team3s
Sunday, March 5
2000
Volume 01 : Number
074
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Date:
Sat, 4 Mar 2000 21:57:07 -0600
From: "Vineet Singh" <
billi_gates@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Viper TV show, featuring 5+ Stealths! URL!
Whoops! I forgot to
give out the URL...
http://www.ecanfix.com/~cody/and
more easy to remember,
go.to/vipervideo
Thanks!
Vineet
Singh
Manuals On CD -
http://manualcd.dsm.org Club DSM
A/T -
http://at.dsm.org -
"Never Lift To Shift!"
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Date:
Sat, 4 Mar 2000 20:49:41 -0800
From: "Murat Okcuoglu" <
murat@dellnet.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: THE BEST OIL FOR THE TT MOTOR
Here is what made me use Mobi1
exclusively:
TRD (toyota race team sponsored by Castrol) uses Mobil1 on
their Indy, baja
and formula atlantic engines!!!!
- -----
Original Message -----
From: "WALTER D. BEST" <
WDBO39@erols.com>
To: "Palamara,
Peter" <
pala@gwl.com>;
"Nickolaos M. Sgouros"
<
atenag@coqui.net>; "Team3s"
<
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Tuesday, February 29, 2000 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: Team3S: THE BEST OIL FOR THE
TT MOTOR
> I cited an independent survey and tomorrow I can quote
you from an
article,
> published in this months issue of a publication
most all of you may never
> hear of citing Mobil 1 as the best oil.
Publication is American Iron.
Were
> is your independent studies or
articles? The information in the article I
> cited can be obtained
from any product data sheet - you can call Redline,
to
> find out for
your self.
>
> I have run Mobil since I purchased the car new in 92
and I just flat out
> have not had a bit of trouble out of my car.
The only item I have
replaced,
> other than the general maintenance
items, is a $4.95 reverse light switch.
> I have 85,000 miles on my car
and she runs great. Based upon the mods I
> have I should be running
some where in the 400 HP range.
>
> The main reason I don't reply to
many posts is because I haven't had any
> problems, to relate to those who
have. What really make me wonder is why
> are all those folks who
run Redline have all those problems. Now as for
> something I can't
substantiate - the Redline Dealer at the local sport car
> track (Summit
Point) I attend told me that he would not advise running
> Redline in a
street car, because it doesn't have the detergents and
> additives
needed. But I didn't cite this earlier because I didn't have
>
proof.
>
> Now I suspect you had other engine problems and that
prompted you to tear
> your engine apart to start with and the oil may not
have been the cause
but
> the result of your problem. But running
Mobil 1, I haven't had any
> problems, but I guess if you run a different
product you feel some reason
to
> defend it, so show me an independent
write up, show me where Redline is
> rated the best other than in the
material they publish. I am open, but
> opinion should never be
confused with facts. Show me the facts, studies
and
>
tests.
>
> What me worry,
> Dave Best
>
> Any
question regarding Mobil can be answered by calling
1-800-ASK-MOBIL.
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message
-----
> From: Palamara, Peter <
pala@gwl.com>
> To: 'WALTER D. BEST'
<
WDB039@erols.com>; Nickolaos M.
Sgouros
> <
atenag@coqui.net>;
Team3s <
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 6:36 PM
> Subject: RE: Team3S: THE BEST
OIL FOR THE TT MOTOR
>
>
> > Check out my webpage and you
will see that Mobil one is not always good.
> ive
> > been using
mobile one synthetic and if you see the pictures of the torn
> > apart
motor it shows a brown slug type stuff all over (even worse in
> >
person!) Yes oil does discolor stuff eventually but the parts
looked
like
> > rust has been going on there.
> >
>
>
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
>
> From: WALTER D. BEST [
mailto:WDBO39@erols.com]
> > Sent:
Monday, February 28, 2000 4:47 PM
> > To: Nickolaos M. Sgouros;
Team3s
> > Subject: Re: Team3S: THE BEST OIL FOR THE TT MOTOR
>
>
> >
> > Check out this web page concerning oils
>
>
http://www.micapeak.com/info/oiled.html
this is very well done and
> provides
> > a lot of useful
information. Anyone who knows me knows I am a Mobil 1
> fan,
>
> I think it's the best by oil available and I confirmed with Mobil
the
> > figures in the study above.
