team3s              Sunday, May 21 2000              Volume 01 : Number 143




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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 23:30:13 -0700
From: Anissa.Mohler@netapp.com
Subject: Team3S: Fingers Crossed & Knock on Wood

By some miracle of orneriness (probably because the car overheard our talk of
torches and saws) the hood latch just started working again tonight. After
several nights of heartache and pounding (literally) on the thing. I don't know
if ANYTHING we did affected it, but I'm glad it started working.

So thanks to everyone for the information about hoods. We are going to take some
time to research a good carbon fibre hood for the VR-4. In the mean time we are
back on for racing (and passing tech!)

Nissa
95 VR-4 (POS jury out at the moment, lets see if she lasts 'til Thunderhill!)


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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 02:09:26 -0500
From: Matt Jannusch <MAJ@BigCharts.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Borla re-post

> Hi gang, just wanted to know if the Borla cat back exhaust is
> a dual system like stock or is it single. Thanks guys.

Borla is a dual system from after the main cat to the exhaust tips.  There is a muffler on each side of the car, and a single large tip on each of the two mufflers.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 07:32:20 -0700
From: jeff.mohler@netapp.com
Subject: RE: Team3S: Sway bars

I will have more info on a www page soon.

You will have to wait till then, to dig into the group buy.

..money up front will be required, just gotta decide how much..what addco has to
say..pricing..etc.

- -----Original Message-----
From: BHurvitz@aol.com [mailto:BHurvitz@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 6:27 PM
To: bbedell@austin.rr.com; gemohler@www.speedtoys.com;
Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com
Cc: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: Re: Team3S: Sway bars


I would also be interested in a sway bar group purchase. Are there any
differences inthe sway bars between the various year cars, or are they all
the same?

Bob 91TT

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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 10:51:16 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Sway bars

>I will have more info on a www page soon.
>>You will have to wait till then, to dig into the group buy.
>
I don't want to rain on anybody's parade, but I was able to get even
temperatures across my front tires without a sway bar -- just Eibachs and
camber plates. I'm not altogether sure how a sway bar can improve anything
beyond that. However, I am eager to learn: Just exactly what do you guys
expect to accomplish with these sway bars? I am with child in anticipation
of your answer.

My next expenditure will  be a set of GABs, cuz the Eibachs are taking out
my stock struts slowly but surely.

Rich/old poop/94 VR4




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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 13:28:58 EDT
From: AABOMB1@aol.com
Subject: RE: Team3S: oil leak...

>I don't change my oil. Too much trouble, too dirty, and I never know what
>to do with the old oil.
>Instead, I take it to my Mitsu dealer, and have them put in a Mitsu filter
>and Mobil 1.
>
>I'm glad you had a good experience. There are probably many more people out
>there who have had a bad experience with Jiffy Lube and the rest of that
>quick-change crowd -- everything from failing to replace the drain plug to
>putting a hole in the filter.
>
>Rich/old poop/94 VR4


You mentioned that you didn't know what to do with the used oil; just wanted
to let you know that Pep Boys and most auto stores will accept used oil and
they will recycle it. You can usually also find a place to pour used oil at
your local recycling center. You can also take other used fluids such as gear
oil to pep boys.

AA

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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 15:36:36 EDT
From: Mitsukid99@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: Front wheel bearing..

Anyone do this before(on a nonturbo, not the one piece setup of the turbo)?  
What tools and parts are necessary?  My front-driver bearing is shot and the
steering is sloppy and I can hear it chirp the tires on turns(bad bad).  I
dont have my manual available(josh.hmm) but does anyone have info on this or
can send me the manual pages?

Ant

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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 14:58:57 -0500
From: "Vineet Singh" <billi_gates@hotmail.com>
Subject: Team3S: RC Injectors

About that one unfortunate post regarding a messed up piston... You said you
used RC injectors? 2 or 3 of the vendors I have talked to, have told me to
stay away from the RC injectors, and just get the ND, or some other kind
(can't remember). The reason was crappy spray pattern, but I don't know
exactly why.

Sorry!

Vineet Singh


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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 14:56:18 -0500
From: "Vineet Singh" <billi_gates@hotmail.com>
Subject: Team3S: You guys/gals ROCK!

