team3s              Thursday, May 4 2000              Volume 01 : Number 124




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Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 01:20:03 -0400
From: "John T. Christian" <jczoom@geocities.com>
Subject: Team3S: Re: DSM Shootout

Hi All,

I plan to be there on July 21 to regain my second place position.
Looking for worthy opponents.


Be of good cheer,
John

Matt Jannusch wrote:
>
> Considering there were only three of our cars there last year (Oskar's, Del's and mine), I HOPE there will be more of us!  Unfo
>
> http://www.buschurracing.com/shootout2000/classes.htm
>
>
>
- --
JCZoooM  93 TT 12.46@109Mph(5/97)
Now with Porsche brakes & Supra rotors &13G's
Email---> JCZooM@iname.com 
http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/flats/4538

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Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 11:53:04 -0400
From: "nketo" <nketo@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Team3S: racing gas questions

Hi everyone,

This is a question for all you racing gurus:
I would like to run on racing gas on the street from time to time.
My only concern is prolonged damage to components. (Ie. engine, O2 sensors,
etc.)

1)What are the pros and cons to using unleaded race gas, and
   leaded race gas?

Bear in mind that I've hollowed out my pre-cats, and main cat.

2)What type of boost can you run with each type of gas? (stock turbos and
fuel system)

Thanks in advance,

Noble



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Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 00:45:19 -0500
From: xwing <xwing@execpc.com>
Subject: Team3S: Re: racing gas questions

nketo wrote: [snips]

> I'd like to run race gas on the street sometimes.
> Concern is prolonged damage to components--engine, O2 sensors,
> 1)What are pros and cons of unleaded race gas

No cons except price!  Is available in 100 and 104 octane unleaded
from Sunoco and VP, I think Union 76 also.

>    leaded race gas?

Con:  lead will eventually poison the O2 sensors.  This doesn't
happen suddenly, it tends to be a slow process where the
responsiveness of the sensor is lost.  It will tend to_ read_
leaner and leaner, so your computer will tend to richen up
the mix to compensate for what it THINKS is lean but is
actually OK.  Then they stop responsiveness, the
swing from low-to-high-to-low etc.  OBD II tests for
O2 sensor responsiveness.
Con#2:  Price.

Pro:  Can run higher boost than 93 unleaded, and even more
than with 100/104 octane, such as if using boost AND nitrous.

> I've hollowed out pre-cats/main cat.
>  2)What boost can you run with each type gas? (stock turbos/
> fuel system)

- --93 octane with stock computer (knocksensor working) can
use 16 psi safely for longterm; 18 psi seems ok for short term; 20 psi
for drags if you're brave, but after 16 psi you start courting a cracked stock
piston due to detonation...
- --100/104 octane I think you can run 25 psi at drags no problems, which is
about all
any stock or common aftermarket turbo is going to produce anyway.  I would
tend to limit things to 20 psi on roadcourse...but if you can MAINTAIN
20 psi to 7000rpm on roadcourse you better have the biggest braking system
you can find to hotlap it continuously...I sure can't, yet, with the
Stillen/Brembo
setup in front on my 93, nor with nasty pads and the 94+ bigger stock brakes.
- --112-118 leaded do whatever you want, pretty much.
- --Water injection proponents have documented less knock=safer, with WI system.

Jack Tertadian



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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 00:28:26 -0700
From: "Chris Maxwell" <shmacker@home.com>
Subject: Team3S: Can 13G's hold 20psi up to redline?

About ready to get new turbos, but the question between getting 13G's or
15G's still is haunting me.  I'm leaning toward 13G's but I'd like them to
be able to hold boost up to 20psi till redline.  Can they do that or does
the boost fall off?  Also, what size injectors are needed for 20psi boost?
550s good enough?


