team3s            Thursday, April 13 2000            Volume 01 : Number 107




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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 09:05:22 -0700
From: Ken Middaugh <Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
Subject: Team3S: Re: speedo problem

Hi Alex,

> I have a 1992 vr4. i just got two problems in a week with my car. my ecs
> system blinks tour and sport at the same time. i have no idea what this
> means. also my odometer/spedo stopped working could it be a fuse or is it
> something a dealer would have to fix. any reply would be greatly appreciated

The VR4 speedo is electrical.  There is a gear housing on the transmission with
an electrical connector.  One thing to check is that the cable is still
connected properly.  To get to it, you have to remove the battery, tray, and
windshield washer resevoir.  The gear housing is between the engine block and
the firewall.

Good luck,
Ken
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General Atomics
San Diego

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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 09:35:57 -0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: RPS Turbo Carbon Clutch - Anyone like it?

- -----Original Message-----From: Oskar <swede@pclink.com>
>Yikes - a few days ago I asked for some positive experiences with
the RPS
>Turbo Carbon clutch and I received no replies.  This scares me
because it
>makes me wonder if this means that no one is happy with RPS Turbo
Carbon
>clutch?  Maybe so...  Then I'm in a good position since I have not
yet
>installed mine.  On the other hand, if someone is happy with theirs
I'd like
>to hear.  I think we need to share positive comments about products
as well
>as negative ones on this list.


Good point.  While we're on the subject, here's some feedback on the
RPS "Carbon Claw" clutch that some of us NT owners installed.  There
was never a report of a problem with this clutch, AFAIK, but it's
probably a good idea to get an opinion or two in the files...

I've never had a problem with mine.  MOF, I like it a lot more than
the stock clutch.  (And bear in mind that the stock clutch is
excellent.)  The Carbon Claw grips more positively and more quickly
than stock, but you can still slip it...  almost as much as you
want.  But it has that definite grip that "reminds you" of its
racing clutch origins.  A full "thumbs-up" on the RPS Carbon Claw
from this Stealth NT owner.

That said, I'm curious as to any changes made to the Carbon Claw
series since then.  Mine was installed about a year ago, when
development was still in the experimental phase.  I sure hope they
didn't change it much, since the version I got was exactly what I
wanted.  Maybe Rob from RPS will give us an update one of these
days...  On both the Turbo Carbon and the Carbon Claw...

Best,

Forrest






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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 12:52:03 -0400
From: Danno <palermod@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: speedo problem

Alex,

Thought I'd also share my experience with a malfunctioning speedo, on the off
chance that it might help.

Mine became intermittent, with the needle occasionally bouncing from 0 to whatever,
as the connection was made and then broken.  After 3 trips to the dealer and a new
speedo, (they indeed checked the connection discussed by Ken, below) the mechanic
discovered that the wire's insulation had been stripped away, allowing an
intermittent short to develop.

He described the short as occuring due to the wire being pinched somewhere along
where it passes under the center console up into the dash.  I can't, unfortunately,
be more specific than that, but if this sounds like the kind of problem you're
experiencing, you could have your dealer call the Mits dealer here in Kalamazoo to
inquire - Call Harold Zeigler Mitsubishi at 616-375-5555.  Could save you a lot of
time, frustration and money.  I was fortunate in that my car was under warranty at
the time, so they paid for the speedo, which, as it turned out, had nothing to do
with the problem.

Good luck.

