team3s
Sunday, April 23
2000
Volume 01 : Number
114
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Date:
Fri, 21 Apr 2000 17:03:47 -0400
From: Ken Stanton <
ken.c.stanton@usa.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Bad Drivetrain vibration
Hello All,
I have a very recently
developing vibration I'm experiencing - it only
occurs while on the gas,
whether in gear (clutch out) or not. It is
most noticeable in 5th at
highway speeds, and seems to be
self-resonating (very low frequency sound
that has 'fighting' vibrations
within it). I'm worried it is drivetrain
as it sounds as if it is
coming from the rear drive shaft area, but also note
that I have _just_
replaced my Getrag and Clutch!
Any and all suggestions
more than appreciated!!
Ken Stanton
'91 Pearl White RT/TT
K&N,
Snake Eyes, Plates 007KEN
BRAND NEW (reman) Getrag from MD
Auto
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Date:
Sat, 22 Apr 2000 03:32:02 -0500
From: "Jeff" <
spydervr4@home.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: analyzer
Make sure you're using the Multi-1 connector and that
you jumper the pins
that it tells you to. I had the same problem the
first time I tried to use
it on my Eclipse because I was using the wrong
connector, that happened to
also fit the data port
perfectly.
jeff
'95 Mitsubishi Spyder VR-4
'90 Mitsubishi Eclipse
GSX
- ----- Original Message -----
From: "CHUCK LOBRANO"
<
ANECTINE@DigiScape.com>
To:
<
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Wednesday, April 19, 2000 8:37 PM
Subject: Team3S:
analyzer
>
> I have a Snap-on [MT2500]analyzer that I am
trying to use on my 91
stealth.
> It accept the input info but then
read "no communications" Any suggestions
> on how to use it with
my car would be appreciated.
> Thanks
> ChuckLobrano 91 r/t
t/t
>
>
>
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Date:
Sat, 22 Apr 2000 09:28:00 -0400
From: "Bob_Rand" <
Bob_Rand@msn.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Bad Drivetrain vibration
Ken, It sounds like your flywheel and clutch
might be out of balance.
Bob
93 Stealth TT
- ----- Original Message
-----
From: Ken Stanton <
ken.c.stanton@usa.net>
To: Team3S
Stealth <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>; Starnet
Stealth
<
stealth@starnet.net>
Sent: Friday,
April 21, 2000 5:03 PM
Subject: Team3S: Bad Drivetrain
vibration
> Hello All,
>
> I have a very recently
developing vibration I'm experiencing - it only
> occurs while on the gas,
whether in gear (clutch out) or not. It is
> most noticeable in 5th
at highway speeds, and seems to be
> self-resonating (very low frequency
sound that has 'fighting' vibrations
> within it). I'm worried it is
drivetrain as it sounds as if it is
> coming from the rear drive shaft
area, but also note that I have _just_
> replaced my Getrag and
Clutch!
> Any and all suggestions more than appreciated!!
>
>
Ken Stanton
> '91 Pearl White RT/TT
> K&N, Snake Eyes, Plates
007KEN
> BRAND NEW (reman) Getrag from MD Auto
>
>
>
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>
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Date:
Sat, 22 Apr 2000 09:45:22 EDT
From:
TrboDrvr@aol.comSubject: Re: Team3S:
Trailer hitch
What's wrong with that? A "racecar" pulling
a trailer? That's as bad as
Porche coming out with an SUV. (and
they are, so I guess anything's
possible). Besides the fact that the
service manual says don't do it.
Besides the fact that it will absolutely,
positively void your powertrain
warranty. Besides the fact that
pulling a trailer with an all wheel steering
car is dangerous. Besides
the fact that pulling a trailer with a 300+
horsepower turbocharged
sports-car is dangerous. And besides the fact that
the Getrag trannies
and transfer cases were definitely NOT designed for
towing a trailer, I'm
all out of "what's wrong with thats." Except for this
one. Don't get in an accident pulling it because it will be your
fault.
Take it from me. I have been practicing law for over 6
years from the
defense side.
