team3s
Friday, February 25
2000 Volume 01
: Number
066
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Date:
Thu, 24 Feb 2000 09:39:27 CST
From: "Curt Gendron" <
curt_gendron@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Team3S: All 3/S Autocross event!!
Hey everyone,
I have some big
news to report about the "Upper Midwest Gathering" in
Wisconsin
Dells. I went to the MAC (Minnesota Autosports Club) last night,
and
"Minnesota 3/S" has permission to rent the autocross equipment for the
weekend of May 19-21. So I am one step closer to getting an autocross
event
in Wisconsin Dells. Having an all 3/S autocross event will be
the first
event of its kind, EVER, ANYWHERE!!
If you haven't signed
up yet, do so soon.
http://www.mn3s.org/upper-midwest.html
has all the details for signing up
and getting hotel reservations.
Also send me off an e-mail if your planning
on participating in the
Autocross. The cost for it will be somewhere
between $20-$50. I
still have to get some insurance for the event and find
a spot for
it.
Moving forward.......
Curt
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Date:
Thu, 24 Feb 2000 13:02:28 -0800
From: "Gula, James S" <
gulajs@jmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Team3S: All
3/S Autocross event!!
For those who can't make is to Minnesota there is a
Import/Kit car show
in Carlisle Pay May 19-21st. I'm planning on going.
Hopefully some of
you are too.
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Date:
Thu, 24 Feb 2000 20:03:19 +0100
From: Matthews <
matthews@wiesbaden.vistec.net>
Subject:
Team3S: 1st gen DSM BPV
Buschur's page lists the following parts related
to the 1st gen DSM BPV. Is
3019 what I need to eliminate the annoying
honking goose from the stock BPV and
the irritating stumbling from the Blitz
BOV? Will it work on my 2nd gen
Stealth? No interference with the
6-speed? Thanx...
http://www.buschurracing.com/prices/prices.htm#Intake
and Exhaust
3018 OEM 1G BOV $95
3019 OEM 1G BOV W/ ADAPTER
$140
-Jim
P.S.- Will it also fix my noisy
lifters, noisy brakes, exhaust resonance noise,
tire rubbing on the strut
noise, creaking rear hatch when it's cold noise,
creaking driver's window
when it's all the way up noise, and the wind noise from
the passenger side
plastic window triangle? :-| If I can knock those out, all
that
would remain is the spousal noise at 130+...
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Jet Black '94 Dodge Stealth R/T Twin-Turbo AWD AWS
6-spd
Adjustable Active Suspension, Adjustable Exhaust System
K&N
FIPK, A'PEXi Super AVC-R (1.0 bar @ 72% BADC)
A'PEXi Turbo Timer (30 sec),
Blitz Blow-Off Valve
Magnecore spark plug wires, Redline ShockProof
fluids
Abex metallic brake pads, custom braided brake lines
Michelin Pilot
XGT-Z4 245/45ZR17, Top Speed: 168mph
G-Tech Pro: 0-60 4.79 sec, 1/4 13.16 sec
@ 113.9 mph
1 Feb 99 Dyno Session: 406 SAE HP, 354 lb-ft
torque
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Date:
Thu, 24 Feb 2000 11:57:06 -0800
From: Ken Middaugh <
Kenneth.Middaugh@gat.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: 1st gen DSM BPV
> Buschur's page lists the following parts
related to the 1st gen DSM BPV. Is
> 3019 what I need to eliminate
the annoying honking goose from the stock BPV and
> the irritating
stumbling from the Blitz BOV? Will it work on my 2nd gen
>
Stealth? No interference with the 6-speed? Thanx...
>
>
http://www.buschurracing.com/prices/prices.htm#Intake
and Exhaust
> 3018 OEM 1G BOV $95
> 3019 OEM 1G BOV W/ ADAPTER
$140
I'm just curious. How much are these if you order them from
Tallahassee or
Norco Mitsubishi?
- --
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your view never changes!
Ken Middaugh (858) 455-4510
General
Atomics
San Diego
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Date:
Thu, 24 Feb 2000 14:55:39 -0600
From: "cody" <
overclck@flash.net>
Subject: Team3S:
Moving Readers Rides
Woohoo - we finally got a domain name for our
business.
Now I have a good, high speed server to put the Readers Rides
Website.
No more annoying pop-up banners, no more junk...
