team3s
Monday, February 28
2000 Volume 01
: Number
069
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Date:
Sun, 27 Feb 2000 20:30:26 -0500
From: "Bob Rand" <
rtr@vnet.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Brake
fluids
+Merritt, I have been doing a little research as a future
project on the
brakes. The info I have on fluid is that stock is a dot
3 by increasing to
a dot 4/5 you get about 27 deg. cent. additional
boiling point. The race
guys use synthetic, but apparently it will not
work with ABS systems. So to
get a real race breaking system in our
cars we would need to get rid of
the
ABS.
Bob
Interested in anything you find out.
- -----
Original Message -----
From: Merritt <
merritt@cedar-rapids.net>
To:
<
opentracking@topica.com>;
<
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Saturday, February 26, 2000 11:07 PM
Subject: Team3S: Brake
fluids
> Soon, I will be installing Brembo Big Red calipers from a
Porsche Turbo
and
> new stainless steel lines on my Mitsu. Since the
entire system will
drained
> of fluid anyway, I thought it might be a
suitable time to change over to a
> better brake fluid than what I am
using now (Racer's Blue)
>
> Question 1: What's the best brake fluid
to put in for open tracking? Why?
>
> Question 2: Racer's Blue is
non-synthetic and Motul is synthetic, so I
> can't mix them, right?
I have a pint of both hanging around the garage,
> but not enough of
either to do a complete change. Hate to see it go to
waste.
>
>
Question 3: Any drawbacks to using full-race fluid other than cost? I
know
> there's some fluid out there that costs a zillion dollars a pint
but, with
> my luck, it probably leaks like a sieve.
>
>
Question 4: Is there a proper sequence for doing a complete brake fluid
>
change? Especially if I go to synthetic? Last time, we just drained
out
the
> old stuff and poured in Racer's Blue, but that isn't
synthetic.
>
> Question 5: What's the proper pre-race procedure for
brake fluid? We've
> been bleeding the brakes before every event. We bleed
'em until the burnt
> black fluid stops and fresh blue starts, and then
top off with fresh
> Racer's Blue. You guys don't want me to replace ALL
the fluid before every
> event, do you?
>
> All advice
welcome
>
> Rich/94 Mitsubish 3000GT VR4/Somebody stop
me!
>
>
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Date:
Sun, 27 Feb 2000 17:56:14 -0800
From: "Murat Okcuoglu" <
murat@dellnet.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: removing the MAS restriction
- ----- Original Message
-----
From: "Genesiscon Lehir" <
lehir@genesiscom.ch>
To:
"'Murat Okcuoglu'" <
murat@dellnet.com>; "'Team
3S'"
<
Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Friday, February 25, 2000 1:33 AM
Subject: RE: Team3S: removing the MAS
restriction
> Hi...
> I know that the Z32 MAF is using a
heated element to measure the air flow,
> and that the 3S uses
ultrasound.
>
> Now, the big "IF's"
>
> IF the
3S MAF _is_ linear
> AND
> IF the reading of the MAF is a
direct function of the voltage (i.e. not a
> FREQUENCY)
>
>
THEN (can you guess that I have a little programming
background.....)
>
> adding a $3 electronic board between the MAF
and the ECU will solve the
> problem..
>
The T/T MAS is
karman-vortex device, using ultrasonic waves to measure air
speed.
the
output is frequency... Seems like a doughterboard is the only
solution.
Are you sure MAS is not a bottleneck?
Then why people bother
with VPC?
does anyone have experience what is the HP ceiling with stock
MAS?
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Date:
Sun, 27 Feb 2000 23:35:11 -0800
From: "Gula, James S" <
gulajs@jmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
Brake fluids
On Sun, 27 Feb 2000 20:30:26 -0500 Bob Rand <
rtr@vnet.net> wrote:
>
+Merritt, I have been doing a little research as a future project on
the
> brakes. The info I have on fluid is that stock is a dot
3 by increasing to
> a dot 4/5 you get about 27 deg. cent.
additional boiling point. The race
> guys use synthetic, but
apparently it will not work with ABS systems. So to
> get a real race
breaking system in our cars we would need to get rid of
> the
ABS.
>
> Bob
The one thing I like about Dodge Vipers.... ABS
is _not_ standard...
hell it's not even an option... (atleast not last time
I checked)
- --Steve "Loco3KGT" Gula
3000GT w/ no
ABS
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Date:
Mon, 28 Feb 2000 06:23:11 -0700
From: "The Hedonist" <
rboehner@dimensional.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Active Aero
Any one have a active aero control box ? maybe one of
you guys that
changed out your wing?
Please reply off list as this
is justa little off topic..
