team3s           Tuesday, February 22 2000           Volume 01 : Number 064




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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 15:02:58 -0800 (PST)
From: George Kuo <amkreadgto@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S: Honking problem! Help!

Hi Team,

I encountered a weird problem today. Went to start my
car after out to lunch and the horn started to honk
when i turned the key!! It just honks like i had my
hand over my horn button..

its not the honking like the factory alarm, which
honks with a on - off rythmn.. i tried pulling the
fuse in the engine compartment but still no use.

I had no choice but to drive home honking!! it was
pretty embarassing.. everyone must thought i was
crazy~ Then, at a stop light.. i shut off my engine,
the turbo timer kicked in.. the honking stopped.. but
to my suprise.. the steering wheel was working (I
remembered it would lock). I drove home (2miles) with
the key shut off and turbo timer running!

Then a minute later, I smelled a fume comming from
steering column.. something was burning!!! I quickly
drove home and now the car is in the garage.. i looked
under the steering column but didnt see anything
suspicious... the horn still honks when the key is
turned (not even to start). can someone help???

Thanx in advance,
George
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 16:37:05 -0500
From: "Manoj Uswest" <mprasad@uswest.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Honking problem! Help!

Take the key and lock and unlock the door on the driver side.  That will
turn the horn off.

What happened is that while you were away from your car the alarm was
triggered.  This can be caused by a loud car or someone bumped your car.
Then when you unlock your, the system is telling you that the alarm was
activated while you were away.


- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of George Kuo
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 6:03 PM
To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: Team3S: Honking problem! Help!


Hi Team,

I encountered a weird problem today. Went to start my
car after out to lunch and the horn started to honk
when i turned the key!! It just honks like i had my
hand over my horn button..

its not the honking like the factory alarm, which
honks with a on - off rythmn.. i tried pulling the
fuse in the engine compartment but still no use.

I had no choice but to drive home honking!! it was
pretty embarassing.. everyone must thought i was
crazy~ Then, at a stop light.. i shut off my engine,
the turbo timer kicked in.. the honking stopped.. but
to my suprise.. the steering wheel was working (I
remembered it would lock). I drove home (2miles) with
the key shut off and turbo timer running!

Then a minute later, I smelled a fume comming from
steering column.. something was burning!!! I quickly
drove home and now the car is in the garage.. i looked
under the steering column but didnt see anything
suspicious... the horn still honks when the key is
turned (not even to start). can someone help???

Thanx in advance,
George
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 18:57:12 -0500
From: "Bob Rand" <rtr@vnet.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Honking problem! Help!

George,  I would start with your horn/theft alarm relaylocated near the fuse
box inside the car. Also the horn relay which is located under the hood
front passanger side near the headlight. They way the system works is when
you press the horn button it completes a ground to the coil of the relay.
This causes the relay contacts to close and complete a circuit to the horn.
If you have a short to ground anywhere on that wire it is the same as
pressing the horn switch in the car.  The wiring from the horn switch on
your steering wheel goes through what is called the clock spring. This could
also be suspect.  If you pull the horn relay you should at least disable the
horn so you can drive it.

Bob
93 Stealth TT

- ----- Original Message -----
From: George Kuo <amkreadgto@yahoo.com>
To: <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 6:02 PM
Subject: Team3S: Honking problem! Help!


> Hi Team,
>
> I encountered a weird problem today. Went to start my
> car after out to lunch and the horn started to honk
> when i turned the key!! It just honks like i had my
> hand over my horn button..
>
> its not the honking like the factory alarm, which
> honks with a on - off rythmn.. i tried pulling the
> fuse in the engine compartment but still no use.
>
> I had no choice but to drive home honking!! it was
> pretty embarassing.. everyone must thought i was
> crazy~ Then, at a stop light.. i shut off my engine,
> the turbo timer kicked in.. the honking stopped.. but
> to my suprise.. the steering wheel was working (I
> remembered it would lock). I drove home (2miles) with
> the key shut off and turbo timer running!
>
> Then a minute later, I smelled a fume comming from
> steering column.. something was burning!!! I quickly
> drove home and now the car is in the garage.. i looked
> under the steering column but didnt see anything
> suspicious... the horn still honks when the key is
> turned (not even to start). can someone help???
>
> Thanx in advance,
> George
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 18:05:48 -0600
From: "Oskar" <swede@pclink.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Honking problem! Help!

