team3s             Thursday, June 1 2000             Volume 01 : Number 156




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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 19:23:16 -0700
From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: 6-speed transmission in 1st Gen?

This was just discussed a few messages back, but here it is anyway.

You'll need at least:

- - new shift linkage, possibly new shifter but older one *may* work (I know
the throw is different)
- - new or modifed drive shaft
- - new transfer case
- - new rear differential

In short, pretty much everything from the transmission on back.

Brad Bedell has done this.


Barry

> -----Original Message-----
>
> Will a 6-speed transmission work on a 91 VR4?
> I know that to convert to a 6 speed transmission that I would
> also have to get a newer tranfer case but I don't know if the
> shifter will work, or if there is any other incompatabilities?
>
> Anyone done this conversion?
>
> The reason I ask is because there is a new 6-speed for sale on
> e-bay the bid is currently $800 and the reserve has not been met yet.
>
> John Monnin
> jkmonnin@altavista.com
> 91 VR4


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Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 22:21:03 -0700
From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Re: head porting advice

Just for kicks, give him these numbers and see what he says.

These are the "before" measurements from my 1994 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR4:

Valve Intake Exhaust
lift
0.100" 86 80
0.200" 165 164
0.300" 230 191
0.400" 246 195
0.500" 249 196
0.600" 251 196

In the American engine world, these are very impressive numbers.


Barry

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
> [mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of John Monnin
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 4:22 PM
> To: team3s-digest@mail.stealth-3000gt.st
> Subject: Team3S: Re: head porting advice
>
>
> Thanks for the head porting advice given by Barry E. King,  I
> needed this aadvice to resist the temptation to mess up my heads.
>  Joe Mondello is the head expert on oldsmobile engines and he
> gave almost the exact same advice for all out performance on my
> 69 Olds, but he had a few tricks for the shadetree mechanic:
> teardropping the casting around valve stems, smoothing the radius
> directly around the valves,raising the roof of the port slightly
> and never porting the floor except to smooth radius near valves.
>
> After reading Barry E. King's email I looked at my heads closer
> today and noticed that none of these basic tips applied.  The
> stock heads already have excellent shape in all of the areas mentioned.
>
> John K Monnin
> 91 VR4 (in all 3 stalls of my gargage)
> jkmonnin@altavista.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>  Original meassage below
>
> From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
> Subject: RE: Team3S: Porting Heads
>
> Definitely have them done by someone who is very
> knowledgeable/experienced
> and uses a flow bench. The intuitive V8 tricks do not work
> properly on the
> stock already awesome flowing heads.  Polishing does zip, BTW, as
> was proven
> to me on two separate flow benches.  It makes sense since you
> want a certain
> amount of turbulence in the intake charge and mirror-polishing
> the exhaust
> side does nothing but lighten the pocket book and make unseen
> engine parts
> look pretty.  Most often seen on Honduh err Honda that are
> slammed, bassin',
> and have nothing except a 6" tip and a bottle of N20 and zero
> traction.  But
> I digress.   What little benfit may be seen on some heads will not make a
> statistically significant measurable difference in HP or drivability.
>
> The stock heads flow better than most tricked out V8 heads and to squeeze
> much more out of them you may (will) sacrifice in other areas.
> However,
> enormous flow can be had from these heads.  Backed up with big
> blowers and a
> few more cubes and you're easily into extreme HP range.  Cams are
> needed but
> so far noone seems to have any that overall actually work better
> than stock,
> and going with higher lift (required for the next stage) is difficult and
> very expensive due to the head design.
>
> Mine were done by a company in Phoenix that specializes in fast Mustangs.
> The guy had never done 6G72 heads but had done a few Hondas.  He
> was blown
> away at how well they performed on the flow bench right off the
> engine.  He
> managed to get a peak increase of 18% peak and 10-15% (min-max)
> across the
> usable cam lift range. Low lift actually suffered a very
> small amount but
> this should not matter too much as the added engine displacement
> (the block
> was bored out and fitted with larger pistons) will more than make
> up for any
> loss of torque.
>
> Anyway, you can expect a fairly good boost but it may be
> expensive depending
> upon how far you go with it.  While it is apart, the valves
> should replaced
> as required and balanced, guides inspected and brought back to
> spec, and a
> nice radiused grind on the seats.  The Extrude hone process can
> be applied
> to the intake plenum for an added bit of flow.
>
>  Barry
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 04:52:35 EDT
From: Screemo@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Ocean City, Tuner Shop