The new
address will be (in about an hour or so)
http://www.southpadreonline.com/3siI
also invite everyone to check out our new portal site on the internet
http://www.southpadreonline.comAnd
of course if you would like your car listed, please e-mail me at
overclck@flash.net - Don't forget
about voting either, votes are tallied
the 27th, so get your vote in
now!
Cody
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Date:
Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:30:41 -0600
From: "Trevor L. James" <
trevor@kscable.com>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Flow maps 15G and 18T
Man those 18T's look pretty good! Seems
like they'll be almost perfect for
14.7psi@WOT runs. 4200-7100rpm equates to
roughly .1-.17 M³/Sec flowrate. At
2 bar the 18T's pass from
70-73-75-76-77% efficiency where the 15G's go
70-73-75-73-70%. 18T's are a
little more efficient than the 15Gs. Pretty
nice! So what does it take to
install these units. Please tell me they'll be
direct bolt
ons...
Trevor
96 R/T TT
12.86@107.2 (Real track, done some mods since
then)
12.44@114.6 0-60 3.90 Gtech
92 GMC
Typhoon
13.72@100.2 0-60 4.90
Gtech
92 GMC TyphoonMikael Åkesson wrote:
>
Hi,
>
> There have been allot of talk on this list regarding how
much a 15G turbo
> flows etc.
>
> I have now published a flow
map for 15G turbos on my hompage
>
http://www.3000gt.nu, (look under
"performance" and then "compressor")
>
> I have
also posted flow maps for the 18T tubos that I will use on my
car.
>
> So what do you guys think, will 18T be better than
15G??
>
> /Mikael Akesson
>
http://www.3000gt.nu>
>
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Date:
Thu, 24 Feb 2000 23:35:55 GMT
From: "Tim DeKeyser" <
tdekeyser@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Team3S: restoring/modifying question
I have purchased a 91 R/T Stealth
with a lot of miles on it, the tranny has
been replaced and the car runs
great with no leaks. I would like to restore
this car and heavily modify it.
Question is, with so many miles on it,
should I scrap the engine, or will it
handle added HP if it is rebuilt? Will
anything else be a
problem?
Tim
Dallas,
TX
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Date:
Thu, 24 Feb 2000 16:19:56 -0800 (PST)
From: George Kuo <
amkreadgto@yahoo.com>
Subject:
Team3S: My Honking problem found!!
Hi Team,
The auto electrical
specialist found a burned
"anti-theft control" unit/module!! Anyone
ever had or
heard of this problem??
He disconnected it but here are a
few problem
associated with it:
1) Window don't work
2) Radiator
fan ON all the time when car is started
3) Pop-up headlite don't
work
He said new module/unit from dealer is 200 some bux!!
But he's
gona try to fix the unit now, if he cant fix
it, then i need new
"anti-theft control" module..
What u guys think?? Thanx for all
ur
help!
George
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Date:
Thu, 24 Feb 2000 19:12:53 -0600
From: xwing <
xwing@execpc.com>
Subject: Team3S:
Adjustable cam sprockets?
Did somebody say there were adjustable cam
sprockets out for our
cars?? Who has them, and how much $?
Those
18T turbo maps look better, higher available pressure ratio
and more airflow
at higher efficiencies. What does the compressor
wheel look like from
outside, has it a small/large blade size like the
G wheel?
I haven't
spoken with Jim Rowe at Metric Mechanic regarding
the Getrag rebuild/synchro
upgrade project for the last
couple of weeks or so, he said he'd be starting
around now on
the trans I sent, with the help of those who donated $ for
the
shippage etc, and Steve Medici who donated the hashed core...
Still
have some potential cores coming to get more parts and
cores over there to
make this more a production line situation
than
one-off.
JT
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Date:
Thu, 24 Feb 2000 19:53:55 -0600
From: "cody" <
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Subject: Team3S:
Real Video
I just realized that with our new website and server, we can
srve up to 2000
simultaneous Real Video/Audio streams. That's alot of
wasted bandwidth...
If anyone has videos they would like hosted, contact me
at
overclck@flash.net and I'll get
them posted for everyone to see...
WooHoo, now, not just Pics, but video
too... cool!
