team3s
Wednesday, April 5
2000 Volume 01
: Number
101
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Date:
Tue, 4 Apr 2000 11:11:16 -0500
From: "J.D. Stewart" <
jstewart@ncfcomm.com>
Subject:
Team3S: 3S Values
Hi group. Stealth owner wannabe here.
:>)
I found a 92 Mitsu non-turbo that a dealer had
traded in, and he later
found out the engine was bad. Apparently, it
makes so much noise, that the
mechanics don't want to touch it either.
Since they give a 90 day warrantee
on any used car they sell, they ran it
through the auction to get rid of it.
No takers, at their minimum. So,
they have it back, and they'd like to dump
it cheap. I'm trying to get
a handle on the costs of re-doing the engine,
so I can make an informed offer
on it. Everything else looks good, but of
course it's not drivable, so
there's plenty else to take into consideration.
I'm a former ASE-certified
mechanic, but 3S's were not my area.
Then, almost as a
fluke, I mentioned this to a friend who owns a
car-repair shop, and he said
that his wife was thinking of getting rid of
her '93 Stealth RT. It's
red, completely loaded, with only 30K miles. I
hope I didn't show too
much excitement, or let on that I was simply drooling
on the phone. No
price mentioned yet.
I know there's really not enough info
here, but close guesses will help
out. BTW, I'm in the Midwest
USA. Thanks.
J.D. (keeping my fingers crossed) Stewart
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Date:
Tue, 4 Apr 2000 10:20:47 -0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <
bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: 3S Values
Hey, JD,
Hmmm... Two cars, both DOHC NTs -
a '92 3k with a trashed engine,
and a low-mileage '93 RT that's probably been
pretty well cared
for... But why limit yourself to only two
choices? I can only
imagine your excitement about having two cars
available locally at
what are probably great prices. And I envy that
you're a certified
mechanic capable of doing much of the work yourself.
But if I may
suggest some other things to consider before buying (to make
your
decision even tougher)... :-)
Both these cars are 1st
generation, and although both are eminently
"moddable", I would
take a look at the second-generation '94-and-up
cars as being slightly more
desirable; they are safer (dual
air-bags standard and enhanced
crash-point reinforcement), and a
number of systems were upgraded.
Since now you are shopping
actively, I think you'll find a number of other 3S
vehicles for sale
in your area (
www.autotrader.com), so you should probably
decide up
front which styling you prefer-- the racier 3000GT or the
more
understated Stealth, which is just slightly faster because of
its
lighter weight. That brings up another point - that if
you're
really into neck-snapping acceleration and incredible cornering,
you
won't be happy with anything less than an AWD turbo, even with
its
more complex and occasionally troublesome technology. I would
think
that would be less of a problem for someone who has worked
around
engines than for many of the rest of us. Insurance rates
are
probably a lot lower where you are than in other parts of the
country,
but the turbo models cost almost double to insure, and are
not eligible for
aftermarket warranty protection with many carriers.
No matter what you
choose, you won't be disappointed. I've never
met a 3S car I didn't
like... :-) Good luck, and "ask away" with
any other
questions you might have.
Best,
Forrest
'94 Stealth NT, Red
- -----Original Message-----From: J.D. Stewart <
jstewart@ncfcomm.com>
>Hi
group. Stealth owner wannabe here. :>)
>
I found a 92 Mitsu non-turbo that a dealer had traded in, and
he
later
>found out the engine was bad. Apparently, it makes so much
noise,
that the
>mechanics don't want to touch it either. Since
they give a 90 day
warrantee
>on any used car they sell, they ran it
through the auction to get
rid of it.
>No takers, at their
minimum. So, they have it back, and they'd
like to dump
>it
cheap. I'm trying to get a handle on the costs of re-doing
the
engine,
>so I can make an informed offer on it. Everything
else looks good,
but of
>course it's not drivable, so there's plenty
else to take into
consideration.
>I'm a former ASE-certified mechanic,
but 3S's were not my area.
> Then, almost as a fluke, I
mentioned this to a friend who owns
a
>car-repair shop, and he said
that his wife was thinking of getting
rid of
>her '93 Stealth RT.
It's red, completely loaded, with only 30K
miles. I
>hope I
didn't show too much excitement, or let on that I was
simply
drooling
>on the phone. No price mentioned
yet.
> I know there's really not enough info here, but
close guesses
will help
>out. BTW, I'm in the Midwest USA.
Thanks.
>J.D. (keeping my fingers crossed)
Stewart
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Date:
Tue, 4 Apr 2000 10:40:55 -0700
From: "Jose Soriano" <
amahoser@linkline.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: VR-4 weight
From: "Bob_Rand" <
Bob_Rand@msn.com>
When I am on a
wavy
> or road with dips the front end starts to bounce up and down way to
much.
> Other than that one issue they are fine
I do not have
that problem... then again, I have GAB shocks/struts. Either
the dampening
level of the stock shocks it to little for your spring rate or
your shocks
are worn....
Hoser
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Date:
Tue, 4 Apr 2000 15:15:38 -0400
From: "Bob_Rand" <
Bob_Rand@msn.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
VR-4 weight
I replaced all the struts new when I did the springs.
I have 550lb front
and 325lb rear springs.
Bob
93 Steatlth TT
-
----- Original Message -----
From: Jose Soriano <
amahoser@linkline.com>
To:
Bob_Rand <
Bob_Rand@msn.com>; Team3S
list <
team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Tuesday, April 04, 2000 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: VR-4
weight
>
> From: "Bob_Rand" <
Bob_Rand@msn.com>
> When I am on a
wavy
> > or road with dips the front end starts to bounce up and down
way to
much.
