team3s
Monday, May 8
2000
Volume 01 : Number
128
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Date:
Sun, 7 May 2000 09:38:20 -0400
From: "Michael S. Steinebach" <
mikala.s@home.com>
Subject: Team3S:
New Engine
Hey Everybody.
I have a question for you. As I
said in an email in response to Chris
Maxwell, I just got a new engine in my
car. I put 50 miles on it driving
home from the shop I choose to do the
job. Well. Now I'm at 80 or 90 miles
and the car is running like
crap. I went out side one day at lunch and
tried to tune my fuel
computer a little better. I had it running pretty
good. When I
came back out side a little later to show a co worker it was
sputtering and
kinda gurgled from idle to 2500 rpm. I know it is not the
fuel computer
or the split second upgrade(GT PRO) because I took it back off
and put the
stock MAF back on. It basically ran the same way. I think I
had
it tuned a little better than stock, but that's trivial. I
haven't
touched anything in the engine since I got it back so I know it's not
my
fault. I think that the Hydraulic Tensioner on the Timing belt
collapsed
and I am either running on 3 cylinders or the timing is shot to
hell. One
day my dad and I changed the timing belt and we didn't
totally engage the
tensioner and it was only running on 3 cylinders according
to Mitsubishi
Service. Well. Let me know what you think. I
am going to take it back
down to my service center next week because he is on
vacation this week. I
want to be able to narrow down the problem as
much as possible so he can get
it done as fast as possible. Thanks
Everybody
Michael Steinebach
91' Mitsubishi 3000GT SL -
Modified
Unorthodox Underdrive Pulley
Split Second Upgrade
Magnecor
Spark Plug Wires
NGK Spark Plugs Gapped at .042
Polished Front Valve
Cover
Chrome Painted Intake Manifold
Enkei 17 Inch RPO2 Rims
Nitto
NT-555 Extreme ZR Tires
Erebuni Spoiler
Stillen CrossDrilled
Rotors
Stillen Steal Braided Brake Lines
Stillen Metal Matrix Brake
Pads
Nice Audio System
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Date:
Sun, 7 May 2000 11:12:10 EDT
From:
AABOMB1@aol.comSubject: Team3S: Re: racing
gas questions
>Where do you guys get distilled water
from?
>
>Trevor
>96 R/T TT
>92 GMC
Typhoon
I'm pretty sure you can find it at just about any common
grocery store such
as Walmart or Kmart.
AA
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Date:
Sun, 7 May 2000 10:14:12 -0700
From: "Mohler, Jeff" <
jeff.mohler@netapp.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Fwd: Mitsubishi VR-4 17" Chrome
Wheels
Merritt:
Youd be suprised to see what your track times
would do if you used a better
wheel, and dropped about 70lbs of rotating mass
off your stock wheels.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Merritt [
mailto:merritt@cedar-rapids.net]
Sent:
Saturday, May 06, 2000 1:18 PM
To: Dg B;
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st;
stealth@dragnet.comSubject: Re:
Team3S: Fwd: Mitsubishi VR-4 17" Chrome Wheels
>
Please excuse the slightly off-topic post here. However, this may be of
>interest to many of you. I purchased a set of rechromed Vr-4
wheels from
>Arrow Tire and Wheel last July. I just pulled the
wheels out to find them
>peeling and deteriorating in some
areas.
>
Good luck in your quest for redress.
FWIW, I bought a
set of beat-up 17-in. wheels from Arrow last year for $100
each to use as
race wheels, and they arrived in exactly the condition that
Arrow described.
They said that two were OK and two needed rechroming, and
that's exactly what
arrived.
In fact, it was on YOUR advice that I bought from them.
I have been considering sending the two gunky ones back to Arrow
for
rechroming, but I think I'll wait and see how they handle your
complaint.
Let's hope that Arrow makes good.
Rich/old poop/94
VR4
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Date:
Sun, 07 May 2000 14:35:56 -0500
From: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Fwd: Mitsubishi VR-4 17" Chrome Wheels
>Youd be
suprised to see what your track times would do if you used a
better
>wheel, and dropped about 70lbs of rotating mass off your stock
wheels.
>
Got a suggestion for something that weighs less, takes the
sideways forces
of open track racing, and doesn't cost a billion dollars per
wheel? When I
talked to the racing wheel expert at tirerack.com last
year, he had only a
couple of wheels that both fit our cars and were suitable
for road racing.
One was a Fittipaldi, which cost a billion dollars per
wheel. I forget the
other one, but I didn't like it.