I don't doubt that
people do it and I apologize if my post sounds a
little surprised. It's just
that for the couple years that I have been on
this list, and since I have
owned my Stealth TT, I have never heard of anyone
pulling a trailer with
one, especially since it is no secret that the
trannies in our machines are
junk. Out of curiosity, did you ever have to
replace yours?
Joe
91TT
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Date:
Sat, 22 Apr 2000 15:54:06 +0100
From: "Martin" <
martin@star.co.uk>
Subject: Team3S:
Turbo timer help
Hi All
I have just purchased ny very first 3000 GTO
yesterday and am still trying
to get used to everything.
A couple a things
i am not sure about as i have no documantation at all.
There is some kind of
aftermarket small unit that had been added to the car
that i would like to
use.
It has no name on it but appears to be a turbo timer with some
other
features such as a programmable starter.
Here is how it looks on the
display.
___________________________________________________________________
POWER
turbo
prog1
auto/manual
standby1
clock
prog2
TEST
standby2
tacho
auto
MODE
w/st
m.h set
m.s.d igb
cd
____________________________________________________________________
Does
anyone recognise this display? and if so do they have any instructions
on how
to use it?
I think i have got the hang of the turbo timer side of it, but i
don't have
a clue on how to set the timer to start the
car, it has a
twenty four hour clock built into it so i presume you could
set it to start
the car in the morning for you before you go to work which
is what i would
like to use it for.
Thanks in Advance
Martin
Berkley
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Date:
Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:33:42 -0400
From: "John T. Christian" <
jczoom@geocities.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Trailer hitch
Hey Joe,
The tough part is controlling a 6
wheel drift at 80MPH on the turnpike
entrance ramps.....
And one must
replace the original bearings with Timken Isoclass part
#30205M 9\KM1
if one exceeds the rated speed. Here's hoping the Timken
bearings can
withstand the occassional bursts over 100 MPH.
Be of good
cheer
John
TrboDrvr@aol.com
wrote:
>
> Pulling a trailer with a TT? You gotta be kidding
me? While the rest of us
> are desperately trying to keep our
trannies and transfer cases in one piece,
> others are out pulling
trailers. Geez.
>
> Joe 91TT
- --
JCZoooM 93
TT 12.46@109Mph Now with Porsche brakes & Supra
rotors
Email--->
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Date:
Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:38:06 -0400
From: "John T. Christian" <
jczoom@geocities.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: dyno test
Hi Oleg,
I recently ordered the Home-dyno after
reading Dave Allison's write up
on our 3S website.
http://www.stealth-3000gt.st/FAQhomedyno.htmThe
software is installed, but I haven't modified my inductive pickup
yet.
I'll let you know how it works and how well it repeats
xxxx's
findings.
I bought it to try to establish benchmarks for
various combinations of
mods and to see if how HP changes with increasing
boost levels. Also
to see if my clutch is slipping.
Be of
good cheer
John
Oleg-Telia wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Have anyone ever heard/used the device called
Home Dyno
>
http://www.charm.net/~mchaney/homedyno/dynokit.htm#digirecorder?
>
Any results and comments?
>
> Oleg,
>
www.3000gt.lv>
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--
JCZoooM 93 TT 12.46@109Mph Now with Porsche brakes
& Supra rotors
Email--->
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Date:
Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:38:26 -0400
From: "John T. Christian" <
jczoom@geocities.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: 13g's cost?
Hi Goeff,
Paid $1477.98 for 13G's from Tec
last 6/99. 1 800 950-TURBO JimL
Put them in
myself.
IMHO they are enough for road course events. I
didn't want lag, or
have to spend $$$$$ for boost/fuel management, injectors,
pumps, etc.
Still running manual boost control and happy.
Be of good
cheer
John
Geoff Mohler wrote:
>
> Anyone know what I'll
pay for 13g's?
>
> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . .
- --
JCZoooM 93 TT 12.46@109Mph
Now with Porsche brakes & Supra rotors
Email--->
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Date:
Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:59:00 -0400
From: Steve Lasher <
s_lasher@bellsouth.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Trailer hitch
Joe,
Pulling a trailer may void the
warranty, but guess what? So will driving the car
over 60,000 miles or
for longer than 5 years. Call me crazy, but I've been
driving mine for
over 8 years now. I guess I just live on the edge.