I'm going on vacation the third week of July to Ocean City, MD. I had a
couple of questions. I plan on adding a turbo timer, boost controller and
boost gauge to my car in the near future. I live in NY and the only problem
is that there is no reputable shop in my area to get these installed. I
figured since the Ocean City gatherings are such a success, someone on the
list might be able to recommend a shop in Ocean City I can look into when I'm
down there. All recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.


Bill in NY
94' VR-4

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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 11:28:33 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: FW:  Apex R Motorsports?

> Has anyone used Apex R Motorsports? Their web site is
http://www.apexvr4.com/ .
> They say they are focused on the VR-4/Stealth Market.

You must be lucky to get any response. Indra dosn't answer emails and some
months ago they had an internal problem. Inofficially I'd say they are out
of business (my experience)

Roger
93'3000GT TT



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Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 02:44:36 -0700
From: vect0r0 <vect0r0@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Team3S: OK now I'm desperate...............

I REALLY need the timing info for a 92 rt/tt.  I have a mechanicc coming
today..  I need TIMING informatioon.  please help.....


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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 08:51:20 -0500
From: "Basol, John" <jbasol@Carlson.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Re: head porting advice

Barry,
Are those numbers CFM airflow through the ports!?!

Anyone know what the stock cam profile for our engines is?  Does anyone
offer any other profiles?

John Basol
'95 RT/TT



-----Original Message-----
From: Barry E. King [SMTP:beking@home.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 12:21 AM
To: team3s-digest@mail.stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: RE: Team3S: Re: head porting advice

Just for kicks, give him these numbers and see what he says.

These are the "before" measurements from my 1994 Mitsubishi 3000GT
VR4:

Valve Intake Exhaust
lift
0.100" 86 80
0.200" 165 164
0.300" 230 191
0.400" 246 195
0.500" 249 196
0.600" 251 196

In the American engine world, these are very impressive numbers.


Barry



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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 08:35:22 -0700
From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Re: head porting advice

Those are baseline cfm as measured on a flowbench before porting.

Stock cam info is in the service manual.  There may be a few profiles
available from small places but nothing in commodity or with anything that
backs them up.  The Bozz Speed cams (last I *heard*) didn't work and were
being redone.  Brian of GT Alley infamy allegedly had cams but he refused or
was unable to offer any details about them whatsoever.  Vapor-ware and
automobiles don't go well together.

New billets (if you had a profile to cut) will cost upwards of $3000 for the
first few.  You can have regrinds done for about $50 a stick if you know
what you want.


Barry


> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
> [mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Basol, John
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 6:51 AM
> To: team3s-digest@mail.stealth-3000gt.st
> Subject: RE: Team3S: Re: head porting advice
>
>
> Barry,
> Are those numbers CFM airflow through the ports!?!
>
> Anyone know what the stock cam profile for our engines is?  Does anyone
> offer any other profiles?
>
> John Basol
> '95 RT/TT
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barry E. King [SMTP:beking@home.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 12:21 AM
> To: team3s-digest@mail.stealth-3000gt.st
> Subject: RE: Team3S: Re: head porting advice
>
> Just for kicks, give him these numbers and see what he says.
>
> These are the "before" measurements from my 1994 Mitsubishi 3000GT
> VR4:
>
> Valve Intake Exhaust
> lift
> 0.100" 86 80
> 0.200" 165 164
> 0.300" 230 191
> 0.400" 246 195
> 0.500" 249 196
> 0.600" 251 196
>
> In the American engine world, these are very impressive numbers.
>
>
> Barry
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 11:57:10 EDT
From: Aso8@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: HKS Super Mega Flow 4 sale

More info on this item as follows due to confusion:

In order to use this model you need to buy or intend to use the HKS VPC.
This is not the modified version of the Mega Flow that you added onto later
as you made more upgrades.
This was specifically designed to use knowing in advance that you were a
speed freak and going all the way to the VPC with no compromises :) Every
once of flow has been designed into this intake knowing the Mas-Air Unit is
removed for the VPC.
When you really need it, I have it available. HKS actually makes 3 models.
This is the Maximum Model.