My 92 Stealth has been under the knife for about 4 days now. If you might
recall, I posted about having smoke (blue) between shifts and at high vacuum
conditions (-19+). It was QUITE irritating.

However, it seemed to also be quite expensive to fix, as most of the people
I talked to, told me it was valve guides and seals, since it didn't smoke
ALL the time. This was looking to be a 2000$ repair, and a hell of a lot of
work!

One person on our lists told me that he had dual exhausts (true). Well he
gave me the idea to figure out WHICH bank of the engine was culprit. X'ing
my fingers, I loosened up the little front precat and took it off, blocked
off the exhaust so the rear bank would exit normally, the front would be
right under the front of the car.

Viola! Big clouds of smoke from the FRONT of the car, meaning it was
isolated to the FRONT bank/turbo. Jack T, Roger, and some others I'm
forgetting to mention (I get too many emails a day!) all told me it sounds
more like turbo... well that's what I had ORIGINALLY thought, so I had
bought a good set from Roger earlier.

I ordered all the parts from Conicelli mitsubishi (Josh, he rocks, he also
has a 3000gt vr4 and Galant vr4, and great prices/service). They got here,
and started on the imposing task of removing/replacing belts (pulleys were
screeching), and the front turbo.

It's fairly straight forward, but you have to remove a ton of unneeded shi+
to get to it. I made the mistake of putting all back together last nite...
and turned around to find I forgot to re-install the oil dipstick tube...
LUCKILY I didn't have to take the radiator out, just the IC pipes and heat
sheilds for the manifold/turbo.

Today I am so happy, no smoke, much more performance (and I didn't even
touch the boost controller yet :), and overall quieter!

While I was in the area, I cleaned up ALL the parts that I took out or had
access to. Man, you can't imagine how much grime builds up on the BOTTOM of
your engine/accessories, if you SPILL OIL WHEN FILLING! It all drips down to
your manifold, alternator, AC, and lower cross members/pipes. Gross. Looks
good now.

The only thing major left is the stupid "creaking/jarring" when slow
down/brake, that is coming from the passenger front tire. I have no idea
what it is, but I don't think it's the CV, it's not ripped or anything.
Wheel bearing? Front differential (in our Vunderful Getrash tranny's)? For
fun, I'm going to check the damn lugnuts after this email.

Thanks to everyone that read my posts and mailed me suggestions. You guys
make this club great!

PS: I like the new 3si.org look!

Vineet Singh
Manuals On CD - http://manualcd.dsm.org
Club DSM A/T - http://at.dsm.org  -  "Never Lift To Shift!"

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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 18:47:45 -0400
From: Jason Barnhart <phnxgld@erols.com>
Subject: Team3S: Crankcase filter installation...

    I've located the hose that goes from the rear valve cover to the intake
after the MAS and the hose that connects the two valve covers.  Where do the
filters actually get installed?  I'm assuming that the hose from the rear valve
cover to the intake should be capped on the intake side and the filter installed
on the valve cover side, what about the front valve cover?  Pics would be
helpful.

Thanks,
Jason


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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 00:54:13 +0300
From: "Oleg-Telia" <Oleg@telia.lv>
Subject: Team3S: ARC-2

Hi all,

I'll instal ARC-2 with RC 550 inj next week. Turbos - stock 9B.
Unfortunetaly I don't have datalogger, and it is very difficult to tune
ARC-2. How do you think what "low","mid","high", and "accel" settings are
best for car with this setup?

Thanks

Oleg
94'VR4


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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 16:00:39 -0700
From: "Chris Maxwell" <shmacker@home.com>
Subject: Team3S: Removing the Tranny and block...

Ok, well, I'm installing a new engine over the course of the next couple
weeks and I've gotten to the place where the heads are off, but I need to
pull the block out of the car (somehow) and put in a new block that I got
from M & S.  The only thing is that I'm unsure about how to remove the
tranny.  I've heard I need a transmission jack.  How is that different from
a regular hydralic floor jack?  I've also noticed that the tranny has a flat
section on the bottom.  Is that were the jack would go, or is the center of
gravity somewhere else such that if I put a jack there, the tranny would
want to flop over.

Also, I was wondering if it is possible to remove the engine block from the
bottom.  I don't have an engine hoist, but I can rent one if I really need
it.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated as I've never attempted this.
The tranny and the block intimidate me because of their weight, so I'm a
little hesitant as to how to remove them and install them again safely.