Steve
'92
VR-4
TrboDrvr@aol.com
wrote:
> What's wrong with that? A "racecar" pulling a
trailer? That's as bad as
> Porche coming out with an SUV.
(and they are, so I guess anything's
> possible). Besides the fact
that the service manual says don't do it.
> Besides the fact that it will
absolutely, positively void your powertrain
> warranty. Besides the
fact that pulling a trailer with an all wheel steering
> car is
dangerous. Besides the fact that pulling a trailer with a 300+
>
horsepower turbocharged sports-car is dangerous. And besides the fact
that
> the Getrag trannies and transfer cases were definitely NOT designed
for
> towing a trailer, I'm all out of "what's wrong with
thats." Except for this
> one. Don't get in an accident
pulling it because it will be your fault.
> Take it from me. I have
been practicing law for over 6 years from the
> defense
side.
>
> I don't doubt that people do it
and I apologize if my post sounds a
> little surprised. It's just that for
the couple years that I have been on
> this list, and since I have owned
my Stealth TT, I have never heard of anyone
> pulling a trailer with one,
especially since it is no secret that the
> trannies in our machines are
junk. Out of curiosity, did you ever have to
> replace
yours?
>
> Joe 91TT
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Date:
Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:19:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: 13g's cost?
Well..what Im doing is upgrading the VR4 turbos
this coming week..and I
need to choose between the turbonetics upgrade (small
upgrade) or 13s.
I think I want the Tnetics one, because it will keep my
lag to a
minimum..and this will NOT be a dragstrip car. Full AutoX,
which I will
need the lowest lag possible, but only a little more breathing
room than
the stock spinners because you dont ever get much free run space in
an
autox.
This car will be lightened about 1000# this coming
fall/winter as
well...so the torque/HP gains from even a small upgrade will
become
significant when you add it all together.
. . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
1995 Mitsu.
VR4
Plate: SPDTOY 2* 13.2@107
2000 Celica
GT-S
Plate: SPDTOY 3* 14.9@96Mph
1987 Supra
Turbo
Plate: SPDTOY 1* 13.38@104Mph
-
---------------------------------------------------
K&N FIPK,Spearco
IC,APEXi N1 Exhaust*,Custom Hardpipe Kit,Walbro Fuel Pump,
Custom
Aluminum-Alloy Flywheel,RC 3mm Overbore Throttle Body,
Mueller Lightweight
Driveshaft*,HKS Downpipe*Lightweight Main Pulley**,
Full Redline Synthetic
Oils & WW,AEM Cam Gear (Intake)*,Dave Hall AFPR,
Greddy Type-S
BOV,Lightewight 16x8" Racing Wheels,HKS FCD,Greddy EGT Guage,
ST Swaybar
Set,Eibach Pro Spring Set,Tokico-II TEMS Struts,
APEXi (new) AVC-R,Broward
Dual-Friction Clutch*,BM150 Electric Fan
Porterfield Heat/Cryo treated
Rotors, crossdrilled*,Porterfield R4-S Pads*,
Full DOT 5.1 Brake
fluid,Goodridge SS Brake lines,Dunlop SP8000 tires.
Yes..all this on a stock
HG too @75-80lbs..I ferget.
+++
* On order
** Being
developed
On Fri, 21 Apr 2000, Barry E. King wrote:
>
No.
>
> But, last I checked on 13Gs they could be had for $650
ea. I paid $1300 for
> a pair of 15Gs a few years back.
>
> I also see places asking $1500+ for them.
>
>
>
Barry
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
>
>
> > Anyone know what I'll pay for 13g's?
>
>
>
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Date:
Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:24:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Trailer hitch
Nope.
Bad trannies commonly are the
result of bad drivers. (Man im gonna catch
hell for that one)..but in
our YEARS of racing our Stealth TT and VR4
cars..racing has not been a factor
in tranny death. Clutches ya *grin*.
But like anything else, if you
havent prepared a vehecle the best you can
for heavy duty use, and use your
brains (not your balls) in how you drive
the vehicle..you will have few
problems.
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Date:
Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:26:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Trailer hitch
John:
I put in a really oversized axle
in the trailer I built, and I recall
driving from St Louis to Tulsa one
evening having the cruise set to about
110 or so thru most of the
mind-numbing parts.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . .
1995 Mitsu.
VR4
Plate: SPDTOY 2* 13.2@107
2000 Celica
GT-S
Plate: SPDTOY 3* 14.9@96Mph
1987 Supra
Turbo
Plate: SPDTOY 1* 13.38@104Mph
-
---------------------------------------------------
K&N FIPK,Spearco
IC,APEXi N1 Exhaust*,Custom Hardpipe Kit,Walbro Fuel Pump,
Custom
Aluminum-Alloy Flywheel,RC 3mm Overbore Throttle Body,
Mueller Lightweight
Driveshaft*,HKS Downpipe*Lightweight Main Pulley**,
Full Redline Synthetic
Oils & WW,AEM Cam Gear (Intake)*,Dave Hall AFPR,
Greddy Type-S
BOV,Lightewight 16x8" Racing Wheels,HKS FCD,Greddy EGT Guage,
ST Swaybar
Set,Eibach Pro Spring Set,Tokico-II TEMS Struts,
APEXi (new) AVC-R,Broward
Dual-Friction Clutch*,BM150 Electric Fan
Porterfield Heat/Cryo treated
Rotors, crossdrilled*,Porterfield R4-S Pads*,
Full DOT 5.1 Brake
fluid,Goodridge SS Brake lines,Dunlop SP8000 tires.
Yes..all this on a stock
HG too @75-80lbs..I ferget.
+++
* On order
** Being
developed
On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, John T. Christian wrote:
> Hey
Joe,
>
> The tough part is controlling a 6 wheel drift at 80MPH on
the turnpike
> entrance ramps.....
>
> And one must replace
the original bearings with Timken Isoclass part
> #30205M 9\KM1 if
one exceeds the rated speed. Here's hoping the Timken
> bearings can
withstand the occassional bursts over 100 MPH.
>
> Be of good
cheer
> John
>
>
TrboDrvr@aol.com wrote:
> >
>
> Pulling a trailer with a TT? You gotta be kidding me? While the
rest of us
> > are desperately trying to keep our trannies and transfer
cases in one piece,
> > others are out pulling trailers.
Geez.
> >
> > Joe 91TT
>
> --
>
JCZoooM 93 TT 12.46@109Mph Now with Porsche brakes & Supra
rotors
> Email--->
JCZooM@iname.com >
http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/flats/4538>
> ***Info:
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>
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Date:
Sat, 22 Apr 2000 10:26:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: 13g's cost?
John: These wont be for road course events,
EM AutoX is the goal.
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . . . . .
1995 Mitsu.
VR4
Plate: SPDTOY 2* 13.2@107
2000 Celica
GT-S
Plate: SPDTOY 3* 14.9@96Mph
1987 Supra
Turbo
Plate: SPDTOY 1* 13.38@104Mph
-
---------------------------------------------------
K&N FIPK,Spearco
IC,APEXi N1 Exhaust*,Custom Hardpipe Kit,Walbro Fuel Pump,
Custom
Aluminum-Alloy Flywheel,RC 3mm Overbore Throttle Body,
Mueller Lightweight
Driveshaft*,HKS Downpipe*Lightweight Main Pulley**,
Full Redline Synthetic
Oils & WW,AEM Cam Gear (Intake)*,Dave Hall AFPR,
Greddy Type-S
BOV,Lightewight 16x8" Racing Wheels,HKS FCD,Greddy EGT Guage,
ST Swaybar
Set,Eibach Pro Spring Set,Tokico-II TEMS Struts,
APEXi (new) AVC-R,Broward
Dual-Friction Clutch*,BM150 Electric Fan
Porterfield Heat/Cryo treated
Rotors, crossdrilled*,Porterfield R4-S Pads*,
Full DOT 5.1 Brake
fluid,Goodridge SS Brake lines,Dunlop SP8000 tires.
Yes..all this on a stock
HG too @75-80lbs..I ferget.
+++
* On order
** Being
developed
On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, John T. Christian wrote:
> Hi
Goeff,
>
> Paid $1477.98 for 13G's from Tec last 6/99.
1 800 950-TURBO JimL
> Put them in myself.