Manoj,

from your post I gather that the alarm eventually stops honking when
triggered.  Do you know for how long it sounds before shutting down?

Thanks,
Oskar

- ----- Original Message -----
From: "Manoj Uswest" <mprasad@uswest.net>
To: "George Kuo" <amkreadgto@yahoo.com>; <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 3:37 PM
Subject: RE: Team3S: Honking problem! Help!


> Take the key and lock and unlock the door on the driver side.  That will
> turn the horn off.
>
> What happened is that while you were away from your car the alarm was
> triggered.  This can be caused by a loud car or someone bumped your car.
> Then when you unlock your, the system is telling you that the alarm was
> activated while you were away.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
> [mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of George Kuo
> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 6:03 PM
> To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
> Subject: Team3S: Honking problem! Help!
>
>
> Hi Team,
>
> I encountered a weird problem today. Went to start my
> car after out to lunch and the horn started to honk
> when i turned the key!! It just honks like i had my
> hand over my horn button..
>
> its not the honking like the factory alarm, which
> honks with a on - off rythmn.. i tried pulling the
> fuse in the engine compartment but still no use.
>
> I had no choice but to drive home honking!! it was
> pretty embarassing.. everyone must thought i was
> crazy~ Then, at a stop light.. i shut off my engine,
> the turbo timer kicked in.. the honking stopped.. but
> to my suprise.. the steering wheel was working (I
> remembered it would lock). I drove home (2miles) with
> the key shut off and turbo timer running!
>
> Then a minute later, I smelled a fume comming from
> steering column.. something was burning!!! I quickly
> drove home and now the car is in the garage.. i looked
> under the steering column but didnt see anything
> suspicious... the horn still honks when the key is
> turned (not even to start). can someone help???
>
> Thanx in advance,
> George
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 17:21:17 -0700
From: Dave Monarchi <monarchd@refuge.Colorado.EDU>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Honking problem! Help!

George,

I'd have to look at my 3000 to see if it's possible, but I used
to have the same thing happen to me on my GTI..  When I would turn
the key to start the car, one of the other keys on the ring would
occasionally twist into just the right position to slide between
the steering wheel and the column, thus completing the horn
circuit..  It doesn't sound like a key is your problem, but either
some foreign material found its' way in there, or the contact
for the horn circuit somehow wedged itself permanently in the
closed (on) position..

the burning smell is probably the casing on wires melting or
burning!  make sure you thoroughly investigate the wiring on the
column to make sure there's no bare wire, so you won't have more
problems in the future!

hope that helps..


Dave

95 Black 3000GT VR4
87 Mica Red GTI G60

- --------

+> Hi Team,
+>
+> I encountered a weird problem today. Went to start my
+> car after out to lunch and the horn started to honk
+> when i turned the key!! It just honks like i had my
+> hand over my horn button..
+>
+> its not the honking like the factory alarm, which
+> honks with a on - off rythmn.. i tried pulling the
+> fuse in the engine compartment but still no use.
+>
+> I had no choice but to drive home honking!! it was
+> pretty embarassing.. everyone must thought i was
+> crazy~ Then, at a stop light.. i shut off my engine,
+> the turbo timer kicked in.. the honking stopped.. but
+> to my suprise.. the steering wheel was working (I
+> remembered it would lock). I drove home (2miles) with
+> the key shut off and turbo timer running!
+>
+> Then a minute later, I smelled a fume comming from
+> steering column.. something was burning!!! I quickly
+> drove home and now the car is in the garage.. i looked
+> under the steering column but didnt see anything
+> suspicious... the horn still honks when the key is
+> turned (not even to start). can someone help???
+>
+> Thanx in advance,
+> George
+> __________________________________________________
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 20:40:00 EST
From: TrboDrvr@aol.com
Subject: Re: Team3S: Intermittent starting problem

Sounds like maybe your neutral safety switch has gone to lunch.  I'd check
that.  It screws into the tranny and has several wires coming off it.  It
makes sure that your car cannot be started in gear.  It is probably shorting.
It is in a location that can get wet so it is susceptible to being more
problematic in the rain.