Cody
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Date:
Thu, 24 Feb 2000 22:42:54 -0800
From: "aa2345" <
aa2345@wayne.edu>
Subject: Team3S: RE:
THUD
Hello everybody,
Wanted to add one more 94 TT to the GERTRAG
thud problem. It only happens
when shifting from 1st into 2nd although
the transmission was changed 3000
miles ago.
Mike.
94 R/TT Pearl
Yellow
Michigan, Detroit Metro Area
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Date:
Thu, 24 Feb 2000 22:56:35 -0700
From: Manoj Prasad <
mprasad@uswest.net>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: My Honking problem found!!
So, what you are saying is that
turning the key did SH$%^&T in this
case. Sorry that the problem
was not an easy one to fix. I was just
trying to help with the small
experience I have had.
You may want to try some junk yards for this unit
before paying $200.00
bucks for it.
The only thing that bothers me is
that there is a third horn on our
car. I have the two factory horns and
an after market alarm system with
a siren.
Best Regards
Moe
P
George Kuo wrote:
> Hi Team,
>
> The auto
electrical specialist found a burned
> "anti-theft control"
unit/module!! Anyone ever had or
> heard of this problem??
>
>
He disconnected it but here are a few problem
> associated with
it:
>
> 1) Window don't work
> 2) Radiator fan ON all the time
when car is started
> 3) Pop-up headlite don't work
>
> He
said new module/unit from dealer is 200 some bux!!
> But he's gona try to
fix the unit now, if he cant fix
> it, then i need new "anti-theft
control" module..
>
> What u guys think?? Thanx for all ur
help!
>
> George
>
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Date:
Thu, 24 Feb 2000 22:46:43 PST
From: "Greg Gonzales" <
greggonzo1@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Re: Team3S: RE: THUD
Is this the same kind of thud that I get when I am
sitting still and I put
the car in neutral then back into first and get a
thud?
Greg
92 RT
TT
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Date:
Fri, 25 Feb 2000 02:41:23 -0600
From: "Vineet Singh" <
billi_gates@hotmail.com>
Subject:
Team3S: Adapting Turbo's from other sources?
First off, let me say that
Roger Gerl is one of the nicest, and most
professional people to deal
with.
I got a set of turbo's from him (stock 9b's, in very nice
condition,
requiring no rebuild whatsoever), and was comparing them to my 2
burned out
14b's and one good T25 (Garret, from a 2g DSM).
I know I've
seen people talk about other application turbo swaps before, but
always get
rejected for some of the following reasons,
1:Turbo's are not identical,
one is swapped
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--------------------------------------------------------------
A)This is not wholly true! Looking at the turbo, one only seems to be
really
different, it's not, the exhaust side is only SLIGHTLY different
(between the
manifold and turbo), and the oulet is different on the
compressor housing
(one is goofy, the rear turbo's one-bolt design, while
the other one is a
more conventional hose-clamp style, T25's have the more
conventional
style).
2:Exhaust flanges are way different.
-
---------------------------------------------------
A)Can this be remedied by some sort of billet adaptor plate? I've seen
such
plates for turbo's that are differently configured for
DSM's...
3:Downpipe bolt pattern is different.
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---------------------------------------------------
A)Does this matter? The stock rear downpipe sucks anyway, so getting
someone
to make a custom one isn't that bad an evil anyway!
4:Oil and water lines
are different, and also the center cartridge is
reversed for flow on one of
the turbo's.
-
----------------------------------------------------
a) Can't this be fixed by using proper AEM fittings for the plumbing,
or even
using the stock lines for a bit, and then using rubber couplings for
stuff
(with flanged lines so the rubber doesn't pop-off the lines)?
Most
professionals use the fittings anyway! Even on "stock replacements
(13 or
15g's)
b) Loosening up the center
cartridge and rotating to the orientation
needed shouldn't be that hard,
there might be some pin/key that keeps it
from rotating, but that should be
easy to remove/throw away)
-
----------------------------------------------------
A T25 can flow 330
cfm of air at 15psi, while a stock 9b can only flow about
250-60 (I think).
What would two t25's be comparable to? 13g's? between
13g's and 15g's? 15g's?
T25's have a higher efficiency impeller design
(staggered fin's, like all
"g" trim mitsu wheels). I can usually find t25's
for less than 200$
in the DSM market.