> >
> > Hope this
helps,
> >
> > Dave Best
> >
> >
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Nickolaos M. Sgouros <
atenag@coqui.net>
> > To: Team3s
<
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
>
> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2000 6:00 PM
> > Subject: Team3S: THE
BEST OIL FOR THE TT MOTOR
> >
> >
> > > Friends
Hi!
> > > Did someone knows what is the best oil to use for
the TT motors when
> the
> > > ambient average
temperatute is 85-95 F all year long?
> > >
> >
>
> > > Nikolaos M. Sgouros
> > > Poseidon
"X" Inc
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
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>
> >
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Date:
Sun, 5 Mar 2000 00:01:57 -0800 (PST)
From: George Kuo <
amkreadgto@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Help, idling problem.. throttle position sensor??
Hi
Team,
My car's been acting weird lately. Use to happen maybe
once a
month.. now every other day!
The engine would have a hard time idling. No
throttle
response.. and engine just chokes and dies. I just
gave it a lot
of gas and keep driving. It will drive
OK (cruising speed) but then
stumbles.. then OK
again.. then stumble. But after a few minutes, it
will
go away.. and of course its time to take it to a
mechanic.. this
wouldnt happen! Anyways.. it happen
again tonite and its annoying the
sh*t outa me.
I will take it to the dealer next week to get
some
maintainance done.. including a new fuel filter.
I remember I
heard somewhere this might be a problem
associated with the 'throttle
positioning sensor'?
Without knowing the real cause of this problem,
I
might just go ahead and replace this thing during the
maintenance since
the car is kinda old anyways.
My mods are: 13Gs, 550s, ARC-2GP, HKS
pump. The
problem started way later after these mods.. so I
dont
think its my mods.
Can someone give me some advice?? Also, how
much $$ to
replacing that sensor?
Thanx!
George
'92 RT
TT
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Date:
Sun, 5 Mar 2000 04:47:08 -0800 (PST)
From: Jeff Lucius <
stealthman92@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Help, idling problem.. throttle position
sensor??
George,
DO NOT take your car to a dealer just to check
the TPS! If your
TPS didn't work, your car wouldn't run at all. You can
easily
check the functioning with the TMO datalogger or a digital
volt
meter (DVM).
As Roger has pointed out, for idle the ARC2 must
see less than
0.5V from the TPS (ECU pin 67 OBDI and pin 87 OBDII) and
does
not tap into the idle position switch value. The TPS output can
vary
a little depending on driving conditions. Your TPS is
probably adjusted where
the value is less than 0.5V sometimes
and greater other times. Hence the
intermittent nature of your
problems.
If you don't have a datalogger
or don't want to tap into the ECU
just loosen the two bolts on the sensor,
rotate it A LITTLE
counterclockwise, then tighten the bolts. See if your
problems
go away. Repeat as necessary. WARNING: our cars want to
see
between 0.3V and 1.0V at idle from the TPS so don't turn
too
far.
If you have the datalogger just look at the DRB II
signals
(percentages or voltages) with the car off or running.
The
percentage is just the TPS value divided by the reference
voltage of
5V.
With a DVM, you must read the TPS values at the ECU (harder
but
more rewarding). If you need more info let me know.
Hope this
helps some,
Jeff Lucius,
StealthMan92@yahoo.com, 3SI #476
Red
1992 Stealth TT - modified
- ----- Original Message -----
From:
George Kuo <
amkreadgto@yahoo.com>
To: <
team3s-digest@mail.stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Sunday, March 05, 2000 2:01 AM
Subject: Team3S: Help, idling problem..
throttle position
sensor??
Hi Team,
My car's been acting weird
lately. Use to happen maybe
once a month.. now every other day!