Thanks again,
Chris Maxwell
92 R/T TT (soon to have a 94 engine block and GTPRO 355 turbos)


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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 16:57:27 -0700
From: jeff.mohler@netapp.com
Subject: RE: Team3S: Sway bars

Well, temps are a combination of a lot of things..most of which is alignment
settings and tire pressures.

Increased/decreased roll from sway bar additions will change that a little, but
again that will need to be adjusted with alignment measurements and tire
pressures.

Sway bars will affect how the car tracks into and out of a turn, will greatly
increase the effectiveness of ackerman alignment settings, and allow the car to
hook up into a turn quicker, as the car will roll less in the same period of
time as you begin a turn...and likewise allow the car to sit flatter quicker..to
be able to apply more power sooner.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Merritt [mailto:merritt@cedar-rapids.net]
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2000 8:51 AM
To: Mohler, Jeff; BHurvitz@aol.com; bbedell@austin.rr.com;
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com; Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com
Cc: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: RE: Team3S: Sway bars



>I will have more info on a www page soon.
>>You will have to wait till then, to dig into the group buy.
>
I don't want to rain on anybody's parade, but I was able to get even
temperatures across my front tires without a sway bar -- just Eibachs and
camber plates. I'm not altogether sure how a sway bar can improve anything
beyond that. However, I am eager to learn: Just exactly what do you guys
expect to accomplish with these sway bars? I am with child in anticipation
of your answer.

My next expenditure will  be a set of GABs, cuz the Eibachs are taking out
my stock struts slowly but surely.

Rich/old poop/94 VR4




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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 17:00:57 -0700
From: jeff.mohler@netapp.com
Subject: RE: Team3S: Fingers Crossed & Knock on Wood

Well, hood is again screwed up.

Its stuck again.


Will leave it 'unlatched' and drive around like normal..and im sure it'll
eventually snap/pop loose.

At which time we will install a brand new latch thats on order.

I dont feel/see any out of alignment problems with it..it just wont release
itself.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Mohler,Anissa
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 11:30 PM
To: team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: Team3S: Fingers Crossed & Knock on Wood


By some miracle of orneriness (probably because the car overheard our talk of
torches and saws) the hood latch just started working again tonight. After
several nights of heartache and pounding (literally) on the thing. I don't know
if ANYTHING we did affected it, but I'm glad it started working.

So thanks to everyone for the information about hoods. We are going to take some
time to research a good carbon fibre hood for the VR-4. In the mean time we are
back on for racing (and passing tech!)

Nissa
95 VR-4 (POS jury out at the moment, lets see if she lasts 'til Thunderhill!)


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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 17:31:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Lucius <stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Removing the Tranny and block...

Chris,

The mechanic removed and replaced my engine and trany together from
the bottom. The car will have to be suspended faily high, using the
large crossmember behind the engine. A hoist is still needed for the
engine after the body is lowered down onto it. The front crossmember
will have to be removed also. I think an advantage is that the trany
can be sealed to the engine off the car. I don't know if
through-the-bottom is realy better than through-the-top. I wasn't
able to participate in the whole process as much as I wanted to, but
did help put the engine in. It's a heavy SOB. Damn, wouldn't it be
nice to have a 200-300 lb engine!

Jeff Lucius
Red 1992 Stealth TT - modified
 --> http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius/

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Maxwell" <shmacker@home.com>
To: <team3s@mail.stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2000 5:00 PM
Subject: Team3S: Removing the Tranny and block...

<snip>
Also, I was wondering if it is possible to remove the engine block
from the bottom.  I don't have an engine hoist, but I can rent one if
I really need it.
<snip>

Thanks again,
Chris Maxwell
92 R/T TT (soon to have a 94 engine block and GTPRO 355 turbos)

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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 20:24:50 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Sway bars

>Sway bars will affect how the car tracks into and out of a turn....

Omigawd! An educated person! Anyone who knows how to use the word "affect"
properly is OK.
I should pay attention to what you have to say.
So, you think higher-rate sway bars will help it corner, eh?