>
> IMHO they are enough for road course events. I didn't
want lag, or
> have to spend $$$$$ for boost/fuel management, injectors,
pumps, etc.
> Still running manual boost control and happy.
>
> Be of good cheer
> John
>
> Geoff Mohler
wrote:
> >
> > Anyone know what I'll pay for 13g's?
>
>
> > . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. .
>
> --
> JCZoooM 93 TT 12.46@109Mph
Now with Porsche brakes & Supra rotors
> Email--->
JCZooM@iname.com >
http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/flats/4538>
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Date:
Sat, 22 Apr 2000 13:29:27 -0700
From: James Stephen Gula <
gulajs@jmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Trailer hitch
I don't have my car manual with me here at college (sxeeing
how the car
itself is at home) but doesn't the TT have a 500lb towing
capacity?
- ------------------------------
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"Loco3KGT" Gula
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Date:
Sat, 22 Apr 2000 13:20:29 -0500
From: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: 13g's cost?
>Well..what Im doing is upgrading the VR4
turbos this coming week..<snip>
>This car will be lightened about
1000# this coming fall/winter as
>well...so the torque/HP gains from even
a small upgrade will become
>significant when you add it all
together.
>
I run open track with my VR4, so I am very interested in
learning how you
plan to get 1,000 lb off.
I've can see an easy 250
lb by removing the back seat, replacing the driver
seat, and replacing the
stock exhaust, but then I run out of easy things to
do. Even a 'glass hood
saves only 20 lb or so.
Where are you finding 1,000 lb?
Rich/old
poop/94 VR4,
>
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Date:
Sat, 22 Apr 2000 14:45:52 -0700
From: James Stephen Gula <
gulajs@jmu.edu>
Subject: Weight loss
(was: RE: Team3S: 13g's cost?)
> I've can see an easy 250 lb by
removing the back seat, replacing the driver
> seat, and replacing the
stock exhaust, but then I run out of easy things to
> do. Even a 'glass
hood saves only 20 lb or so.
I'm curious as to knowing how much weight
people think they will lose
by removing the back seat. The entire backseat
(bottom half and top two
sides) total can't weigh more than 10lbs at most.
- ------------------------------
- --Steve "Loco3KGT"
Gula
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Date:
Sat, 22 Apr 2000 18:53:47 -0400
From: Ken Stanton <
ken.c.stanton@usa.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Rochester, NY users
Hello All
Anyone else on this list
live in/near Rochester, NY? If so, please drop
me a personal email at
ken.c.stanton@usa.net
!
Thanks!
Ken Stanton
'91 Pearl White RT/TT
K&N, Snake Eyes,
Plates 007KEN
BRAND NEW (reman) Getrag from MD Auto and RPS Turbo
Clutch
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Date:
Sat, 22 Apr 2000 17:07:29 -0700 (PDT)
From: Geoff Mohler <
gemohler@www.speedtoys.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: 13g's cost?
Im willing to bet that interior, any sheet metal
that isnt holding the car
together (that hangs trim etc) all glass, bulbs,
lenses, rubber, plastic,
pumps, brackets, window motors/rails, bumper support
steel, engine trim, a
glass hood, glass
doors, and glass/fashioned (but
non functional) hatch would catch 1000#
pretty well.
On Sat, 22 Apr
2000, Merritt wrote:
> >Well..what Im doing is upgrading the VR4
turbos this coming week..<snip>
> >This car will be lightened
about 1000# this coming fall/winter as
> >well...so the torque/HP gains
from even a small upgrade will become
> >significant when you add it
all together.
> >
> I run open track with my VR4, so I am very
interested in learning how you
> plan to get 1,000 lb off.
>
> I've can see an easy 250 lb by removing the back seat, replacing the
driver
> seat, and replacing the stock exhaust, but then I run out of easy
things to
> do. Even a 'glass hood saves only 20 lb or so.
>
> Where are you finding 1,000 lb?
>
> Rich/old poop/94 VR4,
>
> >
>
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Date:
Sat, 22 Apr 2000 19:41:49 -0500
From: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: 13g's cost?