Any of the road
racers out there have a suggestion?
Rich/old poop/94
VR4
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Date:
Sun, 7 May 2000 22:11:46 +0200
From: "R.G." <
robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: took front head off and took pics - need advice
>
valves. I see a lot of carbon buildup but I'm not sure what would
be
> considered excessive.
No I don't think that this is a lot
carbon buildup, just normal. But it
looks to me like oil deposits. Some
cylinders are looking "oil-wet" and some
not.
> searching
for what would be causing the harsh tapping noise in the engine.
As far
as I remember, you did the comrpession and leak-dow test and all
results were
ok, right ? If the timing was also ok, I just wonder if you had
any chance to
datalog the car to see if the tapping sound caused knock.
Soory, not much
of help on the subject
Roger
93'3000GT TT
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Date:
Sun, 7 May 2000 22:07:42 +0200
From: "R.G." <
robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: New Engine
Mike,
> fuel computer or the split second
upgrade(GT PRO) because I took it back
off
> and put the stock MAF back
on. It basically ran the same way.
Here the question arises on what
the fuel computer does ??? It doesn't make
any sense to me if the injectors
are not upgraded as well ! Remember, this
is a non-Turbo car and the MAS is
no restriction, or better said the flow
difference of teh MAF and MAS is not
helping anything. If you are running
larger injectors then of course the
stock ECU cannot handle them.
> fault. I think that the
Hydraulic Tensioner on the Timing belt collapsed
> and I am either running
on 3 cylinders or the timing is shot to hell.
If it is running on only 3
cylinders, then the other bank is simply said
"kaputt" ! All valves
will then be bent as the cam is not running and the
pistons are slapping
against them. I know how such an engine looks like :-(
> day my dad
and I changed the timing belt and we didn't totally engage the
> tensioner
and it was only running on 3 cylinders according to Mitsubishi
>
Service.
And this was because the engine has been swapped ??? Just note,
any bad
stuff around our timing belt causes heavy damage to the head
internals. Bad
but unfortunately true.
In your case I'd say that the
timing is off a few teeths (at least one bank)
It is just not so far off that
this could cause a damage and therefore
you're still fine. Just don't rev it
up and let them check the timing and
all the stuff around the belt
!
Good luck
Roger
93'3000GT TT
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Date:
Sun, 07 May 2000 15:21:24 -0700
From: Errin Humphrey <
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Subject:
Team3S: [Fwd: Fuel Pump Cutoff switch]
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but I don't think it ever got posted
here.
It's a nifty theft-deterrent mod.
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I finally got the pictures developed from putting in the fuel
pump cutoff
switch on my stealth. I made a little webpage if anyone
wants to check out
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Date:
Sun, 7 May 2000 19:18:04 -0400
From: "Michael S. Steinebach" <
mikala.s@home.com>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: New Engine
Thanks. I was figuring that the tension didn't
tighten fast enough at the
belt skipped a few teeth. AKA timing is
off. You said this will not damage
the engine
right?...
Michael
- -----Original Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st[
mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of R.G.
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 4:08 PM
To: Team 3SI
Subject:
Re: Team3S: New Engine
Mike,
> fuel computer or the split
second upgrade(GT PRO) because I took it back
off
> and put the stock
MAF back on. It basically ran the same way.
Here the question
arises on what the fuel computer does ??? It doesn't make
any sense to me if
the injectors are not upgraded as well ! Remember, this
is a non-Turbo car
and the MAS is no restriction, or better said the flow
difference of teh MAF
and MAS is not helping anything. If you are running
larger injectors then of
course the stock ECU cannot handle them.
> fault. I think that
the Hydraulic Tensioner on the Timing belt collapsed
> and I am either
running on 3 cylinders or the timing is shot to hell.
If it is running on
only 3 cylinders, then the other bank is simply said
"kaputt" ! All
valves will then be bent as the cam is not running and the
pistons are
slapping against them. I know how such an engine looks like :-(
> day
my dad and I changed the timing belt and we didn't totally engage the
>
tensioner and it was only running on 3 cylinders according to Mitsubishi
>
Service.
And this was because the engine has been swapped ??? Just note,
any bad
stuff around our timing belt causes heavy damage to the head
internals. Bad
but unfortunately true.
In your case I'd say that the
timing is off a few teeths (at least one bank)
It is just not so far off that
this could cause a damage and therefore
you're still fine. Just don't rev it
up and let them check the timing and
all the stuff around the belt
!