Rich/old poop/94 VR4


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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 18:54:45 -0700
From: "jim berry" <fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Sway bars

> Increased/decreased roll from sway bar additions will change that a
little, but
> again that will need to be adjusted with alignment measurements and tire
> pressures.
>
> Sway bars will affect how the car tracks into and out of a turn, will
greatly
> increase the effectiveness of ackerman alignment settings, and allow the
car to
> hook up into a turn quicker, as the car will roll less in the same period
of
> time as you begin a turn...and likewise allow the car to sit flatter
quicker..to
> be able to apply more power sooner.
======================================================

Is it better to stop roll with bars or with springs --- I know that
increasing the anti-roll
bar stiffness also does weird things to the crossweight biasing ???


            Jim Berry


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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 19:56:40 -0700
From: jeff.mohler@netapp.com
Subject: RE: Team3S: Sway bars

*laugh*

Thanks..*grins*

It depends(tm).

Tire width, alignment, ackerman settings, front/rear distribution..and MOST
importantly the track width differences front to rear.

Sway bars are an important part of the math, but often greatly misunderstood in
thier application.  Too stiff is a reasonably easy thing to achieve, but I would
have to admit probly not on bars made for the street.

Hang around some of the mechanical genius in your SCCA region, and you can
discover some interesting ways to end up with adjustable sway bars..even on cars
that have no provision for it, or bars that arent made for it.

Friend of mine in Tulsa, had a facinating setup on his Gen-2 RX7s, where the
action of the end link would change, based on steering angle.  Even with the car
not moving, going from full R to L on the wheel, you could see the car rise &
dip from side to side.  The coolest part, was that it was 100% stock class
legal.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Merritt [mailto:merritt@cedar-rapids.net]
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2000 6:25 PM
To: Mohler, Jeff; BHurvitz@aol.com; bbedell@austin.rr.com;
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com; Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com
Cc: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: RE: Team3S: Sway bars


>Sway bars will affect how the car tracks into and out of a turn....

Omigawd! An educated person! Anyone who knows how to use the word "affect"
properly is OK.
I should pay attention to what you have to say.
So, you think higher-rate sway bars will help it corner, eh?

Rich/old poop/94 VR4

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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 19:59:18 -0700
From: jeff.mohler@netapp.com
Subject: RE: Team3S: Sway bars

You tune transitions and under/oversteer with bars, and you provide weight
control with springs.

Bars used for weight control, really screw your world up when it comes to
performance driving.

Define a purpose, and get the springs to hold the car how you want it, and bars
to control how the car turns.

- -----Original Message-----
From: jim berry [mailto:fastmax@home.com]
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2000 6:55 PM
To: Mohler, Jeff; merritt@cedar-rapids.net; BHurvitz@aol.com;
bbedell@austin.rr.com; gemohler@www.speedtoys.com;
Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com
Cc: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: Re: Team3S: Sway bars


> Increased/decreased roll from sway bar additions will change that a
little, but
> again that will need to be adjusted with alignment measurements and tire
> pressures.
>
> Sway bars will affect how the car tracks into and out of a turn, will
greatly
> increase the effectiveness of ackerman alignment settings, and allow the
car to
> hook up into a turn quicker, as the car will roll less in the same period
of
> time as you begin a turn...and likewise allow the car to sit flatter
quicker..to
> be able to apply more power sooner.
======================================================

Is it better to stop roll with bars or with springs --- I know that
increasing the anti-roll
bar stiffness also does weird things to the crossweight biasing ???


            Jim Berry

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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 22:48:22 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Sway bars

>Sway bars are an important part of the math, but often greatly
misunderstood in
>thier application.  Too stiff is a reasonably easy thing to achieve, but I
would
>have to admit probly not on bars made for the street. Hang around some of
the mechanical genius in your SCCA region, and you can discover some
interesting ways to end up with adjustable sway bars.
>
The SCCA mechanical geniuses (track instructors) told me to leave my
suspension ALONE -- they said my car corners completely flat, and the tire
temperatures are within 5 F across the face.

I am still not hearing any compelling reason for sway bars.

Rich/old poop/94 VR4/old and flat

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Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 20:11:44 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Sway bars

Then by all means..dont *grin*

However its not a blanket statement that all driving styles, (amongst
other things) would match yours.

Whatever makes YOU a quicker driver..is 110% OK by me.  *grin*

Thats the beauty of auto racing..