Thanks again,
Chris Maxwell
92 R/T TT


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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 06:25:54 -0500
From: "Basol, John" <jbasol@Carlson.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Transmission removal

Yep, that'd be the passenger side drive axle alright!  :-)

There is a slight 'notch' on the inner CV joint (that green thing), where
you can kind of get a small pry bar or big screwdriver.  Apply as much
pressure as you can without slipping of the notch and scraping your knuckles
with one hand, and give some mighty tugs on the axle with the other hand.
It will take a fair amount of force to get it off.  There is some sort of
locking ring on the end of the drive axle.  When you put it back together
you will have to insert this side with some measure of force as well.  Good
Luck!

John Basol
'95 RT/TT



-----Original Message-----
From: John Monnin [SMTP:jkmonnin@altavista.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2000 9:22 PM
To: team3s-digest@mail.stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: Team3S: Transmission removal

After a computer upgrade I am back on the list with question.

I am pulling the engine on my 91 VR4 because of a bad rod knock.
Everthing has gone good so far but I can not seem to get the passenger side
driveshaft out of the transmission.   The owners manual shows the driveshaft
being removed as a unit from the trasmission including the big green tube
right next to trans.   I have the ball joints apart and I have tired prying
the green tube (I am not sure what to call it) but I am afraid to pry too
hard.

Any suggestions?

The drivers side driveshaft came out with only minor work but the
green cylinder was not right agains the transmission.   It is taking me a
long time to do the work because I am videotaping often so that I have some
clue as to how to put everything back together.

P.S.  I have a rebuilt engine on order from Japan,  The rebuild
company said that since it would take so long (I have already been waiting
two months) that when the engine arrived I would have the option of
accepting it or not.   Since I have since commited to rebuilding the current
engine I will let the list know when the engine arrives so that someone can
grad it if they need it.

John Monnin
91 Maroon 3000GT VR4
jkmonnin@altavista.com



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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 13:52:33 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@freesurf.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Can 13G's hold 20psi up to redline?

> About ready to get new turbos, but the question between getting 13G's or
> 15G's still is haunting me.  I'm leaning toward 13G's but I'd like them to
> be able to hold boost up to 20psi till redline.  Can they do that or does
> the boost fall off?

No, they are running out of steam pretty quick too. At 20psi the engine
flows about 790cfm of air.


> Also, what size injectors are needed for 20psi boost?
> 550s good enough?

Depends on how do you control detonation !!!!

Roger
93'3000GT TT



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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 09:12:08 EDT
From: Aso8@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Can 13G's hold 20psi up to redline?

Chris, go directly to the 15G's. There is no downside to using 15G Vs 13G.
Folks spoke about "Lag" but if you're using 550cc inj, increasing the boost,
hollowing out your cats THERE IS NO MORE LAG! If you don't do it now you will
be sorry later.
Turbos are a job you never want to do twice.
Just my .02
Arty 91 VR-4

<< Subj:     Team3S: Can 13G's hold 20psi up to redline?
From:  shmacker@home.com (Chris Maxwell)
Sender:    owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st

About ready to get new turbos, but the question between getting 13G's or
15G's still is haunting me. 

Thanks again,
Chris Maxwel

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Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 08:24:34 CDT
From: "Curt Gendron" <curt_gendron@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: racing gas questions

Thanks Jack...  You took the words right out of my mouth.  Water Injection
is like running with racing gas on the street.  Water Injection itself
doesn't really give you horsepower, but it lets you run 17-18psi of boost
every day.

Three of us MN 3/Sers have the Spearco unit.  John Basol has had it
installed for almost a year now.  And whoever comes to the Upper Midwest
Gathering in Wisconsin Dells can see all three systems at work. (how was
that for a plug?)

