team3s              Tuesday, May 16 2000              Volume 01 : Number 138




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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 17:09:20 -0700
From: Pat Widder <widder@widder.com>
Subject: Team3S: "Smart Tire" Tire Pressure Monitoring System

Hello all,

I've been lurking and absorbing the wisdom of list members here for the
last few months and thought it was about time to contribute.

Brief history: I've owned two VR4's since 1995 and have enjoyed them both
immensely. Because of this, I also get that warm and fuzzy feeling knowing
that I am contributing to my insurance man's Tahitian vacations, the local
tire guy's retirement, radar detector manufacturers, the CA DMV points
system etc., but I won't bore you with that as I'm sure a lot of you are
doing the best you can in this regard too.

And seriously... what a pleasure it is to be on a mailing list with such a
great signal-to-noise ratio!!!

At 06:39 PM 5/15/2000 +0200, Roger wrote:

>I was interested in the system discounttire.com is offering. But the bulky
>monitor is har to isntall anywhere o nteh dashboard or even in the armrest.

After ruining a $300 Yokohama last month running it at no more than 45 mph
for 7 miles with 17 psi, I too got interested in tire pressure monitoring
systems (I have one for a motorcycle). I was ecstatic when Jeff posted that
we could get one from the company he works for and happy I could give back
to a list member in some way. The integrated mirror/*self-powered* receiver
seems like a great way to go and I hope their engineers stick with that
concept.

Today I ordered the "Smart Tire" unit from http://partsgm.com/parts.htm at
half the price ($150 USD) most other dealers offer it for. It requires
either being plugged into a cigarette lighter or hard wired (a harness is
included). Given its dimensions, the receiving unit should just fit between
the dome light panel and sunroof of my VR4. This should make powering the
unit relatively easy as you can tap into the dome light leads.

The actual mounting to the headliner I haven't figured out yet, but I'm
sure there's a way. =:-o

Pat


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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 20:05:44 -0400
From: "Dan Mecier" <dmecier@ka.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: TMO Datalogger on a '95?

Does anyone happen to have available to them a diagnostic plug from an OBDI
car?

Thanks,

Dan
94 3000GT VR-4
3SI - #328


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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 21:25:56 CDT
From: "Mark Wendlandt" <stealth_tt@hotmail.com>
Subject: Team3S: Supra pump install

I bought the MKIV pump.  Toyota PN  23221-49110...Denso PN 195130-1020

2 questions regarding installation of the pump.

1:  The fuel line that connects to the tank.  I realize that the fitting on
the tank side does not spin...i.e. hold this end while spinning the hose
end.  Well I could not get the hose end to spin free from the hose.  The
hose would just coil up.  I know that this is not right.  The manual says
that I have to take the other end of the hose off first.  Is this
necessary??  Is the hose end supposed to spin free from the hose.  Mine is
pretty rusty.

2:  When I removed the stock pump.  The top with the nipple, has two plastic
pieces with a o-ring in the middle.  I removed these and put them on the new
supra pump.  The bottom plastic piece doesn't fit flush to the pump and
therefore the o-ring and top plastic piece don't fit properly.  I'm guessing
that I have to go back to Toyota to buy the pieces that fit this pump??
Suggestions...

Thanks,

Mark Wendlandt
'91RT/TT
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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 21:41:14 -0500
From: xwing <xwing@execpc.com>
Subject: Team3S: Re: Supra pump install

Mark Wendlandt wrote:

> I bought MKIV pump.  Toyota PN  23221-49110...Denso PN 195130-1020
> 1:  fuel line that connects to tank.  I realize fitting on
> tank side does not spin.  I could not get  hose end to spin free from  hose.
> The
> hose would just coil up.  The manual says
> have to take the other end of  hose off first.  Is this
> necessary?

Yes. You go under car, on front/toward upper aspect of the fuel tank are
two lines, one is the fuel line you see attached to the pump's hardline fitting.

Loosen it, need not REMOVE it because once loose, THAT LOWER END
spins so upper end can spin off.
BTW, I have changed pump by twisting the hose a bunch of times (once)
but it was hard  :)

> 2:  When I removed stock pump.  The top with the nipple, has two plastic
> pieces with a o-ring in the middle.  I removed these and put them on the new
> supra pump.  The bottom plastic piece doesn't fit flush to the pump and
> therefore the o-ring and top plastic piece don't fit properly.  I'm guessing
> that I have to go back to Toyota to buy the pieces that fit this pump??