The
engine would have a hard time idling. No throttle
response.. and engine just
chokes and dies. I just
gave it a lot of gas and keep driving. It will
drive
OK (cruising speed) but then stumbles.. then OK
again.. then
stumble. But after a few minutes, it will
go away.. and of course its time to
take it to a
mechanic.. this wouldnt happen! Anyways.. it
happen
again tonite and its annoying the sh*t outa me.
I will take it
to the dealer next week to get some
maintainance done.. including a new fuel
filter.
I remember I heard somewhere this might be a
problem
associated with the 'throttle positioning sensor'?
Without
knowing the real cause of this problem, I
might just go ahead and replace
this thing during the
maintenance since the car is kinda old
anyways.
My mods are: 13Gs, 550s, ARC-2GP, HKS pump. The
problem
started way later after these mods.. so I dont
think its my mods.
Can
someone give me some advice?? Also, how much $$ to
replacing that
sensor?
Thanx!
George
'92 RT
TT
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Date:
Mon, 6 Mar 2000 08:41:01 +1300
From: Kevin Clark <
Kevin.Clark@hnz.co.nz>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: shocks
> Today I have tested my stock shocks and how do
they work with
> ECS. Testing gave interesting results - when switching
from "tour"
> mode to "sport" mode, front shocks
become harder but rear one
> become softer! Is it
normally????
Oleg, Rich is correct in that the car adjusts itself for
quite a few
conditions when in "Tour" mode. The following
information can
be derived from the service manual.
Cheers,
Kevin
Clark
'91 GTO-VR4
Title: Electronic Control Suspension
(ECS)
Source: 1991 3000GT Service Manual (pg 33B-18,19)
When in
Sport mode selected the suspension is set at Hard.
When in Tour mode the
following Control Functions are active:
Anti-Roll
If the steering wheel is rotated 90 degrees
within 0.3 seconds
then the suspension is set at
Medium. If this change occurs
within 0.2 seconds
then it is set at Hard.
Anti-Dive
If the
speed of the vehicle drops quickly during braking then
the
suspension is set at Hard.
Anti-Squat
The
suspension will harden at low speeds when accelerating
quickly. During hard acceleration at 30km/h the
suspension
is set at Hard, at 60km/h it is set at Medium,
at 90km/h it
is set at Soft. At all speeds
suspension will change to
Medium after a second of
acceleration.
High Speed Sensitive
When
accelerating the suspension will change from Soft to
Medium at 130km/h and will revert back to soft when the
speed drops below 120km/h.
Pitching and
Bouncing
If the vehicle's body bounces up and down by
approx 5cm within
a second then the suspension is set at
Hard until this motion
ceases.
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Date:
Sun, 5 Mar 2000 23:27:27 +0200
From: "Oleg-Telia" <
Oleg@telia.lv>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
shocks
> When in Sport mode selected the suspension is set at
Hard
O'k I undestand, but:
1. The car doesn't move.
2. When I
switch from "Tour" to "Sport", front suspension is set at
hard (22
to 17) and rear is set at soft (20 to 24)!!!! It's
stupid!!!
> Oleg, Rich is correct in that the car adjusts itself for
quite a few
> conditions when in "Tour" mode. The
following information can
> be derived from the service
manual.
>
> Cheers,
> Kevin Clark
> '91
GTO-VR4
>
>
> Title: Electronic Control Suspension
(ECS)
> Source: 1991 3000GT Service Manual (pg
33B-18,19)
>
> When in Sport mode selected the suspension is set at
Hard.
>
> When in Tour mode the following Control Functions are
active:
>
> Anti-Roll
> If
the steering wheel is rotated 90 degrees within 0.3
seconds
> then the suspension is set at
Medium. If this change occurs
> within 0.2
seconds then it is set at Hard.
>
>
Anti-Dive
> If the speed of the vehicle drops
quickly during braking then
> the suspension is
set at Hard.