Curt
15 days til the UMG
UMG: http://www.mn3s.org/upper-midwest.html


>From: xwing <xwing@execpc.com>

>--Water injection proponents have documented less knock=safer, with WI
>system.
>
>Jack Tertadian
>
>

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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 10:12:36 EDT
From: Aso8@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: racing gas questions

Curt, I'm curious as to how long your water supply lasts driving around at
18lb boost & what size water tank do you have? On a road trip would you need
a water gauge for the supply tank :)
Arty 91 VR-4

In a message dated 5/4/00 6:25:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
curt_gendron@hotmail.com writes:

<< Subj:     Re: Team3S: Re: racing gas questions
Date:  5/4/00 6:25:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time
From:  curt_gendron@hotmail.com (Curt Gendron)
Sender:    owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
To:    Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st

Thanks Jack...  You took the words right out of my mouth.  Water Injection
is like running with racing gas on the street.  Water Injection itself
doesn't really give you horsepower, but it lets you run 17-18psi of boost
every day.

Three of us MN 3/Sers have the Spearco unit.  John Basol has had it
installed  >>

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Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 09:44:59 CDT
From: "Curt Gendron" <curt_gendron@hotmail.com>
Subject: Team3S: Water Injection (was: racing gas)

Hey Arty,

It depends a lot on your driving habits and the system you run.  I have the
Spearco unit, and it has a half gallon tank.  I check the water tank every
time I fill up or once a week or so.  I go through about a half a tank of
water every 200 miles of normal driving.  The system sprays whenever boost
is about 8psi.  So if you were track driving, you'd go through water a lot
quicker.

John Basol has the Spearco unit, but has a bigger pump.  His pump is an
actual fuel pump.  He goes through water a lot quicker.  With real agressive
driving, he can go through a tank of water in 50 miles.

If you were on a road trip, with normal driving, you could probably go 500
miles on a tank, since you wouldn't be boosting much.

John and I both use sticks to measure the water supply.  Actually, I use a 6
inch long piece of rubber vaccum tubing.

later,
Curt
Upper Midwest Gathering info: http://www.mn3s.org/upper-midwest.html


>From: Aso8@aol.com
>To: curt_gendron@hotmail.com, Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
>CC: Aso8@aol.com
>Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: racing gas questions
>Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 10:12:36 EDT
>
>Curt, I'm curious as to how long your water supply lasts driving around at
>18lb boost & what size water tank do you have? On a road trip would you
>need
>a water gauge for the supply tank :)
>Arty 91 VR-4
>

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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 10:08:02 -0500
From: Matt Jannusch <MAJ@BigCharts.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Water Injection (was: racing gas)

> John Basol has the Spearco unit, but has a bigger pump.  His pump is an
> actual fuel pump.  He goes through water a lot quicker.  With real agressive
> driving, he can go through a tank of water in 50 miles.

Yeah, but I think John's pumping way too much water into the cylinders.  You really don't need that much to prevent detonation.  The water displaces air/fuel mixture, so you don't want to over-do it and lose power, or short out the spark.

> John and I both use sticks to measure the water supply.  Actually, I use a 6
> inch long piece of rubber vaccum tubing.

I go through about half to 3/4 of a tank per tank of gas, so I just fill mine after I get home from getting gas.  My tank is mounted vertically (not the "best" way - with the small end up, but with the narrow-long end facing up/down) with the water feed to the pump in the bottom rear of the tank, so it isn't very susceptible to sloshing.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4
(Doin' the 15G's this weekend...  Ugh.)

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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 11:32:27 EDT
From: Aso8@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Water Injection (was: racing gas)

I'm a believer in the Water Inj too. I went with the Aquamist system instead
of the Sparco. When you pull in a gas station just say where is your garden
hose I need to filler up. Between the WI system, Nitrous, boost, ignition
system, VPC, GCC, AIC, extra injectors, plug gap etc can you imagine trying
to tune this car with no Dyno.
Forget a Tuner, I'll need to call a psychic  - grin
Arty 91 VR-4