Is exactly same pump dimenstions so you are not doing it right.  Should
go on EXACTLY like it was on stock pump.
Jack Tertadian



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Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 02:06:56 EDT
From: Screemo@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: UPDATE: LEMON CHECK

    Hey Gang, me and my girlfriend just got back from our 700 mile trip!! Let
me tell you, the car was worth every single mile. I had the chance to spend
about a good hour overlooking the car. The owner is a doctor (original owner)
who recently bought a new Mercedes CLK which is the reason he is selling. The
owner hasn't made any performance mods to the car. The only mods are 18"
Chrome VR-4 wheels, aftermarket electric sunroof, Alpine double-din
cassette/15 CD player, amp and bass tube and Python alarm. Engine is
completely stock.
    I made a checklist of all the information I got on here before the trip.
Everything turned out perfect. The car has been given synthetic oil every
3,000 miles. He has all the receipts for the regular maintenance and new
transmission. He's not exactly sure if the timing belt was changed, so that
leads me to believe I need the 60kmi tune-up. No smoke out of the exhaust,
boost kicks in a little under 3k rpm's, no grinding in any gear, all
amenities work. I did notice one thing though. At about 110 mph when I braked
I felt a "wobble." Definitely felt like warped rotors to me. I asked the
owner if the rotors were stock, he said they had been refinished a couple of
times but as far as he new they were stock. Just wanted to throw that out to
the group and see what everyone thought. The wobble was not nearly as
noticeable at lower speeds. Sorry for the long letter guys but I'm really
pumped about it. I took some pictures of the car/engine today and if anyone
wants to check them out, drop me a line. Thanks again to everyone. Talk to
you soon.


Bill

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Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 09:22:57 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Team3S: GP on Poprterfield brakes

FYI
There is a GP on Porterfield stuff going on.

http://www.3si.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/006270.html

For more info watch the thread or email dqs2056@is.nyu.edu


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Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 01:33:19 -0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Update: Lemon Check

Sounds like a winner for sure - no wonder you're excited!  :-)  That
year, '94, is thought (by many of us) to be the best of all 3S's, with
stronger parts, better crash protection, dual airbags standard, etc.  If
the price is right (taking into account what you WILL spend for the
60k/waterpump/etc and what you SHOULD spend on an aftermarket warranty)
it could be the right car.  Oh yeah, remember that insurance on
high-performance cars is steep, too.  Figure it all in the budget.
Before you buy, do a quick comparison check on www.autotrader.com for
similar cars in your area...  But don't wait too long - if it really is
a "cream-puff" it won't be for sale for too long.

BTW, it probably IS warped rotors that caused the wobble, but it's also
possible that it was underinflation or even mis-torqued lugnuts.  Even
the manual recommends +5 lbs for speeds over 100, and many of us use at
least that much for normal driving, and closer to +10 lbs for high
speeds.  And if the lugnuts are not all at the same torque, you can get
wobble even without braking, and at much lower speeds.

Good luck, Bill!  :-)

Forrest

- -----Original Message-----From: Screemo@aol.com

>    Hey Gang, me and my girlfriend just got back from our 700 mile
trip!! Let
>me tell you, the car was worth every single mile. I had the chance to
spend
>about a good hour overlooking the car. The owner is a doctor (original
owner)
>who recently bought a new Mercedes CLK which is the reason he is
selling. The
>owner hasn't made any performance mods to the car. The only mods are
18"
>Chrome VR-4 wheels, aftermarket electric sunroof, Alpine double-din
>cassette/15 CD player, amp and bass tube and Python alarm. Engine is
>completely stock.
>    I made a checklist of all the information I got on here before the
trip.
>Everything turned out perfect. The car has been given synthetic oil
every
>3,000 miles. He has all the receipts for the regular maintenance and
new
>transmission. He's not exactly sure if the timing belt was changed, so
that
>leads me to believe I need the 60kmi tune-up. No smoke out of the
exhaust,
>boost kicks in a little under 3k rpm's, no grinding in any gear, all
>amenities work. I did notice one thing though. At about 110 mph when I
braked
>I felt a "wobble." Definitely felt like warped rotors to me. I asked
the
>owner if the rotors were stock, he said they had been refinished a
couple of
>times but as far as he new they were stock. Just wanted to throw that
out to
>the group and see what everyone thought. The wobble was not nearly as
>noticeable at lower speeds. Sorry for the long letter guys but I'm
really
>pumped about it. I took some pictures of the car/engine today and if
anyone
>wants to check them out, drop me a line. Thanks again to everyone. Talk
to
>you soon.
>Bill






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Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 13:54:46 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mike Baldwin <mbaldwin@eecs.tufts.edu>
Subject: Team3S: Replace the horn

I want to replace the horn on my 3000GT with something louder and deeper.
Can someone forward me the schematics on what the horn hookup looks like?