- - Dan
'95 Black VR4

>
> > I have a 1992 vr4. i just got two problems in a week with my car. my ecs
> > system blinks tour and sport at the same time. i have no idea what this
> > means. also my odometer/spedo stopped working could it be a fuse or is it
> > something a dealer would have to fix. any reply would be greatly appreciated

Ken Middaugh wrote:

> Hi Alex,
>
> > I have a 1992 vr4. i just got two problems in a week with my car. my ecs
> > system blinks tour and sport at the same time. i have no idea what this
> > means. also my odometer/spedo stopped working could it be a fuse or is it
> > something a dealer would have to fix. any reply would be greatly appreciated
>
> The VR4 speedo is electrical.  There is a gear housing on the transmission with
> an electrical connector.  One thing to check is that the cable is still
> connected properly.  To get to it, you have to remove the battery, tray, and
> windshield washer resevoir.  The gear housing is between the engine block and
> the firewall.
>
> Good luck,
> Ken
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> If you're not the lead car, your view never changes!
>
> Ken Middaugh            (858) 455-4510
> General Atomics
> San Diego
>
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 10:03:36 -0700
From: Steve Saeedi <saeedi@mac.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Re: speedo problem

At 9:05 AM -0700 4/12/00, Ken Middaugh wrote:
>Hi Alex,
>
> > I have a 1992 vr4. i just got two problems in a week with my car. my ecs
>> system blinks tour and sport at the same time. i have no idea what this
> > means. also my odometer/spedo stopped working could it be a fuse or is it
> > something a dealer would have to fix. any reply would be greatly appreciated

This indicates, either a sensor has gone bad or a wire on the strut has broken. You may need to test the wires and make sure they all have contact. Any cheapie little voltmeter should do the trick. This has happened to me once and I fixed it by soldering a broken wire.  It has also happened again and am waiting for some time to take the thing apart and start testing again.

- - Steve

>
>The VR4 speedo is electrical.  There is a gear housing on the transmission with
>an electrical connector.  One thing to check is that the cable is still
>connected properly.  To get to it, you have to remove the battery, tray, and
>windshield washer resevoir.  The gear housing is between the engine block and
>the firewall.
>
>Good luck,
>Ken
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>
>Ken Middaugh (858) 455-4510
>General Atomics
>San Diego
>
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:59:12 GMT
From: "Tim DeKeyser" <tdekeyser@hotmail.com>
Subject: Team3S: shocks

All,

Anyone know where to find shocks for Stealths that I can order online at a
good price? Got any that are new you want to sell?

Tim
'91 Stealth TT
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:28:09 -0700
From: Ken Middaugh <Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
Subject: Team3S: Parts, was:shocks

> Anyone know where to find shocks for Stealths that I can order online at a
> good price? Got any that are new you want to sell?

For the benefit of our new folks, this information bears repeating...

For NEW parts, there are numerous Mitsubishi dealers (yes, you can order Stealth
parts too) that provide a generous discount to list members.  The ones that come
up most frequently are:

Lou Fuzz Mitsu, 1-800-528-2525, ask for Greg or Marty.  They're in Saint Louis
Rockland Mitsu 1-914-353-2100, ask for Terry.  They're in New York City
West Broad Mitsu 1-800-229-1001, they're in Virginia
Tallahassee Mitsu 1-888-825-5648 (1-888-tall-mit).  They're in Florida.
Tallahassee is also at http://www.worldparts.com/tallmits or
tallmits@mindspring.com
Norco Mitsu 1-888-689-1788, ask for Bill.  They are in Sothern California.  They
are also at http://www.norcomits.com

I've personally used Tallahassee and Norco extensively and their service is
great.  A set of 4 ECS shocks will cost about $540.

Also, try these salvage yards for Stealth & 3000GT USED parts:

M&S is located in Rancho Cordova near Sacramento.
1-800-695-4700
http://www.msrecycling.com/main.html


Foster's Auto Parts
10355 SE Foster Road
Portland, OR
(800) 547-4851
(800) 278-5548
                     
East Street Automotive
810 East Street ( who'da thunkit? )
Memphis, Tennersee 38104
phone: (901) 774-5374
fax:      (901) 774-5336

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Ken Middaugh (858) 455-4510
General Atomics
San Diego

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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 11:59:37 -0700
From: "Sandie Morrison" <sandie@netst.com>
Subject: Team3S: Aero light comes on frequently

About half the time I drive my' 91 VR4, the Aero light comes on and the
spoiler no longer works. It stays in the down position. If I stop and shut
off the car and restart it then it works again. Any ideas?