Thanks
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Date:
Mon, 28 Feb 2000 09:57:41 -0600
From: Matt Jannusch <
MAJ@BigCharts.com>
Subject: Team3S:
ARC w/550cc injector setup?
Does anyone have some baseline setups for the
ARC and 550cc injectors? I got spring fever yesterday and pulled the
Spyder out of storage and I have a couple boxfulls of parts (ARC2 setup,
injectors and 15G's) to bolt on one of these days. Where should I start
with settings on the ARC2, close to stock and lean the low end as necessary from
there?
- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4
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Date:
Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:15:24 -0500
From:
monarchi@us.ibm.comSubject: Team3S:
Part #'s for Spark plug wires
Does anyone know what the part # is for the
stock spark plug wires for
a 92 Dodge Stealth ES (DOHC, non-turbo) is ?
OR what the stock # is
for a base Mitus 3000GT (through 96) I believe or any
3000GT SL ?
Who is the OEM for spark plug wires on our car, Mitsu (or
Dodge) or NGK ?
Car parts lists two different sets of plug wires and
doesn't really
differentiate between the two. Is it the difference
between turbo
and non-trubro, or is it the difference between SOHC and
DOHC.
I have the DOHC.
NGK spark plug
wires
#ME78
$86.96
NGK spark plug
wires
#9176
$86.96
Thanks,
Alan Monarchi
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Date:
Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:52:54 -0600
From: xwing <
xwing@execpc.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Timing Belt Change Cost
Had to arrange for the "60K timing belt
change" for a friend, so here goes...
Parts cost:
timing belt
145.55; AC belt 27.70; Pwr steering belt 14.20; Waterpump
98.17;
Timing belt tensioner 27.27; Idler pulley 26.20;
Total
$339.09 minus 25% discount (it's good to be the king :)
= $254.32
(add your own taxes) (I think I covered
all...)
Dealership Labor cost:
5.5 hours @ $68/hour =
$374
Total: $628.32
"On the Side" Mitsu dealer worker
will do job labor for $225, so:
Total: $479.32 (plus tax on the
parts)
This does NOT include spark plugs/wires etc, as my friend had new
plugs/wires
changed already.
Jack Tertadian
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Date:
Mon, 28 Feb 2000 10:08:41 -0800 (PST)
From: George Kuo <
amkreadgto@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Off topic - Attn: 2nd Gen Red Stealth owners..
Sorry for this off
topic..
Any 2nd Gen. Red Stealth owners wana trade their
BLACK
projection head lights for a set of red ones?? I have
a set from a
'94 so its glass and can't be painted
over(I believe).. one of them is BRAND
NEW and the
other used but in good condition.
S. CAL owners prefered
so no shipping and other lead
time involves.. just do the swap in my or ur
garage..
please email me privately!
Thanx,
George Kuo
'92 RT
TT
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Date:
Mon, 28 Feb 2000 12:17:56 CST
From: "Curt Gendron" <
curt_gendron@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: Part #'s for Spark plug wires
Actually both of those part
numbers will work. CarParts list both of them
for some reason, but you
got the right NGK numbers. The DOHC engine and
DOHC turbo engine take
the same plug wires. The SOHC engine is different,
and I think the
SOHC uses a distributer??
You can go to my CarParts page at:
http://www.mn3s.org/car-parts.html
for
some good discount links and a list of 3/S
parts.
later,
Curt
http://www.mn3s.org>From:
monarchi@us.ibm.com>To:
team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>Subject:
Team3S: Part #'s for Spark plug wires
>Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2000 11:15:24
-0500
>
>Does anyone know what the part # is for the stock spark
plug wires for
>a 92 Dodge Stealth ES (DOHC, non-turbo) is ? OR what
the stock # is
>for a base Mitus 3000GT (through 96) I believe or any
3000GT SL ?
>
>Who is the OEM for spark plug wires on our car, Mitsu
(or Dodge) or NGK ?
>
>Car parts lists two different sets of plug
wires and doesn't really
>differentiate between the two. Is it the
difference between turbo
>and non-trubro, or is it the difference between
SOHC and DOHC.
>I have the DOHC.
>
>NGK spark plug
wires
#ME78
>
$86.96
>NGK spark plug
wires
#9176
>
$86.96
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Alan
Monarchi
>
>
>
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Date:
Mon, 28 Feb 2000 19:45:49 +0100
From: Matthews <
matthews@wiesbaden.vistec.net>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: 1st gen DSM BPV
Ken Middaugh wrote:
> Jim Matthews
wrote:
> >
> > Buschur's page lists the following parts
related to the 1st gen DSM BPV. Is
> > 3019 what I need to
eliminate the annoying honking goose from the stock BPV and
> > the
irritating stumbling from the Blitz BOV? Will it work on my 2nd
gen
> > Stealth? No interference with the 6-speed?