On Sat, 20 May 2000, Merritt wrote:

> >Sway bars are an important part of the math, but often greatly
> misunderstood in
> >thier application.  Too stiff is a reasonably easy thing to achieve, but I
> would
> >have to admit probly not on bars made for the street. Hang around some of
> the mechanical genius in your SCCA region, and you can discover some
> interesting ways to end up with adjustable sway bars.
> >
> The SCCA mechanical geniuses (track instructors) told me to leave my
> suspension ALONE -- they said my car corners completely flat, and the tire
> temperatures are within 5 F across the face.
>
> I am still not hearing any compelling reason for sway bars.
>
> Rich/old poop/94 VR4/old and flat
>
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Date: 21 May 2000 07:05:03 -0700
From: John Monnin <jkmonnin@altavista.com>
Subject: Team3S: Gutting pre-cats

I finally pulled the engine in my 91 VR4.  I just got the oil pan off and the rods look good, nothing is too loose.  I pulled the engine because of rod knocking so I will have to remove the rod and main bearing caps and plastigage the clearance if I don’t see any obvious damage.  I will keep list updated on progress.

The great news is that my wife gave me permission to make performance modifications too the car.   Since the engine is out  it is a great time to do them.  My questions are:

1. Gutting pre-cats, If I leave the regular Catalytic converter alone will the exhaust be much louder and I how much power increase can I expect (w/o other changes).  I wangt to leave the regular Catalytic converter alone so I could pass an emmissions test if I ever had to.
2. What is a good piston for a engine that will be only mildly modifed?

John Monnin 1991 VR4
jkmonnin@altavista.com


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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 16:42:30 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Team3S: Admin Message (informal)

Hey gals, guys or friends (sounds better, hehe).

We're happy with the really low "crap" we have on this list and like to
thank all of you for your great input, messages, tips and tricks and ... fun
;-).

But we also like to remind you all that some stuff like "race me" or
chatting stuff should be kept private as well as some domestic car stuff or
other non 3S are not of much interest (sure you don't want to hear the story
of my Z28. LOL) for anyone on the list. Of course some "emergency calls" or
track run reports are ok and as long as we don't have any excessive response
on off-topic stuff we don't see any problems.

Another note, please change also the topic when the content is different !
For example, I'm not interested in any sway bar and just delete the message
with that topic. But as I checked afterwards I found one post with other,
not really Sway Bar related content. So, please help us lazy readers not to
miss some good information ;-)

Thanks to all and drive safely
Roger for the  admins



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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 16:15:11 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: RC Injectors

> About that one unfortunate post regarding a messed up piston... You said
you
> used RC injectors? 2 or 3 of the vendors I have talked to, have told me to
> stay away from the RC injectors, and just get the ND, or some other kind
> (can't remember). The reason was crappy spray pattern, but I don't know
> exactly why.

Well you can get 720 NDs with a flow difference of about 10% ! My RC (Bosch)
have been balanced and came within a 0.1% range including a sheet with the
data. No problems for me :-)) The injectors he got were probably the ones
that have been sold from one to another and again to another guy. I've heard
of such a bad set !

Roger
93'3000GT TT



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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 16:07:13 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Borla re-post

> Borla is a dual system from after the main cat to the exhaust tips.  There
is a muffler on each side of the car, and a single large tip on each of the
two mufflers.

The Borla is not a dual system as it only splits into an y at the rear diff
and then ends into two resonators. With this noise yo ucan't tel lthem
mufflers !

Roger
93'3000GT TT


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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 16:21:45 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: ARC-2

> Unfortunetaly I don't have datalogger, and it is very difficult to tune
> ARC-2.

You can't say it's difficult as you haven't done this already (smile) and I
can tell you it's easier than you think. Without the datalogger just follow
the direction in the manual and thats' it :)

> How do you think what "low","mid","high", and "accel" settings are
> best for car with this setup?

Hmmm, I guess you have Rev 2 of the ARC so my settings are not good for you.
Just start with 0,0,0,1 click.

Roger
93'3000GT TT



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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 16:12:16 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: You guys/gals ROCK!

Vineet,

Good to hear you solved the problem, but ... was it the turbo or what was
the exact problem now ??