- -MM


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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 21:32:18 +0200
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mikael_=C5kesson?= <vr4@bahnhof.se>
Subject: Team3S: Denso Injectors

Hi

I have received a set of 720 Denso injectors today. I was looking for some
markings or something that verify
the size of them but coulden't find anything. The part number say
195600-0830 and they have light blue tops,  no other markings. Are these
injectors 720??

Thanks,

Mikael Akesson
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 12:43:45 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeff Lucius <stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Denso Injectors

Mikael,

My notes say my 720s have 195500-0830 marked on them. I may have
typed the second 5 wrong or it may make no difference at all. I
bought mine from Matt at Accelerated Accessories. I'll check
again when I have the injectors in front of me and report if the
number is different than above.

Jeff Lucius, 3SI #476
http://www.3si.org/member-home/jlucius/
Red 1992 Stealth TT - modified

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From: "Mikael Åkesson" <vr4@bahnhof.se>
To: "Team3S list" <team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 1:32 PM
Subject: Team3S: Denso Injectors

Hi

I have received a set of 720 Denso injectors today. I was
looking for some markings or something that verify the size of
them but coulden't find anything. The part number say
195600-0830 and they have light blue tops,  no other markings.
Are these
injectors 720??

Thanks,

Mikael Akesson
http://www.3000gt.nu

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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 13:25:39 -0700
From: Ken Middaugh <Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Aero light comes on frequently


> About half the time I drive my' 91 VR4, the Aero light comes on and the
> spoiler no longer works. It stays in the down position. If I stop and shut
> off the car and restart it then it works again. Any ideas?

Someone once mentioned that this happens when the time it takes to go up or down
is too long, or when the times are too different between the front and rear
mechanisms.

To try to solve the problem, try the disassembly, lube, and reassembly procedure
as described on http://www.3si.org and http://www.3000gt.com under "Active Aero
Repairs".

Good luck,
Ken
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Ken Middaugh (858) 455-4510
General Atomics
San Diego

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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 14:55:17 -0700
From: Errin Humphrey <errin@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Team3S: Priming the Oil System

I'd like to prime the oil system before I start
my car for the first time on the new turbos.

Is this a good way to do it? . . .

1) Unplug the spark plug wires from the coil packs.
2) Crank the engine to build up some oil pressure.

Is there a better way (like some fuse I can pull)?

How many times should I crank the engine?

Thanks,

- --Errin Humphrey
Seattle


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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:05:58 -0700
From: "Mohler, Jeff" <jeff.mohler@netapp.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Priming the Oil System

Yep, thats how I do it when ive rebuilt something...but on the Supra motors I
do, I find it nicer to have all the plugs out so I can really rev up *heh*.

- -----Original Message-----
From: Errin Humphrey [mailto:errin@u.washington.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 2:55 PM
To: Team3S; Starnet
Subject: Team3S: Priming the Oil System


I'd like to prime the oil system before I start
my car for the first time on the new turbos.

Is this a good way to do it? . . .

1) Unplug the spark plug wires from the coil packs.
2) Crank the engine to build up some oil pressure.

Is there a better way (like some fuse I can pull)?

How many times should I crank the engine?

Thanks,

- --Errin Humphrey
Seattle


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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 18:31:33 -0400
From: "Dan Mecier" <dmecier@ka.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Priming the Oil System

Errin,

There is a fuse you can pull to disable the spark. On my 94 VR-4 it's
labeled "motor".

Dan

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Errin Humphrey
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 5:55 PM
To: Team3S; Starnet
Subject: Team3S: Priming the Oil System


I'd like to prime the oil system before I start
my car for the first time on the new turbos.

Is this a good way to do it? . . .

1) Unplug the spark plug wires from the coil packs.
2) Crank the engine to build up some oil pressure.

Is there a better way (like some fuse I can pull)?

How many times should I crank the engine?