 > I'm selling my "Top of the Line" HKS Duel Super Mega Flow Intake.
 > Mine has been Fully Chromed (an expensive option) and I have both
 > (2) Brand New Green Mushroom Intakes for it still in the package.
 > Like new - $235.00 with shipping.
 > Please, Email me direct at   aso8@aol.com
 > Arty 91 VR-4
 >

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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 14:46:14 EDT
From: Klusmanp@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Who makes spline shaft for tranny/transfer case?

Having some clutch work on my '91 VR4 and the mechanic notices some wear on
the spline shaft coming out of the transaxle and into the transfer case. Not
too bad just yet, but there is some fine rust-colored powder and you can see
a bit of wear on the faces of the spline teeth.

This is really disappointing as the tranny and x-fer case were replaced under
warranty about 3 yr (30k mi?) ago. It has the bigger shaft (25 or 26 tooth -
I forget what I counted), stock engine, and I never do drop-clutch starts.

I already know Mitsubishi (Getrag) will not supply these parts for a rebuild.
Is there someone (Kormex) who makes aftermarket shafts?

Thanks,
Paul Klusman

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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 13:30:55 -0400
From: "Manoj Prasad" <mprasad@uswest.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Who makes spline shaft for tranny/transfer case?

The rust color is normal.  It is actually clutch dust.  When my warranty
company saw it the first time they said it was rust and that they would not
cover it.  Then we found out that it was clutch dust and the shaft was
covered.

FYI- the shaft is the same size but the number of teeth are 25 compared to
the 18 on the newer model.  The 18 teeth give it more strength.

This was the exact problem with my 92 VR4.  The shaft was around $600.00 or
$700.  If you call Cottman Transmission in Northglenn and ask for Glenn, he
might be able to tell you where to get it.  He sometimes likes to keep his
sources to himself.

His phone number is 303-451-8900. He knows my car so mention it when you
speak to him.  I have a 92 Red VR4.

Rgds
Moe
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Klusmanp@aol.com
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 2:46 PM
To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: Team3S: Who makes spline shaft for tranny/transfer case?


Having some clutch work on my '91 VR4 and the mechanic notices some wear on
the spline shaft coming out of the transaxle and into the transfer case. Not
too bad just yet, but there is some fine rust-colored powder and you can see
a bit of wear on the faces of the spline teeth.

This is really disappointing as the tranny and x-fer case were replaced
under
warranty about 3 yr (30k mi?) ago. It has the bigger shaft (25 or 26 tooth -
I forget what I counted), stock engine, and I never do drop-clutch starts.

I already know Mitsubishi (Getrag) will not supply these parts for a
rebuild.
Is there someone (Kormex) who makes aftermarket shafts?

Thanks,
Paul Klusman

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Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 13:16:53 -0700
From: Ken Middaugh <Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Who makes spline shaft for tranny/transfer case?

The best sources for some GETRAG tranny parts are:

MD Auto, 619-390-0450 (but their prefix may have changed to 858 or 760), San
Diego
Kormex, 800-429-5464, LA area
NYMaxxNY@aol.com (from the starnet list) also might have parts if he is still
around.

Good luck,
Ken

> Having some clutch work on my '91 VR4 and the mechanic notices some wear on
> the spline shaft coming out of the transaxle and into the transfer case. Not
> too bad just yet, but there is some fine rust-colored powder and you can see
> a bit of wear on the faces of the spline teeth.
>
> This is really disappointing as the tranny and x-fer case were replaced under
> warranty about 3 yr (30k mi?) ago. It has the bigger shaft (25 or 26 tooth -
> I forget what I counted), stock engine, and I never do drop-clutch starts.
>
> I already know Mitsubishi (Getrag) will not supply these parts for a rebuild.
> Is there someone (Kormex) who makes aftermarket shafts?