>
>
Anti-Squat
> The suspension will harden at low
speeds when accelerating
> quickly. During
hard acceleration at 30km/h the suspension
> is
set at Hard, at 60km/h it is set at Medium, at 90km/h
it
> is set at Soft. At all speeds
suspension will change to
> Medium after a second
of acceleration.
>
> High Speed
Sensitive
> When accelerating the suspension will
change from Soft to
> Medium at 130km/h and will
revert back to soft when the
> speed drops below
120km/h.
>
> Pitching and
Bouncing
> If the vehicle's body bounces up and
down by approx 5cm within
> a second then the
suspension is set at Hard until this motion
>
ceases.
>
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Date:
Mon, 6 Mar 2000 10:39:21 +1300
From: Kevin Clark <
Kevin.Clark@hnz.co.nz>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: shocks
> O'k I undestand, but:
> 1. The car doesn't
move.
> 2. When I switch from "Tour" to "Sport", front
suspension is set
> at hard (22 to 17) and rear is
set at soft (20 to 24)!!!! It's stupid!!!
Not sure what the numbers mean
but this sounds like there is a problem
with the rear ECS. Have a look
at 33B in your Service Manual to trouble-
shoot the problem. The
following is from page 18...
6. ACTUATOR OPERATION CHECK
6-1.
Actuator Operating Sound Check
(1) Set the ignition switch to ON.
(2)
Bring your ear near the top of the shock absorber.
NOTE
In the case of the rear shock absorbers, remove
the trim
cover at the top of the shock absorber
before bringing your
ear near the shock
absorber.
(3) Check that the operating sound of the actuator in the
shock
absorber can be heard each time the control
modes are
changed by pressing the ECS
switch.
6-2. Damping Force Check
(1) Set the ignition switch to
ON.
(ECS indicator Tour ON, damping force
SOFT)
(2) Check the damping force SOFT state by shaking the
top
mounting points of the front shock absorbers or
the top of
the rear end panels of the rear shock
absorbers up and
down.
(3) Press the ECS switch
to change the control mode to Sport.
(ECS indicator
Sport ON, damping force HARD)
(4) Shake the vehicle up and down to check that
the damping
force is harder than in the SOFT
state.
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Date:
Sun, 5 Mar 2000 15:24:24 -0800 (PST)
From: George Kuo <
amkreadgto@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Where is the throttle position sensor??
Hi Team,
Does
someone have pix/drawings of where this sensor is
located?
Thanx!
George
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Date:
Mon, 6 Mar 2000 13:23:13 +1300
From: Kevin Clark <
Kevin.Clark@hnz.co.nz>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: Where is the throttle position sensor??
On a '91
GTO-VR4...
The Throttle Position Sensor is near where the Y-pipe
meets
the Intake Plenum (near the Idle Speed Adjustment
Screw on the engine - see
http://beam.to/GTO_Manual).
In
the Service Manual this can be found in Section 13
pages 33 to
35.
Cheers,
Kevin.
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Date:
Sun, 5 Mar 2000 19:53:51 -0600
From: "Brad Bedell" <
bbedell@austin.rr.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Car information poll
I'm doing some research for a database
project that I'm working on.
If you were wanting a web site that provided
information about any
make/model of cars, what sort of information would be
important to you.
reasons for site:
Buying car, performance mod
routes, estimated cost of car, mileage, quirks
etc..
please reply to
me personally. Thanks,
bbedell@austin.rr.comBrad
Check
out my home page:
http://home.austin.rr.com/overboost/E-Mail:
bbedell@austin.rr.com ICQ#
3612682
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Date:
Mon, 06 Mar 2000 00:27:06 -0500
From: "John T. Christian" <
jczoom@geocities.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Road Atlanta GA
Hi all,
I'll be running Road Atlanta
with the Peachtree BMWCCA this weekend 3/11
& 12. They allow guests
so if you come by, I'll talk with one of the
instructors to get you a fast
ride in their car around the track.
They won't allow me to have
passengers.
Let me know privately if you'll be there.
Be of good
cheer
John
- --
JCZoooM 93 TT 12.46@109Mph Now with
Porsche brakes & Supra rotors
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