The reason I am asking this again is because I went down to an auto parts
store and they told me that the airhorns they carried were "not compatible
with Mitsu's" and that I should go down to a custom car shop to get this
done(?).


Would it be possible for me to buy a BMW or something or would this just
totally not work?

Thanks

Michael



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Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 13:07:32 -0600
From: Dave Monarchi <monarchd@refuge.Colorado.EDU>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Replace the horn

- --------

+> I want to replace the horn on my 3000GT with something louder and deeper.
+> Can someone forward me the schematics on what the horn hookup looks like?
+>
+> The reason I am asking this again is because I went down to an auto parts
+> store and they told me that the airhorns they carried were "not compatible
+> with Mitsu's" and that I should go down to a custom car shop to get this
+> done(?).
+>
+>
+> Would it be possible for me to buy a BMW or something or would this just
+> totally not work?

why would you buy a BMW when you have a 3000GT?      ;)

just go to a junkyard and find a an old 70's land yacht..  big domestic
cars of that era had pretty loud horns..  they're all 12V so all you need
to do is to creatively mount it and maybe adapt the connectors.. 

also, if I remember right there are 2 factory horns..  there's also a
connection from the alarm to a horn but I'm not sure if it's a third
or just one of the 2..  make sure you switch out the correct one..

in my opinion, air horns are too much of a pain to deal with..  the cheap
ones have a delay in response because the air pump takes a second to develop
pressure.. 

on the other hand.. I had air horns in my 78 Honda Civic 1200..  it always
amused me to give someone a blast (when deserved) and have them think a
"Big Rig" truck was bearing down on them..   :)

hope that's of some help..


Dave

95 Black 3000GT VR4
87 Mica Red GTI G60

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Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 15:53:58 -0400
From: "Mark Elkin" <markelkin@mindspring.com>
Subject: FW: Team3S: Replace the horn

Michael,
In my reply to you I forgot to mention that I bought the horns at Autozone
for I think about $30 and the brand was I think "WOLO".  Mitsu wanted about
$80 for a new set of factory horns.

Mark



Michael,

I just replaced the horns on my '96 VR-4.  The guy who had it before me put
a crappy air horn on it and it quit working.....anyway....the horns you need
to replace are behind the front bumper.  They are easy to access.  There are
hookups for 2 horns (hi-frequency and low-frequency).  There are two black
wires (neg) and two colored wires (green, and green with a tracer I think).

The only part that was not compatible was the actual connector.  The ones on
the car were round female and the ones on the wires that came with the horns
were flat male.  I bought some round connectors (the male part) and replaced
the end with the male flat connector and just plugged the wires in.  It took
me about 30 mins. and I am not Mr. mechanic by any means.


I hope this helps.

Mark '96 VR-4
'97 YZF 600



> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
> [mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Mike Baldwin
> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2000 13:55
> To: team3s-digest@mail.stealth-3000gt.st
> Subject: Team3S: Replace the horn
>
>
> I want to replace the horn on my 3000GT with something louder and deeper.
> Can someone forward me the schematics on what the horn hookup looks like?
>
> The reason I am asking this again is because I went down to an auto parts
> store and they told me that the airhorns they carried were "not compatible
> with Mitsu's" and that I should go down to a custom car shop to get this
> done(?).
>
>
> Would it be possible for me to buy a BMW or something or would this just
> totally not work?
>
> Thanks
>
> Michael
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 16:04:06 EDT
From: "Dg B" <dbretton@hotmail.com>
Subject: Team3S: Fwd: Terrible News

just got this from starnet

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>Everyone!
>
>Matt Meyers from Accelerated Accessories was hurt very seriously in a car
>accident. He rolled his BMW 3 or 4 times. He is in ICU and they say he
>will be in ICU for quite some time. He has major head trauma and a broken
>back. They also removed his spleen. He had two passengers whom I
>understand to have minor injuries. I feel horrible because I had just
>placed an order with him and they found it in the car after the crash.
>
>I wanted to let the group know about his situation so we all could keep
>him in our minds and prayers. His dad and brother will be out of the shop
>for a while. They do plan, right now, to open back up sometime soon.
>Frank said that Matt will not be able to accept calls or flowers until he
>is out of ICU. This is all I know. If you know Matt and Frank I am sure
>your calls would be appreciated. If someone learns more please keep us
>updated.
>
>Take care, Glenn
>