- --
Forget world peace -- visualize using your turn signal!

Ken Middaugh (858) 455-4510
General Atomics
San Diego

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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 16:34:03 -0400
From: "WALTER D. BEST" <WDBO39@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Ocean City, Tuner Shop

Well, Mike at Altered Atmosphere is not too far from O.C.  He's in
Gaithersburg MD, just north of Rockville MD, this is his web site
http://www.alteredatmosphere.com/  He very familiar with 3000/Stealth's and
I have found him to be very trust worthy.  I think he'd do you a very good
job for you.

There is also Extreme Motorsports in Jessup MD, but I have heard some; not
too good things about them, they are mostly Eclipse people there, but their
web site is: http://www.extrememotorsports.com/

If there are any closer to O.C. I don't know of them

Hope this helps,

Dave Best
 3Si #62
http://ifrag.ncsa.uiuc.edu/best/


- ----- Original Message -----
From: <Screemo@aol.com>
To: <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 4:52 AM
Subject: Team3S: Ocean City, Tuner Shop


> I'm going on vacation the third week of July to Ocean City, MD. I had a
> couple of questions. I plan on adding a turbo timer, boost controller and
> boost gauge to my car in the near future. I live in NY and the only
problem
> is that there is no reputable shop in my area to get these installed. I
> figured since the Ocean City gatherings are such a success, someone on the
> list might be able to recommend a shop in Ocean City I can look into when
I'm
> down there. All recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
>
>
> Bill in NY
> 94' VR-4
>
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Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 15:42:41 CDT
From: "Mark Wendlandt" <stealth_tt@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Who makes spline shaft for tranny/transfer case?

Sorry Moe, but I don't want mis-information to get out there.

Sometime in '93 I believe, they "upgraded" the output shaft to a larger
shaft (25 splines) and have used it through '99.  The earlier output shafts
were smaller diameter and had less splines (18).  You can no longer get new
trannys with small output shafts. So, if you need a new tranny but your xfer
case is ok, you will still have to replace both.  Unless, you can get a good
used or "rebuilt" tranny.

The reason that I say "upgraded" is that some have said that with the
smaller splines on the larger shaft, they tend to strip easier.

Mark Wendlandt
'91RT/TT(small output shaft...ah hem....small TRANNY output shaft)


>From: "Manoj Prasad" <mprasad@uswest.net>
>To: <Klusmanp@aol.com>, <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
>Subject: RE: Team3S: Who makes spline shaft for tranny/transfer case?
>Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 13:30:55 -0400
>
>The rust color is normal.  It is actually clutch dust.  When my warranty
>company saw it the first time they said it was rust and that they would not
>cover it.  Then we found out that it was clutch dust and the shaft was
>covered.
>
>FYI- the shaft is the same size but the number of teeth are 25 compared to
>the 18 on the newer model.  The 18 teeth give it more strength.
>
>This was the exact problem with my 92 VR4.  The shaft was around $600.00 or
>$700.  If you call Cottman Transmission in Northglenn and ask for Glenn, he
>might be able to tell you where to get it.  He sometimes likes to keep his
>sources to himself.
>
>His phone number is 303-451-8900. He knows my car so mention it when you
>speak to him.  I have a 92 Red VR4.
>
>Rgds
>Moe
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
>[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Klusmanp@aol.com
>Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 2:46 PM
>To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
>Subject: Team3S: Who makes spline shaft for tranny/transfer case?
>
>
>Having some clutch work on my '91 VR4 and the mechanic notices some wear on
>the spline shaft coming out of the transaxle and into the transfer case.
>Not
>too bad just yet, but there is some fine rust-colored powder and you can
>see
>a bit of wear on the faces of the spline teeth.
>
>This is really disappointing as the tranny and x-fer case were replaced
>under
>warranty about 3 yr (30k mi?) ago. It has the bigger shaft (25 or 26 tooth
>-
>I forget what I counted), stock engine, and I never do drop-clutch starts.
>
>I already know Mitsubishi (Getrag) will not supply these parts for a
>rebuild.
>Is there someone (Kormex) who makes aftermarket shafts?
>
>Thanks,
>Paul Klusman
>
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>
>
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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 17:17:50 -0400
From: "WALTER D. BEST" <WDBO39@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Who makes spline shaft for tranny/transfer case?