> > Other than that one issue they are
fine
>
>
> I do not have that problem... then again, I have
GAB shocks/struts. Either
> the dampening level of the stock shocks it to
little for your spring rate
or
> your shocks are
worn....
>
> Hoser
> visit my Stealth site at
www.3si.org/amahoser>
>
>
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Date:
Tue, 04 Apr 2000 19:41:30 -0700
From: Errin Humphrey <
errin@u.washington.edu>
Subject:
Team3S: Installing EGT Gauge
I recently bought a GReddy EGT gauge,
and
I have some questions about installing it.
I'd like to install it
while the turbos are off the
car right now so that I can use a vacuum
cleaner
to suck the metal crap out of the manifold. I
plan to
install it in the front manifold with the
probe sticking straight up just
behind the dipstick.
1) What size drill bit and tap do I use for
the
probe fitting?
The manual says to use an 1/8 PT tap and
it
doesn't suggest a drill size. The Apexi EGT
manual says to use a
1/8 PT tap and to drill an
8 pi hole.
I wasn't able to find either of
these things at the
hardware store. The closest thing was a
drill
and tap combo of the size: 1/4-18NPT 7/16".
This is all Greek
to me. :)
2) Is a wireless drill okay or do I need to use
a
plug-in type drill? (I doubt it makes a diff).
3) Any other advice
about drilling and tapping
the hole? and about tightening the probe
fitting?
Thanks in advance for your help!
-
--Errin
Seattle
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Date:
Wed, 5 Apr 2000 17:27:29 +0700
From: "CV.Duta Karya Teknik" <
dutakt@sby.centrin.net.id>
Subject:
Fw: Team3S: NEED INFO
Hi All,
Thanks for your kindly assistance
for my lash adjuster problem, but I
already fixed it by removing and
collapsed it first then immersed to clean
diesel fuel and push it up and down
to bleed air out.
With diesel fuel in it, it feels hardly to depress then I
drop it into barel
after I completed valve train then I started the engine
and the sounds is
like industrial sewing machine, no ticking at all.
Once
again thanks for all.
Regards,
Harijanto
- -----Original
Message-----
From: Gross, Erik <
erik.gross@intel.com>
To:
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st <
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Date:
Thursday, March 30, 2000 12:20 AM
Subject: RE: Team3S: NEED
INFO
>> Harijanto, I like your analogy of the lifter
noise as "satan", it has
>> certainly been an irritant to
many. The most likely cause is
>> air in the lifter. One of
the causes can be over fill of the oil. As
>> the crank cuts through
the oil it can cause it to foam with little air
>> bubbles. The
other end of the scale is oil level to low an sump
will
pick
>up
>> some air on hard cornering etc.
Most of the time if you rev the engine
>to
>> about 3500 to>
4000 rpm and slowly bring it down a couple of times will
>> allow the
air to escape the lifters.
>>
>> Bob
>
>One
addition to Bob's comments: dirty oil can cause the ticking as well
-
>if the lash adjusters get clogged. For a number of reasons, I'm
pretty
sure
>that was my problem last year (it was bad enough that I
was embarrassed to
>go through drive-thrus and quiet neighborhoods), and I
haven't had it come
>back other than about 3-4 times in the last
year. Those few times were
>after the car had been sitting for a day
or two, it was cold outside, and I
>had just started it. Each of
those times, it went away promptly when I
>raised the revs over
2500RPM. My understanding is that that is normal for
>our cars
occasionally. Perhaps you should try fuel injector/valve
cleaner
>additive in your next tank of gas... Also, make sure your
oil and filter
>are clean and changed at least every 3000mi. Also,
like Bob said, don't
>over- or under-fill your oil, either, as this can
cause satan to
appear:)
>
>--Erik
>
>------
----------
>Erik
Gross
DuPont, WA
>'95 Pearl White 3000GT (NA, DOHC,
5-speed) 68,000
mi
>Firestone Firehawk 245/50/ZR16 tires, stock wheels
>Magnacor
KV85 spark plug wires, NGK plugs @ 0.040"
>K&N FIPK (57-1500),
resonator bye-bye
>Mobil 1 10W30 Synthetic w/ OEM oil filter
>***No
more ticking lash adjusters! Treated with GM EOS, BG
>
44K FI cleaner. Change oil every 2000mi, filter 4000mi
***
>-------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
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Date:
Wed, 5 Apr 2000 11:32:28 EDT
From:
MerisaPDX@aol.comSubject: Team3S:
Transmission Needed
I am in need of a automatic transmission for my 1991
RT 24 valve non-turbo.
I have tried the usual sources and have been
given the usual "we have one
that should work".
If
anyone knows of a reptable source for a transmission for my car which is
the
correct one, (i.e.: not one out of a Galant), please let me
know.
Thanks
Merrisa
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Date:
Wed, 5 Apr 2000 19:00:53 -0700
From: "Bob Forrest" <
bf@bobforrest.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Admin: Team3S Search Page is UP!
Hey dudes and dudettes,
We
have a beta version of a Search Page up for those of you who are
looking for
answers. Please send your feedback to me on how it's
working (or what
isn't). It's just a first effort, and other
members are still working
on other options, but this will do for
now. I tried a few things with
it and it works pretty well. It has
found data on all 177 pages of the
Team3S website. Check it out for
yourself. You can access it from
the Team3S Home Page, or from the
Archives Page.
www.stealth-3000gt.stBest,
Forrest
for
the Admin
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