Thanx...
> >
> >
http://www.buschurracing.com/prices/prices.htm#Intake
and Exhaust
> > 3018 OEM 1G BOV $95
> > 3019 OEM 1G BOV W/
ADAPTER $140
>
> I'm just curious. How much are these if you
order them from Tallahassee or
> Norco Mitsubishi?
Not sure... if
this part #3019 is a special adapter to make the DSM BPV work for a
2nd gen
TT (no one answered my query above, so I still am not sure that it will
work
without 6-speed interference), then is this a standard Mitsu part that
these dealers
will carry or something special that Buschur fabricated?
I understand it's easy to
make a custom adapter for less than $45, but I
don't have time to mess with it and
need what I order to be plug and
play.
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Jet Black '94 Dodge Stealth R/T Twin-Turbo AWD AWS
6-spd
Adjustable Active Suspension, Adjustable Exhaust System
K&N
FIPK, A'PEXi Super AVC-R (1.0 bar @ 72% BADC)
A'PEXi Turbo Timer (30 sec),
Blitz Blow-Off Valve
Magnecore spark plug wires, Redline ShockProof
fluids
Abex metallic brake pads, custom braided brake lines
Michelin Pilot
XGT-Z4 245/45ZR17, Top Speed: 168mph
G-Tech Pro: 0-60 4.79 sec, 1/4 13.16 sec
@ 113.9 mph
1 Feb 99 Dyno Session: 406 SAE HP, 354 lb-ft
torque
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Date:
Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:00:57 -0800
From: "Nickolaos M. Sgouros" <
atenag@coqui.net>
Subject: Team3S: THE
BEST OIL FOR THE TT MOTOR
Friends Hi!
Did someone knows what is the
best oil to use for the TT motors when the
ambient average
temperatute is 85-95 F all year long?
Nikolaos M. Sgouros
Poseidon
"X" Inc
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Date:
Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:42:52 -0500
From: "Michael D. Romano" <
mdr-nhl@worldnet.att.net>
Subject:
Team3S: Sold my Stealth, have some parts for sale!
All the following
parts are factory Mitsu's, and were purchased from
Tallahassee Mitsubishi.
They have never been used, and they're taking up
much needed space!!
:)
Perfect for the do-it-yourself 60K job.
These are some 60K parts
for a DOHC non-turbo motor ('93 Stealth ES):
Water Pump (MD972005) paid
$78.54, asking $60
Plenum gasket (MD143791) paid $4.70, asking $3
Timing
Belt (MD193874) paid $116.44, asking $100
V-Ribbed belt (A/C?) (MD879764)
paid $19.43, asking $15.00
V-Ribbed belt (water pump?) (MD187463) paid
$16.89, asking $14.00
Fuel filter (MB658136) paid $23.94, asking
$20.00
Oil drain plug (MD050316) paid $1.82, FREE if you buy anything
else.
Cam shaft oil seals (4) (MD152603) paid $18.16, asking $15.00
Oil
seal (MD120700) paid $3.92, asking $2.00
Adjuster (MD319040) paid $62.62,
asking $58.00
Pulley, timing (MD140071) paid $21.17, asking $18.00
pulley,
valve timing belt idler(?) (MD319022) paid $20.96, asking $18.00
PCV valve
(MD152772) paid $14.49, asking $12.00
====================
Original
part cost: $403.08 I'm asking: $335.00
I also have factory manuals(2) for
the 3000GT (first gen.), $50 for both
books together.
I'll ship them
ground UPS.
Please DON'T respond to the list, respond to me
directly.
- -Mike
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Date:
Mon, 28 Feb 2000 18:46:53 -0500
From: "WALTER D. BEST" <
WDBO39@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S:
THE BEST OIL FOR THE TT MOTOR
Check out this web page concerning
oils
http://www.micapeak.com/info/oiled.html
this is very well done and provides
a lot of useful information. Anyone
who knows me knows I am a Mobil 1 fan,
I think it's the best by oil available
and I confirmed with Mobil the
figures in the study above.
Hope this
helps,
Dave Best
- ----- Original Message -----
From:
Nickolaos M. Sgouros <
atenag@coqui.net>
To: Team3s <
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Monday, February 28, 2000 6:00 PM
Subject: Team3S: THE BEST OIL FOR THE TT
MOTOR
> Friends Hi!
> Did someone knows what is the best oil
to use for the TT motors when the
> ambient average
temperatute is 85-95 F all year long?