Thanks,

- --Errin Humphrey
Seattle


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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 18:34:07 -0700
From: "Sam Shelat" <sshelat@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Engine mount / trans problems/ suspension bushings

I know exactly what you mean by engine movement.  One Sunday at the drag
strip practically destroyed my amplifier power cable that was securely
mounted against the firewall.  It was cut into badly by the heat shield
which was about 3 inches away from the top when the car was off.  It had to
move about 4 inches back to cut that cable  and got caught on the hydraulic
line running across the back/top of the firewall.  Dealership said the motor
mounts are fine???  Too bad no one makes readily available poly bushings for
the car.  Maybe a little research will turn up a replacement from another
vehicle.  I am going to do exactly that to find suspension bushings.  I will
take mine out and bring them to Just Suspension in New Jersey, where you can
buy polygraphite kits for many vehicles.  I will post cross references if I
find any.

Sam 95 VR-4


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From: Curt Gendron <curt_gendron@hotmail.com>
To: team3S@stealth-3000gt.st <team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Date: Monday, April 10, 2000 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: Team3S: Engine mount / trans problems


>I think one other side effect of our soft engine mounts is the legendary
>"thud" problem that people experience when down shifting to lower gears.
>Usually this "thud" sound happens when people are almost stopped and they
>can't quite find first, then when it finally goes in, you hear this "thud"
>sound.
>
>I totally agree about our engines moving around.  I've looked under the
hood
>when someone else gives it some throttle.  That 6G72 wants to jump right
out
>of the engine compartment.  :)
>
>later,
>Curt
>http://www.mn3s.org
>
>>From: Aso8@aol.com
>>To: vr4@bahnhof.se, team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
>>CC: Aso8@aol.com
>>Subject: Re: Team3S: Engine mount / trans problems
>>Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:48:16 EDT
>>
>>I recently had new engine mounts made that are Hard Mounts with zero play
>>and
>>I expect the ride to be much harsher. These cost about $300. to do at a
>>good
>>welding shop. Usually, its done "for street use" with a type of hard
>>plastic
>>bushings that remove some/most of the play that the rubber mounts give. It
>>should make for a faster racing time but a rougher ride. If you floor the
>>throttle you can see the engine will rock under the stress of the power
you
>>apply. The softer mounts allow more give in the drive train and a delay
>>prior
>>to the car reacting to the throttle. With hard mounts the engine will not
>>move at all...The power transfer is instant & stress is more severe.
>>Arty 91 VR-4
>>
>
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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 00:53:43 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Priming the Oil System

Or simply pull the connector to the coil pack :)

Roger
93'3000GT TT

> There is a fuse you can pull to disable the spark. On my 94 VR-4 it's
> labeled "motor".

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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 18:13:39 -0700
From: "Peg, Pete & Jes Gagne" <pagagne-mn@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Aero light comes on frequently

All I had to do to fix mine was use the spray on the hose and do a super
thorough job of spraying the aero clean - especially around the middle where
the mechanism is.  I know it sounds nuts & totally unmechanically sound, but
it worked for me twice.

Peg
94 VR4

Sandie Morrison wrote:

> About half the time I drive my' 91 VR4, the Aero light comes on and the
> spoiler no longer works. It stays in the down position. If I stop and shut
> off the car and restart it then it works again. Any ideas?
>
> -MM
>
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 18:47:01 -0700
From: "Sam Shelat" <sshelat@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Getrag Tranny Question:  Anyone else having theirs replaced at the moment?

I have had my tranny replaced under warranty 2X for a leaky tranny.  Once,
it was diagnosed as a porous metal problem because it just sweated out of
the bottom of the transfer case.  The second time, it leaked betwn xfer case
and gearbox.  Mitsu can not touch any of the turbo trannys except to replace
as a part.  Any competent tranny repair place can take the case apart and re
seal it with silicone etc.  (which is how both my rebuilds came sealed).