Good luck
Roger
93'3000GT TT
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Date:
Sun, 7 May 2000 16:36:08 -0700
From: "Mohler, Jeff" <
jeff.mohler@netapp.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Fwd: Mitsubishi VR-4 17" Chrome Wheels
Ive got 18lb
Gewalts (18x9) on the VR4 now, and theyve taken 10x the abuse the
OZs did,
and are still perfectly round..this includes a number of pro-ralley
and
ralley-cross events as well. $250/wheel I belive was what we
paid. Mag. alloy.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Merritt [
mailto:merritt@cedar-rapids.net]
Sent:
Sunday, May 07, 2000 12:36 PM
To: Mohler, Jeff; Dg B;
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st;
stealth@dragnet.comSubject: RE:
Team3S: Fwd: Mitsubishi VR-4 17" Chrome Wheels
>Youd be
suprised to see what your track times would do if you used a
better
>wheel, and dropped about 70lbs of rotating mass off your stock
wheels.
>
Got a suggestion for something that weighs less, takes the
sideways forces
of open track racing, and doesn't cost a billion dollars per
wheel? When I
talked to the racing wheel expert at tirerack.com last
year, he had only a
couple of wheels that both fit our cars and were suitable
for road racing.
One was a Fittipaldi, which cost a billion dollars per
wheel. I forget the
other one, but I didn't like it.
Any of the road
racers out there have a suggestion?
Rich/old poop/94
VR4
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Date:
Sun, 7 May 2000 16:58:32 -0700
From: "Mohler, Jeff" <
jeff.mohler@netapp.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: New Engine
If your valve timing is off, it can easily destroy
a motor if bad enuff.
- -----Original Message-----
From: Michael S.
Steinebach [
mailto:mikala.s@home.com]
Sent: Sunday,
May 07, 2000 4:18 PM
To: Team 3SI
Subject: RE: Team3S: New
Engine
Thanks. I was figuring that the tension didn't tighten
fast enough at the
belt skipped a few teeth. AKA timing is off.
You said this will not damage
the engine right?...
Michael
-
-----Original Message-----
From:
owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st[
mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of R.G.
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2000 4:08 PM
To: Team 3SI
Subject:
Re: Team3S: New Engine
Mike,
> fuel computer or the split
second upgrade(GT PRO) because I took it back
off
> and put the stock
MAF back on. It basically ran the same way.
Here the question
arises on what the fuel computer does ??? It doesn't make
any sense to me if
the injectors are not upgraded as well ! Remember, this
is a non-Turbo car
and the MAS is no restriction, or better said the flow
difference of teh MAF
and MAS is not helping anything. If you are running
larger injectors then of
course the stock ECU cannot handle them.
> fault. I think that
the Hydraulic Tensioner on the Timing belt collapsed
> and I am either
running on 3 cylinders or the timing is shot to hell.
If it is running on
only 3 cylinders, then the other bank is simply said
"kaputt" ! All
valves will then be bent as the cam is not running and the
pistons are
slapping against them. I know how such an engine looks like :-(
> day
my dad and I changed the timing belt and we didn't totally engage the
>
tensioner and it was only running on 3 cylinders according to Mitsubishi
>
Service.
And this was because the engine has been swapped ??? Just note,
any bad
stuff around our timing belt causes heavy damage to the head
internals. Bad
but unfortunately true.
In your case I'd say that the
timing is off a few teeths (at least one bank)
It is just not so far off that
this could cause a damage and therefore
you're still fine. Just don't rev it
up and let them check the timing and
all the stuff around the belt
!
Good luck
Roger
93'3000GT TT
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Date:
Sun, 7 May 2000 19:57:24 -0400
From: "Michael S. Steinebach" <
mikala.s@home.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Injector Recommendation
What would you guy's recommend for a GT Pro 386
Twin Turbo Upgrade. Would I
need 720's or can I use 550's.
Thanks
Michael Steineach
91' Mitsubishi 3000GT SL -
Modified
Unorthodox Underdrive Pulley
Split Second Upgrade
Magnecor
Spark Plug Wires
NGK Spark Plugs Gapped at .042
Polished Front Valve
Cover
Chrome Painted Intake Manifold
Enkei 17 Inch RPO2 Rims
Nitto
NT-555 Extreme ZR Tires
Erebuni Spoiler
Stillen CrossDrilled
Rotors
Stillen Steal Braided Brake Lines
Stillen Metal Matrix Brake
Pads
Nice Audio System
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Date:
Sun, 7 May 2000 17:10:41 -0700
From: "Jim Berry" <
fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Fwd: Mitsubishi VR-4 17" Chrome Wheels
> Ive got 18lb Gewalts
(18x9) on the VR4 now, and theyve taken 10x the abuse the
> OZs did, and
are still perfectly round..this includes a number of pro-ralley and
>
ralley-cross events as well. $250/wheel I belive was what we paid.