<< Subj:     Team3S: Water Injection (was: racing gas)
Date:  5/4/00 7:45:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time
From:  curt_gendron@hotmail.com (Curt Gendron)
Sender:    owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
To:    Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Hey Arty,
It depends a lot on your driving habits and the system you run.  I have the
Spearco unit, and it has a half gallon tank.  I check the water tank every
time I fill up or once a week or so.  I go through about a half a tank of
water every 200 miles of normal driving.  The system sprays whenever boost
is about 8psi.  So if you were track driving, you'd go through water a lot
quicker.
John Basol has the Spearco unit, but has a bigger pump.  His pump is an
actual fuel pump.  He goes through water a lot quicker.  With real agressive
driving, he can go through a tank of water in 50 miles.
If you were on a road trip, with normal driving, you could probably go 500
miles on a tank, since you wouldn't be boosting much.
John and I both use sticks to measure the water supply.  Actually, I use a 6
inch long piece of rubber vaccum tubing.
Curt
>Curt, I'm curious as to how long your water supply lasts driving around at
>18lb boost & what size water tank do you have? On a road trip would you
>need
>a water gauge for the supply tank :)
>Arty 91 VR-4
> >>

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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 10:38:18 -0500
From: Matt Jannusch <MAJ@BigCharts.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Water Injection (was: racing gas)

> When you pull in a gas station just say where is your garden
> hose I need to filler up. Between the WI system, Nitrous,
> boost, ignition system, VPC, GCC, AIC, extra injectors, plug
> gap etc can you imagine trying to tune this car with no Dyno.
> Forget a Tuner, I'll need to call a psychic  - grin

Ooooh!  Don't run anything less than distilled water through there...  If you run "tap water" through there, the combustion process will flash-bake the impurities in the water onto your pistons/cylinders/valves.  (Or maybe you were joking...  :-)

I hear you on the tuning aspects...  :-)

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 11:59:58 CDT
From: "Curt Gendron" <curt_gendron@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Water Injection (was: racing gas)

Matt is right.  You don't want to use tap water in your WI system.  Only
distilled water.  Not only will you bake the cylinders, all those impurities
will eventually clog your WI system.  The nozzle that sprays is the size of
a pin hole.

I actually use a distilled water and rubbing alcohol mix. About 60/40 split.

So.....  If you make it to the Upper Midwest Gathering, Matt's, John's and
my water injection systems will be on display. ;) (another shameless plug)

later,
Curt
UMG info: http://www.mn3s.org/upper-midwest.html

>From: Matt Jannusch <MAJ@BigCharts.com>
>
>Ooooh!  Don't run anything less than distilled water through there...  If
>you run "tap water" through there, the combustion process will flash-bake
>the impurities in the water onto your pistons/cylinders/valves.  (Or maybe
>you were joking...  :-)
>
>I hear you on the tuning aspects...  :-)
>
>-Matt
>'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 11:31:06 -0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Team3S: Admin NOTICE: Virus Alert!

Hey, Team...

I've checked this out and it IS genuine -  verified on the MaAfee and
Microsoft websites.  Thanks to Team3S member Joe Scholtz for bringing
it to our attention!

DO NOT open email entitled I LOVE YOU (or variant).  It has a VB
script  virus that will run automatically in Microsoft Email Programs
like Outlook and Outlook Express when you open it  to read it. The
email will have a file attached called >>> LOVE-LETTER-FOR-YOU.TXT.vbs
<<<, which is the Visual Basic Script Virus.  It appears to be a
variant of a Melissa type virus, with a twist.  DO NOT OPEN the e-mail
or the attachment.  Delete immediately!!!

People who do not use Microsoft email programs should not open the
attachment and everyone should delete this email.  Please visit the
McAfee site www.McAfee.com or email me *privately* for further
details.  No discussion on the list, please.  It's a virus.  Stay away
from it.  Over and out...

Best,

Bob Forrest
for the Admin






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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 12:07:03 -0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Team3S: Admin NOTICE2: Virus Alert!  AP release...