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Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 16:04:12 EDT
From: Screemo@aol.com
Subject: Team3S: LEMON CHECK  UPDATE

    Hey guys, just wanted to fill everyone in on my situation. I put a
deposit on the car yesterday and got pre-approaved for my loan. The only
thing left is the insurance. The lowest quote I got believe it or not is
$4,100 for the year with Progressive, that's with $1000 deductible's on comp
and collision. I knew it was going to be expensive to insure the car. I'm a
20 year old male which probably doesn't help my situation. My current
insurance company and two others wont even insure the car, period. They say
it has some symbol next to it and they wont touch it. Well, I got two hours
of sleep last night cause I was so excited I'm finally getting my dream car.
I still feel the adreline rush even in the short time I had with the car. I
couldn't believe the amount of torque the car has.
    Regarding the rotors, should I replace all four or just the front? Also,
where's the best place to get the 60kmi tuneup done in the northeast? There
is a local Mitsu dealership, but they don't have a very good reputation and I
don't trust them. Thanks for everyone's help and input. I'll definitely be in
touch.

Bill in NY

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Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 16:14:33 -0500
From: Merritt <merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: LEMON CHECK  UPDATE

The lowest quote I got believe it or not is
>$4,100 for the year with Progressive, that's with $1000 deductible's on comp
>and collision.

You need a winter rat  to be your primary vehicle. That way, the VR4
becomes a Sunday driver, not a go-to-work car, and your insurance cost will
drop like a rock. Besides, you don't want to drive it in the winter anyway.

Hey, I didn't hear anything about a warranty. Hope you are getting one.
You'll regret it if you don't.

>Well, I got two hours
>of sleep last night cause I was so excited I'm finally getting my dream car.
>I still feel the adreline rush even in the short time I had with the car. I
>couldn't believe the amount of torque the car has.

I know how you feel. I drove mine in St Louis, then went home to Cedar
Rapids to think about it. All I could see was the actor Will Smith, in the
movie Independence Day, when he flew the alien spacecraft for the first
time: he said, "I gotta get me one of these!" That was me.

>    Regarding the rotors, should I replace all four or just the front?

Just the fronts. Our brakes are extremely simple, and no challenge to any
mechanically-inclined person. Shoot, I change pads myself trackside and, if
I can do it, anybody can. Check our FAQ list for a description on how to
change pads.

Forget the dealer. They regard brake jobs as a huge money sink. Go to them,
and EVERYTHING will be wrong with your brakes. We hear dealer horror
stories here all the time involving brakes.

Instead, find yourself a friendly brake and suspension shop that is willing
to tackle the job. Ask them to remove the front rotors and turn them down.
Install new stock pads. Everything should be just fine. Our front brakes
are suitable for everything this side of road racing or autobahn cruising.

You definitely need to cultivate a mechanic outside the Mitsu dealer who is
willing to work on your car.

Rich/old poop/94 VR4



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Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 16:36:20 -0500
From: Trevor James <trevor@kscable.com>
Subject: Team3S: A engine problem & a few questions...

What's up guys? I've got a few questions about an engine problem I've been
having. Here's a list of my mods before I even start.
http://www.linkline.com/personal/amahoser/trevor.html
Went out looking for races the other day. Checked the air fuel ratio and it was
good (.94-.96V), EGT's stayed under 1630F on a quarter mile run, and boost was
set at 14.9 psi. My EVC IV was set to drop the boost down to 6.7 psi if it went
over 16 psi. All was well.
While racing a Z28 on a third gear punch I steadily lost power from 6000-6800 rpm
when I backed out it. The engine died and I coasted off of a highway exit. There
it wouldn't start for what seemed like an eternity. It finally turned over and
was belching dark grey smoke (flooded) for a few seconds. Then it idled like crap
and I babied it less than a mile to home. I put the scantool on it and no matter
how rich i turned up the ARC the back bank of cylinders O2 would not go over
.52V. The computer was constantly trying to richen up the back bank also. The
front would max out to a full 1.0V. Weird.
Ripped it apart and checked the plugs. The front bank of three were fine but the
rear middle and passenger side plug electrodes had been crushed until it touched
the center electrode. IE no gap! Has anyone ever seen this? I've regapped the
plugs twice and I know with one of the plugs I had squished it past .032" and had
to open it back up slightly. Sounds far fetched but do you think I may have
weakened the metal and the heat caused it to close up? I don't think there's any
way the piston top could have come in contact with the plug without messing up
some valves. I wonder if I may have burned up a coil or two. I used a borescope
to look at the insides of the cylinders and the tops of the pistons. It looks
good. All the valves seem to be closing just fine, no bent ones. The tops of the
pistons don't have any holes or nicks in them from coming in contact with
anything.
I checked out the timing belt and tensioner and they look just fine. The belt
feels pretty tight and looks great. After all the car has only 26K miles on it.
With the crank pulley's reference mark @ TDC the front intake cam's reference
mark is at roughly 4 o'clock where the front exhaust cam's at 8 o'clock. The back
is the opposite (intake at 8 and exhaust at 4). I thought the cams were supposed
to line up with the triangle and square on the drivers side of the valve
covers?!? I'm using the dimples on the sides of the cam sprockets as reference
marks.
Next plan of action is to do a compression test. What's the minimum compression I
should see? I'm also going to swap the front and rear injectors to see if the
lean bank condition follows.