Mag. alloy.
>
>
======================================================
I've been looking
at wheels also, and I've pretty much decided on 17" for my
open track
endeavors. The rationale being, that the 17s are $50 apiece cheaper
for
R compound tires. Over the life of the car/driver that can amount to a
considerable amount of money.
Are there reasons unbeknownst to me, that
could convince
me to go to 18" or 19" wheels.
BTW, where did
you get the Gewalts. I see Dazz has them but they are a
wholesale
house.
Jim Berry
PS. any comments or thoughts on the
RP01s ---- they are a 18# wheel also.
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Date:
Sun, 07 May 2000 22:13:10 -0400
From: Steve Lasher <
s_lasher@bellsouth.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Fwd: Mitsubishi VR-4 17" Chrome Wheels
Merritt
wrote:
>FWIW, I bought a set of beat-up 17-in. wheels from Arrow last
year for
$100
>each to use as race wheels, and they arrived in exactly
the condition
that
>Arrow described. They said that two were OK and two
needed rechroming,
and
>that's exactly what arrived.
$100
per wheel for 17"s? Would they by chance have any 18"s?
How do I
contact Arrow - do they have a web site? TiA
-
-Steve
'92 VR-4
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Date:
Sun, 07 May 2000 23:09:09 -0400
From: Joe Gonsowski <
twinturbo@mediaone.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Wheel selection? was (Mitsubishi VR-4 17" Chrome
Wheels)
Actually, the 18x9" Enkei RP01s are 21 lbs each. I
think I'm going with them since
this a considerable weight savings over my
narrower 18x8.5" OZ Monte Carlos @ 28 lbs
each. I thought the
RP01s were about the lightest thing out there.
After haggling for awhile,
I've gotten Discount Tire down to $190 each for the 18x9"
RP01s.
They also praised the durability of the Enkei wheels (may be feeding me
a
line).
I'm interested in hearing more about the Gewalts (pics and
prices). I want to make
sure I purchase the best 18" wheel based
on weight, durability, price, and then looks.
Joe Gonsowski
'92 R/T
TT
Jim Berry wrote:
> > Ive got 18lb Gewalts (18x9) on the
VR4 now, and theyve taken 10x the abuse the
> > OZs did, and are still
perfectly round..this includes a number of pro-ralley and
> >
ralley-cross events as well. $250/wheel I belive was what we paid.
Mag. alloy.
> >
> >
======================================================
>
> BTW,
where did you get the Gewalts. I see Dazz has them but they are a
>
wholesale house.
>
> Jim Berry
>
> PS.
any comments or thoughts on the RP01s ---- they are a 18# wheel
also.
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Date:
Sun, 7 May 2000 20:26:53 -0700
From: "Jim Berry" <
fastmax@home.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Wheel selection? was (Mitsubishi VR-4 17" Chrome Wheels)
>
Actually, the 18x9" Enkei RP01s are 21 lbs each. I think I'm going
with them since
> this a considerable weight savings over my narrower
18x8.5" OZ Monte Carlos @ 28 lbs
> each. I thought the RP01s
were about the lightest thing out there.
>
> After haggling for
awhile, I've gotten Discount Tire down to $190 each for the 18x9"
>
RP01s. They also praised the durability of the Enkei wheels (may be
feeding me a
> line).
>
> I'm interested in hearing more
about the Gewalts (pics and prices). I want to make
> sure I
purchase the best 18" wheel based on weight, durability, price, and then
looks.
If weight is indeed your priority then you should look at Volk
or Hart ---- the 17X9 Volk
TE37 weighs in at 15#. The downside is cost ---
about $500 each. They are supposed
to be designed for racing so durability
should be high ?!?!
Jim
Berry
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Date:
Mon, 8 May 2000 08:59:26 +0200
From: "R.G." <
robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Injector Recommendation
> What would you guy's recommend for a
GT Pro 386 Twin Turbo Upgrade. Would
I
> need 720's or can I use
550's. Thanks
First, the "upgrade" is not yet available
on the market and second, Brian
does know this at his best. As your engine
has a higher compression ratio,
you'll not be able to run more than 6 psi of
boost (latest calculations).
Therefore, the upgrade has probably somewhat too
large turbos although I
never heard of 386 turbos. For 6 psi of boost you can
use the stock VR4
injectors rated at 360cc.