    Give it a try and let us know what you find.

Joe 91 TT

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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 19:00:07 -0800 (PST)
From: George Kuo <amkreadgto@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Honking problem! Help!

Thanx guys for all your input!

The 1st thing I did was unlocking/locking the door to
try to disarm the factory alarm.. but it didnt work.
I have an aftermarket alarm anyways with remote door
locks.. and never used the factory one.. besides, the
honking is unlike the factory alarm going off.. its a
constant honk!! Another note, the honking is from just
one horn.. when i press the horn button on my steering
wheel.. its a separate horn..

After taking off the big plastic thing under the
steering column.. i didnt see any visual shorts... I
had the car towed to a local auto electric specialist
for further investigation.  When the car arrived at
the shop, the tech imediately told me he smelled
burned wires.. but after an hour of investigating, he
couldnt find any sign of short wires!!  He cut the 2
horn wires and started the car in the garage, we tried
to duplicate the fume but no luck..

The car is still at the shop.. he will continue to
work on it tommorow..

Now the question I have for you guys.. does driving
the car with the turbo timer running and the key to
'off' could cause anything to be shorted?? does that
ruin anything???  I did that driving home from lunch
today so I dont piss off any roadragers with my
annoying horn!

The tech guy is suggesting the fume and horn could be
two separate problems.. he thinks someone tried to
"slim jim" my door which caused the horn problem.. and
the fume might be from driving with the turbo timer..

Any more suggestions??

George
=(

- --- George Kuo <amkreadgto@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi Team,
>
> I encountered a weird problem today. Went to start
> my
> car after out to lunch and the horn started to honk
> when i turned the key!! It just honks like i had my
> hand over my horn button..
>
> its not the honking like the factory alarm, which
> honks with a on - off rythmn.. i tried pulling the
> fuse in the engine compartment but still no use.
>
> I had no choice but to drive home honking!! it was
> pretty embarassing.. everyone must thought i was
> crazy~ Then, at a stop light.. i shut off my engine,
> the turbo timer kicked in.. the honking stopped..
> but
> to my suprise.. the steering wheel was working (I
> remembered it would lock). I drove home (2miles)
> with
> the key shut off and turbo timer running!
>
> Then a minute later, I smelled a fume comming from
> steering column.. something was burning!!! I quickly
> drove home and now the car is in the garage.. i
> looked
> under the steering column but didnt see anything
> suspicious... the horn still honks when the key is
> turned (not even to start). can someone help???
>
> Thanx in advance,
> George
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Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2000 20:06:37 -0700
From: Manoj Prasad <mprasad@uswest.net>
Subject: Re: Team3S: Honking problem! Help!

Oskar,

The alarm turns off in about a minute but until you lock and unlock the door
with the key the horn will be triggered everytime any power is drown from the
battery.

Before I bought the VR4, I was driving my Dad's Mitsubishi and the same thing
happened to me.  I called my dad and he told me to lock and unlock the driver
side door with the key.

One of my neighbors has a loud truck and he use to set my alarm of any morning
I would leave the car in the driveway.  He has moved away now and this doesn't
happen that often.

As far as the smell, I don't know what that would be.  If George does not
smell it any more then I would say that it had something to do with the horn
relay. But that is just a guess on my part.