Thanks to Yasuna Murakami for sending this to me for the Team3S list:

Forrest
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By Bruce Meyerson,
Associated Press, 05/04/2000
A new computer virus spread quickly around the world today, swamping
U.S. corporate networks with e-mails entitled "ILOVEYOU" after
crippling government and business computers in Asia and Europe.
Experts said they were stunned by the speed and wide reach of the
virus - which struck members of U.S. Congress and British parliament -
and warned computer users not to open the "LOVELETTER" attachment that
comes with the contaminated e-mail.
"It appears to be the same sort of class of virus as Melissa," the
e-mail virus that crippled computer systems around the world about a
year ago, said Bill Pollack, spokesman for the CERT Coordination
Center in Pittsburgh, a government-chartered computer security team.
But, Pollack cautioned, "there are other ways that it spreads in
addition to e-mail and that's what we're looking into now."

Computer administrators at Ottawa-based Cognos Inc. (Nasdaq: COGN)
shut down the company's entire e-mail network as a precaution after
the virus was detected in a company office in the Netherlands early
this morning.  The company, which makes front-end software to access
databases, employs 2,200 people in 60 countries around the world,
including Burlington, Mass., where its U.S. sales headquarters is
based. None of its employees were able
to send e-mail today. "Everyone I have talked to has it," said Cognos
public relations director Roberta Carlton. "Someone at our agency got
it and they said it crashed their hard drive. That's about as bad as
it gets." Cognos, on the Web at www.cognos.com, received a fix for the
virus from Trend Micro and is testing it on their internal mail
network. Carlton said Cognos administrators are also blocking a URL
from their servers. The virus apparently downloads a file from the Web
address after the mail attachment is opened.

Carlton warned that the virus can damage the address book in Outlook E
xpress.  Carlton said few company workstations were damaged, and that
their customer support relationships with partners such as Microsoft
and SAP were being handled over the phone.  The virus also infected
New Hampshire's state government computer system.
Jim Van Dongen, spokesman at the state Office of Emergency Management,
said the message shut down the e-mail system in his agency. He said it
also spread throughout the state system.  Van Dongen said he had not
heard about the virus and when he got to work this morning he opened a
message that quickly spread the virus to everyone in his computer
address book, including reporters and emergency officials around the
state.  He said the Emergency Management e-mail system was overwhelmed
and shut down within 20 minutes.

According to a virus tracking system at the Web site of Japanese
computer security firm Trend Micro, more than 120,000 computers were
said to be infected in the United States by midmorning, up from less
than 20,000 just
an hour before. Trend Micro's Web site, www.trendmicro.com, was
inaccessible today, apparently swamped by users seeking information
about the virus.

In Britain, about 30 percent of company e-mail systems were brought
down by the virus, according to Network Associates, another computer
security firm.  In Sweden, the tally was 80 percent.  Much like
Melissa, the "love bug" spreads by infiltrating a computer user's
address book and sending copies of itself to that person's contacts.
However, the new virus also seemed to be using instant messaging or
"Internet chat" systems such as ICQ to spread, Computer Associates
reported.  The virus appeared in Hong Kong late in the afternoon,
spreading throughout e-mail systems once a user opened one of the
contaminated messages. It later moved into European parliamentary
houses and through the high-tech systems of big companies and
financial traders.  "I have to tell you that, sadly, this affectionate
greeting contains a virus which has immobilized the House's internal
communication system," said Margaret Beckett, leader of Britain's
House of Commons. "This means that no member can receive e-mails from
outside, nor indeed can we communicate with each other by e-mail."  In
the United States, the "love bug" shut down the Florida Lottery Web
site and e-mail system, said lottery spokesman Leo DiBenigno. In Asia,
Dow Jones Newswires and the Asian Wall Street Journal were among the
victims. The bug affected only e-mail and did not prevent Dow Jones
Newswires from distributing financial information to traders. The
Asian Wall Street Journal would have no problems publishing, officials
there said.  But the e-mail systems went wild.  "It crashed all the
computers," said Daphne Ghesquiere, a Dow Jones spokeswoman in Hong
Kong. "You get the message and the topic says ILOVEYOU, and I was
among the stupid ones to open it. I got about five at one time and I
was suspicious, but one was from Dow Jones Newswires, so I opened it."
Once the message was opened, Ghesquiere said, it began sending the
virus to other e-mail addresses within the Dow Jones computers,
blocking people's ability to send and receive e-mail. Victims
sometimes received dozens of e-mails, all contaminated.  "I have no
idea how it got through the firewall," Ghesquiere said. "It's supposed
to be protected."