>
>
> Nikolaos M.
Sgouros
> Poseidon "X" Inc
>
>
>
>
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Date:
Mon, 28 Feb 2000 16:36:35 -0700
From: "Palamara, Peter" <
pala@gwl.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: THE BEST
OIL FOR THE TT MOTOR
Check out my webpage and you will see that Mobil one
is not always good. ive
been using mobile one synthetic and if you see the
pictures of the torn
apart motor it shows a brown slug type stuff all over
(even worse in
person!) Yes oil does discolor stuff eventually but the parts
looked like
rust has been going on there.
- -----Original
Message-----
From: WALTER D. BEST [
mailto:WDBO39@erols.com]
Sent: Monday,
February 28, 2000 4:47 PM
To: Nickolaos M. Sgouros; Team3s
Subject: Re:
Team3S: THE BEST OIL FOR THE TT MOTOR
Check out this web page
concerning oils
http://www.micapeak.com/info/oiled.html
this is very well done and provides
a lot of useful information. Anyone
who knows me knows I am a Mobil 1 fan,
I think it's the best by oil available
and I confirmed with Mobil the
figures in the study above.
Hope this
helps,
Dave Best
- ----- Original Message -----
From:
Nickolaos M. Sgouros <
atenag@coqui.net>
To: Team3s <
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Monday, February 28, 2000 6:00 PM
Subject: Team3S: THE BEST OIL FOR THE TT
MOTOR
> Friends Hi!
> Did someone knows what is the best oil
to use for the TT motors when the
> ambient average
temperatute is 85-95 F all year long?
>
>
> Nikolaos M.
Sgouros
> Poseidon "X" Inc
>
>
>
>
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Date:
Mon, 28 Feb 2000 15:44:31 -0800
From: "Mohler, Jeff" <
jeff.mohler@netapp.com>
Subject:
RE: Team3S: THE BEST OIL FOR THE TT MOTOR
FWIW..Ive been a Redline user
for over 5 years on all of my Supra turbos, both
of our 3S cars (TTs as
well), my parents/sister have been using it for ever as
well. In all
fluids exc. power steering..i just flush that once a year
anyway.
BUT..even at 165k on my supra I had almost perfectly clear oil at
the 5K mile
change..even while on NOS.
The base synthetic is what
makes a good synthetic, and theyre not all created
equal.
-
-----Original Message-----
From: Palamara, Peter [
mailto:pala@gwl.com]
Sent: Monday, February
28, 2000 3:37 PM
To: 'WALTER D. BEST'; Nickolaos M. Sgouros;
Team3s
Subject: RE: Team3S: THE BEST OIL FOR THE TT MOTOR
Check
out my webpage and you will see that Mobil one is not always good. ive
been
using mobile one synthetic and if you see the pictures of the torn
apart
motor it shows a brown slug type stuff all over (even worse in
person!) Yes
oil does discolor stuff eventually but the parts looked like
rust has been
going on there.
- -----Original Message-----
From: WALTER
D. BEST [
mailto:WDBO39@erols.com]
Sent:
Monday, February 28, 2000 4:47 PM
To: Nickolaos M. Sgouros;
Team3s
Subject: Re: Team3S: THE BEST OIL FOR THE TT MOTOR
Check
out this web page concerning oils
http://www.micapeak.com/info/oiled.html
this is very well done and provides
a lot of useful information. Anyone
who knows me knows I am a Mobil 1 fan,
I think it's the best by oil available
and I confirmed with Mobil the
figures in the study above.
Hope this
helps,
Dave Best
- ----- Original Message -----
From:
Nickolaos M. Sgouros <
atenag@coqui.net>
To: Team3s <
team3s@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Monday, February 28, 2000 6:00 PM
Subject: Team3S: THE BEST OIL FOR THE TT
MOTOR
> Friends Hi!
> Did someone knows what is the best oil
to use for the TT motors when the
> ambient average
temperatute is 85-95 F all year long?
>
>
> Nikolaos M.
Sgouros
> Poseidon "X" Inc
>
>
>
>
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Date:
Mon, 28 Feb 2000 23:47:14 -0500
From: Del A Kolasinski <
pearlvr42c@juno.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Stuff For Sale
Brand New in the Box GReddy Electrical Meter
Series White Face EGT Guage.
Includes everything needed to install and
directions. Bought 3 weeks
ago for $160, will ship it to you for
$125/obo.
Jumptronix o2 Voltage Meter reads both o2 voltage, or battery
voltage
with the flip of a toggle switch. Black digital numbers with
green
backlighting. Used for 2 months, bought for $90, shipped to you
for $60.
Thanks,
Del
Kolasinski
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