Sam 95 Vr-4
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From: Dy, Leonard <DyL@CTT.com>
To: 'Jim Berry' <fastmax@home.com>
Cc: 3SI (E-mail) <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Date: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 9:21 AM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Getrag Tranny Question: Anyone else having theirs
replaced at the moment?


>Can a leaky tranny and/or  transfercase be repaired as long as the leak is
>not due to a crack in the casing?
>I have a leak on my car and have yet to determine it's source, but I would
>like to know my options once I do determine the cause of it.
>
>Thanks
>Len
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Berry [SMTP:fastmax@home.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2000 10:24 AM
> To: Manoj Prasad; Kevin Fanciulli; Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
> Subject: Re: Team3S: Getrag Tranny Question:  Anyone else
>having theirs replaced at the moment?
>
>
> > Kevin,
> >
> > How do you drive the car? Are you launching your car from the stop
>position?
> > What parts have been replaced in the tranny? Did they tell you
>what is wrong
> > this time?
> >
> > The only parts that are not available are the syncrnos.  All other
>parts and
> > shafts are available, new. I would let your dealer know about M&D
>Auto.
> > They would love to have the resource to get rebuilt trannys.
>
>
> There are  'NO' rebuilt trannies with new parts other than those
>provided by
> Getrag/CRS. There are bearing and seal sets available along with
>output
> shafts and I think the concentric shaft. No new gears, shift forks
>intermediate
> shafts, cases, synchros etc are available. Nor are there specs
>available to
> determine whether or not the new bearings require new shims etc.
>
>
>     Jim Berry
>
>
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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:54:28 -0700
From: Errin Humphrey <errin@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Priming the Oil System

Dan Mecier wrote:

> Errin,
>
> There is a fuse you can pull to disable the spark. On my 94 VR-4 it's
> labeled "motor".

Interesting.  I have a '94 VR4, but I can't find a fuse
labeled "motor."  Not in the fuse box, at least.

The closest this I can find is a fuse labeled "Ignition."
Maybe this would work?

- --Errin Humphrey
Seattle


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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:56:11 -0700
From: Errin Humphrey <errin@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Priming the Oil System

"R.G." wrote:

> Or simply pull the connector to the coil pack :)

Ok, I'm not sure which connector you're talking about.

Is it the connector with four wires which clicks in just
below the front (wires to cylinders 3 and 6) coil pack?

Thanks,

- --Errin Humphrey
Seattle


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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 18:47:22 -0700
From: "Mohler, Jeff" <jeff.mohler@netapp.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Priming the Oil System

Ah hell, get a baster (or any kind of large syringe type tool) to fill/prelube
the turbo cartridge before you put the oil line on it..thats what I do in that
case.

:-----Original Message-----
:From: Errin Humphrey [mailto:errin@u.washington.edu]
:Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 5:57 PM
:To: Mohler, Jeff
:Subject: Re: Team3S: Priming the Oil System
:
:
:"Mohler, Jeff" wrote:
:
:> No, ther'll be no load on it...it'll be fine assuming you
:placed install grease
:> liberally.
:
:I was only doing turbos, so I really didn't grease anything.
:
:> 10-15 seconds should be enough for about any car.
:
:Ok, thanks!
:
:--Errin
:

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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 18:55:28 -0700
From: "Barry E. King" <beking@home.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Priming the Oil System

I wouldn't recommend pulling the coild pack wires, unless you know for
certain what happens on a 3K ignition without a load on it.  Some electronic
ignitions systems will die in that case.  It is better and just as easy IMO
to pull the main fuse.  Note that this also means that pulling a plug and
leaving it dangling (not grounded) whilst attempting to pump spark through
it may also cause damage.  I won't try this on my car, I don't suggest Errin
tries it on his.


Barry

> -----Original Message-----
>
> Or simply pull the connector to the coil pack :)
>
> Roger
> 93'3000GT TT
>
> > There is a fuse you can pull to disable the spark. On my 94 VR-4 it's
> > labeled "motor".