Thank goodness I haven't had any problems with my transmission or transfer
case but I recall reading some where, it may have been here, that a spline
shaft from a Ford Range PU would work.  Does anyone recall seeing this or
know anything about it?

I thought it needed a little re-working, maybe cut down a bit but the
general consensus was that it would work better and be stronger.  If this is
true you maybe able to try something like that and save some big bucks.

Just a though,

Dave Best
 3Si #62
http://ifrag.ncsa.uiuc.edu/best/

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Ken Middaugh <Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
To: <Klusmanp@aol.com>
Cc: <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Who makes spline shaft for tranny/transfer case?


> The best sources for some GETRAG tranny parts are:
>
> MD Auto, 619-390-0450 (but their prefix may have changed to 858 or 760),
San
> Diego
> Kormex, 800-429-5464, LA area
> NYMaxxNY@aol.com (from the starnet list) also might have parts if he is
still
> around.
>
> Good luck,
> Ken
>
> > Having some clutch work on my '91 VR4 and the mechanic notices some wear
on
> > the spline shaft coming out of the transaxle and into the transfer case.
Not
> > too bad just yet, but there is some fine rust-colored powder and you can
see
> > a bit of wear on the faces of the spline teeth.
> >
> > This is really disappointing as the tranny and x-fer case were replaced
under
> > warranty about 3 yr (30k mi?) ago. It has the bigger shaft (25 or 26
tooth -
> > I forget what I counted), stock engine, and I never do drop-clutch
starts.
> >
> > I already know Mitsubishi (Getrag) will not supply these parts for a
rebuild.
> > Is there someone (Kormex) who makes aftermarket shafts?
>
> --
> Forget world peace -- visualize using your turn signal!
>
> Ken Middaugh (858) 455-4510
> General Atomics
> San Diego
>
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Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 18:12:13 -0400
From: Joe Gonsowski <twinturbo@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Who makes spline shaft for tranny/transfer case?

Klusmanp@aol.com wrote:

> Having some clutch work on my '91 VR4 and the mechanic notices some wear on
> the spline shaft coming out of the transaxle and into the transfer case. Not
> too bad just yet, but there is some fine rust-colored powder and you can see
> a bit of wear on the faces of the spline teeth.

Sounds normal to me, I would expect to see wear after 30k miles.  If wear is
excessive, you may want to replace the shaft.  The Kormex upgrade supposedly uses
a higher hardness material but they would not tell me specifics (I do believe it
is superior to a stock unit, several have upgraded to it without subsequent
problems).  I do know they come from Italy.  It is also recommended that you
replace the coupler (female spline in the transfer case) whenever replacing the
shaft (if one is worn, the other is probably just as bad) .  You must also make
sure you get the correct coupler for your shaft, for instance, there are two
different O.D. (outside diameter) couplers that mate with the 18 spline shaft.
Installing the coupler requires a press and it must be done carefully, not for
the first timer.  Labor for the job can run just as much or more than parts.

I'm using Auto Sports Unlimited in Grand Rapids, MI for my work and it will cost
~$1,000 for a new shaft, coupler, and labor.  They can order some parts, have an
inventory of used parts, and a helpful crew of guys working there.  Kurt is very
familiar with our cars.  Call 616-772-3876, ext. 18 (Kurt's extension).

> This is really disappointing as the tranny and x-fer case were replaced under
> warranty about 3 yr (30k mi?) ago. It has the bigger shaft (25 or 26 tooth -
> I forget what I counted), stock engine, and I never do drop-clutch starts.