At 05:07 PM 4/22/00 -0700, Geoff Mohler
wrote:
>Im willing to bet that interior, any sheet metal that isnt holding
the car
>together (that hangs trim etc) all glass, bulbs, lenses, rubber,
plastic,
>pumps, brackets, window motors/rails, bumper support steel,
engine trim, a
>glass hood, glass
>doors, and glass/fashioned (but
non functional) hatch would catch 1000#
>pretty well.\
I don't
think so -- I'd guess more like 400-500 lb total, and you'll put a
lot of
that back on with a roll cage. But don't let me dissuade you. For
the benefit
of all Mitsu racers, let us know how you make out. Maybe we
need to develop a
weight removal clinic, where folks like you that are
tearing the cars down
would kindly weigh the various components as they
come off. I've seen various
weights posted here for the stock exhaust,
front air dam motor, stock wheels,
etc.
You are absolutely right, of course, about shedding weight. If we
could get
500 to 1,000 lb off, our magnificent cars would tear them a new
***hole at
autocrosses, Solo IIs, open track, drivers schools and drag races.
Even
more so than we do now.
Go for it.
Rich/old poop/94
VR4/still heavy
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Date:
Sat, 22 Apr 2000 20:13:06 -0500
From: wizards <
wizards@mhtc.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Trailer hitch
Out of curiosity, I just pulled out the factory manual for
my 1994
Stealth Twin Turbo ... on page 138, it clearly says, and I quote ...
"Trailer Towing
Do not use your car for trailer
towing."
Pretty hard to misinterpret that one, doesn't look like
much gray area
to me. I guess the translation from the manufacturer is
"you've been
warned, tow anything (even only a couple of hundred pounds)
at your own
risk".
Greg
James Stephen Gula
wrote:
>
> I don't have my car manual with me here at college
(sxeeing how the car
> itself is at home) but doesn't the TT have a 500lb
towing capacity?
>
> ------------------------------
> --Steve
"Loco3KGT" Gula
> --http://gulajs.resnet.jmu.edu
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Date:
Sun, 23 Apr 2000 10:16:01 -0500
From: "cody" <
overclck@flash.net>
Subject: RE:
Team3S: 13g's cost?
Don't forget about street races, drag races, etc.
etc. 1000 Lbs. is alot of
freakin weight. 2800 lbs. is less than
an Eclipse, and Stock bodied (no
weight reduction) Eclipses with approx. 300
hp run the 1/4 in the 12's quite
often. Just think about shaving a full
second off your 1/4 mile time with
the stock hp. and think about power
gains after stock. Now, that 4 or 500
hp engine is still a full second
quicker in most cases in the 1/4... SO, in
theory (I remind you -
THEORY) - if Jack T. Could have shaved a thousand
pounds off his car, we'd
already have a VR-4 in the 9's (9.81 to be exact.)
-
-Cody
#-----Original Message-----
#From:
owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st#[
mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On
Behalf Of Merritt
#Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2000 7:42 PM
#To: Geoff
Mohler
#Cc: Barry E. King;
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st#Subject:
RE: Team3S: 13g's cost?
#
#
#At 05:07 PM 4/22/00 -0700, Geoff Mohler
wrote:
#>Im willing to bet that interior, any sheet metal that isnt
holding the car
#>together (that hangs trim etc) all glass, bulbs, lenses,
rubber, plastic,
#>pumps, brackets, window motors/rails, bumper support
steel, engine trim, a
#>glass hood, glass
#>doors, and
glass/fashioned (but non functional) hatch would catch 1000#
#>pretty
well.\
#
#I don't think so -- I'd guess more like 400-500 lb total, and
you'll put a
#lot of that back on with a roll cage. But don't let me dissuade
you. For
#the benefit of all Mitsu racers, let us know how you make out.
Maybe we
#need to develop a weight removal clinic, where folks like you that
are
#tearing the cars down would kindly weigh the various components as
they
#come off. I've seen various weights posted here for the stock
exhaust,
#front air dam motor, stock wheels, etc.
#
#You are absolutely
right, of course, about shedding weight. If we could get
#500 to 1,000 lb
off, our magnificent cars would tear them a new ***hole at
#autocrosses, Solo
IIs, open track, drivers schools and drag races. Even
#more so than we do
now.
#
#Go for it.
#
#Rich/old poop/94 VR4/still
heavy
#
#
#
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