The virus downloads files from a Web site registered to a company in
the Phillipines. The Web site is hosted by Sky Internet, Inc., located
in Qezon. The company could not be reached by phone or on the
Internet. The virus posed its biggest threat to corporate users,
because it apparently had the ability to spread to the first 300
e-mail addresses in affected accounts, virus expert Ross Wilson said.
"It's not pretty," said Wilson, the Singapore-based Southeast Asia
director of Symantec, a U.S.-based company that makes anti-virus
software. "It's got the capability of spreading very, very quickly."
In Denmark, the parliament, telecom company Tele Danmark, channel TV2
and the Environment and Energy Ministry were all affected starting
this morning.  "We have no clue how it got in," said Hugo Praestegaard
of the Environment and Energy Ministry.  The virus hit the Swiss
federal government computer network late in the
morning, said Claudio Frigerio of the Federal Office for Information
Technology in Bern. The system was switched off immediately to stop
the virus from spreading.  Bank, hospital and national television
e-mail networks in Switzerland were also affected, Frigerio said.

- -Eddie Medina, Boston.com Staff, contributed to this report.




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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 13:52:11 -0700
From: "Gross, Erik" <erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: Team3S: General Engine Question

Quick general engine question:

What would one need to examine after accidentally dropping a disconnected
spark plug wire (plug end) with the engine on, having it touch metal, ground
out, and stop the engine?  It grounded out through the insulator, so I'm
guessing that wire is shot and will replace it.

This happens not to be on my 3000GT (whew), but may be useful general info -
if not, please reply to me privately if you have any suggestions.  This
engine is a FI I4 with a distributor/rotor('94 Corolla). 

I'm replacing the plugs anyway, I have new wires, distributor cap, rotor,
battery (it blew up...literally).   I cleaned the car up and neutralized all
the acid I could find.  The car runs now (nothing replaced but the battery,
but it's rough and frequently misses.   My plan is to try the following
order:  plug wires and plugs, distributor cap/rotor, and if neither of those
work, replace the distributor.

Thanks for your help, and I hope this isn't too far off topic:)

- --Erik

- ------                                             ----------
Erik Gross                                         DuPont, WA
'95 Pearl White 3000GT (NA, DOHC, 5-speed)          70,000 mi
Firestone Firehawk 245/50/ZR16 tires, stock wheels
Magnacor KV85 spark plug wires, NGK plugs @ 0.040"
K&N FIPK (57-1500), resonator bye-bye
Mobil 1 10W30 Synthetic w/ OEM oil filter
***No more ticking lash adjusters(07/99)!  Treated with GM 
   EOS, BG 44K FI cleaner. Change oil/filter every 3000mi ***
'94 Algae Blue Corolla, blew up the battery last night...
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Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 17:42:33 -0400
From: Mark <pagan@siscom.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: racing gas questions

FWIW I have converted my windshield washer tank to be the tank for my WI.
I also have the spearco unit, but I have fashioned a top that makes the
windshield washer tank air tight and use it as the water tank.  It is
bigger than the tank that comes with the spearco unit and it has a sensor
built right in :).  The stock pump is on the outside of the bottle and is a
flow through type, so I just use that part of the bottle to feed my pump
and I tapped pressure at the top of the neck.  Works great and my dash
tells me when I'm out.