Rgds
Moe

Oskar wrote:

> Manoj,
>
> from your post I gather that the alarm eventually stops honking when
> triggered.  Do you know for how long it sounds before shutting down?
>
> Thanks,
> Oskar
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Manoj Uswest" <mprasad@uswest.net>
> To: "George Kuo" <amkreadgto@yahoo.com>; <Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st>
> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 3:37 PM
> Subject: RE: Team3S: Honking problem! Help!
>
> > Take the key and lock and unlock the door on the driver side.  That will
> > turn the horn off.
> >
> > What happened is that while you were away from your car the alarm was
> > triggered.  This can be caused by a loud car or someone bumped your car.
> > Then when you unlock your, the system is telling you that the alarm was
> > activated while you were away.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
> > [mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of George Kuo
> > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 6:03 PM
> > To: Team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
> > Subject: Team3S: Honking problem! Help!
> >
> >
> > Hi Team,
> >
> > I encountered a weird problem today. Went to start my
> > car after out to lunch and the horn started to honk
> > when i turned the key!! It just honks like i had my
> > hand over my horn button..
> >
> > its not the honking like the factory alarm, which
> > honks with a on - off rythmn.. i tried pulling the
> > fuse in the engine compartment but still no use.
> >
> > I had no choice but to drive home honking!! it was
> > pretty embarassing.. everyone must thought i was
> > crazy~ Then, at a stop light.. i shut off my engine,
> > the turbo timer kicked in.. the honking stopped.. but
> > to my suprise.. the steering wheel was working (I
> > remembered it would lock). I drove home (2miles) with
> > the key shut off and turbo timer running!
> >
> > Then a minute later, I smelled a fume comming from
> > steering column.. something was burning!!! I quickly
> > drove home and now the car is in the garage.. i looked
> > under the steering column but didnt see anything
> > suspicious... the horn still honks when the key is
> > turned (not even to start). can someone help???
> >
> > Thanx in advance,
> > George
> > __________________________________________________
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 10:51:47 -0800 (PST)
From: George Kuo <amkreadgto@yahoo.com>
Subject: Team3S: Driving with turbo timer and key to "off" position..

Hi Team,

Would driving like this do damage to electrical
system??? or anything?? Thanx!

George
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:18:38 -0500
From: "Manoj Uswest" <mprasad@uswest.net>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Driving with turbo timer and key to "off" position..

George, to keep the car going with my turbo timer, I have to keep the
emergence brake on.  As soon as I take the brake off the car turns off. This
is for safty.

Oskar is the one that helped me with the wiring.  I can not run my car
unless I plan on burning the pads.


Rgds
Moe

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of George Kuo
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 1:52 PM
To: Team3SI
Subject: Team3S: Driving with turbo timer and key to "off" position..


Hi Team,

Would driving like this do damage to electrical
system??? or anything?? Thanx!

George
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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:41:14 -0500
From: "Mark" <mark1mtg@netzero.net>
Subject: Team3S: Water injection

Hi folks!
I just purchased a Spearco water injection system and was wondering if
anybody had any ideas where to mount the tank.
I have a 92vr4.
Thanks in advance.

Mark


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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 14:55:01 -0600
From: Matt Jannusch <MAJ@BigCharts.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Water injection

> I just purchased a Spearco water injection system and was
> wondering if anybody had any ideas where to mount the tank.
> I have a 92vr4.  Thanks in advance.

I got rid of the stock battery and bought the Black Panther Predator battery (about $150).  I believe they've changed the name of it, but anyways it is a dry cell battery which is about 14 pounds lighter than the stock one and a lot smaller.  It gave me enough room to mount the water tank sitting upright (long edge down) on the battery tray, with the pump hanging down to the rear and the activation switch on the front upper side facing the air filter.  I used the hole on the long side for the water feed by drilling a hole in the battery tray for the line to run through.  If you mount it there, then you only have about 12" of hose for the water to travel through, as well as the water output hole from the tank being the lowest and farthest back so that when you hit the gas the water sloshes towards the hole instead of away from it.  You are also super-close to the battery to keep the wiring short as well.

If you are interested in doing it this way, go to http://www.jegs.com and look under the Ignition/Batteries section for the Odyssey Racing Batteries and the smaller (PC925) battery is perfect for this application.  You'll actually need to shim it to make the battery bracket hold it down because it is so small.  I used a piece of 2x4 under the hold-down to make it stay put.

I couldn't find any* way to shorten the length of hose or wiring more than doing it this way.  I get what feels like instant water injection and the car pulls well the whole time it is on.  I'm using the medium-sized jet.  Every tank of gas uses about 2/3 a tank of distilled water, your mileage may vary.