Someone should come out with the hardware needed to
use t25's in our 3/S
cars, it really CAN'T be that hard for a knowledgeable
shop to do this. I
will look around at other turbo's and sources, but I think
this idea is
decent, and doable! I just need verification from someone about
the
paragraph before this one to see if it's even worth it.
Worst part
I think is mating the exhaust flange of the t25 to a stock
3/S
manifold...
Thanks guys! (and gals!)
PS: How much
horsepower do you think I can get putting 2 9b's on my 91 TALON
AWD? (It has
a 2.3liter stroker motor waiting for it, complete with crower
rods, forged
pistons, 8.5/1 compression and ARP studs everywhere)
With an estimate of
500 cfm, I think it would only be able to put out a max
of about 350 hp...
similar to a proper 20g setup (not one that is being over
boosted) I just
don't know what the HP would be when you add in the fact
that this motor has
.3 more liters, and slightly higher compression. There
are reasons for
twinturbo on my talon, one being it's an A/T and I want to
try something a
little unconventional.
Vineet Singh - Turbolly crazy!
Service Manuals
on CD -
http://manualcd.dsm.orgClub
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http://at.dsm.org -
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Date:
Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:46:23 +0100
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mikael_=C5kesson?=
<
vr4@bahnhof.se>
Subject: Team3S:
ECU question
Hi
I have the "real" manuals for the
3000GT, both chassi and electrical, but I
can't find a complete list of all
connections in the ECU, I have figured out
most of them by looking at the
sensors etc but there still are a few pins
that I can't find any information
about. Any tips?
The pins that I don't have info about are: 72 (gnd?),
57, 58 , 54 112, 113,
13 and 26.
The car is a 93 VR-4
(US).
Thanks,
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Date:
Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:53:46 +0100
From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mikael_=C5kesson?=
<
vr4@bahnhof.se>
Subject: Re:
Team3S: Flow maps 15G and 18T
Yes the 18T turbos are direct bolt
on.
/Mikael
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Trevor L. James
<
trevor@kscable.com>
Man those
18T's look pretty good! Seems like they'll be almost perfect for
14.7psi@WOT
runs. 4200-7100rpm equates to roughly .1-.17 M³/Sec flowrate. At
2 bar
the 18T's pass from 70-73-75-76-77% efficiency where the 15G's
go
70-73-75-73-70%. 18T's are a little more efficient than the 15Gs.
Pretty
nice! So what does it take to install these units. Please tell me
they'll be
direct bolt ons...
Trevor
96 R/T
TT
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Date:
Fri, 25 Feb 2000 09:19:22 -0500
From: "Bob Rand" <
rtr@vnet.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: ECU
question
I have 93 Stealth Manuals.
pin 72 to Throttle Position
Sensor.
pin 58 to Knock Sensor
pins 13 & 26 are grounds 26 is
direct ground 13 goes to Crank shaft postion
sensor.
112 & 113 to Data
Link Connector.
- ----- Original Message -----
From: Mikael
Åkesson <
vr4@bahnhof.se>
To:
Team3S list <
team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent:
Friday, February 25, 2000 7:46 AM
Subject: Team3S: ECU
question
> Hi
>
> I have the "real" manuals
for the 3000GT, both chassi and electrical, but
I
> can't find a
complete list of all connections in the ECU, I have figured
out
> most
of them by looking at the sensors etc but there still are a few pins
>
that I can't find any information about. Any tips?
>
> The pins that
I don't have info about are: 72 (gnd?), 57, 58 , 54 112,
113,
> 13 and
26.
>
> The car is a 93 VR-4 (US).
>
>
Thanks,
>
> Mikael Akesson
http://www.3000gt.nu>
>
>
>
>
>
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Date:
Fri, 25 Feb 2000 13:22:20 -0800
From: "Nickolaos M. Sgouros" <
atenag@coqui.net>
Subject: Team3S:
Trany Question
Friends Hi:
Did someone can give me the answer why the
dealers they don't sale parts for
our transmissions? I have a friend that he
found a Stealth 93 TT in a very
attractive price, only has one problem. The
synchronizer of the 3rd gear is
not well. We tried then to ask for parts and
they told us that the US dealer
is not having any trany parts for sale!!! For
$100-$200 part to replace the
complete transmission? Did someone have any
information or someone knows
what is the brand of it so I can contact
directly the manufacturer?
Thank all of you
Nikos the Greek
92' RT
TT
Puerto Rico
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