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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 22:11:16 -0400
From: "Dan Mecier" <dmecier@ka.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Priming the Oil System

Errin,

I also have one labeled "ignition" but, when pulled, it disables the
ignition switch, thus I couldn't crank the engine. I will double check the
label on the one I pulled and post here. Maybe it was "engine".

Dan

<Interesting.  I have a '94 VR4, but I can't find a fuse
<labeled "motor."  Not in the fuse box, at least.

<The closest this I can find is a fuse labeled "Ignition."
<Maybe this would work?

<--Errin Humphrey
<Seattle


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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 22:45:02 -0400
From: "Michael Booker" <mrbook@gate.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Priming the Oil System

Another way you can do this (found out when installing my AF gauge) is pull
the whole top plug from the ECU. You will be able to crank it, but it won't
turn over and fire up.

Matt



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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 10:33:57 +0200
From: "R.G." <robby@swissonline.ch>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Priming the Oil System

> Ok, I'm not sure which connector you're talking about.
>
> Is it the connector with four wires which clicks in just
> below the front (wires to cylinders 3 and 6) coil pack?

Yes, this is the plug and for sure it doesn't hurt. During my ignition tests I
did this several times and this doesn't harm the transitors. The schematics show
that the transistors only ground the coils for a short time and when the
transistor opens the spark fires. WIth no coils attached the transistors are
simply a switsch without load. No problem when pulling the coil connector :)

Roger
93'3000GT TT


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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 08:55:00 -0700
From: "Gross, Erik" <erik.gross@intel.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Priming the Oil System

I don't know if this is helpful or not, but if you're trying to crank the
engine without firing the cylinders (similar to what you'd do to check
compression), the service manual recommends pulling the crankshaft position
sensor.  With this disconnected, the ECU will not tell the ignition to fire,
thus no sparks and no problems with disconnected coil packs.  When you
reconnect it, you're supposed to disconnect the battery for 10 minutes to
reset the ECU error code generated by disconnecting the CPS.

- --Erik

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Erik Gross                                         DuPont, WA
'95 Pearl White 3000GT (NA, DOHC, 5-speed)          69,000 mi
Firestone Firehawk 245/50/ZR16 tires, stock wheels
Magnacor KV85 spark plug wires, NGK plugs @ 0.040"
K&N FIPK (57-1500), resonator bye-bye
Mobil 1 10W30 Synthetic w/ OEM oil filter
***No more ticking lash adjusters!  Treated with GM EOS, BG
   44K FI cleaner. Change oil every 2000mi, filter 4000mi ***
- -------------------------------------------------------------


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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 11:05:20 -0500
From: Matt Jannusch <MAJ@BigCharts.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Priming the Oil System

> I don't know if this is helpful or not, but if you're trying to crank the
> engine without firing the cylinders (similar to what you'd do to check
> compression), the service manual recommends pulling the crankshaft position
> sensor.  With this disconnected, the ECU will not tell the ignition to fire,
> thus no sparks and no problems with disconnected coil packs.  When you
> reconnect it, you're supposed to disconnect the battery for 10 minutes to
> reset the ECU error code generated by disconnecting the CPS.

The other nice thing about doing it this way is that the injectors don't dump fuel into the cylinders, which washes away the oil coating from the bore.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 09:10:57 -0700
From: Patrick Spann <tobar8@earthlink.net>
Subject: Team3S: Clunk in 1st gear

I  have a 1992 VR-4 with 72,000 miles.  Completely stock.  Purchased last
year and know little about the cars history.  I am noticing a clunk when I
ease the clutch out in first gear.  This problem occurs about half the time,
and is getting more noticeable.  I drive the care very easy, no quick
starts.  It sounds like there is a bind somewhere under the car, but I
cannot locate the exact location, but the rear/middle of the car seems most
likely.

It may be a u-joint?  Loose mount?  Any suggestions would be appreciated.
This is my first letter to 3s and I am very pleased with my association with
3s so far.

Tobar8@earthlink.net

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