- -Matt
'95 3000GT Spyder VR4

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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:53:39 -0700
From: "Kevin Fanciulli" <StealthTwinTurbo@bigfoot.com>
Subject: UPDATE:  RE: Team3S: AWD transmition bump sound.

I got my car back today after Getrag replacement, new clutch, and new
transfer case -- there is NO THUDDING anymore.  I do not feel the thud when
shifting into ANY gear now...  Hope this helps.

- -kevin fanciulli
'92 Stealth RT/TT
3Si #0375

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Kevin Fanciulli
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 12:36 PM
To: Rick D
Cc: Team3S
Subject: RE: Team3S: AWD transmition bump sound.


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Add my '92 RT/TT to the list of those that make this noise.  I feel a thud
when the clutch is all the way in and I put it from neutral to 1st.  I have
tried the clutch lengthening, messed around with it for hours and it seemed
to do basically nothing. :)

I'm having my transmission replaced right now, we'll see if it still does it
w/ a new one.

- -kevin fanciulli
'92 Stealth RT/TT
3Si #0375

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st
[mailto:owner-team3s@stealth-3000gt.st]On Behalf Of Rick D
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2000 12:10 PM
To: Ken Middaugh; Mike Rappe
Cc: team3S@stealth-3000gt.st
Subject: Re: Team3S: AWD transmition bump sound.


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At 11:05 AM 2/4/00 -0800, Ken Middaugh wrote:
>***This is the NEW Team3S list. See message end for more info.***
>
>
>
> > The bumb seems to be comming from under the car but the shifter itself
is
> > smooth.
>
>Do you feel this "bump" when shifting from neutral to 1st?  If so, then one
>possibility is the clutch is not completely disengaging when you push the
>pedal
>to the floor.  If this is the case, you need to adjust (lengthen) the bolt
>that
>goes from the clutch pedal to the clutch vacuum booster.  Note, "a little
>adjustment goes a long way", move in 1/2 or 1/4 turn increments.


I have driven about 5 different R/T turbos. (from 91 to 95)  *Every single
one* I have driven has done *exactly* what you just mentioned Ken.   When
shifting from neutral into 1st you can hear/feel a "thud" noise.  (for lack
of a better description).  I always wondered what that was!

Thanks,

Rick
94 R/T turbo
<mine still does that "thud" from time to time...>





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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 15:08:25 -0600
From: "Dy, Leonard" <DyL@CTT.com>
Subject: Team3S: warranty

Can anyone please tell me if the standard powertrain warranty is 5yr/50,000
or 5yr/60,000 miles.


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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 13:13:18 -0800
From: "Mohler, Jeff" <jeff.mohler@netapp.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: warranty

60k sir.



- -----Original Message-----
From: Dy, Leonard [mailto:DyL@CTT.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2000 1:08 PM
To: 3SI (E-mail)
Subject: Team3S: warranty


Can anyone please tell me if the standard powertrain warranty is 5yr/50,000
or 5yr/60,000 miles.


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Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2000 20:42:09 -0500
From: "Omar Malik" <ojm@iname.com>
Subject: RE: Team3S: Honking problem! Help!

> constant honk!! Another note, the honking is from just
> one horn.. when i press the horn button on my steering
> wheel.. its a separate horn..

this definitely sounds like the alarm horn (a seperate horn from the regular
ones in front of the radiator), especially if the front ones sound when you
push the horn button. i'd also lift the hood and see which horn is going
off. the ones in front of the radiator, or another one somewhere else inside
the engine bay (i'm sorry, i forget exactly where it is, but i've come
across it before poking around in there. it's somewhere on the drivers side
next to the engine.)

it could be a stuck relay. i'd check the alarm horn relay to make sure. this
happened when i installed my air horns. the wiring diagram showed two of the
connections backwards, and the relay stuck open while i was driving home.
stock horn is one thing, air horn is another. i was afraid of people calling
the police since it was 11 at night, so i pulled over and cut off the 12v
going to the horns. after installing another relay correctly, the problem
went away completely.

Omar
92 r/t



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