:)

Mark
'93 R/T TT
(peaking 1.27kg/cm^2 in 3rd gear with no knock on pump gas)

At 10:12 AM 5/4/00 -0400, Aso8@aol.com wrote:
>Curt, I'm curious as to how long your water supply lasts driving around at
>18lb boost & what size water tank do you have? On a road trip would you need
>a water gauge for the supply tank :)
>Arty 91 VR-4
>
>In a message dated 5/4/00 6:25:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
>curt_gendron@hotmail.com writes:
>
><< Subj:     Re: Team3S: Re: racing gas questions
> Date:  5/4/00 6:25:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time
> From:  curt_gendron@hotmail.com (Curt Gendron)
> Sender:    owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
> To:    Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
>
> Thanks Jack...  You took the words right out of my mouth.  Water Injection
> is like running with racing gas on the street.  Water Injection itself
> doesn't really give you horsepower, but it lets you run 17-18psi of boost
> every day.
>
> Three of us MN 3/Sers have the Spearco unit.  John Basol has had it
> installed  >>
>
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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 14:24:06 -0700
From: "Mohler, Jeff" <jeff.mohler@netapp.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Re: racing gas questions

Where are you guys plumbin in the injector for WI?

I have a kit, will install on VR4 instead of Supra.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Curt Gendron [mailto:curt_gendron@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 6:25 AM
To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: racing gas questions


Thanks Jack...  You took the words right out of my mouth.  Water Injection
is like running with racing gas on the street.  Water Injection itself
doesn't really give you horsepower, but it lets you run 17-18psi of boost
every day.

Three of us MN 3/Sers have the Spearco unit.  John Basol has had it
installed for almost a year now.  And whoever comes to the Upper Midwest
Gathering in Wisconsin Dells can see all three systems at work. (how was
that for a plug?)

Curt
15 days til the UMG
UMG: http://www.mn3s.org/upper-midwest.html


>From: xwing <xwing@execpc.com>

>--Water injection proponents have documented less knock=safer, with WI
>system.
>
>Jack Tertadian
>
>

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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 14:43:55 -0700
From: "Mohler, Jeff" <jeff.mohler@netapp.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: General Engine Question

Did it restart?  You didnt say.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Gross, Erik [mailto:erik.gross@intel.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 1:52 PM
To: 'Team3S List'
Subject: Team3S: General Engine Question


Quick general engine question:

What would one need to examine after accidentally dropping a disconnected
spark plug wire (plug end) with the engine on, having it touch metal, ground
out, and stop the engine?  It grounded out through the insulator, so I'm
guessing that wire is shot and will replace it.

This happens not to be on my 3000GT (whew), but may be useful general info -
if not, please reply to me privately if you have any suggestions.  This
engine is a FI I4 with a distributor/rotor('94 Corolla). 

I'm replacing the plugs anyway, I have new wires, distributor cap, rotor,
battery (it blew up...literally).   I cleaned the car up and neutralized all
the acid I could find.  The car runs now (nothing replaced but the battery,
but it's rough and frequently misses.   My plan is to try the following
order:  plug wires and plugs, distributor cap/rotor, and if neither of those
work, replace the distributor.

Thanks for your help, and I hope this isn't too far off topic:)

- --Erik

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Erik Gross                                         DuPont, WA
'95 Pearl White 3000GT (NA, DOHC, 5-speed)          70,000 mi
Firestone Firehawk 245/50/ZR16 tires, stock wheels
Magnacor KV85 spark plug wires, NGK plugs @ 0.040"
K&N FIPK (57-1500), resonator bye-bye
Mobil 1 10W30 Synthetic w/ OEM oil filter
***No more ticking lash adjusters(07/99)!  Treated with GM 
   EOS, BG 44K FI cleaner. Change oil/filter every 3000mi ***
'94 Algae Blue Corolla, blew up the battery last night...
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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 17:31:50 -0500
From: Matt Jannusch <MAJ@BigCharts.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Re: racing gas questions

> Where are you guys plumbin in the injector for WI?