> I ordered all the parts from Conicelli mitsubishi (Josh, he rocks, he also
> has a 3000gt vr4 and Galant vr4, and great prices/service). They got here,
> and started on the imposing task of removing/replacing belts (pulleys were
> screeching), and the front turbo.

Roger
93'3000GT TT


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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 10:08:53 -0500
From: Matt Jannusch <MAJ@BigCharts.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Borla re-post

> The Borla is not a dual system as it only splits into an y at the rear diff
> and then ends into two resonators. With this noise yo ucan't tel lthem
> mufflers !

He had asked if it was a dual "like the stock one", which I took to mean that it has two outputs on the back of the car, one on each side.

As far as I know, there isn't a "real" dual system available unless you want to spend really big bucks to get something that hooks two separate pipes from the pre-cat housings.  Therefore it is "dual" compared to something like the some of the others available, which exit on one side, and is more "dual" than the stock exhaust since the flow is split upstream of the mufflers/resonators/empty-coffee-cans.

:-)

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 10:22:28 -0500
From: Trevor James <trevor@kscable.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: RC Injectors

I got my RC's brand new from Altered Atmosphere...with a flow sheet...

Trev

"R.G." wrote:

> > About that one unfortunate post regarding a messed up piston... You said
> you
> > used RC injectors? 2 or 3 of the vendors I have talked to, have told me to
> > stay away from the RC injectors, and just get the ND, or some other kind
> > (can't remember). The reason was crappy spray pattern, but I don't know
> > exactly why.
>
> Well you can get 720 NDs with a flow difference of about 10% ! My RC (Bosch)
> have been balanced and came within a 0.1% range including a sheet with the
> data. No problems for me :-)) The injectors he got were probably the ones
> that have been sold from one to another and again to another guy. I've heard
> of such a bad set !
>
> Roger
> 93'3000GT TT
>
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Date: Sun, 21 May 2000 18:28:01 -0400
From: Jason Barnhart <phnxgld@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Borla re-post

I believe that Bozz Speed offers a true dual exhaust system for our cars.  It's about $1600 and I hear it includes downpipes (2 I guess).  It's a nice idea but I understand that there are some questions regarding it's effectiveness and I've yet to hear of anyone running or testing it.

Jason


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Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 08:31:13 -0500
From: "Oskar" <swede@pclink.com>
Subject: Team3S: For sale: HKS dual tip cat-back exhaust

Hello all,

I'm selling my dual tip HKS cat-back on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=335608404

Please e-mail me privately with any questions.

Thanks,
Oskar
'95 R/T TT





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Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 07:43:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Lucius <stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Gutting pre-cats

Hi John, Congrats on the permission!

1. I didn't notice that gutting the pre-cats made my stock exhaust
system much louder. "Better" is probably a good description. Passing
emmissions here in CO was no problem with only the main cat.

2. I think any forged piston is good insurance. I don't think it is
the mods that stress out our engines, but the detonation that can
happen in a stock or modified engine with bad gas or higher boost
levels. Venolia, Arias, and JE (others?) make pistons for our cars.
And of course there are the stock Mitsu ones. Shops like GT-PRO,
Dynamic Racing, and Accel. Access. could probably give you great
advice for this.

Jeff Lucius, 3SI #476
Red 1992 Stealth TT - modified
  --> http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius/

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "John Monnin" <jkmonnin@altavista.com>
To: "3000GT News Group" <team3s-digest@mail.stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2000 8:05 AM
Subject: Team3S: Gutting pre-cats

I finally pulled the engine in my 91 VR4.  I just got the oil pan off
and the rods look good, nothing is too loose.  I pulled the engine
because of rod knocking so I will have to remove the rod and main
bearing caps and plastigage the clearance if I don’t see any obvious
damage.  I will keep list updated on progress.

The great news is that my wife gave me permission to make performance
modifications too the car.   Since the engine is out  it is a great
time to do them.  My questions are:

1. Gutting pre-cats, If I leave the regular Catalytic converter alone
will the exhaust be much louder and I how much power increase can I
expect (w/o other changes).  I wangt to leave the regular Catalytic
converter alone so I could pass an emmissions test if I ever had to.
2. What is a good piston for a engine that will be only mildly
modifed?

John Monnin 1991 VR4
jkmonnin@altavista.com


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