Any input would be appreciated guys...

Trevor

PS I beat the Z28...he backed out of it after I put a quick 3 carlengths on him.


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Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 20:48:17 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Replace the horn

> I want to replace the horn on my 3000GT with something louder and deeper.
> Can someone forward me the schematics on what the horn hookup looks like?

The two little "tweeters" sit behind the bumper, reacheable right before the
radiator. There are two wires for them and simple one ground.

> The reason I am asking this again is because I went down to an auto parts
> store and they told me that the airhorns they carried were "not compatible
> with Mitsu's" and that I should go down to a custom car shop to get this
> done(?).

Everything works fine, at least what we have here in Europe.

> Would it be possible for me to buy a BMW or something or would this just
> totally not work?

They are usually the same. The two wires are the same and the groudn can be
connected to the chassis.

Roger
93'3000GT TT (deep dual tone horns)


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Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 00:23:45 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: A engine problem & a few questions...

> was belching dark grey smoke (flooded) for a few seconds. Then it idled
like crap
> and I babied it less than a mile to home. I put the scantool on it and no
matter
> how rich i turned up the ARC the back bank of cylinders O2 would not go
over
> .52V. The computer was constantly trying to richen up the back bank also.
The
> front would max out to a full 1.0V. Weird.

Hmm, it sounds like :
- - O2 sensor is gone
- - One or two injectors are not working

> Ripped it apart and checked the plugs. The front bank of three were fine
but the
> rear middle and passenger side plug electrodes had been crushed until it
touched
> the center electrode. IE no gap! Has anyone ever seen this?

Yes, after the belt slipped ! Also when I had the ocmpression problem on my
car, the landring was broken and a piece foudn it's way up to the chamber
where it hits the plug before it found the way out.

> burned up a coil or two.

You can easily check them with a multimeter.

> I used a borescope to look at the insides of the cylinders and the tops of
the pistons.

Can you please tell me where to get such a lovely tool :))

> I'm using the dimples on the sides of the cam sprockets as reference
marks.

For all these testings I highly recommend you to get a manual (or at least
the CD from Vineet Singh)

> Next plan of action is to do a compression test. What's the minimum
compression I

Around 115psi is min but I'd not accept values below 120psi

Hope this helps a little
Roger
93'3000GT TT



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Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 16:46:32 -0700
From: "Murat Okcuoglu" <murat@dellnet.com>
Subject: Team3S: insurance

try general national. I pay $700 for 3 cars inculing two turbo mitsus


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Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 17:01:05 -0700
From: jeff.mohler@netapp.com
Subject: Team3S: Hood release!!

Ah hell..

Hood release has stopped working.  Worked good last night, this AM..no go up.


Cable seems intact, I can hear it under the hood up front, but its not engaging
the latch.

What short of removing the bumper..do I do now?

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Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 19:23:01 -0500
From: "cody" <overclck@flash.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Hood release!!

You won't get the bumper off without removing the hood first...  Have
someone attempt to pull upon the hood while you pull the latch...  Maybe a
big suction cup would work...

- -Cody


#Ah hell..
#
#Hood release has stopped working.  Worked good last night, this
#AM..no go up.
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#
#Cable seems intact, I can hear it under the hood up front, but its
#not engaging
#the latch.
#
#What short of removing the bumper..do I do now?
#
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