> Chrome Painted Intake
Manifold
I never knew that chrome can be painted
!?
Roger
93'3000GT TT
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Date:
Mon, 8 May 2000 08:52:26 +0200
From: "R.G." <
robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: New Engine
> Thanks. I was figuring that the tension
didn't tighten fast enough at the
> belt skipped a few teeth. AKA
timing is off. You said this will not
damage
> the engine
right?...
If there was enough slippage ... all valves can be bent, the
cam scratched,
pistons / pinion damaged, etc. I got some heads where this
happend. Really
expensive !
Roger
93'3000GT
TT
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Date:
Mon, 8 May 2000 00:34:06 -0700
From: "Barry E. King" <
beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S:
Wheel selection? was (Mitsubishi VR-4 17" Chrome Wheels)
Actually,
be somewhat careful about assuming racing stuff is more durable,
especially
wheels.
High-end road-going wheels *typically* are stronger (more durable
in the
long-run) than the racing-only counterparts. While race wheels
must be able
to withstand the stresses of speeds not commonly found on the
street,
neither do they need to be designed to withstand potholes and curbs
or the
added weight of a street vehicle. Race gear is intended to be
replaced as
need be. Street gear is intended to last for some
reasonable period of time
under typical street use and abuse.
I am not
saying that the Volk wheels are not strong enough for the street
car, but in
general it isn't necessarily a safe assumption and investigation
is
required.
I watched a set of $1500 *each* magnesium road race wheels on a
motorcycle
grenade after the guy who had them decided he'd put them onto a
street bike.
Both wheels literally exploded within moments of each other
after he
encountered some severe road irregularities. They had worked
fine on the
track but the manufacturer had cautioned buyers to check them
regularly and
not run them on the street. This guy found out why the
hard way.
Fortunately he walked away with minor abrasions but had no recourse
with the
manufactuer.
Barry
> -----Original
Message-----
>
> > Actually, the 18x9" Enkei RP01s are 21
lbs each. I think I'm
> going with them since
> > this a
considerable weight savings over my narrower 18x8.5" OZ
> Monte
Carlos @ 28 lbs
> > each. I thought the RP01s were about the
lightest thing out there.
> >
> > After haggling for awhile,
I've gotten Discount Tire down to
> $190 each for the 18x9"
>
> RP01s. They also praised the durability of the Enkei wheels
>
(may be feeding me a
> > line).
> >
> > I'm
interested in hearing more about the Gewalts (pics and
> prices). I
want to make
> > sure I purchase the best 18" wheel based on
weight, durability,
> price, and then looks.
>
>
> If
weight is indeed your priority then you should look at Volk or
> Hart ----
the 17X9 Volk
> TE37 weighs in at 15#. The downside is cost --- about $500
each.
> They are supposed
> to be designed for racing so durability
should be high ?!?!
>
> Jim
Berry
>
>
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Date:
Mon, 8 May 2000 08:34:56 -0700
From: "Mohler, Jeff" <
jeff.mohler@netapp.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Fwd: Mitsubishi VR-4 17" Chrome Wheels
Got em from
www.carsmetics.com I think..
And as
far as 17 -vs- 18, unless you can get a really wide 17, no real reason
to
upgrade..unless you need larger brakes..etc.
What weight did $50/ea
get you? Acceleration is key.
- -----Original Message-----
From:
Jim Berry [
mailto:fastmax@home.com]
Sent: Sunday, May
07, 2000 5:11 PM
To: Mohler, Jeff; 'Merritt'; Dg B;
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st;
stealth@dragnet.comSubject: Re:
Team3S: Fwd: Mitsubishi VR-4 17" Chrome Wheels
> Ive got
18lb Gewalts (18x9) on the VR4 now, and theyve taken 10x the abuse the
>
OZs did, and are still perfectly round..this includes a number of
pro-ralley
and
> ralley-cross events as well. $250/wheel I belive
was what we paid. Mag.
alloy.
>
>
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I've been looking
at wheels also, and I've pretty much decided on 17" for my
open track
endeavors. The rationale being, that the 17s are $50 apiece cheaper
for
R compound tires. Over the life of the car/driver that can amount to a
considerable amount of money.
Are there reasons unbeknownst to me, that
could convince
me to go to 18" or 19" wheels.
BTW, where did
you get the Gewalts. I see Dazz has them but they are a
wholesale
house.
Jim Berry
PS. any comments or thoughts on the
RP01s ---- they are a 18# wheel also.
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