replacement or do i need to
>switch some other things?
>
>Thanks,
>Chris
>92 TT
>
>
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>
>
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Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 12:55:03 -0400
From: Danno <palermod@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: Team3S: Used Yokos

I'm looking for a pair of used Yokos, 245-18 inch.  Don't need tons of
tread, but would like >5000 miles left.

E-mail me privately if you've got a pair (or a set of 4) you're looking
to get rid of at a reasonable price.

Thanks.

- - Dan
'95 Black VR4




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Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 13:03:34 EDT
From: Mitsukid99@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Not the bearing?!?

It's not just during driving.  When I raise the car, grab the wheel and shake
it--there is some play.  That is typical of bearing problems but I changed it
out and it is still there.  I am beginning to believe it might be the
wheel/lugs(perhaps a gap between wheel/lug).  I am going to rotate wheels and
see if anything changes.

Ant

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Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 18:42:34 EDT
From: AABOMB1@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Easy question

Hi, I just have a real easy question for anyone who knows:

Does a '91 VR-4 have a 5-speed or a 6-speed tranny?

Thanks



AA

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Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 17:47:02 -0500
From: "cody" <overclck@flash.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Easy question

5 Forward gears, plus reverse is standard

- -Cody

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#Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2000 5:43 PM
#To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
#Subject: Team3S: Easy question
#
#
#Hi, I just have a real easy question for anyone who knows:
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#Does a '91 VR-4 have a 5-speed or a 6-speed tranny?
#
#Thanks
#
#
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Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 23:05:19 EDT
From: Playenfun@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Hi, i have a problem with the clutch, can anyone please help?

    Hi My name is Christian, I have a 92 3000GT.  I am having a problem with
the clutch, all of the sudden it had no pressure, and I am having a hard
timing shifting into reverse, and even 1st gear now.  I checked the clutch
fluid and it was pretty empty, I added more, but it still the same.  It seems
as if the clutch needs to be re-adjusted or something, does anyone have any
ideas? Any tips would be greatly appreciated, thank you.

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