I've also heard as someone already stated that the 25 spline doesn't hold-up as
well as the 18 spline.  But not all 18 spline 5 speeds are equal, so buyer
beware.

Slo Joe
'92 R/T TT



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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 18:56:46 -0700 (PDT)
From: Matt Wise <diranged@south-park.cc>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Starting troubles...

Ive had this happen on super hot days..

On Wed, 31 May 2000, Ken Middaugh wrote:

> I have been experiencing this too for over a year.  I have replaced the battery,
> battery cable post clamps, starter, starter relay, and alarm start-disable
> relay.  I believe the clutch switch is fine since when I hold the key on, every
> time I press the clutch I hear solenoids click.  My cables look fine with no
> corrosion.  I may try to clean the end that connects to the starter to see if
> that helps.  Perhaps the Mitsu rebuilt starter is the problem...
>
> Good luck,
> Ken
>
> >
> > All,
> > I'm experiencing starting problems.
> > 1) Clutch is fully engaged...pressed all the way to
> > the floor.
> > 2) Turn the key, hear the "click" but no turnover
> > from the ignition.
> > 3) If I leave key turned to on, pump clutch
> > repeatedly, eventually the car will start.
> >
> > Can someone explain what's going on and what I need to
> > do to get this fixed?  Is it an electrical problem?
> > Clutch adjustment?  Easy fix, or difficult problem?
> > Any help is appreciated..
>
>
> --
> Forget world peace -- visualize using your turn signal!
>
> Ken Middaugh (858) 455-4510
> General Atomics
> San Diego
>
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Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 22:02:30 -0400
From: Ken Stanton <ken.c.stanton@usa.net>
Subject: [Fwd: Team3S: FW:  Apex R Motorsports?]

I would avoid them at all costs - I bought a clutch, it took them
forever to get the order together, then trying to get it hear was a
nightmare.  They charged me $40 shipping then and when I called them to
get it resolved they never did - I ended up challenging the charge to my
Visa...
just my 2hp though!

Ken Stanton
'91 Pearl White RT/TT

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Subject: Team3S: FW:  Apex R Motorsports?
Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 19:02:26 -0700
From: Anissa.Mohler@netapp.com
To: team3s@stealth-3000gt.st

Hello all,

Has anyone used Apex R Motorsports? Their web site is
http://www.apexvr4.com/ .
They say they are focused on the VR-4/Stealth Market.

I'm looking to purchase a Greddy Profec A and Turbo Timer and so far
they have
the best price. I'm curious though, their site lists a Greddy Turbo
Timer with
wiring harness ... no other site (including Greddy's) lists a wiring
harness
specifically for the VR-4... is this something I should worry about?

So, I need to know, are they fast? and do they deliver what they
promise?
and Finally, which wiring harness should I get for my VR-4 if I buy a
greddy
turbo timer?

Thanks!

Nissa
95 VR-4
New water pump, new hood latch and new motor mount... what a week!

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Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 22:10:59 -0400
From: Ken Stanton <ken.c.stanton@usa.net>
Subject: Team3S: How does clutch (petal to disc) work?

Hello All

I've been having problems with my clutch engagement recently, after my
tranny/transfer was replaced, flywheel ground, and new clutch
installed.  Once, it even slipped out right to redline on a fair
launch...

Can anyone describe how the hydraulics/vacuum boost etc work?  I think
if I understand all this I can try to fix my probs...
Thanks!

Ken Stanton
'91 Pearl White RT/TT


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Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 21:28:43 -0500
From: "Brad Bedell" <bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject: Team3S: RPS clutches for sale

I have two RPS clutches for sale.  One is a dual friction with a carbon and
organic disk, the other is a full carbon.

Both pressure plates and disks are brand new.   I installed the carbon
clutch in the car about two months ago but have never even started the car

Reason for selling:   I ordered a twin disk clutch.

Make me an offer on these clutches.

Brad
Check out my home page:  http://home.austin.rr.com/overboost/
E-Mail: bbedell@austin.rr.com ICQ#  3612682




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