I plumbed the pressure feed and injector about one inch past the blowoff valve output on the Y-pipe between the BOV and the throttle body so that water couldn't get injected into the BOV.  I put the injector about straight-on with the side of the Y-pipe (line running horizontal to the ground) and the pressure feed line about 1" down on the Y-pipe underneath the water injector.  Works great.  For the pressure switch line you can tap off of the BOV line from the throttle body (I have a separate tap on the driver's side end of the intake manifold that I used for my boost controller for the pressure switch line).

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 16:45:40 -0700
From: "Gross, Erik" <erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: General Engine Question

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mohler, Jeff [mailto:jeff.mohler@netapp.com]
>
> Did it restart?  You didnt say.
>

Yeah the car starts, and runs ok some of the time.  About 50% of the time,
it idles rough, misses/stumbles under high load (high gear, low RPM), and
seems to be lacking some power in the high-RPM range (doesn't pull very hard
at the top end and it gives a good kick upon upshifting when floored).  It's
an automatic, BTW.

- --Erik


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gross, Erik [mailto:erik.gross@intel.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 1:52 PM
> To: 'Team3S List'
> Subject: Team3S: General Engine Question
>
>
> Quick general engine question:
>
> What would one need to examine after accidentally dropping a
> disconnected
> spark plug wire (plug end) with the engine on, having it
> touch metal, ground
> out, and stop the engine?  It grounded out through the
> insulator, so I'm
> guessing that wire is shot and will replace it.
>
> This happens not to be on my 3000GT (whew), but may be useful
> general info -
> if not, please reply to me privately if you have any
> suggestions.  This
> engine is a FI I4 with a distributor/rotor('94 Corolla). 
>
> I'm replacing the plugs anyway, I have new wires, distributor
> cap, rotor,
> battery (it blew up...literally).   I cleaned the car up and
> neutralized all
> the acid I could find.  The car runs now (nothing replaced
> but the battery,
> but it's rough and frequently misses.   My plan is to try the
> following
> order:  plug wires and plugs, distributor cap/rotor, and if
> neither of those
> work, replace the distributor.
>


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Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 19:21:10 -0500
From: Trevor James <trevor@kscable.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: racing gas questions

Where do you guys get distilled water from?

Trevor
96 R/T TT
92 GMC Typhoon

Matt Jannusch wrote:

> > Where are you guys plumbin in the injector for WI?
>
> I plumbed the pressure feed and injector about one inch past the blowoff valve output on the Y-pipe between the BOV and the throttle body so that water couldn't get injected into the BOV.  I put the injector about straight-on with the side of the Y-pipe (line running horizontal to the ground) and the pressure feed line about 1" down on the Y-pipe underneath the water injector.  Works great.  For the pressure switch line you can tap off of the BOV line from the throttle body (I have a separate tap on the driver's side end of the intake manifold that I used for my boost controller for the pressure switch line).
>
> -Matt
> '95 3000GT Spyder VR4
>
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Date: Thu, 4 May 2000 17:37:01 -0700
From: "Mohler, Jeff" <jeff.mohler@netapp.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Re: racing gas questions

But..isnt all of that plastic?  Just wondering on the stability of that.

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From: Matt Jannusch [mailto:MAJ@BigCharts.com]
Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2000 3:32 PM
To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: RE: Team3S: Re: racing gas questions


> Where are you guys plumbin in the injector for WI?

I plumbed the pressure feed and injector about one inch past the blowoff valve
output on the Y-pipe between the BOV and the throttle body so that water
couldn't get injected into the BOV.  I put the injector about straight-on with
the side of the Y-pipe (line running horizontal to the ground) and the pressure
feed line about 1" down on the Y-pipe underneath the water injector.  Works
great.  For the pressure switch line you can tap off of the BOV line from the
throttle body (I have a separate tap on the driver's side end of the intake
manifold that I used for my boost controller for the pressure switch line).

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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